Minecraft - Finders Creepers, Losers Weepers. Also, Paypal is fucking terrible.

Peas

Well I guess you can do that too

iamthepieman

or just save and quit and install the mod that allows you to save locations.

I'm too lazy to find a link, it should be on World of Minecraft or Moddb

AkimboEG

AkimboEG wrote: »

So, I think I've come up with an improvised water gate until we can get real ones.

water       SAND
               TNT - - - - - - - SWITCH
             WATER

When you hit the switch, the TNT sets off and falls to the water (thus making sure it doesn't actually do any damage). The sand then falls to replace the missing TNT block, allowing the water to come rushing out. I'll try it out and see if it works.

Ok, so that doesn't really work like I thought it would. The sand does indeed fall, but it falls into the water after the TNT, replacing the water block, canceling out the negating effect water has on TNT explosions.

Machismo

If you ever get lost in single player, just build a structure. a 6x6 cobblestone pad on a plane of grass works well. Save and quit. Load it into Cartograph and look for it. The bigger the pad, the easier it is to see.

Also, another method is make an asymetrical pattern of torches on the ground, then load up cartograph and look at it in night mode. It will stand out and the asymetrical shape would help point the direction home.


That way, you avoid dieing.

Hexmage-PA

Okay, now I'm experiencing a weird glitch. I had hit Escape to pause the game for a few minutes, and when I came back the word "Saving..." was flickering in the lower left corner of the screen. I unpaused and found that I am unable to move. I can rotate the camera and add and place blocks, but my character can't move. In fact, he won't he even fall if I destroy the blocks below me. What's more, I went into third-person mode and discovered that my character is now invisible.

So, um, help?

Kris_xK

Save Reload.

pabh

Yeah I've had that too, just do the escape thing and go back to the game a couple of times.

Also is the alt succession game still ongoing?

Machismo

Also jumping and the saving while in mid air supposedly helps.

Hexmage-PA

Here's my world so far:

I can't believe I've been playing this game for so long, and that tiny space in the center of the map is where I've spent the vast majority of my time.

Zetx

Alright, my server is back up. Sorry for the delay, I've been offline since I got off work yesterday.

bowen

Also if I don't talk to anyone while I'm moving around don't worry, doing lots of stuff, and this game is perfect for alt-tabbing.

CarbonFire

Man, I started a really interesting world last night. Lots of cliff and cave formations above ground, waterfalls and lavafalls all over, and floating air islands with forests growing on them.

The only problem? Every single cave system I found was full of fail. Almost no iron, gold or diamond, and only a paltry amount of coal. I had dreams of running an epic sky railway around those awesome cliff formations, but without a good supply of iron, it will likely never happen

bowen

Screw you giant waterfall in the cave that goes nowhere!

Machismo

CarbonFire wrote: »

Man, I started a really interesting world last night. Lots of cliff and cave formations above ground, waterfalls and lavafalls all over, and floating air islands with forests growing on them.

The only problem? Every single cave system I found was full of fail. Almost no iron, gold or diamond, and only a paltry amount of coal. I had dreams of running an epic sky railway around those awesome cliff formations, but without a good supply of iron, it will likely never happen

INVEdit is your friend. Saved my ass when I had a stunning structure but had exausted the iron supply nearby(there really wasn't any left on the largish island).

Machismo

Why does Cartogtaph have random little cubes of land mapped out far outside my main explored areas? It makes the images 3x bigger than it needs to because of all the black space just to space out these little cubes of land.

SniperGuy

I agree that if you're using an inventory editor, or are leaving it on peaceful, anything you make in survival is way less impressive.

Especially the inventory editor. That's like, outright cheating. I mean sure it may be fun, but it's still cheatin'.


You aren't having "more fun" than me, you're taking shortcuts. I like fighting the monsters and whatnot. You're just using the easy way.

UncleSporky

SniperGuy wrote: »

I agree that if you're using an inventory editor, or are leaving it on peaceful, anything you make in survival is way less impressive.

Especially the inventory editor. That's like, outright cheating. I mean sure it may be fun, but it's still cheatin'.


You aren't having "more fun" than me, you're taking shortcuts. I like fighting the monsters and whatnot. You're just using the easy way.

...which is way more fun.

When I see a picture of some awesome building I never have any idea who made it or under what circumstances. Fact is, it's still awesome. Learning that it was made while dodging skeleton arrows just makes me think, "wow, you poor sap, you could've built in complete peace and had it done much sooner."

Paladin

Alright you wanna break this game? Get a bunch of water pails and a bunch of torches and put them everywhere you go. There. Now it doesn't matter what difficulty level you play.

Machismo

SniperGuy wrote: »

I agree that if you're using an inventory editor, or are leaving it on peaceful, anything you make in survival is way less impressive.

Especially the inventory editor. That's like, outright cheating. I mean sure it may be fun, but it's still cheatin'.


You aren't having "more fun" than me, you're taking shortcuts. I like fighting the monsters and whatnot. You're just using the easy way.

I am surprised people care so much how other people conduct themselves in their game.

Enjoy your game. I'll be riding around on my awesome-coaster.

Daius

Rome wasn't built in a day

BAM

Machismo

Daius wrote: »

Rome wasn't built in a day

BAM

Rome 2.0 is being built right now. And it is HTML 5 compliant!

SniperGuy

Machismo wrote: »

SniperGuy wrote: »

I agree that if you're using an inventory editor, or are leaving it on peaceful, anything you make in survival is way less impressive.

Especially the inventory editor. That's like, outright cheating. I mean sure it may be fun, but it's still cheatin'.


You aren't having "more fun" than me, you're taking shortcuts. I like fighting the monsters and whatnot. You're just using the easy way.

I am surprised people care so much how other people conduct themselves in their game.

Enjoy your game. I'll be riding around on my awesome-coaster.

I am enjoying my game. Someone tried to tell me they are having more fun because they made it easier.

Those two things do not computer. I would have less fun if it were easier. I'm not telling people how to play, I'm telling people to stop telling ME how to play.

UncleSporky

SniperGuy wrote: »

Machismo wrote: »

SniperGuy wrote: »

I agree that if you're using an inventory editor, or are leaving it on peaceful, anything you make in survival is way less impressive.

Especially the inventory editor. That's like, outright cheating. I mean sure it may be fun, but it's still cheatin'.


You aren't having "more fun" than me, you're taking shortcuts. I like fighting the monsters and whatnot. You're just using the easy way.

I am surprised people care so much how other people conduct themselves in their game.

Enjoy your game. I'll be riding around on my awesome-coaster.

I am enjoying my game. Someone tried to tell me they are having more fun because they made it easier.

Those two things do not computer. I would have less fun if it were easier. I'm not telling people how to play, I'm telling people to stop telling ME how to play.

Then maybe you should stop calling people cheaters and their structures less impressive. Peaceful play using any resources you want is just as legitimate as what you're doing.

Machismo

SniperGuy wrote: »

Machismo wrote: »

SniperGuy wrote: »

I agree that if you're using an inventory editor, or are leaving it on peaceful, anything you make in survival is way less impressive.

Especially the inventory editor. That's like, outright cheating. I mean sure it may be fun, but it's still cheatin'.


You aren't having "more fun" than me, you're taking shortcuts. I like fighting the monsters and whatnot. You're just using the easy way.

I am surprised people care so much how other people conduct themselves in their game.

Enjoy your game. I'll be riding around on my awesome-coaster.

I am enjoying my game. Someone tried to tell me they are having more fun because they made it easier.

Those two things do not computer. I would have less fun if it were easier. I'm not telling people how to play, I'm telling people to stop telling ME how to play.

I said it. I was being sarcastic, honestly. For some, difficulty does not translate to a better and more fun experience. I prefer being able to build and being creative (there! I said it!) then barely averting death. I prefer working on my insanely large fortress and the transportation system. Up until the transport system, I played using the resource I mined. Eventually, those limitations became an obstacle to fun. INVedit let me have the iron I needed to build the massive structure.
Besides, I enjoy playing on my 'pure' world, World 5, where I routinely get turned into a crater or arrowed to hell. Hell, my current save state, I am a bloody mess on the floor of my 'safe' room. Fucking skeleton spawned from a hidden nook in the corner the grew grass thanks to an adjacent torch.

Paladin

SniperGuy wrote: »

Machismo wrote: »

SniperGuy wrote: »

I agree that if you're using an inventory editor, or are leaving it on peaceful, anything you make in survival is way less impressive.

Especially the inventory editor. That's like, outright cheating. I mean sure it may be fun, but it's still cheatin'.


You aren't having "more fun" than me, you're taking shortcuts. I like fighting the monsters and whatnot. You're just using the easy way.

I am surprised people care so much how other people conduct themselves in their game.

Enjoy your game. I'll be riding around on my awesome-coaster.

I am enjoying my game. Someone tried to tell me they are having more fun because they made it easier.

Those two things do not computer. I would have less fun if it were easier. I'm not telling people how to play, I'm telling people to stop telling ME how to play.

they can too computer

Machismo

Paladin wrote: »

SniperGuy wrote: »

Machismo wrote: »

SniperGuy wrote: »

I agree that if you're using an inventory editor, or are leaving it on peaceful, anything you make in survival is way less impressive.

Especially the inventory editor. That's like, outright cheating. I mean sure it may be fun, but it's still cheatin'.


You aren't having "more fun" than me, you're taking shortcuts. I like fighting the monsters and whatnot. You're just using the easy way.

I am surprised people care so much how other people conduct themselves in their game.

Enjoy your game. I'll be riding around on my awesome-coaster.

I am enjoying my game. Someone tried to tell me they are having more fun because they made it easier.

Those two things do not computer. I would have less fun if it were easier. I'm not telling people how to play, I'm telling people to stop telling ME how to play.

they can too computer

Hey Kid! Ima computah!


Anyway, I get where he is coming from. I played CounterStrike with that attitude and saw a 'proper' way to play that, I felt encouraged a better game. I know I enjoyed it more and I felt was a real skill experience.

That doesn't mean a 'surf' map isn't fun or snipers aren't a legitimate play style. Those just are experiences that I enjoyed.


Anyway, if I want a challenge, I tend to go to my console. Consequently, Minecraft isn't my first choice for a touch, challenging experience.

SniperGuy

I mean. Using an external resource to modify your inventory is like the definition of cheating. Not that that isn't fun or anything.

Daius

Of course according to Notch spacing ladder tiles is cheating

SniperGuy

I'd call that more of a clever work around. Something he can patch out if he wants.

Kris_xK

SniperGuy wrote: »

I'd call that more of a clever work around. Something he can patch out if he wants.

SniperGuy wrote: »

You aren't having "more fun" than me, you're taking shortcuts. I like fighting the monsters and whatnot. You're just using the easy way.

Silly Goose, shortcuts are for cheaters.

UncleSporky

SniperGuy wrote: »

I'd call that more of a clever work around. Something he can patch out if he wants.

Precisely what inventory editing is. He could encrypt his files better, but he has chosen not to.

I assume you didn't look up any recipes or learned how to stop monsters spawning online either? Or used Cartograph or any other mods?

crucialityfactor

Everyone using the inventory editor will just miss out on the awesome hat that Notch releases.

Machismo

So does my infinite inertia engine count as cheating or a clever work around? It is as much an exploit as ladders every other block, except this one allows some amazing rail systems and the other just saves resources.

hatedinamerica

Machismo wrote: »

So does my infinite inertia engine count as cheating or a clever work around? It is as much an exploit as ladders every other block, except this one allows some amazing rail systems and the other just saves resources.

I vaguely remember something about this but I hadn't even bought the game yet at that point. Could you explain it again? I would love to have an effective way of minecarting around.

SniperGuy

Cheating: Giving yourself an unfair advantage through use of a code or external program. Such as giving yourself a diamond pick to start, throwing tons of resources in your inventory, etc. It's cheating. THat's just what it is. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, but using the inventory editor to do that is cheating. Like in Neverwinter Nights, giving yourself a bunch of magic shit to start with is cheating. You're cirumventing the system to make it easier. This may be more fun for you, but personally if you remove all the challenge you screw up the game.


I do not consider using an external program to create a map of your world cheating. Especially since that'll likely be in the final version. It gives you no unfair advantage.


Using ingame mechanics to work around certain things, like ladders every other space, whatever this infinite inertia machine is, are exploits in a way, but since they're doable in the game engine they're not cheating. Exploits maybe? There's a better word but it isn't coming to mind.


A guide on HOW to play the game (there's no tutorial yet) isn't cheating, clearly. I mean seriously people, these distinctions are not hard to make.

Cheating in this manner may make the game more fun for you. But when the game is actually final and released, I seriously doubt any of you using inventory editors will bother with Survival.

I mean, it's called survival. The objective is to survive.

bowen

If you want to be pedantic, you're exploiting then.

But cheating, colloquially, applies. Technically, taking out a pistol and shooting the ref for a bad call is just as bad as drugging him up so he misses a few calls while you beat the shit out of the guy you tackled.

Paladin

SniperGuy wrote: »

Cheating: Giving yourself an unfair advantage through use of a code or external program. Such as giving yourself a diamond pick to start, throwing tons of resources in your inventory, etc. It's cheating. THat's just what it is. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, but using the inventory editor to do that is cheating. Like in Neverwinter Nights, giving yourself a bunch of magic shit to start with is cheating. You're cirumventing the system to make it easier. This may be more fun for you, but personally if you remove all the challenge you screw up the game.


I do not consider using an external program to create a map of your world cheating. Especially since that'll likely be in the final version. It gives you no unfair advantage.


Using ingame mechanics to work around certain things, like ladders every other space, whatever this infinite inertia machine is, are exploits in a way, but since they're doable in the game engine they're not cheating. Exploits maybe? There's a better word but it isn't coming to mind.


A guide on HOW to play the game (there's no tutorial yet) isn't cheating, clearly. I mean seriously people, these distinctions are not hard to make.

Cheating in this manner may make the game more fun for you. But when the game is actually final and released, I seriously doubt any of you using inventory editors will bother with Survival.

I mean, it's called survival. The objective is to survive.

unless you can't be bothered to go all the way back home so you put all your stuff in a chest and set yourself on fire

UncleSporky

Well sure, that's fine. If you can insist that, then I can too: what you're doing is the definition of "not fun." Spending a really long time to accomplish what you could be doing in minutes? Dying and losing your inventory over and over again? Pretty much the agreed upon definition of "not fun." You're spending a lot of time on a thing that could easily not require it.

I mean, you can keep saying you're having fun. That's cool, I'll just keep saying I'm not cheating, because I'm not.

SniperGuy

UncleSporky wrote: »

Well sure, that's fine. If you can insist that, then I can too: what you're doing is the definition of "not fun." Spending a really long time to accomplish what you could be doing in minutes? Dying and losing your inventory over and over again? Pretty much the agreed upon definition of "not fun." You're spending a lot of time on a thing that could easily not require it.

Playing the game like it was designed isn't fun? You have to modify it to eek any enjoyment out of it?


I'm sorry you have that problem? I certainly don't. And clearly neither do many people.


Fun is subjective UncleSporky. Stop telling me I'm having mine wrong.

I could also use an aimbot in Counter Strike and I wouldn't be dying all the time! But that wouldn't be fun.

Because someone people don't find cheating enjoyable.

SniperGuy

How the fuck is editing your inventory not cheating? Like, this blows my mind that you think it isn't. I don't care if you do it, I just don't understand why you don't understand that it is cheating. It's basically a Minecraft Gameshark.