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"The first draft of anything is shit." [NaNoWriMo]

smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road]Registered User regular
edited November 2014 in Social Entropy++
It's October, in case you weren't paying attention. Which means in less than a month it will be November (keep up!) Which means a number of authors and hundreds of thousands of insane people all over the world are going to once again attempt to write 50,000 words of a thing in the space of 30 days.

Are you insane? Do you have ideas hot off the steamy coals of your imagination? Have you been "writing" a "novel" since you were fifteen which is still mostly in the abstract brainstorming phase? Do you hate yourself and need a new method for causing yourself suffering? Well then NaNoWriMo may be the thing for you!

For anyone who doesn't know, NaNoWriMo stands for National Novel Writing Month. It's actually international, and you don't have to write a novel, but the month bit is accurate at least. The goal is simple: write 50,000 words of atrocious grammar and shoddy punctuation between Nov 1st and Dec 1st. That's an average of 1,667 brain melting words a day. It's a rollercoaster of emotion soaring over an ocean of coffee and tears. The great part is if you lose it doesn't matter and nobody cares, and if you win you have a crummy novel and can also get some neat things from the sponsors.

Here is the official website where you can sign up and throw your metaphorical hat into the metaphorical ring. There are forums there for many different regions around the world so potentially you can talk to, and even meet up with, people doing NaNo in your local area. Fair warning: they may be weirdos.


Here are some helpful things that I came up with all by myself and totally didn't steal from Fearghaill's last NaNo thread, which he totally didn't steal from Quoth:
Quoth wrote: »
Seven Steps to the Perfect Story: http://www.the-cma.com/news/seven-steps-to-the-perfect-story

NaNoWriMo Blog: http://blog.nanowrimo.org/
NaNoWriMo Forums: http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums
NaNoWriMo Forums – Writing 101: http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-101

The Snowflake Method: http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/art/snowflake.php

Worldbuilding Questions: http://www.sfwa.org/2009/08/fantasy-worldbuilding-questions/

The Art of Dramatic Writing – Premise: http://www.writerswrite.com/fiction/egri.htm

Jim Butcher – Story Skeletons: http://jimbutcher.livejournal.com/1308.html

The Lester Dent Pulp Paper Master Fiction Plot: http://www.paper-dragon.com/1939/dent.html

How to write a novel in three days: http://www.wetasphalt.com/content/how-write-book-three-days-lessons-michael-moorcock

Fun plot generator: http://fictiongen.inky.me/

Writing.com’s NaNoWriMo prep calendar: http://www.writing.com/main/view_item/item_id/1998261-October-Nano-Prep-2014-Calendar

A map to get out of writer’s block: http://nybookeditors.com/book-editing-copy-editing-proofreading-self-publishing-blog/2013/3/12/a-map-to-get-out-of-writers-block#sthash.AuWOZpt7.dpbs

Jeff VanderMeer’s Wonderbook site: http://wonderbooknow.com/

Stephen King on imagery: http://www.wordplayer.com/pros/pr13.King.Stephen.html

The Emotion Thesauraus: http://thebookshelfmuse.blogspot.com/p/the-emotion-thesaurus.html

Stuff from Chuck Wendig’s blog, which is generally NSFW due to saucy language:

http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2012/09/25/25-things-you-should-do-before-starting-your-next-novel/
http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2012/01/17/25-things-writers-should-start-doing/
http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2013/05/14/25-things-you-should-know-about-outlining/
http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2011/09/14/25-ways-to-plot-plan-and-prep-your-story/
http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2012/11/27/how-chuck-wendig-writes-a-novel/
http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2013/10/08/welcome-to-nanowrimo-prep-school-word-nerds/

A massive conglomeration of random characters, premises, generators and challenges for the folks who need some inspiration: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13xS8Klc7HdTI5vC2nisrys_ixQgh6sp0d5Szq4TUJ5g/edit?usp=sharing



So, yeah. Are any SE++ers planning to NaNo this year? It's still three weeks away but I thought if we had the thread now while there was planning time it would spur people to give it a go.

I wasn't going to do it. Now I'm thinking I will probably at least start. I just signed into my NaNo account for the first time since last year and apparently I won last year? It says I got 50,200 words. I was pretty sure I lost! So now I need to try and find my story from last year and see just what the hell I actually wrote.

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  • VicVic Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    I utterly failed at NaNoWriMo last year, but it did inspire me to actually take up writing as a hobby, to the point where I produced nearly all of the 50k required over December. I haven't been hugely productive since, but I try to write as much as I can.

    I'm pretty dedicated to finish this year! I have a smutty sci-fi story lined up that should fill up at least 50k words and I should hopefully have all the free time needed, so the biggest obstacle in my way is writers block. Thanks for the awesome post by the way smof, I'll be sure to check through some of those resources.

    Vic on
  • LegbaLegba He did. Registered User regular
    People who manage to complete NaNoWriMo are pretty awesome. I haven't entered since 2009 or so, but I failed plenty of times before then.

    At the moment, I'm on track with the first draft of a screenplay that is scheduled to be done in mid November, and the plan was to immediately begin work on a play to be done in february... but perhaps if I'm efficient and finish off the screenplay early enough, I... still have to dedicate time to my film school application.

    So I guess no dice for me this year, either.

  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I am probably going to be revisiting an idea I've attempted in 2 previous NaNo's already, because apparently my brain can't come up with anything new until I actually get this thing written.

    Problem is, I'm terrible at plotting. I like worldbuilding and coming up with characters but am rubbish at working out what they're actually supposed to do between the beginning and end of the story. So I think that's what I've got to try and figure out over the next three weeks. At least last year proves I am capable of producing the word count.

  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I fail this every year, might as well keep that going with another attempt

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    This is the year I'm going to again say I'm going to finish this then not finish it which is exactly the same as every other year.

  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    I am probably going to be revisiting an idea I've attempted in 2 previous NaNo's already, because apparently my brain can't come up with anything new until I actually get this thing written.

    Problem is, I'm terrible at plotting. I like worldbuilding and coming up with characters but am rubbish at working out what they're actually supposed to do between the beginning and end of the story. So I think that's what I've got to try and figure out over the next three weeks. At least last year proves I am capable of producing the word count.

    If you need any help, you can talk to me, I'm not that great either at coming up with stories but I found that talking to someone usually helps.

  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    instead of writing 50,000 words

    i'ma try to write 50,000 lines of code for this project

  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I spent today writing 1500 words of more world building stuff.

    Maybe if I do enough world building a plot will just... happen?

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    I spent today writing 1500 words of more world building stuff.

    Maybe if I do enough world building a plot will just... happen?

    plot doesn't come from the world, it comes from the characters

    figure out who your characters are, and what they want. "Plot" is what happens when those wants conflict with each other.

    I'm juggling two ideas for now. The first is an alt-history story set in a world where alchemy works, and a cabal of alchemists with the ability to grant eternal life control much of Europe's leaders. The main character is a young woman, daughter of an infamous mad scientist, living in anonymity in an early North American colony. She wants to use her talents to help and protect her fellow colonists, and to pursue her love of science without calling too much attention to herself or her heritage. The main antagonist is a British nobleman trying to buy his way into the "eternal youth" club, and is secretly backing a group of pirates that is raiding towns and shipping in the New World.

    The second is urban fantasy/cyberpunk. The main characters are a police officer forced to work with a corporate agent to investigate a magical murder unlike anything anyone's seen before, and a bodyguard protecting a music producer who is convinced his former client, the biggest star in the world, is trying to have him killed. I'm still working on the antagonists' wants right now. I know how the murder was committed, still working on motive, but the protagonists' wants are "wants to solve the murder" and "wants to do so in a way that makes himself & the RCMP look good, and the corporation and it's agent look ineffective"

  • DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    I can't write for shit, but I CAN churn out ideas, so if anyone wants help with ideas I'm dtb (down to brainstorm)

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  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    I'm gonna aim for another 90 page script for this

    luckily I already have an outline going!

  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    Psst, I updated the links in the Nano thread in TWB if you want to totally not steal them

  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I kind of want to do something really ambitious with lots of characters and conspiracy and intrigue but am afraid I'm too dumb and will just get confused.

    Will update the links when I'm next at my PC, Quoth, cheers :)

  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    I'm going to write a bunch of loosely connected space pirate stories about thinly veiled social justice issues

  • TaskmanTaskman Registered User regular
    I am throwing in my hat. Later, I will eat it in frustration. Good thing it's a metaphor, they're easy to swallow.

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  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Quoth wrote: »
    I'm going to write a bunch of loosely connected space pirate stories about thinly veiled social justice issues

    That sounds waaay more fun than my idea.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Man this could be the time I actually do this

    I got my idea it's just, well

    that's a lot of words for one month with everything else I have on right now!

  • ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    I'm going to (not) write a 50,000 word trigger warning about a near future where people can turn off certain senses (e.g. just not hear people talking/screaming/crying to them that they don't want to listen to) and the terrible things it enables people to do with much less remorse than would otherwise exist.

    A magician gives you a ring that, when worn, will let you see the world as it truly is.
    However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I may just pick up the idea I started last year which is velociraptors never went extinct and are hiding in places of power and many famous historical people, such as Abe Lincoln, were actually velociraptors.

  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Man this could be the time I actually do this

    I got my idea it's just, well

    that's a lot of words for one month with everything else I have on right now!

    1667 words is a lot, it's true.

    But you know what's not that much? 200 words. If you can take a break 8 times in your day to write 200 words, you've basically hit the quota.

    This was my winning strategy last year. I would sit at my PC for a few hours and get about 1000 words done, then while at work I'd try and bash out a couple hundred words on my phone between deliveries a few times per shift. It worked.

  • FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    Someone on the Nano forums commented that 50,000 words isn't that much if you're a fast typist. You just need to write for 15 minutes per day!

    I'm taking that advice to heart and writing a stream-of-consciousness diary-type novel about the process of writing a novel. It will be terrible.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Screw Flanders 25,000 times.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Screw Flanders 25,000 times.

    In a month?

    That's one way to make Wilt Chamberlain look practically impotent.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Screw Flanders 25,000 times.

    In a month?

    That's one way to make Wilt Chamberlain look practically impotent.

    Geth ban chriahallett

  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Screw Flanders 25,000 times.

    In a month?

    That's one way to make Wilt Chamberlain look practically impotent.

    Stupid sexy Flanders.

    chiasaur11 on
  • VegemyteVegemyte Registered User regular
    I keep forgetting to start on November 1st, so the first time I tried I had to do 2,000 words a day to reach 50,000, and I only got to 36,000.

    Last year I started on time and only got to 5,000, so I guess I'll try again this year!

  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    Reminder that we tend to run sprints in the IRC all through November, and if you want to prep I also hang out there most days during work hours EST

    Sometimes I am a helper

  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    Fine. I'll bite.

    I need to rewrite the piece of shit I failed to pump out last year anyways.

  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Have updated the links in the OP. Thank you @Quoth!

    Also the NaNoWriMo website has now reset for this year so you can sign up and register your novel. Anyone wants to add me as a writing buddy my username is smof.

  • DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    Screw Flanders 25,000 times.

    In a month?

    That's one way to make Wilt Chamberlain look practically impotent.

    Geth ban chriahallett

    No, no, you're looking for Chri S Hallett. This is Chri A Hallett.

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  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Do many people use famous actors/actresses or other real people as templates for characters' appearances? I don't usually, but the thought "write a character that Natalie Dormer would play in the movie adaptation" just popped into my head, and it seems to be helping.

  • OdinOdin Registered User regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Do many people use famous actors/actresses or other real people as templates for characters' appearances? I don't usually, but the thought "write a character that Natalie Dormer would play in the movie adaptation" just popped into my head, and it seems to be helping.

    I do that all the time with books that have a big cast, because I'm rubbish at keeping names straight unless I have a face to associate them with.

    So I'd be like "Wait, who's this guy again? Oh right, he's the one who looks like Liam Neeson."

  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Do many people use famous actors/actresses or other real people as templates for characters' appearances? I don't usually, but the thought "write a character that Natalie Dormer would play in the movie adaptation" just popped into my head, and it seems to be helping.

    Yuuuup, big time.

    You ever watch The Borgias? Sean Harris in the role of Micheletto was my inspiration for a character which then spurred the whole idea for the story I've spent the last three or four years trying to write.


    this dude

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    smof on
  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Also Fearghaill now I really want you to write that thing and get it made into a movie because Natalie Dormer <3

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Jesus Christ man, give me some warning.

    Dat haircut.

  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    im doing this, though i will almost certainly not hit 50k words. hopefully this will just get me jumpstarted and i can keep writing through december and january.

    Nogs on
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  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    That world building I did the other day paid off, it ended up producing a few new characters and things kind of clicked into place, and I've been hammering out a plot outline ever since. I reckon I'm about 1/2 done, I nearly have all my important characters together in the place where the final third of the story is meant to happen. Some things along the way are a little vague but I'm more bothered about figuring out how to get to the end, then I'll go back and fill in the details.

    I
    suck
    at
    endings.

  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    I think I will pass on writing a novel, but I might try a couple of comics. I'm just trying to figure out what would be equivalent.

    If a picture is worth a thousand words and one comic page=one picture then 2 and a bit issues would cover it (an issue is about 24 pages). But plenty of people do the 24 hr comic day where they do one issue in a day. So I think I will need to do more than 3, but I sure as heck ain't gonna do 30 issues.

    Looking at a list of graphic novels that I like it seems that 500 pages would be a good aim point:

    From Hell - 572 pages -
    Habibi - 672 pages -
    A Contract With God - 196 pages -
    Rasl - 472 -
    Tumor - 239 -

    So, 500 pages, that works out to roughly 20 issues.

  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Alright, so I think I'm gonna do it. I just need to be able to turn a reacting protagonist into a proactive protagonist. And I want to do it without using exposition.

    So the story begins with the protagonist being hounded for an unknown reason. And I need to turn this into the protagonist going on the attack and the obvious way to do it would be to have the protagonist join up with a group who can explain things to them. Like the Council of Elrond in the LotR or a billion other stories. But, I want to avoid that cliché.

    Cool, my laptop autocorrects cliché to have the little dash.

    Anyway, if I can do that then I will have no problem. But if I can't then I'm stuck with a protagonist who only reacts to things, which will get boring and won't go anywhere.

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