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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    In Japan, ESC is the common "quit immediately to desktop button."

    So this is less a console/PC culture clash, and more a Western/Eastern culture clash.

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    In Japan, ESC is the common "quit immediately to desktop button."

    So this is less a console/PC culture clash, and more a Western/Eastern culture clash.

    But why would that be a button you want? I want to take that function and rebind it to absolutely nothing.

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  • heenatoheenato Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Jragghen wrote: »
    In Japan, ESC is the common "quit immediately to desktop button."

    So this is less a console/PC culture clash, and more a Western/Eastern culture clash.
    Which makes this a worse port than Dark souls. or Deadly premonition. Which DOESN'T DO THAT.

    You've got a fucking problem with your port if it is WORSE THAN DEADLY PREMONITION'S
    jclast wrote: »
    Jragghen wrote: »
    In Japan, ESC is the common "quit immediately to desktop button."

    So this is less a console/PC culture clash, and more a Western/Eastern culture clash.

    But why would that be a button you want? I want to take that function and rebind it to absolutely nothing.
    They need an abort button for when someone walks in on them fucking an anime girl in their game.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    jclast wrote: »
    Jragghen wrote: »
    In Japan, ESC is the common "quit immediately to desktop button."

    So this is less a console/PC culture clash, and more a Western/Eastern culture clash.

    But why would that be a button you want? I want to take that function and rebind it to absolutely nothing.

    Something something the sort of PC games you get in Japan.
    :winky:

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    Goddamnit Japan, get your shit together.

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  • SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    Boot Hill Heroes is up for sale on Steam. I'm hoping it's good because I backed it on kickstarter. It's a wild west themed retro RPG.

    The daily is FRACT OSC, which I have heard is good, and have also heard it's best to go into it with as little knowledge as possible.

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Most PC games I've played have the in-game menu as tab and the options menu as escape. So when I want to look in my inventory or pick some spells I hit tab. If I want to change graphic settings I hit escape.

    It has become ingrained now.

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  • KalnaurKalnaur I See Summer Heat Waves . . . Olympia, WARegistered User regular
    jclast wrote: »
    What is actual pause in FF13? Tab?

    Seriously. I can't think of another key that I should be able to press to bring up the menu. It's always escape. Did they do a dumb thing and make it enter like you're hitting start on a controller?

    I actually would have expected enter . . .
    heenato wrote: »
    They need an abort button for when someone walks in on them fucking an anime girl in their game.

    Yep.

    I mean, I have no idea what you're talking about . . .

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  • DaringDirkDaringDirk Father of Nearly Two! Oakland, CARegistered User regular
    heenato wrote: »
    Jragghen wrote: »
    In Japan, ESC is the common "quit immediately to desktop button."

    So this is less a console/PC culture clash, and more a Western/Eastern culture clash.
    Which makes this a worse port than Dark souls. or Deadly premonition. Which DOESN'T DO THAT.

    You've got a fucking problem with your port if it is WORSE THAN DEADLY PREMONITION'S
    jclast wrote: »
    Jragghen wrote: »
    In Japan, ESC is the common "quit immediately to desktop button."

    So this is less a console/PC culture clash, and more a Western/Eastern culture clash.

    But why would that be a button you want? I want to take that function and rebind it to absolutely nothing.
    They need an abort button for when someone walks in on them fucking an anime girl in their game.

    Because, yeah, I always look at my desktop with my pants down. I mean, just look at how those icons are organized. It's a thing of fucking beauty, and needs to be treated as such.

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Jazz wrote: »
    CroakerBC wrote: »
    Jazz wrote: »
    CroakerBC wrote: »
    Jazz wrote: »
    I'm rewatching Aliens. SE, of course. For all the "action movie" talk, it is worth bearing in mind that, at an hour and seven minutes in, we have not yet seen an alien. (Besides a facehugger in a jar.) That's actually longer than Alien goes before showing you the xeno, although of course Aliens is a significantly longer film.

    But, ye Gods and little fishies, it's still so good. Tense as hell.

    Also, Apone is awesome.
    "We've got tactical smart missiles. Phased plasma pulse rifles. We've got knives, sharp sticks..."

    Sadly it took me ten years to get @mrs croaker‌ to watch Aliens, so it's going to be a while before we see it again. Alien on the other hand, is moving rapidly up my viewing queue.
    That was Hudson. Who is also awesome for different reasons. "Me and my squad of ultimate badasses will protect you!"

    Oh I know, I was just going with it.
    Apone wins for "Look into my eye"

    Now I want an Aliens game too. Not AvP mark you, which is a good game, but a unique property. Is that too much to ask?
    "Stow that shit, Hudson!"

    Yeah, it's sad there hasn't been an Aliens game for years and years.

    Right?

    Hey Vasquez, you ever been mistaken for a man?

    No...have you?

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    I just... by the time you're playing a porn game you either need to a.) secure that room or b.) you're okay with it. There's no way somebody is walking in on you and you're hitting the escape key to casually be like "Spreadsheets, right? That's why I'm pantsless right now. Excel is just, whoo, you know? God it's hot in here. Are you hot? I'm hot." and have everything be okay.

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  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie Future world ruler Registered User regular
    SteevL wrote: »
    Boot Hill Heroes is up for sale on Steam. I'm hoping it's good because I backed it on kickstarter. It's a wild west themed retro RPG.

    Is... is this based on the Boot Hill western RPG from the 70s that Gary Gygax (et al.) made? Because if so... /squeeeee



  • DirtyboyDirtyboy Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    I guess the escape straight to desktop is quicker than most games nowadays where you open menu, select quit, game asks ARE YOU SURE?, say yes, puts you at start menu, select exit to desktop, asks again ARE YOU SURE?, select yes, hope game actually closes (some games like to add an extra step by adding a PUSH BUTTON TO CONTINUE at start screen).

    Of course you could just tab out and force close it, but who has time for that? :P

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  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie Future world ruler Registered User regular
    Dirtyboy wrote: »
    I guess the escape straight to desktop is quicker than most games nowadays where you open menu, select quit, game asks ARE YOU SURE?, say yes, puts you at start menu, select exit to desktop, asks again ARE YOU SURE?, select yes, hope game actually closes.

    Of course you could just tab out and force close it, but who has time for that? :P

    ALT-F4

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  • DaringDirkDaringDirk Father of Nearly Two! Oakland, CARegistered User regular
    jclast wrote: »
    I just... by the time you're playing a porn game you either need to a.) secure that room or b.) you're okay with it. There's no way somebody is walking in on you and you're hitting the escape key to casually be like "Spreadsheets, right? That's why I'm pantsless right now. Excel is just, whoo, you know? God it's hot in here. Are you hot? I'm hot." and have everything be okay.

    That's why I leave this up before starting one of those games/videos:

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    "What, this? Oh, I was just practicing. This stuff's so COMPLICATED!"

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    If it's legitimately important to close a thing right the hell now that's what alt+F4 is for. Single key presses should not kill programs without user confirmation.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat we gon' rock up it Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    jclast wrote: »
    What is actual pause in FF13? Tab?

    Seriously. I can't think of another key that I should be able to press to bring up the menu. It's always escape. Did they do a dumb thing and make it enter like you're hitting start on a controller?

    I actually would have expected enter . . .

    Why? Your hands are nowhere near the enter key in any modern PC control setup. Escape is at a nice spot where it's not close enough to WASD to accidentally hit it but it's just a short jaunt away if you need to pause quickly (like if your phone is ringing or the cat just broke something or whatever).

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    jclast wrote: »
    What is actual pause in FF13? Tab?

    Seriously. I can't think of another key that I should be able to press to bring up the menu. It's always escape. Did they do a dumb thing and make it enter like you're hitting start on a controller?

    I actually would have expected enter . . .

    Why? Your hands are nowhere near the enter key in any modern PC control setup. Escape is at a nice spot where it's not close enough to WASD to accidentally hit it but it's just a short jaunt away if you need to pause quickly (like if your phone is ringing or the cat just broke something or whatever).

    Specifically for console ports, and based on button labels, Enter is the best analog for Start (which should have been relabled "menu" years ago).

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    A western themed RPG inspired by Earthbound.

    Been waiting to hear more on this one for awhile. PLEASE GOD LET IT BE GOOD.

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    jclast wrote: »
    I just... by the time you're playing a porn game you either need to a.) secure that room or b.) you're okay with it. There's no way somebody is walking in on you and you're hitting the escape key to casually be like "Spreadsheets, right? That's why I'm pantsless right now. Excel is just, whoo, you know? God it's hot in here. Are you hot? I'm hot." and have everything be okay.

    Let me tell you about TPS reports.

    hmm, them TPS reports.

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  • KalnaurKalnaur I See Summer Heat Waves . . . Olympia, WARegistered User regular
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    jclast wrote: »
    What is actual pause in FF13? Tab?

    Seriously. I can't think of another key that I should be able to press to bring up the menu. It's always escape. Did they do a dumb thing and make it enter like you're hitting start on a controller?

    I actually would have expected enter . . .

    Why? Your hands are nowhere near the enter key in any modern PC control setup. Escape is at a nice spot where it's not close enough to WASD to accidentally hit it but it's just a short jaunt away if you need to pause quickly (like if your phone is ringing or the cat just broke something or whatever).

    Left-hander. My movement is usually with the arrow keys not WASD, if I am using a keyboard at all as I am using my left hand to control the mouse.

    I prefer to use a controller, even if that means using a game profiler program. But if the game is something mouse-based, like a 4X game, I usually use the on-screen options menu button instead of a keyboard one. The keyboard is usually used for typing and not much else.

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  • JazzJazz UKRegistered User regular
    jclast wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    jclast wrote: »
    What is actual pause in FF13? Tab?

    Seriously. I can't think of another key that I should be able to press to bring up the menu. It's always escape. Did they do a dumb thing and make it enter like you're hitting start on a controller?

    I actually would have expected enter . . .

    Why? Your hands are nowhere near the enter key in any modern PC control setup. Escape is at a nice spot where it's not close enough to WASD to accidentally hit it but it's just a short jaunt away if you need to pause quickly (like if your phone is ringing or the cat just broke something or whatever).

    Specifically for console ports, and based on button labels, Enter is the best analog for Start (which should have been relabled "menu" years ago).

    I give the Sega Master System props for getting this right nearly 30 fucking years ago by labelling the button Pause.

    Of course, it put it on the console, not the controller, but meh, details.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Dirtyboy wrote: »
    I guess the escape straight to desktop is quicker than most games nowadays where you open menu, select quit, game asks ARE YOU SURE?, say yes, puts you at start menu, select exit to desktop, asks again ARE YOU SURE?, select yes, hope game actually closes (some games like to add an extra step by adding a PUSH BUTTON TO CONTINUE at start screen).

    Of course you could just tab out and force close it, but who has time for that? :P

    That's like three button presses

    if i'm doing that much work i may as well clean

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  • KalnaurKalnaur I See Summer Heat Waves . . . Olympia, WARegistered User regular
    jclast wrote: »
    I just... by the time you're playing a porn game you either need to a.) secure that room or b.) you're okay with it. There's no way somebody is walking in on you and you're hitting the escape key to casually be like "Spreadsheets, right? That's why I'm pantsless right now. Excel is just, whoo, you know? God it's hot in here. Are you hot? I'm hot." and have everything be okay.

    From a purely theoretical perspective, if you don't know how to play a porn game with pants on, I'm not sure you're doing it right. Probably fully undone in the front, but still pants on.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat we gon' rock up it Registered User regular
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    jclast wrote: »
    What is actual pause in FF13? Tab?

    Seriously. I can't think of another key that I should be able to press to bring up the menu. It's always escape. Did they do a dumb thing and make it enter like you're hitting start on a controller?

    I actually would have expected enter . . .

    Why? Your hands are nowhere near the enter key in any modern PC control setup. Escape is at a nice spot where it's not close enough to WASD to accidentally hit it but it's just a short jaunt away if you need to pause quickly (like if your phone is ringing or the cat just broke something or whatever).

    Left-hander. My movement is usually with the arrow keys not WASD, if I am using a keyboard at all as I am using my left hand to control the mouse.

    I prefer to use a controller, even if that means using a game profiler program. But if the game is something mouse-based, like a 4X game, I usually use the on-screen options menu button instead of a keyboard one. The keyboard is usually used for typing and not much else.

    Ah, yeah, make sense if you're a lefty. I do find it a bit strange that you prefer controller, since I quite enjoyed the jump to the keyboard and mouse when I switched to PC gaming about a year ago, but that's just a personal preference thing. Dual sticks just feel so clumsy to me when compared to the mouse.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    I'm left-handed and I use the mouse in my right and WASD. Though I'm starting to swap to ESDF for more keybinding options.

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  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie Future world ruler Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    I'm left-handed and I use the mouse in my right and WASD. Though I'm starting to swap to ESDF for more keybinding options.

    I'm an ESDF left-hander too.

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  • JazzJazz UKRegistered User regular
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    jclast wrote: »
    What is actual pause in FF13? Tab?

    Seriously. I can't think of another key that I should be able to press to bring up the menu. It's always escape. Did they do a dumb thing and make it enter like you're hitting start on a controller?

    I actually would have expected enter . . .

    Why? Your hands are nowhere near the enter key in any modern PC control setup. Escape is at a nice spot where it's not close enough to WASD to accidentally hit it but it's just a short jaunt away if you need to pause quickly (like if your phone is ringing or the cat just broke something or whatever).

    Left-hander. My movement is usually with the arrow keys not WASD, if I am using a keyboard at all as I am using my left hand to control the mouse.

    I prefer to use a controller, even if that means using a game profiler program. But if the game is something mouse-based, like a 4X game, I usually use the on-screen options menu button instead of a keyboard one. The keyboard is usually used for typing and not much else.

    Ah, yeah, make sense if you're a lefty. I do find it a bit strange that you prefer controller, since I quite enjoyed the jump to the keyboard and mouse when I switched to PC gaming about a year ago, but that's just a personal preference thing. Dual sticks just feel so clumsy to me when compared to the mouse.

    I totally understand that, but the left stick feels so much more elegant to me than WASD or any equivalent.

    Kalnaur
  • KalnaurKalnaur I See Summer Heat Waves . . . Olympia, WARegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    jclast wrote: »
    What is actual pause in FF13? Tab?

    Seriously. I can't think of another key that I should be able to press to bring up the menu. It's always escape. Did they do a dumb thing and make it enter like you're hitting start on a controller?

    I actually would have expected enter . . .

    Why? Your hands are nowhere near the enter key in any modern PC control setup. Escape is at a nice spot where it's not close enough to WASD to accidentally hit it but it's just a short jaunt away if you need to pause quickly (like if your phone is ringing or the cat just broke something or whatever).

    Left-hander. My movement is usually with the arrow keys not WASD, if I am using a keyboard at all as I am using my left hand to control the mouse.

    I prefer to use a controller, even if that means using a game profiler program. But if the game is something mouse-based, like a 4X game, I usually use the on-screen options menu button instead of a keyboard one. The keyboard is usually used for typing and not much else.

    Ah, yeah, make sense if you're a lefty. I do find it a bit strange that you prefer controller, since I quite enjoyed the jump to the keyboard and mouse when I switched to PC gaming about a year ago, but that's just a personal preference thing. Dual sticks just feel so clumsy to me when compared to the mouse.

    Well, to be fair, as I mentioned before 95-97% of my gaming since the Atari 2600 has been console based. So always an abstract controller of some kind. Thus the Mouse makes more sense to me than the keyboard.

    Hell, the Wii controller with Nunchuck feels more intuitive to me than KBAM, and that shit is honestly esoteric in most simple platform games . . .

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Been busy working, someone sum up the last 20 pages?

  • KalnaurKalnaur I See Summer Heat Waves . . . Olympia, WARegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    I'm left-handed and I use the mouse in my right and WASD. Though I'm starting to swap to ESDF for more keybinding options.

    I was encouraged in my handedness from a very young age; lefty scissors and the whole shebang. So I've never really had to force myself out of using my left hand. Thus, I am so hardwired left that I have 0% or less accuracy using a mouse in my right hand. ;)

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  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    Been busy working, someone sum up the last 20 pages?

    Luch: Why do I take my pants off when I get into the cryo sleep?

    Thread: why do you even wear pants?

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  • IoloIolo iolo Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Been busy working, someone sum up the last 20 pages?

    Gifting, Gifting, Nobody, Gifting, Gifting, Unfortunate Pants Detour (TM), Controller Preferences

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  • JazzJazz UKRegistered User regular
    Been busy working, someone sum up the last 20 pages?

    Nobody, Alien and NOPE, why Esc being bound to "immediately quit to desktop" is a crime against humanity, and obligatory giftbombing.

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  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    Unfortunate pants detour would make a great band name

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  • JazzJazz UKRegistered User regular
    You left-handers who do mouse with your left hand: do you prefer a left-handed mouse, or an ambidextrous one? Or even a right-handed one although that would seem weird? And do you switch the buttons?

    Just curious.

  • PoseidonPoseidon Aqua regis Registered User regular
    Escape for instaquit is like: I have a phonecall, esc ... ffffu - 2 hours of progress lost. Whoever makes ports like this clearly never played on a pc before.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    I'm left-handed and I use the mouse in my right and WASD. Though I'm starting to swap to ESDF for more keybinding options.

    I was encouraged in my handedness from a very young age; lefty scissors and the whole shebang. So I've never really had to force myself out of using my left hand. Thus, I am so hardwired left that I have 0% or less accuracy using a mouse in my right hand. ;)

    I was left to do what I wanted as well. It just turned out that for some things I preferred my dominant hand, like throwing or any kind of fine control, and other things I preferred my right, such as using a mouse. Mostly using a mouse.

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