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The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.
So Livestrong might now have a new meaning. (Armstrong busted)
Raijin Quickfoot
I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
Lance Armstrong has been officially banned from cycling for life and stripped of his 7 Tour De France wins. He chose to give up his right to appeal.
Pretty huge news. I was hoping he didn't dope and to find out he did is really disappointing.
I'm not sure how I feel overall yet, since I only just found out, but obviously it places a pretty big negative mark on my opinion of Lance Armstrong.
Pretty huge news. I was hoping he didn't dope and to find out he did is really disappointing.
I'm not sure how I feel overall yet, since I only just found out, but obviously it places a pretty big negative mark on my opinion of Lance Armstrong.
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Steam
I am sort of intrigued with the possibilities of human potential and drugs though.
doesnt say that he definitely took them, just that he gave up fighting so by default he loses his titles
I know that if I was clean I would fight it until the day I died.
If he was doping, methinkest he would have been caught during that period
it's kind of a shit deal for him
Steam
Not that I'm claiming he's innocent but, as Hullis said, he was tested constantly. These rumors have been around for years, and he never failed a test during all that time. He very well may have been using something during that time, but they were all over him for a long time and never caught him.
this just strikes me as a petty refusal of cycling higher-ups to admit that maybe they might be wrong about a guy that they're tried and tried to pin something on
I'm guessing his logic is that he knows he won clean and he doesn't need anyone else's approval
Steam
Stretch Armstrong will always be a hero to me.
i know his team mate floyd landis said he saw him doping, but that is it, right?
Choosing to give up fighting the charges is basically the same as legally admitting guilt apparently.
He's also banned for life from the sport.
Steam
Can't lose if you don't play the game.
Not going to blame him for giving up on fighting. Only so long you can protest your innocence before you just want to stab someone.
Why I fear the ocean.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
The cynical part of me thinks this is the best way to go about getting found out for cheating
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better
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Dang iiiiiiiiiiit.
What the hell, Lance? What the hell?
If they haven't found a single tainted sample out of how many hundreds of samples he's given them over the years, either their lab is crap (doubtful), he switched samples (don't they watch them pee? in a sport rife with cheating, i would fucking hope so), or he's clean and they are just on a witch hunt (my opinion).
I think he just finally gave up, he's been fighting Doping charges from every Tom, Dick, and Harry over the years. Amusingly a large number of the cyclists that come out with claims that Armstrong was Doping tend to do so a few years after they're caught for Doping, or it's a reporter coming forward with 'shocking evidence' with no actual documented proof. I think after a good 13-14 years of dealing with this crap he just doesn't care anymore.
Not saying he definitely did it. But the fact that he gave up is at least questionable, plus that is a lot of tests and evidence.
Steam
yeah, the problem with doping is that there isn't a giveaway artificial molecule running through your bloodscream screaming CHEAT CHEATER CHEAAT
doping changes levels of pre-existing hormones and etc already in your bloodstream which could theoretically be naturally occurring in a person with weird biology
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
that's an interesting aspect. maybe armstrong just has a lot of testerone and whatever else, which is why he was so much better than everyone
he also had cancer and cancer meds, which of course makes any bloodwork a nightmare
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
So they have nothing from the years where he won the tour but something from when he placed third
they still have all the samples from his winning years (so that they can continue to test them with new methods)
this feels
like a reach
yeah, i'm not gonna fuck with a dude who managed to win 7 tours plus survive widespread cancer.