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A Shock Doctrine

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    peterdevorepeterdevore Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    hidden Messages.

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Maybe its a TVTropes thing

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2011
    No, for real. The capitalization Of random Words.

    Why?

    i do it for emphasis and because i think it's funny

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    I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    They aren't random, it's a form of emphasis.

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    FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    No, for real. The capitalization Of random Words.

    Why?

    Emphasis

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    CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Ok.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f61KMw5zVhg&feature=related

    feynman, quit being amazing, i'm tryin ta get shit done

    I totally get and respect where he's coming from, and largely agree with him. However I think it's important to keep in mind he himself is saying it doesn't make sense to him. He doesn't care for such things. They're not something he values. That doesn't mean they're completely useless. As is usually the case, there are two sides to the coin. Yes, such honors can exclude people that have also done excellent work but just weren't deemed worthy by some panel of old dudes. On the other hand, such honors can inspire people and even if Feynman didn't care about his Nobel, getting it got his name out there and made people more aware of his work and lectures which is absolutely a good thing!

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I'm reminded of the allegory of the cave

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2011
    well, and he's not saying that honors are a bad thing, just that he doesn't like or trust them.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2011
    Yeah, I wasn't arguing against you because you didn't say they're bad. I was just giving my perspective because I could see some people watching that and coming away all, "yeah, fuck awards they're such bullshit!"

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    well, and he's not saying that honors are a bad thing, just that he doesn't like or trust them.

    I think it's more that he doesn't like the academic back-patting that comes with them. If someone wants to give him the honour that's fine, it's that people think that the honour is the reward, not the science and the truth, that's what irritates him.

    Still, great videos Orik. Thanks for posting them.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2011
    feynman is generally opposed to focusing one's ambition on things that aren't discovery or self-actualization, i think.

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    feynman is generally opposed to focusing one's ambition on things that aren't discovery or self-actualization, i think.

    Well! No plaques with "World's Most Awesome Guy" engraved on them for him then

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    Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Edcrab wrote: »
    In completely unrelated news Iran is threatening to boycott the Londom olympics because of how utterly shitty the logo design is

    Well not really but if that had been the reason for it I'd have been right behind them
    don't megathread me, bro

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2011
    this is not a feynman video but still really entertaining

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3JCD388D10&feature=player_embedded#at=413

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    CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Macro9 wrote: »
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    <3

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    Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Macro9 wrote: »
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    <3

    I am somewhat proud of that post. So please forgive me while I run the shtick into the ground.

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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
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    UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Solar wrote:
    I was simply saying that sometimes people can be overly theoretical about politics.

    Sometimes you need to think about what you can actually do

    This is true of more than politics - essentially everything that has theoretical studies

    For example: shipbuilding

    I can go and read a hundred papers about pre-outfitting and designing blocks/units for production that people in the shipbuilding research community have spent years developing the theory and then figure out how to implement them

    However! If someone didn't have those ideas, or spend the effort researching and debating and developing the theory behind them, then I as a shipbuilder would never be able to use them.

    Sure some of the theory they've developed is useless here in the US, but it may be useful elsewhere in the world - also the converse. But you have to learn about the theory to be able to choose which system works best and then develop your own plan about how to integrate it into your shipbuilding process (or your economy)

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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    contract capitalism

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Boats are dumb. Who cares?

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Usagi wrote: »
    Solar wrote:
    I was simply saying that sometimes people can be overly theoretical about politics.

    Sometimes you need to think about what you can actually do

    This is true of more than politics - essentially everything that has theoretical studies

    For example: shipbuilding

    I can go and read a hundred papers about pre-outfitting and designing blocks/units for production that people in the shipbuilding research community have spent years developing the theory and then figure out how to implement them

    However! If someone didn't have those ideas, or spend the effort researching and debating and developing the theory behind them, then I as a shipbuilder would never be able to use them.

    Sure some of the theory they've developed is useless here in the US, but it may be useful elsewhere in the world - also the converse. But you have to learn about the theory to be able to choose which system works best and then develop your own plan about how to integrate it into your shipbuilding process (or your economy)

    Sure, sure. Got to have the theory to develop the practice, and I'm not saying theory should be demolished in any area. God no. But at some point, you have to put the practise into effect, and people who could do some good arguing about theory all the time is like two ship-builder who never build anything because they argue about, I don't know, keels all the time or whatever.

    Sometimes, you gotta build a damn boat

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    LTMLTM Bikes and BeardsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Solar wrote: »
    Sometimes, you gotta build a damn boat

    Then find the little man in it.

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    DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    pity all the people who have knowledge of complex political theory are on internet forums and not politics.

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    LTMLTM Bikes and BeardsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    pity all the people who have knowledge of complex political theory are on internet forums and not politics.

    Hitler started in beer halls, maaaaaaan.

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    UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Solar wrote: »
    Usagi wrote: »
    Solar wrote:
    I was simply saying that sometimes people can be overly theoretical about politics.

    Sometimes you need to think about what you can actually do

    This is true of more than politics - essentially everything that has theoretical studies

    For example: shipbuilding

    I can go and read a hundred papers about pre-outfitting and designing blocks/units for production that people in the shipbuilding research community have spent years developing the theory and then figure out how to implement them

    However! If someone didn't have those ideas, or spend the effort researching and debating and developing the theory behind them, then I as a shipbuilder would never be able to use them.

    Sure some of the theory they've developed is useless here in the US, but it may be useful elsewhere in the world - also the converse. But you have to learn about the theory to be able to choose which system works best and then develop your own plan about how to integrate it into your shipbuilding process (or your economy)

    Sure, sure. Got to have the theory to develop the practice, and I'm not saying theory should be demolished in any area. God no. But at some point, you have to put the practise into effect, and people who could do some good arguing about theory all the time is like two ship-builder who never build anything because they argue about, I don't know, keels all the time or whatever.

    Sometimes, you gotta build a damn boat

    Ah yes you do indeed

    But without the theories we're discussing being put into practice, we'd still be building ships the old fashioned way with hull first, then framing, then superstructure and outfitting which is much more materials and labor intensive than building blocks on the ground and assembling the blocks in the drydock

    All the arguing about theory is good because that's one way new theories are developed

    But you're right, it takes a great deal of effort to make those theories useful, sometimes significant changes are needed and oh look you've developed a new theory too!

    Research and application, both inherently valuable.

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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    pity all the people who have knowledge of complex political theory are on internet forums and not politics.

    http://www.ehow.com/how_2326169_politicsgetting-foot-door.html

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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Be loyal and sincere. Candidates and their staff members MUST surround themselves with people they can trust. Be that person.

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    DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    actually I lied, some of those people are in university socialism clubs

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    Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    This is one of the most self-aware politics threads I've read in SE++

    Which is pretty cool.

    (And yeah to the earlier people saying they're dumb and also bad at knowledge that's me. I want to change it, but at the moment I'm too lazy and discouraged.)

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    wooo

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    yay

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    I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    This is one of the most self-aware politics threads I've read in SE++

    Which is pretty cool.

    (And yeah to the earlier people saying they're dumb and also bad at knowledge that's me. I want to change it, but at the moment I'm too lazy and discouraged.)

    You think Key wants a dummy?

    You get your shit in gear, Vis, and you get yourself a korean boy.

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    We gawda pratact dem transgendah and queeah ladyboohs...erah...regahdless of collah cuz we all fans a da same RED SAWX!

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    LTMLTM Bikes and BeardsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Butters wrote: »
    We gawda pratact dem transgendah and queeah ladyboohs...erah...regahdless of collah cuz we all fans a da same RED SAWX!

    I was wondering if it was too soon to bring back the Boston accents. Thanks, Butters.

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    Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    This is one of the most self-aware politics threads I've read in SE++

    Which is pretty cool.

    (And yeah to the earlier people saying they're dumb and also bad at knowledge that's me. I want to change it, but at the moment I'm too lazy and discouraged.)

    You think Key wants a dummy?

    You get your shit in gear, Vis, and you get yourself a korean boy.

    :cry:

    I totally have two of Neil Tyson's books and Origin of Species on my bookshelf. Baby steps...

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    CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    So Lindsay Graham is saying that the National Intelligence Director should be fired for giving his honest assessment of the situation in Libya, after he was called to give his assessment of said situation.

    Apparently all it takes to get Lindsay Graham totally butthurt is to not tell him exactly what he wants to hear.

    Unbelievable.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/03/10/us.libya/index.html?hpt=T2

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    LTM wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    We gawda pratact dem transgendah and queeah ladyboohs...erah...regahdless of collah cuz we all fans a da same RED SAWX!

    I was wondering if it was too soon to bring back the Boston accents. Thanks, Butters.

    nawt fayuh

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Tawm Brady is da best transgenda quattaback der is. NO ONE DENIES THIS!

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