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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    how dare people care about fiction and inconsistencies

    only nerds care about things that arent real

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    yeah I can at least now safely not pay attention to the things you post

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Imagine a West Side Story MMO where one of the factions was the Sharks AND the Jets.

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    how dare people care about fiction and inconsistencies

    only nerds care about things that arent real

    well, yes

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    yeah I can at least now safely not pay attention to the things you post
    no it was actually just a shitty comparison anyway but w/e dude

    if y'all really won't play a game because "the plotholes!!!" then yous def dumb

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    ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    The plot holes are endemic of larger issues with the game

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    well I think the bigger problem is that the game seems to just be a generic MMO with no particular regard for the things people like about the series

    the big story inconsistencies are just a symptom of that

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    the game was just announced a few months ago

    you are assuming a lot

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    yeah I can at least now safely not pay attention to the things you post
    no it was actually just a shitty comparison anyway but w/e dude

    if y'all really won't play a game because "the plotholes!!!" then yous def dumb

    no it wasn't?

    A group of people who hate another group of people in a faction together.

    that is the exact comparison.

    In one scenario one group enslaves the other group for menial labor, in the other the two groups are constantly at war.

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    Zay wrote: »
    The plot holes are endemic of larger issues with the game

    didn't you actually like GW2

    I mean

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Zay wrote: »
    The plot holes are endemic of larger issues with the game

    didn't you actually like GW2

    I mean

    what would that have to do with anything? Some games you don't care about the plot, and started as games where you don't care about the plot.

    People have been invested in the plot/narrative of the Elder Scrolls games for years and years and years.

    This isn't a new ip.

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    ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    Zay wrote: »
    The plot holes are endemic of larger issues with the game

    didn't you actually like GW2

    I mean

    I

    What

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    ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    Are you trying to make a point or just saying things

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    MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    the game was just announced a few months ago

    you are assuming a lot

    We've known ABOUT it for years since they registered the trademark some time ago. We all knew it was coming.

    But as for plotholes, yeah.

    Another excellent example would be a WWII game where Russia, Germany, and the US are fighting against Britain, Japan, and Brazil.

    It's like... there's something very fundamentally wrong here.

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    GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    Zay wrote: »
    The plot holes are endemic of larger issues with the game

    didn't you actually like GW2

    I mean

    Don't you like ponies

    I mean

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    PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Gatsby wrote: »
    Zay wrote: »
    The plot holes are endemic of larger issues with the game

    didn't you actually like GW2

    I mean

    Don't you like ponies

    I mean

    Don't you like Dr. Who

    I mean

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    guys shut up

    let's talk about a West Side Story MMO

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    FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    Have we established if the Ebonheart faction are allies, or are some races subjugated within it? Because, you know, That's an obvious way for people who hate each other to end up 'in' a faction together.


    And then there's the Russian Communists/German Nazi's vs. Poland thing. This sort of thing does happen on occasion, you know?

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    yeah I can at least now safely not pay attention to the things you post
    no it was actually just a shitty comparison anyway but w/e dude

    if y'all really won't play a game because "the plotholes!!!" then yous def dumb

    no it wasn't?

    A group of people who hate another group of people in a faction together.

    that is the exact comparison.

    In one scenario one group enslaves the other group for menial labor, in the other the two groups are constantly at war.
    the sith and Jedi are not racial groups

    they are also intrinsically opposed because the force and Star Wars

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    MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    Fishman wrote: »
    Have we established if the Ebonheart faction are allies, or are some races subjugated within it? Because, you know, That's an obvious way for people who hate each other to end up 'in' a faction together.


    And then there's the Russian Communists/German Nazi's vs. Poland thing. This sort of thing does happen on occasion, you know?

    Doubful. The Nords at that point are starting their spinup to becoming the Third Empire, the Dunmer are kinda on their last legs before Tiber Septim forces them into the Armistice but the Tribunal are still around.

    Oh

    And there's that flu that wiped out basically the entire non-Argonian population of Black Marsh


    that too.

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    Gatsby wrote: »
    Zay wrote: »
    The plot holes are endemic of larger issues with the game

    didn't you actually like GW2

    I mean

    Don't you like ponies

    I mean
    lol this post

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    Pharezon wrote: »
    Gatsby wrote: »
    Zay wrote: »
    The plot holes are endemic of larger issues with the game

    didn't you actually like GW2

    I mean

    Don't you like ponies

    I mean

    Don't you like Dr. Who

    I mean

    pharezon this post...!

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    MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited November 2012
    Like I'm not even joking there is a race native to Black Marsh that was completely destroyed by that flu.

    There's a reason you can't play as a Kothringi in the Elder Scrolls games.



    because they're all dead of the Knahaten Flu.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    yeah I can at least now safely not pay attention to the things you post
    no it was actually just a shitty comparison anyway but w/e dude

    if y'all really won't play a game because "the plotholes!!!" then yous def dumb

    no it wasn't?

    A group of people who hate another group of people in a faction together.

    that is the exact comparison.

    In one scenario one group enslaves the other group for menial labor, in the other the two groups are constantly at war.
    the sith and Jedi are not racial groups

    they are also intrinsically opposed because the force and Star Wars

    Those races are opposed because of slavery

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Gatsby wrote: »
    Zay wrote: »
    The plot holes are endemic of larger issues with the game

    didn't you actually like GW2

    I mean

    Don't you like ponies

    I mean
    lol this post

    Holy shit, I'm having TFS flashbacks

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    that doesn't mean they can't be in a coalition together

    it also tells us nothing about what the relationships between the races are in this context (are they a part of it as slaves?)

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    RaekreuRaekreu Registered User regular
    guys shut up

    let's talk about a West Side Story MMO

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    MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited November 2012
    that doesn't mean they can't be in a coalition together

    it also tells us nothing about what the relationships between the races are in this context (are they a part of it as slaves?)


    You don't see the issue in putting three races that have constantly had wars and squabbles and the occasional genocide attempt in the same faction?

    Also how every non-Argonian in Black Marsh dying as a result of a super-disease could possibly prevent diplomacy?

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    that doesn't mean they can't be in a coalition together

    it also tells us nothing about what the relationships between the races are in this context (are they a part of it as slaves?)

    exciting feature: play as a slave in the saltrice plantations

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    not when they are up against the aldmeri dominion and the other faction

    I mean

    you literally have no information on the specifics of their alliance so

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    PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    edited November 2012
    Pharezon wrote: »
    Gatsby wrote: »
    Zay wrote: »
    The plot holes are endemic of larger issues with the game

    didn't you actually like GW2

    I mean

    Don't you like ponies

    I mean

    Don't you like Dr. Who

    I mean

    pharezon this post...!


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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
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    PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
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    MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited November 2012
    not when they are up against the aldmeri dominion and the other faction

    I mean

    you literally have no information on the specifics of their alliance so

    What specifics do we need to know here? I'm serious. Can you explain to me why ANY Argonian, anywhere, ever, would bother fighting in a war between non-Argonians when their entire province is off limits to any non-Argonian because they'll die a horrible horrible death?

    Or why any Dunmer or Nord would willingly fight side-by-side when their entire history is basically nothing but border disputes and massive wars?


    It's worth noting that the Dunmer and Argonians at this point are very isolationist. They don't NEED to worry about shit. The Dunmer have THREE LIVING GODS, and not a decade before in 2E572 Morrowind was invaded by Akavir, and Vivec's response was "No big. I'll just flood the entirety of Morrowind here I'll teach you guys how to breathe water."

    The Dunmer took no casualties.

    EDIT: Also, Argonian Super Flu. They's cool in Black Marsh.

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    PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Hist is eternal.

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    I don't need to explain it

    maybe you should wait for them to try to explain it before ejaculating all over the thread

    you're not even dich

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    The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    not when they are up against the aldmeri dominion and the other faction

    I mean

    you literally have no information on the specifics of their alliance so

    Maybe you're actually wrong

    Maybe there are no reasonable circumstances for this group to exist as it is due to everything in the game universe being predicated against it.

    Maybe that's is also why no-one is agreeing with you, and we have been trying to tell you for 2 pages

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    GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    Pharezon wrote: »
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    FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    that doesn't mean they can't be in a coalition together

    it also tells us nothing about what the relationships between the races are in this context (are they a part of it as slaves?)

    YEah it kind of does. Like

    I don't know if you're just not familiar with ethnic hatred but it's kind of a big deal and doesn't go away easily, when you see someone as borderline sub-sapient? Or vice versa? Dunmer and Argonians hate the shit out of each other and have for basically forever. If they thought they could pull off genocide on the other, they'd probably go for it.

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