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Video Game Industry Thread: December's done, time for the next one

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Dead Island is one of the best games of the year. I never had any problems with abundant bugs. Every now and then you'd come across some minor shit, but that happens in every game. I do agree that the resort area is the best part of the game and the other areas are a major step down, but I didn't feel they were flat out awful.

    As for not living up to the trailer, while I'm all in favor of a game where you chuck little girls out of hotel room windows I think something like that would be better suited for flash or iOS than for a full-priced retail game.

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    Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    That wasn't even what I was expecting, but I guess some of you dudes are more apologetic about this game than I would ever be.

    As far as bugs are concerned, I've honestly haven't played a more buggy mess since Sonic 2006 and that's saying a lot. However, I guess it only applies to the console versions.

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    I'm not being apologetic, I genuinely enjoyed it and thought it was all around awesome.

    Because it was.

    But I feel that way about any game that lets me apply katanas to the zombie problem.

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    Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    I did that in a better game. It was called Dead Rising 2.

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Never played it. Word of mouth was less than stellar.

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    AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    Famitsu Sales: Week 52, 2011 (Dec 19 - Dec 25)

    01./03. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - * / 1.082.391
    02./00. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2011.12.22} (¥7.800)
    03./05. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - * / 1.042.511
    04./02. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
    05./06. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.27} (¥5.800)
    06./08. [WII] Just Dance Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.13} (¥5.800)
    07./01. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2011.12.15} (¥7.980)
    08./04. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine / Dark <RPG> (Level 5) {2011.12.15} (¥5.800)
    09./00. [3DS] SD Gundam G Generation 3D # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.12.22} (¥6.090)
    10./00. [WII] Inazuma Eleven Strikers 2012 Xtreme <SPT> (Level 5) {2011.12.22} (¥4.980)

    Stolen from GAF

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    Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    reVerse wrote:
    Never played it. Japanese games tend to be poop these days.

    Too bad because that's what I think of Dead Island. BOOM! /opinions

    reVerse wrote:
    Never played it. Word of mouth was less than stellar.

    I can say that about this game too.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    reVerse wrote:
    I'm not being apologetic, I genuinely enjoyed it and thought it was all around awesome.

    Because it was.

    But I feel that way about any game that lets me apply toxic katanas to the zombie problem.

    FTFY

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    Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    I can put a katana on a sickle in Dead Rising. You can keep your one dimensional weapons.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    I'm a huge Dead Rising fan myself. You just can't compare the two. One is more of an MMO the other is more of... I don't know how you'd explain Dead Rising.

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    Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Awesome is the word.

    Thinking about it now my personal disappointment this year was Earth Defense Force: Insect Armageddon. How do you fuck up a game where you just shoot bugs? There wasn't even much you could fuck up to begin with!

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    AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    Shady3011 wrote:
    Awesome is the word.

    Thinking about it now my real, personal disappointment this year was Earth Defense Force: Insect Armageddon. How do you fuck up a game where you just shoot bugs? There wasn't even much you could fuck up to begin with!

    In order for that game to work the game developer has to be in on the joke. They were not this time around.

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Shady3011 wrote:
    That wasn't even what I was expecting, but I guess some of you dudes are more apologetic about this game than I would ever be.

    As far as bugs are concerned, I've honestly haven't played a more buggy mess since Sonic 2006 and that's saying a lot. However, I guess it only applies to the console versions.

    I have the console version and I never got any bugs. But then I love both Dead Rising and Dead Island. Well, I like Dead Rising if you skip the cut scenes I mean.

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    Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    I like that in Dead Rising, you can take a photo of a woman's crotch as she's being devoured by a horde of zombies, and you get points for "Erotic"

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote:
    I like that in Dead Rising, you can take a photo of a woman's crotch as she's being devoured by a horde of zombies, and you get points for "Erotic"

    You can even take a picture of a zombie cooter too!

    It also horrifies me that you like that.

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    AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    Algertman wrote:
    Famitsu Sales: Week 52, 2011 (Dec 19 - Dec 25)

    01./03. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - * / 1.082.391
    02./00. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2011.12.22} (¥7.800)
    03./05. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - * / 1.042.511
    04./02. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
    05./06. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.27} (¥5.800)
    06./08. [WII] Just Dance Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.13} (¥5.800)
    07./01. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2011.12.15} (¥7.980)
    08./04. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine / Dark <RPG> (Level 5) {2011.12.15} (¥5.800)
    09./00. [3DS] SD Gundam G Generation 3D # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.12.22} (¥6.090)
    10./00. [WII] Inazuma Eleven Strikers 2012 Xtreme <SPT> (Level 5) {2011.12.22} (¥4.980)

    Stolen from GAF

    Takeaways: Nintendo consoles lock in 8 out of 10 spots, and Vita software drops out of the Top 10.

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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    man dead island may have been buggy as hell but it was still fun! weapon crafting in that game was a hundred times better than duct-taping two already weapons together. DR2 was an actual disappointment for me, as it was basically a carbon copy of DR1 with a less good story and setting.
    oh and 4 player co-op in DI is a blast, nothing like 4 dudes kicking one giant zombie

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    AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    And hardware

    3DS 482,200
    PSP 101,121
    Wii 91,176
    PS3 75,943
    Vita 72,479
    DSi LL 8,470
    DSi 5,894
    Xbox 360 4,245
    PS2 10.50
    DS Lite 32

    http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20111228008/

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    AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    Algertman wrote:
    And hardware

    3DS 482,200
    PSP 101,121
    Wii 91,176
    PS3 75,943
    Vita 72,479
    DSi LL 8,470
    DSi 5,894
    Xbox 360 4,245
    PS2 10.50
    DS Lite 32

    http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20111228008/

    Vita cleared by its predecessor! 3DS reigns supreme!

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Takeaways: Nintendo consoles lock in 8 out of 10 spots, and Vita software drops out of the Top 10.

    With the 4gamer info above, software on Nintendo's platforms in 16 out of 20 spots, and Vita software not even in the top 20.

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    Sony needs Monster Hunter bad.

    The situation may be different once they launch in the US, though.

    EDIT: Supply constrained, maybe?

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    Wow people are still gobbling up the PSP huh?

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    AllforceAllforce Registered User regular

    doom%20is%20awesome.jpg

    you got a high-rez version of this?

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    SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Why don't we get numbers for all games in Media Create? Didn't we used to? Did they pull an NPD?

    FFXIII-2 tanking is the best Christmas gift.

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    Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    That has to be one of the best pictures I've ever seen on the internets.

    It needs to be in every Industry Thread OP from now on!

    Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
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    RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    It's possible the Wi-Fi version of the Vita (i.e. the version that's actually selling) is sold out and sales would be higher if they had scrapped the 3G version and just made more Wi-Fi units.

    Then again, it's also possible that the Vita is getting off to a rocky start due to the high price despite having one of the stronger launch lineups we've seen.

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    AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    urahonky wrote:
    Wow people are still gobbling up the PSP huh?

    Japan loves the PSP. Monster Hunter, JRPGs, and visual novels keep it floating along.
    Allforce wrote:
    you got a high-rez version of this?

    Sadly no. This is the biggest I can find and the other is of better quality.
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    But you can own the shirt!
    http://www.welovefine.com/product.php?id_product=166

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    I find it more funny that somebody apparently bought half a PS2.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    It's possible the Wi-Fi version of the Vita (i.e. the version that's actually selling) is sold out and sales would be higher if they had scrapped the 3G version and just made more Wi-Fi units.

    Then again, it's also possible that the Vita is getting off to a rocky start due to the high price despite having one of the stronger launch lineups we've seen.

    I know there's a bigger difference between PSP/Go and DSi/XL than Vita Wifi/3G, but I still wish we could see that breakdown too.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Algertman wrote:
    And hardware

    3DS 482,200
    PSP 101,121
    Wii 91,176
    PS3 75,943
    Vita 72,479
    DSi LL 8,470
    DSi 5,894
    Xbox 360 4,245
    PS2 10.50
    DS Lite 32

    http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20111228008/

    :shock: Um, wow. I think the takeaway here isn't just that the Vita had a crappy week, it's that the 3DS has become a goddamn monster. Seriously, every other system sold pretty weakly.

    At any rate, knowing Sony (and the last-minute "hey we technically got it out before Christmas!" nature of the launch) it's entirely possible the Vita's been supply constrained, but any way you slice it this isn't looking encouraging.

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    SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Dragkonias wrote:
    I look at Duke Nuk'em being more of a case of "You get what you asked for."

    Duke Nukem Forever got further balled by Bulletstorm coming out in 2011 and being everything a modern Duke Nukem game should have been. Way to show em ep, Bulletstorm!
    I love Bulletstorm.


    Check out The Club, created by the venerable Bizarre Creations. Bullstorm was basically The Club with more EXTREEEEME and less 'Tude.

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    EVOLEVOL Registered User regular
    Wow, the Vita really is fucked no? Did the original DS ever outsell the 3DS after it came out?

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Sheep wrote:
    Why don't we get numbers for all games in Media Create? Didn't we used to? Did they pull an NPD?

    FFXIII-2 tanking is the best Christmas gift.

    I think earlier numbers were just a preview before the full release.
    Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2011 (Dec 19 - Dec 25)

    01./03. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) {2011-12-01} - 260,836 / 1,050,706 (+43%)
    02./00. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 2 (Koei Tecmo) {2011-12-22} - 200,526 / NEW
    03./05. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo) {2011-11-03} - 174,566 / 1,011,709 (+55%)
    04./02. [3DS] Monster Hunter Tri G (Capcom) {2011-12-10} - 155,069 / 885,456 (-26%)
    05./01. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 (Square Enix) {2011-12-15} - 118,816 / 643,033 (-77%)
    06./06. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land (Nintendo) {2011-10-27} - 114,545 / 513,061 (+61%)
    07./09. [WII] Just Dance Wii (Nintendo) {2011-10-13} - 96,771 / 420,064 (+120%)
    08./00. [3DS] SD Gundam G Generation 3D (Bandai Namco) {2011-12-22} - 90,873 / NEW
    09./04. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine / Dark (Level 5) {2011-12-15} - 86,026 / 221,285 (-36%)
    10./00. [WII] Inazuma Eleven Strikers 2012 Xtreme (Level 5) {2011-12-22} - 85,117 / NEW
    11./11. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) {2010-07-08} - 71,461 / 2,200,697 (+68%)
    12./00. [PSP] Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's Portable: The Gears of Destiny (Bandai Namco) {2011-12-22} - 57,320 / NEW
    13./10. [WII] PokePark 2: Beyond the World (Pokemon Co.) {2011-11-12} - 55,344 / 219,362 (+26%)
    14./17. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Ketteiban (Bandai Namco) {2011-11-23} - 55,256 / 155,539 (+84%)
    15./13. [WII] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Nintendo) {2011-12-08} - 52,611 / 117,185 (+53%)
    16./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Dubbed Edition (Square Enix) {2011-12-22} - 51,156 / NEW
    17./12. [NDS] Magician's Quest: Osharena Mahoutsukai (Konami) {2011-12-10} - 50,074 / 131,184 (+43%)
    18./20. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle! 2 New World (Bandai Namco) {2011-11-17} - 49,921 / 257,379 (+76%)
    19./16. [WII] Wii Sports Resort with Wii Remote Plus (Nintendo) {2010-11-11} - 48,929 / 782,975 (+59%)
    20./21. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) {2008-04-10} - 43,752 / 3,428,903

    HARDWARE

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    | System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year |        YTD |   Last YTD |         LTD | 
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    | 3DS    |   482,200 |   367,691 |         0 |  4,084,190 |          0 |   4,084,191 | 
    | PSP #  |   101,121 |    64,468 |   177,691 |  2,000,866 |  2,798,338 |  18,666,617 | 
    | WII    |    91,176 |    60,916 |   131,761 |    850,375 |  1,597,131 |  12,130,013 | 
    | PS3    |    75,943 |    65,119 |    64,228 |  1,481,696 |  1,509,700 |   7,569,186 | 
    | PSV    |    72,479 |   324,859 |         0 |    397,338 |          0 |     397,338 | 
    | NDS #  |    14,396 |     9,155 |   191,583 |    651,985 |  2,772,043 |  32,802,684 | 
    | 360    |     4,245 |     3,584 |     5,298 |    113,095 |    207,118 |   1,533,592 | 
    | PS2    |     1,582 |     1,400 |     2,604 |     76,355 |     83,439 |  21,772,448 | 
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    | ALL    |   843,142 |   897,192 |   573,165 |  9,655,900 |  8,967,769 |  98,956,069 | 
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    | PSP    |   101,121 |    64,468 |   177,691 |  2,000,866 |  2,722,751 |  18,490,652 | 
    | DSiLL  |     8,470 |     5,600 |    92,329 |    343,379 |  1,392,878 |   2,290,963 | 
    | DSi    |     5,894 |     3,523 |    93,464 |    287,911 |  1,156,743 |   5,831,632 | 
    | DSL    |        32 |        32 |     5,790 |     20,695 |    222,422 |  18,094,618 | 
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    Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    The Club was pretty awesome! My friend bought it and hated it, I thought it was pretty boss. It was like a shooter/racing game.

    Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Geez, no Vita games in the top 20?

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    Who knows, maybe we'll get a complete 180 reversal of the PSP situation. The Vita utterly tanks in Japan, but becomes an juggernaut in America.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    It's too soon to call anything, it's just fun to watch stuff like this. Both handhelds will be fine in the long run.

    BTW, 3DS's second week in Japan (March 2011) was 209k, PSP's second week (Dec 2004) was 85k.

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    AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    EVOL wrote:
    Wow, the Vita really is fucked no? Did the original DS ever outsell the 3DS after it came out?

    Not of the top of my head. But the PSP did outsell the 3DS a few weeks later. The PSP is decently strong in Japan. After the 3DS came out, Japan's charts tended to be PSP > 3DS > PS3.

    But as the situation with the 3DS shows, Sony is missing that perfect storm that helped the 3DS clean up. (price drop, Mario Kart, Mario 3D, Monster Hunter). They won't react until the Western launches though.

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    RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    EVOL wrote:
    Wow, the Vita really is fucked no? Did the original DS ever outsell the 3DS after it came out?

    Yes. Don't remember how often it occurred and if it happened worldwide, but I was able to find this quote from an official Nintendo press release pretty easily so it at least happened once.
    Nintendo sold more than 800,000 combined hardware units in June. This includes 386,000 units of the Nintendo DS™ family of systems, 273,000 Wii™ systems and 143,000 Nintendo 3DS systems. Each product line saw double-digit growth over the previous month, and the lifetime U.S. installed base for the Wii system crossed 36 million units.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    But as the situation with the 3DS shows, Sony is missing that perfect storm that helped the 3DS clean up. (price drop, Mario Kart, Mario 3D, Monster Hunter). They won't react until the Western launches though.

    And while there's nothing magical about a "trifecta," the 3DS is still missing that third game in the west, something that appeals to more mature audiences, or at least obsessive role-playing types. Even if it had MH here, it wouldn't have the same effect. And I don't think Resident Evil's going to solve the problem, either.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    But as the situation with the 3DS shows, Sony is missing that perfect storm that helped the 3DS clean up. (price drop, Mario Kart, Mario 3D, Monster Hunter). They won't react until the Western launches though.

    And while there's nothing magical about a "trifecta," the 3DS is still missing that third game in the west, something that appeals to more mature audiences, or at least obsessive role-playing types. Even if it had MH here, it wouldn't have the same effect. And I don't think Resident Evil's going to solve the problem, either.

    But are mature games all that important to portable systems? The PSP had plenty of them, and aside from GTA none of them sold all that well.

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