The problem with the current monster is that it's easier for the mafia to coordinate around it than for the village. The mafia just needs to make sure that one of their people isn't in second place (easier to do with vote manipulation, if they got either of those rings) or are knights and it's basically an extra attack for them.
Let's not forget that part.
Speaking of, though you have no special reason to trust me, if anyone wants to share some info regarding bard or knight's specifics, I can probably trade some information on other classes in return.
Just like all the previous games. Because these higher level classes are destroying my time (especially when I take 18+ credits).
Now, though, I am in the middle of a 9 credit ([434]Networks, [340]Advanced Languages, and [301]Entrepreneurship for Engineers) summer semester. I'm in the library right now, which is when I usually get most of my posting in, but I am ridiculously busy right now.
I'm trying to contribute. And I agree with giving the monster one more day, lets just see how it shakes out.
And Jpants because I'm riding that horse till its right or someone has a better target.
The problem with the current monster is that it's easier for the mafia to coordinate around it than for the village. The mafia just needs to make sure that one of their people isn't in second place (easier to do with vote manipulation, if they got either of those rings) and it's basically an extra attack for them.
I think these are good points. Sure the mafia gets there chunk of the change but it forces them to have be more competitive with their bids in the event that they have revenue generation independent of monster slaying.
We also now have vote manip in play, so it might be easier for the mafia to corral an unfortunate villager in second place.
Ronrab, is this your first phalla? Cuz if so, you gotta speak up! And if not, then you REALLY gotta speak up!
Search function; Ronrab's been around. Baidol's another old phalla hand, I believe, and they're awful quiet, but that does seem to be the policy with those guys.
The problem with the current monster is that it's easier for the mafia to coordinate around it than for the village. The mafia just needs to make sure that one of their people isn't in second place (easier to do with vote manipulation, if they got either of those rings) and it's basically an extra attack for them.
Actually, I'd sort of rather they have to make sure one of their people isn't in second and coordinate. It isn't the cleanest vote record, but it would require them to put their fingerprints on something. Once we get a red dead or two, it would give us some more information.
That said, I would love to be assured that there won't just be more and more monsters showing up while we let this one live. How did it work in the first game? Is it a possibility we could get overwhelmed by them?
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BAD MANS HAD POWERS TO MAKE MONSTERS IGNORE THEM LAST BATTLE.
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so I feel like I'm missing out on some critical info, not having played the first one of these.
what was up with it?
My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
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BAD MAN FLAWLESS VICTORY THROUGH BRIBING ONE MERCHANT AND THE VILLAGE ONLY HARMING 1 BAD MAN IN BATTLE 1 TIME.
ALSO, MANA POTS. BUY THE MANA POTS. DENY ESSENTIALLY 1 SHOT KILLS BY BOOKY MANS LATER WHEN BOOKY MANS GET THERE STAVES.
(note: Wizards were super powerful for the mafia because we could pool equipment and gold and probably won't be quite as powerful in the hands of a villager because their ability was dependant upon mana pots. I'm not sure if ZH took this into account or not when rebalancing for this game.)
not too bad, keep not being around at all around vote close, missed it last night playing SC2 and will likely miss it tonight with frisbee. I also can't remember if I was in the first one of these and just died early or am remembering a similar phalla.
Afternoon, all. Do we have any new information to go on?
I can has cheezburger, yes?
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I mean, in all seriousness, I just want people to help kill the damn slime and am perfectly content to let Obi's phalla prowess be blunted by his classwork. INANTP is the other member of the slime-lover bloc.
J4, we do really need to know whether there are any class abilities that could account for Invictus' claim that his ability was redirected.
E: Also I am about to go to bed and will probably not wake up before vote close tonight.
So assume we don't kill this monster - won't we just get overrun as more monsters show up? Eventual this will lead to a host victory after both the village and the mafia are annihilated in a wave of slimes, oozes, goblins, ogres, and trolls. Unless the rules say specifically there is only one monster on the board ever this actually is pretty stupid. I can't check myself right now, but can someone check the OP for that data?
Yeah, the trouble is no is sure what class they are going to be yet. They aren't sure if they need a +1 longsword or a staff of the fireballs.
So, I don't like Mikey CTS' post history (NOTE: This is not in order, and I stopped about halfway through page 5). Now, full disclosure, I decided to dig because he voted for me. I'm petty. But what I see feels off to me. I didn't look up Mikey's phalla post history so I can't say "oh this is opposite of how he plays every day" but he seems suspiciously exciteable and casual.
For starters he's really eager to push the idea that YO! YO! I'M A WIZARD!, very happy to do that. At the same time he's saying "Oh the mafia will probably kill me, being a wizard and all, because wizards are useful." which seems...odd? If you're actually worried about your health, why would you do that?
Now apparently some people felt that this was also suspicious, because he later claims to have taken damage last night. If he's scared of mafia hitting him, why is he also drawing attention to the fact that he's injured?
I find Mikey CTS' behaviour illogical and suspect him to be lying. While he may be a villager trying to do a LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME SHAKIN' MY BUTT AT THE MAFIA, such an act looks identical to mafia going LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME I'M A VILLAGER THINK ONLY OF ME AND VILLAGE IN YOUR GED EQUIVALENCY COMPARISON TESTS.
Also I'd like to point out that the OP says literally nothing about monster spawn rate and there is just as much reason to assume they don't continue spawning as they do.
Wow. I think that's the longest post I've seen INANTP make in, like, ever. And that's notwithstanding the quotes.
I'm not 100% sold, but I definitely don't like this camp looking to punish someone for proposing a radical idea and encouraging public discussion.
There's a good chance Langly is getting eaten by the Monster with Two "I"s if he doesn't vote soon. Just to be on the safe side, it's best to have an active person in second in case Inactivus eats before the monster strikes. Until that knot at the top gets sorted out, having an inactive second place puts a lot of probable villagers in the monster's path.
Mikey CTS
Also, I want to remind people that the forums have been going wonky close to vote close, so it might not be a terrible idea to get in a vote you care about sooner rather than later.
Also I'd like to point out that the OP says literally nothing about monster spawn rate and there is just as much reason to assume they don't continue spawning as they do.
The important thing is not so much to guess correctly as to take the action which has the best results regardless of whether or not your guess is correct. If monsters spawn on top of monsters, then attacking is clearly superior and not attacking is very dangerous. If we'll only face one monster at a time, then it's up for debate. My assumption then is that we should attack the monster to avoid a worst-case scenario.
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Let's not forget that part.
Speaking of, though you have no special reason to trust me, if anyone wants to share some info regarding bard or knight's specifics, I can probably trade some information on other classes in return.
Death count will always reveal the true alignment of the deceased.
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Ronrab, is this your first phalla? Cuz if so, you gotta speak up! And if not, then you REALLY gotta speak up!
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Now I return to my wizard cave to complete my karate training. Hi-ya!
I am.
Just like all the previous games. Because these higher level classes are destroying my time (especially when I take 18+ credits).
Now, though, I am in the middle of a 9 credit ([434]Networks, [340]Advanced Languages, and [301]Entrepreneurship for Engineers) summer semester. I'm in the library right now, which is when I usually get most of my posting in, but I am ridiculously busy right now.
I'm trying to contribute. And I agree with giving the monster one more day, lets just see how it shakes out.
And Jpants because I'm riding that horse till its right or someone has a better target.
I think these are good points. Sure the mafia gets there chunk of the change but it forces them to have be more competitive with their bids in the event that they have revenue generation independent of monster slaying.
We also now have vote manip in play, so it might be easier for the mafia to corral an unfortunate villager in second place.
I think we should kill the ooze.
battletag: Millin#1360
Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
Search function; Ronrab's been around. Baidol's another old phalla hand, I believe, and they're awful quiet, but that does seem to be the policy with those guys.
really Bedlam?
really?
Eh, whatever.
I got some healing over here, if you got smacked last night, let me know!
Jpants
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Actually, I'd sort of rather they have to make sure one of their people isn't in second and coordinate. It isn't the cleanest vote record, but it would require them to put their fingerprints on something. Once we get a red dead or two, it would give us some more information.
That said, I would love to be assured that there won't just be more and more monsters showing up while we let this one live. How did it work in the first game? Is it a possibility we could get overwhelmed by them?
BAD MANS PROLLY NO CARE ABOUT MONSTER SMASHING.
POST OR DIE, BAIDOL .
What's that you say? Tell me more! Well if you insist!
My amazing, utterly unique Potion of Growth provides you with a permanent, yes PERMANENT increase in survivability. If such things could be reduced to mere numbers, I'd imagine this would increase your health by a solid 3. Three whole healths! Imagine that! Are you tanky? Be tankier! Are you squishy? Be less so! This miracle potion truly solves all your ills, even those you haven't yet suffered! So call today, adjutants are standing by!
what was up with it?
ALSO, MANA POTS. BUY THE MANA POTS. DENY ESSENTIALLY 1 SHOT KILLS BY BOOKY MANS LATER WHEN BOOKY MANS GET THERE STAVES.
(note: Wizards were super powerful for the mafia because we could pool equipment and gold and probably won't be quite as powerful in the hands of a villager because their ability was dependant upon mana pots. I'm not sure if ZH took this into account or not when rebalancing for this game.)
Come back to us, Baidol. Give us your wisdom.
INANTP 2
JPants 2
Langly 2
Cythraul 1
Lonely Ahava 1
Mill 1
ObiFett 1
Ronrab 1
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Ha-haa! You didn't expect that, did you?!
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I can has cheezburger, yes?
J4, we do really need to know whether there are any class abilities that could account for Invictus' claim that his ability was redirected.
E: Also I am about to go to bed and will probably not wake up before vote close tonight.
Also Langly is a wasted vote if he dosent vote tonight.
Also also getting stuck on a computer that isnt widecreen is terrible.
JPants.
INANTP 3
JPants 3
Langly 2
Cythraul 1
Mill 1
ObiFett 1
Ronrab 1
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So, I don't like Mikey CTS' post history (NOTE: This is not in order, and I stopped about halfway through page 5). Now, full disclosure, I decided to dig because he voted for me. I'm petty. But what I see feels off to me. I didn't look up Mikey's phalla post history so I can't say "oh this is opposite of how he plays every day" but he seems suspiciously exciteable and casual.
For starters he's really eager to push the idea that YO! YO! I'M A WIZARD!, very happy to do that. At the same time he's saying "Oh the mafia will probably kill me, being a wizard and all, because wizards are useful." which seems...odd? If you're actually worried about your health, why would you do that?
Now apparently some people felt that this was also suspicious, because he later claims to have taken damage last night. If he's scared of mafia hitting him, why is he also drawing attention to the fact that he's injured?
I find Mikey CTS' behaviour illogical and suspect him to be lying. While he may be a villager trying to do a LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME SHAKIN' MY BUTT AT THE MAFIA, such an act looks identical to mafia going LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME I'M A VILLAGER THINK ONLY OF ME AND VILLAGE IN YOUR GED EQUIVALENCY COMPARISON TESTS.
I'm not 100% sold, but I definitely don't like this camp looking to punish someone for proposing a radical idea and encouraging public discussion.
There's a good chance Langly is getting eaten by the Monster with Two "I"s if he doesn't vote soon. Just to be on the safe side, it's best to have an active person in second in case Inactivus eats before the monster strikes. Until that knot at the top gets sorted out, having an inactive second place puts a lot of probable villagers in the monster's path.
Mikey CTS
Also, I want to remind people that the forums have been going wonky close to vote close, so it might not be a terrible idea to get in a vote you care about sooner rather than later.
The important thing is not so much to guess correctly as to take the action which has the best results regardless of whether or not your guess is correct. If monsters spawn on top of monsters, then attacking is clearly superior and not attacking is very dangerous. If we'll only face one monster at a time, then it's up for debate. My assumption then is that we should attack the monster to avoid a worst-case scenario.