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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    It's really as if we peaked into the subconscious of Giger.

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    CrowbawtCrowbawt Member of the Midnight Crew Registered User regular
    My favorite monsters are all video game things because I'm a huge dumb nerd

    Oh wait, I tend to like Guillermo Del Toro's stuff.

    I didn't dislike Pandora's creatures per say, I just didn't think they were mindblowing. Plus I'm bitter that anything bioluminscent now is immediately ripping off Avatar and not ya know, the deep ocean.

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    pandora was just a couple wow zones rolled into one anyway

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    The same way
    Crowbawt wrote:
    My favorite monsters are all video game things because I'm a huge dumb nerd

    Oh wait, I tend to like Guillermo Del Toro's stuff.

    I didn't dislike Pandora's creatures per say, I just didn't think they were mindblowing. Plus I'm bitter that anything bioluminscent now is immediately ripping off Avatar and not ya know, the deep ocean.

    So we cant draw inspiration from nature without it being 'ripping off'? Practically every creature design is based on some sort of earth lifeform that exists or has existed.

    as for Gullermo's stuff, thats fantasy, making cool-looking creatures is like the only design requirement. They look awesome tho of course.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    TheStig wrote:
    pandora was just a couple wow zones rolled into one anyway

    there was some stupid commercial for something tying into Avatar that showed audiences marveling at the sheer creativity in the film

    one guy says "Who ever heard of mountains that float?"

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    that is like, the number on fantasy "this shit is magic!" visual que. Floating mountains.

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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Melding wrote:
    that is like, the number on fantasy "this shit is magic!" visual que. Floating mountains.

    I still primarily think of Upsidaisium.

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    AdusAdus Registered User regular
    Yeah the Alien Queen is still one of my favorite creature designs.

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    We talking creature designs? The original Alien from the first movie, the 'worker' or whatever it's called nowadays; that thing has a human skull inside it's long translucent skull.

    Only noticed this last year!

    I don't think the Aliens onwards designs have a human skull in there. But dayamn that's a creepy detail.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    chiasaur11 wrote:
    Melding wrote:
    that is like, the number on fantasy "this shit is magic!" visual que. Floating mountains.

    I still primarily think of Upsidaisium.

    Chaos Emeralds.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Prohass wrote:
    What are peoples examples of good creature designs? Or their favourites?

    You're asking this in the Aliens thread.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Also have people mentioned that the entire concept of the Aliens is that they represent rape?

    They rape you in the face, then you give birth to their rape-baby (and die), they look like dicks, and they stalk you in the shadows, hunt you down and either kill you with their phallic tail or their phallic tongue. The fact that Ripley is female is also significant here (although she wasn't originally meant to be, but the fact that she is just adds to it). In the first one, Lambert dies by an Alien tail up her ass.

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    They perpetuate rape culture and anyone who enjoys the movies is an awful person

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    KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator Mod Emeritus
    Interviews with giger about the creature design are super creepy

    He's a weird fucking duck

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Also their acid blood is STDs.

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    SpherickSpherick Registered User regular
    Pretty much all of Giger's stuff is like that though

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    SimBen wrote:
    Also have people mentioned that the entire concept of the Aliens is that they represent rape?

    In the first one, Lambert dies by an Alien tail up her ass.

    Thank you! Man. I mention this to people, they're all "what, that doesn't happen."

    It uses the tail to rip her clothes off - cause when Ripley finally arrives, you see Lambert's naked leg/foot dripping with blood. How do people not get that? :/

    Sidenote; Parker was rather silly there. Always felt like they hadn't thought of a good way to kill him off before the grand finale, and just added that bit.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    SimBen wrote:
    Also have people mentioned that the entire concept of the Aliens is that they represent rape?

    They rape you in the face, then you give birth to their rape-baby (and die), they look like dicks, and they stalk you in the shadows, hunt you down and either kill you with their phallic tail or their phallic tongue. The fact that Ripley is female is also significant here (although she wasn't originally meant to be, but the fact that she is just adds to it). In the first one, Lambert dies by an Alien tail up her ass.

    Isn't that the whole basis for the movie? "you know what hasn't been done in a horror film before? Homosexual male rape. It'll disturb their shit."

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    FCDFCD Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote:
    Also have people mentioned that the entire concept of the Aliens is that they represent rape?

    In the first one, Lambert dies by an Alien tail up her ass.

    Thank you! Man. I mention this to people, they're all "what, that doesn't happen."

    It uses the tail to rip her clothes off - cause when Ripley finally arrives, you see Lambert's naked leg/foot dripping with blood. How do people not get that? :/

    And if that wasn't clue enough, there's that final scream she makes. You know, that horrible one that becomes all gurgly and then goes super high pitched at the end. That pretty much makes it clear as crystal.

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    Samir Duran DuranSamir Duran Duran Registered User regular
    Avatar had a guy in a mech suit pull a mecha knife out to fight a guy.

    Avatar irked me some but holy shit those exoskeletons General Ripper and his goons used were so goddamn sweet, the human interface part in particular. I was so mad when those goofy hammerhead rhinos took them out without a fight.

    I mean how thick can rhino bone even be because those guns presumably shot really oversized slugs like some kinda rail gun and nature has got nothing on that shit.

    ...goddamn nature.

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    FCDFCD Registered User regular
    Well, Avatar is like super powered glow-y nature, with more floating mountains and other impossible shit. So yeah, that's why they could take on mechs. The giant mecha-sized knife was still cool, though.

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    space nature

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    it is really quite astonishing that avatar could feature a giant robot with a giant robot knife try to giant robot knife fight something

    and still have me revile it so much

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    Samir Duran DuranSamir Duran Duran Registered User regular
    Quoth wrote:
    I liked predators

    It was fun

    I also like avp2 better than avp because of the end basically, and also because haha dumb teenagers

    It also had "get to the chopper".

    That movie had me rolling my eyes with how straight it played the horror/action movie death points system though. Only movie I can remember seeing recently that telegraphed who was gonna die that hard was Flyboys and man what.

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Dichotomy wrote:
    it is really quite astonishing that avatar could feature a giant robot with a giant robot knife try to giant robot knife fight something

    and still have me revile it so much

    It's amazing how bored I was with a movie that was mostly killing hippie furries.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    well, part of the problem is that the hippie furries won

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    yeah...

    like i said before, it would be a much better movie if it just ended at that shot of them in jail

    maybe throw in a final genocide scene

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    To be fair, I could also see a herd of charging Earth rhinos taking them down.

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    The space Rhinos weren't invincible. It's just there was a lot more of them than there were giant mechs with big guns. Can't shoot em all.

    And Stig, man, human beats alien all the time in movies. About time we had one where human fails horribly.

    Also the massive bomber spaceship was the best part of Avatar. Damn that thing was cool.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    Man, I saw that Prometheus trailer, and there wasn't really that much to get excited about.

    Just some alien props and some exterior planet shots.

    Like I am definitely interested in this as a movie. But that trailer was not set up to excite me.

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    The content isn't what got me, it was the presentation; the Alien style title card, the music ripped direct from the first movie, it seemed put together to contradict all the previous statements and declare "YEP, Alien movie right here!"

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    PersonfacePersonface HAIL GAY SATANRegistered User regular
    It feels like a genuine Alien film rather than a continuation of a franchise, if that makes sense.

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    all the space creatures of the space forest show up to aid the space indians and the human military just keeps shooting and everything dies

    shot after shot of beautiful alien corpses piling up

    then the evil military guy takes a long drag on a cigar and puts it out on the fairy girl from fern gully

    credits

    Dichotomy on
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Druhim wrote:
    well, part of the problem is that the hippie furries won

    SPEARS VERSUS GUNS

    THIS IS A FAITHFUL RECREATION OF THE SPANISH MEETING THE AZTECS

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    SA wrote:

    I seriously hate listening to him, but he understands film theory like nobody's business

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    Druhim wrote:
    well, part of the problem is that the hippie furries won

    SPEARS VERSUS GUNS

    THIS IS A FAITHFUL RECREATION OF THE SPANISH MEETING THE AZTECS

    space spanish vs space aztecs

    in space

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Dichotomy wrote:
    all the space creatures of the space forest show up to aid the space indians and the human military just keeps shooting and everything dies

    shot after shot of beautiful alien corpses piling up

    then the evil military guy takes a long drag on a cigar and puts it out on the fairy girl from fern gully

    credits

    This should be the way the last half hour of the movie plays out in the Director's Cut

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Naphtali wrote:
    Druhim wrote:
    well, part of the problem is that the hippie furries won

    SPEARS VERSUS GUNS

    THIS IS A FAITHFUL RECREATION OF THE SPANISH MEETING THE AZTECS

    space spanish vs space aztecs

    in space

    I wish it was space Aztecs.

    Instead it was space "what white people in the 70s thought all native americans were like"

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    MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    Dichotomy wrote:
    all the space creatures of the space forest show up to aid the space indians and the human military just keeps shooting and everything dies

    shot after shot of beautiful alien corpses piling up

    then the evil military guy takes a long drag on a cigar and puts it out on the fairy girl from fern gully

    credits

    that's Avatar 2

    because you know after four years (2 years back to Earth, 2 years to get a massive military force out there) Pandora would be fucked.

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