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Taking [Chat] to the [Chat]less Until Death: Judge Minty

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    Last place I worked with duress codes had separate duress codes for the alarm and the safe

    Either code would trigger the silent alarm (which was the only alarm) and disable the safe, which was on a time lock anyway, so it would do its usual half hour countdown as if preparing to open but never actually open.

    In theory, of course, by the time it becomes obvious that the safe isn't opening, help has arrived.

  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    Like if I wanted to do a duress code and not get my people killed, I would just tell them to hold the door open for like 45 seconds. That would trigger a door held alarm and not lead to the shooting bits.
    I would be suspicious of anyone just holding open the door for 45 seconds, just chilling, not going inside or anything.

    Still easier to explain then why the doors aren't opening at all.

    zepherin
  • MimMim Okay ladies, now let's get in formation. Registered User regular
    Don't gossip, get everything in writing when possible (not only to CYA, but also to avoid misunderstandings)

    Congratulations you're ready for almost any office job.

    so contracts or disagreements or insults in writing? Anything else in writing?

  • AtomikaAtomika Deconstructionista Registered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    Don't gossip, get everything in writing when possible (not only to CYA, but also to avoid misunderstandings)

    Congratulations you're ready for almost any office job.

    so contracts or disagreements or insults in writing? Anything else in writing?

    Job descriptions.

    Wage agreements.

    Time-off protocols.

  • RichyRichy http://torchlightmedia.netRegistered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    Don't gossip, get everything in writing when possible (not only to CYA, but also to avoid misunderstandings)

    Congratulations you're ready for almost any office job.

    so contracts or disagreements or insults in writing? Anything else in writing?

    Everything in writing. Paperwork covers your butt whenever the blame-game starts when something goes wrong.

    sig.gif
  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited September 2014
    Deebaser wrote: »
    I wish I could talk to my mom about things going on in my life without her losing her shit

    sometimes I need to talk about important highly stressful decisions and have literally no outlet

    *points to [chat]'s 21st Century Pre-Memorial Venting Couch*
    have a seat, bro.

    okay here goes

    my lease was going to run out Oct 1, I wasn't going to sign it because I'm unemployed, I have a few grand in the bank but who knows how long that will last so I was just going to move in with my mom once the landlord got tired of us being month to month

    but my roomate got told my the state they were going to pay all but $200/month of his rent since he's disabled, he told them I lived here too and they're like, oh np

    so anyway I sign the new lease, and he sends it to the state

    turns out that they actually do care that there are two tenantsand he doesn't qualify if someone else is on the lease, they don't care if someone lives with him, but he needs to be the sole tenant on the lease

    can't get landlord to change the lease to have just him on it, landlord thinks it would be committing fraud, landlord won't change it, thinks we're trying to use him to scam the state, landlord won't let us break lease entirely and move out

    override367 on
    Dark Raven XDeebaser
  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck (♡°◡°) Registered User regular
    you'll do just fine mim, don't let these suspicious olds get you all worked up

    Dark Raven XzepherinVariable
  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    japan wrote: »
    Last place I worked with duress codes had separate duress codes for the alarm and the safe

    Either code would trigger the silent alarm (which was the only alarm) and disable the safe, which was on a time lock anyway, so it would do its usual half hour countdown as if preparing to open but never actually open.

    In theory, of course, by the time it becomes obvious that the safe isn't opening, help has arrived.

    disables the safe?
    Fuck that.
    If the duress code doesn't also open the safe before people get nervous, I wouldn't use it. If that makes me an accomplace, Im switching sides and telling them everything. #YOLOSWAG2014, don't take those bags, guys, they have the dye packs in!

    YOLO. Swag. Whatever. Fuck it. Lets do this.
  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    Richy wrote: »
    Mim wrote: »
    Don't gossip, get everything in writing when possible (not only to CYA, but also to avoid misunderstandings)

    Congratulations you're ready for almost any office job.

    so contracts or disagreements or insults in writing? Anything else in writing?

    Everything in writing. Paperwork covers your butt whenever the blame-game starts when something goes wrong.

    Its because its impossible to lie when you write it down

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    QEDMF xbl: PantsB G+
  • MimMim Okay ladies, now let's get in formation. Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    Mim wrote: »
    Don't gossip, get everything in writing when possible (not only to CYA, but also to avoid misunderstandings)

    Congratulations you're ready for almost any office job.

    so contracts or disagreements or insults in writing? Anything else in writing?

    Job descriptions.

    Wage agreements.

    Time-off protocols.

    oh, well i saved the offer letter and i posted the job description here so i'll just save a copy on my hard drive~

    Atomika
  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Deebaser wrote: »
    I wish I could talk to my mom about things going on in my life without her losing her shit

    sometimes I need to talk about important highly stressful decisions and have literally no outlet

    *points to [chat]'s 21st Century Pre-Memorial Venting Couch*
    have a seat, bro.

    okay here goes

    my lease was going to run out Oct 1, I wasn't going to sign it because I'm unemployed, I have a few grand in the bank but who knows how long that will last so I was just going to move in with my mom once the landlord got tired of us being month to month

    but my roomate got told my the state they were going to pay all but $200/month of his rent since he's disabled, he told them I lived here too and they're like, oh np

    so anyway I sign the new lease, and he sends it to the state

    turns out that they actually do care that there are two tenantsand he doesn't qualify if someone else is on the lease, they don't care if someone lives with him, but he needs to be the sole tenant on the lease

    can't get landlord to change the lease to have just him on it, landlord thinks it would be committing fraud, landlord won't change it, thinks we're trying to use him to scam the state, landlord won't let us break lease entirely and move out

    motherfucker. can you sublet?

    YOLO. Swag. Whatever. Fuck it. Lets do this.
  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    Deebaser wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Last place I worked with duress codes had separate duress codes for the alarm and the safe

    Either code would trigger the silent alarm (which was the only alarm) and disable the safe, which was on a time lock anyway, so it would do its usual half hour countdown as if preparing to open but never actually open.

    In theory, of course, by the time it becomes obvious that the safe isn't opening, help has arrived.

    disables the safe?
    Fuck that.
    If the duress code doesn't also open the safe before people get nervous, I wouldn't use it. If that makes me an accomplace, Im switching sides and telling them everything. #YOLOSWAG2014, don't take those bags, guys, they have the dye packs in!

    I'd personally want it to stick a needle in the hand entering the code with an antidote and then emit a flashbang followed by knockout gas

    11793-1.png
    day9gosu.png
    QEDMF xbl: PantsB G+
    skippydumptruck
  • MimMim Okay ladies, now let's get in formation. Registered User regular
    you'll do just fine mim, don't let these suspicious olds get you all worked up

    I just worry about getting fired.

    And having medical insurance. Mim needs the birth control so she can get the d.

  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck (♡°◡°) Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    I'd personally want it to stick a needle in the hand entering the code with an antidote and then emit a flashbang followed by knockout gas

    yesss

    got a dr appointment on thurs afternoon but run out of sick time? flashbang, motherfuckers

  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Deebaser wrote: »
    I wish I could talk to my mom about things going on in my life without her losing her shit

    sometimes I need to talk about important highly stressful decisions and have literally no outlet

    *points to [chat]'s 21st Century Pre-Memorial Venting Couch*
    have a seat, bro.

    okay here goes

    my lease was going to run out Oct 1, I wasn't going to sign it because I'm unemployed, I have a few grand in the bank but who knows how long that will last so I was just going to move in with my mom once the landlord got tired of us being month to month

    but my roomate got told my the state they were going to pay all but $200/month of his rent since he's disabled, he told them I lived here too and they're like, oh np

    so anyway I sign the new lease, and he sends it to the state

    turns out that they actually do care that there are two tenantsand he doesn't qualify if someone else is on the lease, they don't care if someone lives with him, but he needs to be the sole tenant on the lease

    can't get landlord to change the lease to have just him on it, landlord thinks it would be committing fraud, landlord won't change it, thinks we're trying to use him to scam the state, landlord won't let us break lease entirely and move out

    motherfucker. can you sublet?

    lease forbids subletting and the landlord has made it pretty clear that he will put zero effort in trying to rerent it if we break the lease, he's moving to arizona in like 2 months

  • RichyRichy http://torchlightmedia.netRegistered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Mim wrote: »
    Don't gossip, get everything in writing when possible (not only to CYA, but also to avoid misunderstandings)

    Congratulations you're ready for almost any office job.

    so contracts or disagreements or insults in writing? Anything else in writing?

    Job descriptions.

    Wage agreements.

    Time-off protocols.

    oh, well i saved the offer letter and i posted the job description here so i'll just save a copy on my hard drive~

    Get your hard drive in writing. Hardcopy every 0 and 1.

    sig.gif
  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck (♡°◡°) Registered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    you'll do just fine mim, don't let these suspicious olds get you all worked up

    I just worry about getting fired.

    And having medical insurance. Mim needs the birth control so she can get the d.

    you won't get fired, just do your best : )

    desc
  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited September 2014
    PantsB wrote: »
    Deebaser wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Last place I worked with duress codes had separate duress codes for the alarm and the safe

    Either code would trigger the silent alarm (which was the only alarm) and disable the safe, which was on a time lock anyway, so it would do its usual half hour countdown as if preparing to open but never actually open.

    In theory, of course, by the time it becomes obvious that the safe isn't opening, help has arrived.

    disables the safe?
    Fuck that.
    If the duress code doesn't also open the safe before people get nervous, I wouldn't use it. If that makes me an accomplace, Im switching sides and telling them everything. #YOLOSWAG2014, don't take those bags, guys, they have the dye packs in!

    I'd personally want it to stick a needle in the hand entering the code with an antidote and then emit a flashbang followed by knockout gas

    give them those gold ignots that turn into murder spiders that kill everyone on their spacesh...

    ...nvm, that was a farscape episode. those arent real.

    Deebaser on
    YOLO. Swag. Whatever. Fuck it. Lets do this.
  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Deebaser wrote: »
    I wish I could talk to my mom about things going on in my life without her losing her shit

    sometimes I need to talk about important highly stressful decisions and have literally no outlet

    *points to [chat]'s 21st Century Pre-Memorial Venting Couch*
    have a seat, bro.

    okay here goes

    my lease was going to run out Oct 1, I wasn't going to sign it because I'm unemployed, I have a few grand in the bank but who knows how long that will last so I was just going to move in with my mom once the landlord got tired of us being month to month

    but my roomate got told my the state they were going to pay all but $200/month of his rent since he's disabled, he told them I lived here too and they're like, oh np

    so anyway I sign the new lease, and he sends it to the state

    turns out that they actually do care that there are two tenantsand he doesn't qualify if someone else is on the lease, they don't care if someone lives with him, but he needs to be the sole tenant on the lease

    can't get landlord to change the lease to have just him on it, landlord thinks it would be committing fraud, landlord won't change it, thinks we're trying to use him to scam the state, landlord won't let us break lease entirely and move out

    motherfucker. can you sublet?

    lease forbids subletting and the landlord has made it pretty clear that he will put zero effort in trying to rerent it if we break the lease, he's moving to arizona in like 2 months

    what a piece of shit.

    YOLO. Swag. Whatever. Fuck it. Lets do this.
    VanguardRear Admiral Choco
  • MimMim Okay ladies, now let's get in formation. Registered User regular
    Richy wrote: »
    Mim wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Mim wrote: »
    Don't gossip, get everything in writing when possible (not only to CYA, but also to avoid misunderstandings)

    Congratulations you're ready for almost any office job.

    so contracts or disagreements or insults in writing? Anything else in writing?

    Job descriptions.

    Wage agreements.

    Time-off protocols.

    oh, well i saved the offer letter and i posted the job description here so i'll just save a copy on my hard drive~

    Get your hard drive in writing. Hardcopy every 0 and 1.

    ...

    *slap*

  • MimMim Okay ladies, now let's get in formation. Registered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    you'll do just fine mim, don't let these suspicious olds get you all worked up

    I just worry about getting fired.

    And having medical insurance. Mim needs the birth control so she can get the d.

    you won't get fired, just do your best : )

    I WILL DO MY BEST

    And take copious amounts of notes.

    Also, I plan to get my septum pierced soon because it's so easy to hide. My first thoughts were "Man I gotta tell skippy and @DemonStacey‌ "

    DemonStacey
  • zepherinzepherin Registered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    you'll do just fine mim, don't let these suspicious olds get you all worked up

    I just worry about getting fired.

    And having medical insurance. Mim needs the birth control so she can get the d.
    Nah you'll be fine.

    Oh shit I forgot one thing. Find out the length of the contract. This is important. Some contracts if they run out the govt sometimes doesn't renew them, or goes with someone else, so when you are 4 or 5 months away from re-compete, try to find another job, or figure out who is competing for the contract call them up and send them your resume, that way no matter who wins you have a contingency offer. ;)

  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited September 2014
    im printing out the state definitions for " live in caregiver" my nephew is disabled and if I don't live here, somebody would have to come by a few days a week to help him out

    according to the definitions I would qualify

    he's going to show the landlord and tell him either it's just him on the lease or he's going to move out

    which leaves me in a bind and a huge year long rent lease, the landlord can't go after him for rent because he's on disability but he could go after me till the end of time

    my nephew believes that when given the option of getting the entire lease worth of rent paid by the state immediately or not getting anything and having to go after an unemployed college student that he'll pick the former

    this has me incredibly nervous

    override367 on
  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Maybe put the apartment up on craigslist anyway? See if people want to check it out this weekend and broker a deal with the slumlord.

    YOLO. Swag. Whatever. Fuck it. Lets do this.
  • MimMim Okay ladies, now let's get in formation. Registered User regular
    I need to learn how to not take things personally, learn when to shut up (I'm too honest) and be more clear and concise.

    oof.

    ALSO, I need to work on having a commanding and convincing voice. Tired of people questioning me when I need their ID.

  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    you'll do just fine mim, don't let these suspicious olds get you all worked up

    you aren't talking about me, are ya skoopy?

    YOLO. Swag. Whatever. Fuck it. Lets do this.
  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck (♡°◡°) Registered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    Also, I plan to get my septum pierced soon because it's so easy to hide. My first thoughts were "Man I gotta tell skippy and @DemonStacey‌ "

    !

    haha I am gonna pull a douchey chat thing and say that septum is like the only piercing I do not like

    I do not think it is cute it looks like boogers oh god

    you should get a tiny sparkly stud in your nostril instead!

  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    Deebaser wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Last place I worked with duress codes had separate duress codes for the alarm and the safe

    Either code would trigger the silent alarm (which was the only alarm) and disable the safe, which was on a time lock anyway, so it would do its usual half hour countdown as if preparing to open but never actually open.

    In theory, of course, by the time it becomes obvious that the safe isn't opening, help has arrived.

    disables the safe?
    Fuck that.
    If the duress code doesn't also open the safe before people get nervous, I wouldn't use it. If that makes me an accomplace, Im switching sides and telling them everything. #YOLOSWAG2014, don't take those bags, guys, they have the dye packs in!

    Whatever happens the time lock means the safe isn't opening for half an hour regardless

    I kind of think that an armed robber is likely to get twitchy long before that

    Especially because it wasn't the kind of place you could realistically hold the staff under threat of violence for very long without it becoming apparent

  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck (♡°◡°) Registered User regular
    *toys with ear guages sadly*

  • MimMim Okay ladies, now let's get in formation. Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    Mim wrote: »
    you'll do just fine mim, don't let these suspicious olds get you all worked up

    I just worry about getting fired.

    And having medical insurance. Mim needs the birth control so she can get the d.
    Nah you'll be fine.

    Oh shit I forgot one thing. Find out the length of the contract. This is important. Some contracts if they run out the govt sometimes doesn't renew them, or goes with someone else, so when you are 4 or 5 months away from re-compete, try to find another job, or figure out who is competing for the contract call them up and send them your resume, that way no matter who wins you have a contingency offer. ;)

    Well, I don't know if it's that kind of contract? I was just told it was permanent full-time. Originally this was a temporary position for 3 months but then it became permanent.

    THESE THINGS END?! I just figured because it was immigration it just kept going and going and going..

  • PotatoNinjaPotatoNinja Fake Gamer Goat Registered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    Don't gossip, get everything in writing when possible (not only to CYA, but also to avoid misunderstandings)

    Congratulations you're ready for almost any office job.

    so contracts or disagreements or insults in writing? Anything else in writing?

    Depends on the job, but the more the better.

    Not just big issues (contracts, wages), everyday issues in writing can be very helpful. Its very easy to hear something incorrectly (and also very easy to say something ineptly), misunderstandings in verbal communication are very easy and since there's no record there's no real way to verify anything. This isn't even necessarily a reflection of bad faith or ineptitude, simple phrases like "report" or "client" or "the deadline" or "soon" can easily communicate two completely different things to each person in a conversation.

    This will vary by job and office. Sometimes you can do almost everything by e-mail, sometimes you'll be the only person in an entire office who really does any work on a PC. When possible, keep a written record because it is safer and more accurate.

    Two goats enter, one car leaves
  • MimMim Okay ladies, now let's get in formation. Registered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    Also, I plan to get my septum pierced soon because it's so easy to hide. My first thoughts were "Man I gotta tell skippy and @DemonStacey‌ "

    !

    haha I am gonna pull a douchey chat thing and say that septum is like the only piercing I do not like

    I do not think it is cute it looks like boogers oh god

    you should get a tiny sparkly stud in your nostril instead!

    ew no.

    septum all the way. It's more just to know it's there than to show it off.

    confidence thing like "Look at the kind of risk you took! YOU CAN DO ANYTHING"

  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck (♡°◡°) Registered User regular
    Deebaser wrote: »
    you'll do just fine mim, don't let these suspicious olds get you all worked up

    you aren't talking about me, are ya skoopy?

    yes! all of you suspicious olds!

    I on the other hand am a carefree and trusting old

  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    Mim, I actually know about that particular job field because of related stuff

    the qualifications are easy to meet in theory - you have to be patient, persistent, and a bit of an organizer because immigrants might give you some shoddy documentation and speak english poorly, which is a hell of a combo to try and work through

    also the database's GUI might be shit so be comfortable with menus and shit

    to conspire, however marginally, whenever possible, against power and indifference
  • ChanusChanus Never Backward Always ForwardRegistered User regular
    welp, i have purchased a GPS watch

    guess i gotta keeping doing this running thing

    what have i become

    D&D [chat] names list for games
    XCOM Name File with [chat] First Names - All Countries, M&F | Or Shivahn's with gendered names
    Blueberrywerewlf on the Sony Anime Games Box | BluberryWerewlf on the BroBone
    **PUUUUUUNCH**
  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck (♡°◡°) Registered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    Mim wrote: »
    Also, I plan to get my septum pierced soon because it's so easy to hide. My first thoughts were "Man I gotta tell skippy and @DemonStacey‌ "

    !

    haha I am gonna pull a douchey chat thing and say that septum is like the only piercing I do not like

    I do not think it is cute it looks like boogers oh god

    you should get a tiny sparkly stud in your nostril instead!

    ew no.

    septum all the way. It's more just to know it's there than to show it off.

    confidence thing like "Look at the kind of risk you took! YOU CAN DO ANYTHING"

    we beefin

    00g piercing needles at dawn

  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    edited September 2014
    double zero gauged my balls just to feel alive

    Eddy on
    to conspire, however marginally, whenever possible, against power and indifference
    skippydumptruck
  • zepherinzepherin Registered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    zepherin wrote: »
    Mim wrote: »
    you'll do just fine mim, don't let these suspicious olds get you all worked up

    I just worry about getting fired.

    And having medical insurance. Mim needs the birth control so she can get the d.
    Nah you'll be fine.

    Oh shit I forgot one thing. Find out the length of the contract. This is important. Some contracts if they run out the govt sometimes doesn't renew them, or goes with someone else, so when you are 4 or 5 months away from re-compete, try to find another job, or figure out who is competing for the contract call them up and send them your resume, that way no matter who wins you have a contingency offer. ;)

    Well, I don't know if it's that kind of contract? I was just told it was permanent full-time. Originally this was a temporary position for 3 months but then it became permanent.

    THESE THINGS END?! I just figured because it was immigration it just kept going and going and going..
    Yes government contracts are periodically re-competed. Per FAR the longest a service contract can go is 5 years. If you message me more details I can try to look it up and see how many options are left on the contract, usually the incumbent wins the contract, and there are all sorts of special set asides and such that make things easier.

  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    Mim wrote: »
    Also, I plan to get my septum pierced soon because it's so easy to hide. My first thoughts were "Man I gotta tell skippy and @DemonStacey‌ "

    !

    haha I am gonna pull a douchey chat thing and say that septum is like the only piercing I do not like

    I do not think it is cute it looks like boogers oh god

    you should get a tiny sparkly stud in your nostril instead!

    ew no.

    septum all the way. It's more just to know it's there than to show it off.

    confidence thing like "Look at the kind of risk you took! YOU CAN DO ANYTHING"

    oh, for the love of pete.
    jesus take the wheel.

    /facepalm

    YOLO. Swag. Whatever. Fuck it. Lets do this.
  • MimMim Okay ladies, now let's get in formation. Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    Mim, I actually know about that particular job field because of related stuff

    the qualifications are easy to meet in theory - you have to be patient, persistent, and a bit of an organizer because immigrants might give you some shoddy documentation and speak english poorly, which is a hell of a combo to try and work through

    also the database's GUI might be shit so be comfortable with menus and shit

    I'm cool with menus as long as they're clear.

    I'm assuming they'll tell me how to distinguish shoddy docs from non-shoddy docs

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