i don't know how you could say gamers or gaming culture doesn't tend towards sexism if you've actually you know, been involved in a gaming community (esp. on the internet)
penny arcade is an internet gaming community
do we tend towards sexism?
There was the stuff that happened around a previous mod of this very sub forum... PA is much better than average society but it's not exactly free of this.
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y2jake215certified Flat Birther theoristthe Last Good Boy onlineRegistered Userregular
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Gamer communities are very treehouse.
This same thing (not to this extreme, and not to minimize) happened when filthy casuals ruined gaming as well.
Now we accept casual gaming and its a market force because adults have things to do sometimes.
I would imagine there's a lot of overlap on the venn diagram of people who have said, in utter seriousness, that casuals ruin gaming, and the GG people
but casuals do ruin gaming
Shameful pursuits and utterly stupid opinions
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TehSlothHit Or MissI Guess They Never Miss, HuhRegistered Userregular
Did you see my other post? I have a friend that is an editor of a small town free newspaper that has received death threats. That's a lot closer to the mark of vidya game writer and probably has a much smaller readership than a lot of even small time bloggers
I did. I don't know why it prompted you to post an even less analogous position but I don't find that one especially compelling either. Readership for their physical paper is at its lowest at 150k+ readers. That doesn't include their internet blogs. Sarkeesian only recently had as many subscribers as the newspaper alone in the last few months.
Though out of curiosity how often was your friend's home address tweeted and retweeted by a movement totally not about misogyny hating journalists?
150K? Internet blogs? What? Dude, im talking small. The town in question has a population of 50,000. The paper is basically the pennysaver with articles. The point of both anecdotes is that if you are a public figure in any capacity some asshole is going to send you a threat. It sucks, but it's sadly the way shit has been for a long while and it's not news. There's always going to be some asshole.
Oh sorry I misread.
So how many death threats and for what?
Cause Sarkeesian isn't being attacked by that one asshole down the street that everyone knows is a total jerk.
Anonymous and does the frequency really matter?
They are threats made anonymously by one or a few people in a small audience over some bullshit like the coverage of a local car show or some thing.
I think the frequency does matter, yes. Is that a real question?
Well since we're keeping score for some reason, I think I received 2.
I have no idea how many my editor buddy receives, but they come in the form of email and "actual fucking letters".
is that enough?
Enough for what. I think the frequency matters in how it will affect someone psychologically. One is too much, but there is going to be a difference between intermittent threats and several, daily.
And the specificity. Some of those contain personal address details, names of family, schools etc.
Okay, you want specificity?
I was a letter to my parent's house anonymously that threatened me by name and said that I would pay for some unspecified wrong I did to his/her family. At the time I was working in the No department of a Health Insurance company making bullshit money.
How many tweets is that worth?
This is goosey as fuck.
It is. Especially what happened to you.
So is it also not terrible that it happened to someone else or what? Seriously, what is the point you're trying to get at here?
Every public figure, even ones with relatively tiny audiences get anonymous threats. It is a part of being in the public sphere. If you have a large audience it would be more of a story if you didn't get them.
Yeah then what happens when one of those comes true? Jared Lee Loughner? Boston Marathon bombers? Elliott Rodger? Sandy Hook? Do we just wait again for the post-analysis, where we collectively mutter in the media, "The signs were all there!" and dissect our stances on mental illness vs social safety net vs security vs gun rights?
i don't know how you could say gamers or gaming culture doesn't tend towards sexism if you've actually you know, been involved in a gaming community (esp. on the internet)
penny arcade is an internet gaming community
do we tend towards sexism?
PA is one website about the gaming community, the internet is large place with the gaming community popping up in various locations at various states. What's tolerated here isn't standard for everywhere. That's why it's such a great forum.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
if you don't want to get anonymous death threats just don't ever interact with another human being from the day you're born it's not hard
Did you see my other post? I have a friend that is an editor of a small town free newspaper that has received death threats. That's a lot closer to the mark of vidya game writer and probably has a much smaller readership than a lot of even small time bloggers
I did. I don't know why it prompted you to post an even less analogous position but I don't find that one especially compelling either. Readership for their physical paper is at its lowest at 150k+ readers. That doesn't include their internet blogs. Sarkeesian only recently had as many subscribers as the newspaper alone in the last few months.
Though out of curiosity how often was your friend's home address tweeted and retweeted by a movement totally not about misogyny hating journalists?
150K? Internet blogs? What? Dude, im talking small. The town in question has a population of 50,000. The paper is basically the pennysaver with articles. The point of both anecdotes is that if you are a public figure in any capacity some asshole is going to send you a threat. It sucks, but it's sadly the way shit has been for a long while and it's not news. There's always going to be some asshole.
Oh sorry I misread.
So how many death threats and for what?
Cause Sarkeesian isn't being attacked by that one asshole down the street that everyone knows is a total jerk.
Anonymous and does the frequency really matter?
They are threats made anonymously by one or a few people in a small audience over some bullshit like the coverage of a local car show or some thing.
I think the frequency does matter, yes. Is that a real question?
Well since we're keeping score for some reason, I think I received 2.
I have no idea how many my editor buddy receives, but they come in the form of email and "actual fucking letters".
is that enough?
Enough for what. I think the frequency matters in how it will affect someone psychologically. One is too much, but there is going to be a difference between intermittent threats and several, daily.
And the specificity. Some of those contain personal address details, names of family, schools etc.
Okay, you want specificity?
I was a letter to my parent's house anonymously that threatened me by name and said that I would pay for some unspecified wrong I did to his/her family. At the time I was working in the No department of a Health Insurance company making bullshit money.
How many tweets is that worth?
This is goosey as fuck.
It is. Especially what happened to you.
So is it also not terrible that it happened to someone else or what? Seriously, what is the point you're trying to get at here?
Every public figure, even ones with relatively tiny populations get anonymous threats. It is a part of being in the public sphere. If you have a large audience it would be more of a story if you didn't get them.
So
You don't think it matters that she's getting tons of death threats or what? Or I guess just not a big deal.
tons?
Could you provide the frequency and specificity? It's apparently important.
They certainly do. Though neither of us know the exact number. I know I only saw a few dozen tweets with her address and none of the e-mails. But for some reason you've decided it's not important in this case despite the fact that the person receiving them and the FBI disagrees.
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OnTheLastCastlelet's keep it haimish for the peripateticRegistered Userregular
I think what's more noteworthy and disturbing than the death threats (I mean, as it relates to the gamersgate people, as before I have to include the addendum that it's up to the person what they feel is the most egregious attack against them) is the rape threats and spreading of personal information, nude photos, and huge social media campaign, as well as literal conspiracies against them by the anons that make up GG
like that's what makes what's happening to ZQ different than what happens to like, Pewdiepie
okay yeah people send pewdiepie threats
nobody is sending pictures of his dick to millions of people and calling him a whore and talking about raping him
i don't know how you could say gamers or gaming culture doesn't tend towards sexism if you've actually you know, been involved in a gaming community (esp. on the internet)
penny arcade is an internet gaming community
do we tend towards sexism?
I would think that nearly anyone who doesn't post here, and a fair few who do, would say "hell yes how could anyone even think otherwise unless they are an MRA"
Jerry and Mike have a reputation roughly on par with Zoe Quinn's ex
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Deebaseron my way to work in a suit and a tieAhhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered Userregular
Did you see my other post? I have a friend that is an editor of a small town free newspaper that has received death threats. That's a lot closer to the mark of vidya game writer and probably has a much smaller readership than a lot of even small time bloggers
I did. I don't know why it prompted you to post an even less analogous position but I don't find that one especially compelling either. Readership for their physical paper is at its lowest at 150k+ readers. That doesn't include their internet blogs. Sarkeesian only recently had as many subscribers as the newspaper alone in the last few months.
Though out of curiosity how often was your friend's home address tweeted and retweeted by a movement totally not about misogyny hating journalists?
150K? Internet blogs? What? Dude, im talking small. The town in question has a population of 50,000. The paper is basically the pennysaver with articles. The point of both anecdotes is that if you are a public figure in any capacity some asshole is going to send you a threat. It sucks, but it's sadly the way shit has been for a long while and it's not news. There's always going to be some asshole.
Oh sorry I misread.
So how many death threats and for what?
Cause Sarkeesian isn't being attacked by that one asshole down the street that everyone knows is a total jerk.
Anonymous and does the frequency really matter?
They are threats made anonymously by one or a few people in a small audience over some bullshit like the coverage of a local car show or some thing.
I think the frequency does matter, yes. Is that a real question?
Well since we're keeping score for some reason, I think I received 2.
I have no idea how many my editor buddy receives, but they come in the form of email and "actual fucking letters".
is that enough?
Enough for what. I think the frequency matters in how it will affect someone psychologically. One is too much, but there is going to be a difference between intermittent threats and several, daily.
And the specificity. Some of those contain personal address details, names of family, schools etc.
Okay, you want specificity?
I was a letter to my parent's house anonymously that threatened me by name and said that I would pay for some unspecified wrong I did to his/her family. At the time I was working in the No department of a Health Insurance company making bullshit money.
How many tweets is that worth?
This is goosey as fuck.
It is. Especially what happened to you.
So is it also not terrible that it happened to someone else or what? Seriously, what is the point you're trying to get at here?
Every public figure, even ones with relatively tiny audiences get anonymous threats. It is a part of being in the public sphere. If you have a large audience it would be more of a story if you didn't get them.
Yeah then what happens when one of those comes true? Jared Lee Loughner? Boston Marathon bombers? Elliott Rodger? Sandy Hook? Do we just wait again for the post-analysis, where we collectively mutter in the media, "The signs were all there!" and dissect our stances on mental illness vs social safety net vs security vs gun rights?
Can we please shelve this dismissive attitude?
Did they even have twitter handles?
k. its after 5 im out.
we all do vexatious things that are our vexatious things
i know, for example, I'm a giant blowhard who bulldozers conversations
it's something i am keenly aware of and try to reign in because it can be annoying
but one of your very vexatious things is for like, every single controversial issue that affects a group that is not you
your de facto response is
"Yeah but... is this really a problem? I mean, I don't see it happen. I'm not doubting it's existence, guys, I'm just saying... is it really that bad?"
Yes, yes it is, or at the very least we believe it is or we wouldn't be so dang fired up about it, so when you ask that question it never comes across in good faith, it comes across as a way of you shrugging your shoulders and kind of being in denial of the issue or minimizing the outrage because it doesn't affect you or you're not seeing what all the fuss is about.
And I kind of wish you'd just... stop doing that?
Like either take in good faith that people are mad for a reason, or believe that they are not because you have a good reason not to
don't just take a default position of doubting them because you think you ought to.
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ChelleYeahMrs. LudiousLiving it up in Cinderella's CastleRegistered Userregular
Did you see my other post? I have a friend that is an editor of a small town free newspaper that has received death threats. That's a lot closer to the mark of vidya game writer and probably has a much smaller readership than a lot of even small time bloggers
I did. I don't know why it prompted you to post an even less analogous position but I don't find that one especially compelling either. Readership for their physical paper is at its lowest at 150k+ readers. That doesn't include their internet blogs. Sarkeesian only recently had as many subscribers as the newspaper alone in the last few months.
Though out of curiosity how often was your friend's home address tweeted and retweeted by a movement totally not about misogyny hating journalists?
150K? Internet blogs? What? Dude, im talking small. The town in question has a population of 50,000. The paper is basically the pennysaver with articles. The point of both anecdotes is that if you are a public figure in any capacity some asshole is going to send you a threat. It sucks, but it's sadly the way shit has been for a long while and it's not news. There's always going to be some asshole.
Oh sorry I misread.
So how many death threats and for what?
Cause Sarkeesian isn't being attacked by that one asshole down the street that everyone knows is a total jerk.
Anonymous and does the frequency really matter?
They are threats made anonymously by one or a few people in a small audience over some bullshit like the coverage of a local car show or some thing.
I think the frequency does matter, yes. Is that a real question?
Well since we're keeping score for some reason, I think I received 2.
I have no idea how many my editor buddy receives, but they come in the form of email and "actual fucking letters".
is that enough?
Enough for what. I think the frequency matters in how it will affect someone psychologically. One is too much, but there is going to be a difference between intermittent threats and several, daily.
And the specificity. Some of those contain personal address details, names of family, schools etc.
Okay, you want specificity?
I was a letter to my parent's house anonymously that threatened me by name and said that I would pay for some unspecified wrong I did to his/her family. At the time I was working in the No department of a Health Insurance company making bullshit money.
How many tweets is that worth?
This is goosey as fuck.
It is. Especially what happened to you.
So is it also not terrible that it happened to someone else or what? Seriously, what is the point you're trying to get at here?
Deebs honestly, this is a moment when you need to step back and get some distance from your personal experiences. There are a host of differences between your situation and Anita Sarkeesian's, or Brianna Wu's, or any other person in the public eye you are scoffing at for taking the death threats they are receiving seriously. Honestly--I know you hate this word, but this is the point where you need to examine your privilege and the position you are arguing from. It is not a strong one.
Who is Brianna Wu?
Respected developer living in NYC who fled her apartment with her husband due to a very specific, frightening death threat related to gamergate
Did you see my other post? I have a friend that is an editor of a small town free newspaper that has received death threats. That's a lot closer to the mark of vidya game writer and probably has a much smaller readership than a lot of even small time bloggers
I did. I don't know why it prompted you to post an even less analogous position but I don't find that one especially compelling either. Readership for their physical paper is at its lowest at 150k+ readers. That doesn't include their internet blogs. Sarkeesian only recently had as many subscribers as the newspaper alone in the last few months.
Though out of curiosity how often was your friend's home address tweeted and retweeted by a movement totally not about misogyny hating journalists?
150K? Internet blogs? What? Dude, im talking small. The town in question has a population of 50,000. The paper is basically the pennysaver with articles. The point of both anecdotes is that if you are a public figure in any capacity some asshole is going to send you a threat. It sucks, but it's sadly the way shit has been for a long while and it's not news. There's always going to be some asshole.
Oh sorry I misread.
So how many death threats and for what?
Cause Sarkeesian isn't being attacked by that one asshole down the street that everyone knows is a total jerk.
Anonymous and does the frequency really matter?
They are threats made anonymously by one or a few people in a small audience over some bullshit like the coverage of a local car show or some thing.
I think the frequency does matter, yes. Is that a real question?
Well since we're keeping score for some reason, I think I received 2.
I have no idea how many my editor buddy receives, but they come in the form of email and "actual fucking letters".
is that enough?
Enough for what. I think the frequency matters in how it will affect someone psychologically. One is too much, but there is going to be a difference between intermittent threats and several, daily.
And the specificity. Some of those contain personal address details, names of family, schools etc.
Okay, you want specificity?
I was a letter to my parent's house anonymously that threatened me by name and said that I would pay for some unspecified wrong I did to his/her family. At the time I was working in the No department of a Health Insurance company making bullshit money.
How many tweets is that worth?
This is goosey as fuck.
It is. Especially what happened to you.
So is it also not terrible that it happened to someone else or what? Seriously, what is the point you're trying to get at here?
Every public figure, even ones with relatively tiny audiences get anonymous threats. It is a part of being in the public sphere. If you have a large audience it would be more of a story if you didn't get them.
so it didn't mean anything about racism when obama got more death threats than normal?
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surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
we all do vexatious things that are our vexatious things
i know, for example, I'm a giant blowhard who bulldozers conversations
it's something i am keenly aware of and try to reign in because it can be annoying
but one of your very vexatious things is for like, every single controversial issue that affects a group that is not you
your de facto response is
"Yeah but... is this really a problem? I mean, I don't see it happen. I'm not doubting it's existence, guys, I'm just saying... is it really that bad?"
Yes, yes it is, or at the very least we believe it is or we wouldn't be so dang fired up about it, so when you ask that question it never comes across in good faith, it comes across as a way of you shrugging your shoulders and kind of being in denial of the issue or minimizing the outrage because it doesn't affect you or you're not seeing what all the fuss is about.
And I kind of wish you'd just... stop doing that?
Like either take in good faith that people are mad for a reason, or believe that they are not because you have a good reason not to
don't just take a default position of doubting them because you think you ought to.
there is a Chrome extension out there that changes "SJW" or to "skeleton" in any displayed web-page and it makes reading stupid Gater garbage kind of amazing:
Infiltration?
These people are paranoid and delusional.
i dunno skeletons are super spooky
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HakkekageSpace Whore Academysumma cum laudeRegistered Userregular
Did you see my other post? I have a friend that is an editor of a small town free newspaper that has received death threats. That's a lot closer to the mark of vidya game writer and probably has a much smaller readership than a lot of even small time bloggers
I did. I don't know why it prompted you to post an even less analogous position but I don't find that one especially compelling either. Readership for their physical paper is at its lowest at 150k+ readers. That doesn't include their internet blogs. Sarkeesian only recently had as many subscribers as the newspaper alone in the last few months.
Though out of curiosity how often was your friend's home address tweeted and retweeted by a movement totally not about misogyny hating journalists?
150K? Internet blogs? What? Dude, im talking small. The town in question has a population of 50,000. The paper is basically the pennysaver with articles. The point of both anecdotes is that if you are a public figure in any capacity some asshole is going to send you a threat. It sucks, but it's sadly the way shit has been for a long while and it's not news. There's always going to be some asshole.
Oh sorry I misread.
So how many death threats and for what?
Cause Sarkeesian isn't being attacked by that one asshole down the street that everyone knows is a total jerk.
Anonymous and does the frequency really matter?
They are threats made anonymously by one or a few people in a small audience over some bullshit like the coverage of a local car show or some thing.
I think the frequency does matter, yes. Is that a real question?
Well since we're keeping score for some reason, I think I received 2.
I have no idea how many my editor buddy receives, but they come in the form of email and "actual fucking letters".
is that enough?
Enough for what. I think the frequency matters in how it will affect someone psychologically. One is too much, but there is going to be a difference between intermittent threats and several, daily.
And the specificity. Some of those contain personal address details, names of family, schools etc.
Okay, you want specificity?
I was a letter to my parent's house anonymously that threatened me by name and said that I would pay for some unspecified wrong I did to his/her family. At the time I was working in the No department of a Health Insurance company making bullshit money.
How many tweets is that worth?
This is goosey as fuck.
It is. Especially what happened to you.
So is it also not terrible that it happened to someone else or what? Seriously, what is the point you're trying to get at here?
Every public figure, even ones with relatively tiny audiences get anonymous threats. It is a part of being in the public sphere. If you have a large audience it would be more of a story if you didn't get them.
Yeah then what happens when one of those comes true? Jared Lee Loughner? Boston Marathon bombers? Elliott Rodger? Sandy Hook? Do we just wait again for the post-analysis, where we collectively mutter in the media, "The signs were all there!" and dissect our stances on mental illness vs social safety net vs security vs gun rights?
Can we please shelve this dismissive attitude?
Did they even have twitter handles?
k. its after 5 im out.
we all do vexatious things that are our vexatious things
i know, for example, I'm a giant blowhard who bulldozers conversations
it's something i am keenly aware of and try to reign in because it can be annoying
but one of your very vexatious things is for like, every single controversial issue that affects a group that is not you
your de facto response is
"Yeah but... is this really a problem? I mean, I don't see it happen. I'm not doubting it's existence, guys, I'm just saying... is it really that bad?"
Yes, yes it is, or at the very least we believe it is or we wouldn't be so dang fired up about it, so when you ask that question it never comes across in good faith, it comes across as a way of you shrugging your shoulders and kind of being in denial of the issue or minimizing the outrage because it doesn't affect you or you're not seeing what all the fuss is about.
And I kind of wish you'd just... stop doing that?
Like either take in good faith that people are mad for a reason, or believe that they are not because you have a good reason not to
don't just take a default position of doubting them because you think you ought to.
I have a tendency to do this as well and I very much appreciate people's patience with me, because it's bad and I don't want to be a guy that does that because too many guys do that
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there is a Chrome extension out there that changes "SJW" or to "skeleton" in any displayed web-page and it makes reading stupid Gater garbage kind of amazing:
Infiltration?
These people are paranoid and delusional.
You see the concept of infiltration used in a lot of weird hate speech stuff. Like one of the arguments white supremacists will throw out is that the Jews act as infiltrators for black people. Or Latinos fulfilling the same role. It really does fit into a paranoid mindset where they are looking for potential spies and traitors everywhere.
there is a Chrome extension out there that changes "SJW" or to "skeleton" in any displayed web-page and it makes reading stupid Gater garbage kind of amazing:
Infiltration?
These people are paranoid and delusional.
i dunno skeletons are super spooky
yeah but they're horrible at infiltrating things because they make rattling noises when they walk
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
we all do vexatious things that are our vexatious things
i know, for example, I'm a giant blowhard who bulldozers conversations
it's something i am keenly aware of and try to reign in because it can be annoying
but one of your very vexatious things is for like, every single controversial issue that affects a group that is not you
your de facto response is
"Yeah but... is this really a problem? I mean, I don't see it happen. I'm not doubting it's existence, guys, I'm just saying... is it really that bad?"
Yes, yes it is, or at the very least we believe it is or we wouldn't be so dang fired up about it, so when you ask that question it never comes across in good faith, it comes across as a way of you shrugging your shoulders and kind of being in denial of the issue or minimizing the outrage because it doesn't affect you or you're not seeing what all the fuss is about.
And I kind of wish you'd just... stop doing that?
Like either take in good faith that people are mad for a reason, or believe that they are not because you have a good reason not to
don't just take a default position of doubting them because you think you ought to.
I have a tendency to do this as well and I very much appreciate people's patience with me, because it's bad and I don't want to be a guy that does that because too many guys do that
do that many guys really do that
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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cptruggedI think it has something to do with free will.Registered Userregular
we all do vexatious things that are our vexatious things
i know, for example, I'm a giant blowhard who bulldozers conversations
it's something i am keenly aware of and try to reign in because it can be annoying
but one of your very vexatious things is for like, every single controversial issue that affects a group that is not you
your de facto response is
"Yeah but... is this really a problem? I mean, I don't see it happen. I'm not doubting it's existence, guys, I'm just saying... is it really that bad?"
Yes, yes it is, or at the very least we believe it is or we wouldn't be so dang fired up about it, so when you ask that question it never comes across in good faith, it comes across as a way of you shrugging your shoulders and kind of being in denial of the issue or minimizing the outrage because it doesn't affect you or you're not seeing what all the fuss is about.
And I kind of wish you'd just... stop doing that?
Like either take in good faith that people are mad for a reason, or believe that they are not because you have a good reason not to
don't just take a default position of doubting them because you think you ought to.
Is doing this really that bad though
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
we all do vexatious things that are our vexatious things
i know, for example, I'm a giant blowhard who bulldozers conversations
it's something i am keenly aware of and try to reign in because it can be annoying
but one of your very vexatious things is for like, every single controversial issue that affects a group that is not you
your de facto response is
"Yeah but... is this really a problem? I mean, I don't see it happen. I'm not doubting it's existence, guys, I'm just saying... is it really that bad?"
Yes, yes it is, or at the very least we believe it is or we wouldn't be so dang fired up about it, so when you ask that question it never comes across in good faith, it comes across as a way of you shrugging your shoulders and kind of being in denial of the issue or minimizing the outrage because it doesn't affect you or you're not seeing what all the fuss is about.
And I kind of wish you'd just... stop doing that?
Like either take in good faith that people are mad for a reason, or believe that they are not because you have a good reason not to
don't just take a default position of doubting them because you think you ought to.
I have a tendency to do this as well and I very much appreciate people's patience with me, because it's bad and I don't want to be a guy that does that because too many guys do that
there is a Chrome extension out there that changes "SJW" or to "skeleton" in any displayed web-page and it makes reading stupid Gater garbage kind of amazing:
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How did the beetle lecture go?
There was the stuff that happened around a previous mod of this very sub forum... PA is much better than average society but it's not exactly free of this.
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
I wanted a sneaky, backstabby dagger rogue in grumrick 1 but I just went with the default party and I couldn't pass up the guns in this one so
except i promised a friend i'd go to a happy hour and uggghhhhhh i got destiny, evil within and alien isolation to play too
why is my life so haaaaaaaaard
extremely hurt apparently
twitch.tv/tehsloth
Yeah then what happens when one of those comes true? Jared Lee Loughner? Boston Marathon bombers? Elliott Rodger? Sandy Hook? Do we just wait again for the post-analysis, where we collectively mutter in the media, "The signs were all there!" and dissect our stances on mental illness vs social safety net vs security vs gun rights?
Can we please shelve this dismissive attitude?
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Cheese smells like feet because it has bacteria in it that from human feet.
This means that cheese attracts mosquitos.
Sitting comfortably.
PA is one website about the gaming community, the internet is large place with the gaming community popping up in various locations at various states. What's tolerated here isn't standard for everywhere. That's why it's such a great forum.
The article does make it seem more like a dry test run of a modern form of the culture war movements.
The use of maneuvers like the old ones of standing with signs and fire bombs outside an abortion doctors house.
The fact the groups that jumped into were very much groups like AEI screams that even more to me.
Almost an irony that 4chan, home of script kiddy anarchs, are basically being used as guinea pigs for a new set of culture war tactics.
capslock is an anagram of cockslap
you can guess where I'm going with this
Someone please tell me they used the Dukes of Hazard theme song as the background music.
something something in the butt
They certainly do. Though neither of us know the exact number. I know I only saw a few dozen tweets with her address and none of the e-mails. But for some reason you've decided it's not important in this case despite the fact that the person receiving them and the FBI disagrees.
i think alchemists are good at guns too.
I got a death threat playing laser tag
They waited for me in the parking lot after the game.
I'm not kidding.
like that's what makes what's happening to ZQ different than what happens to like, Pewdiepie
okay yeah people send pewdiepie threats
nobody is sending pictures of his dick to millions of people and calling him a whore and talking about raping him
I would think that nearly anyone who doesn't post here, and a fair few who do, would say "hell yes how could anyone even think otherwise unless they are an MRA"
Jerry and Mike have a reputation roughly on par with Zoe Quinn's ex
Did they even have twitter handles?
k. its after 5 im out.
Perhaps "what what" in the butt?
we all do vexatious things that are our vexatious things
i know, for example, I'm a giant blowhard who bulldozers conversations
it's something i am keenly aware of and try to reign in because it can be annoying
but one of your very vexatious things is for like, every single controversial issue that affects a group that is not you
your de facto response is
"Yeah but... is this really a problem? I mean, I don't see it happen. I'm not doubting it's existence, guys, I'm just saying... is it really that bad?"
Yes, yes it is, or at the very least we believe it is or we wouldn't be so dang fired up about it, so when you ask that question it never comes across in good faith, it comes across as a way of you shrugging your shoulders and kind of being in denial of the issue or minimizing the outrage because it doesn't affect you or you're not seeing what all the fuss is about.
And I kind of wish you'd just... stop doing that?
Like either take in good faith that people are mad for a reason, or believe that they are not because you have a good reason not to
don't just take a default position of doubting them because you think you ought to.
*coworker walks in* oh hey i forgot my......keys........
Respected developer living in NYC who fled her apartment with her husband due to a very specific, frightening death threat related to gamergate
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so it didn't mean anything about racism when obama got more death threats than normal?
Oh my god this sometimes so much.
i dunno skeletons are super spooky
That's not relevant and you know it.
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I have a tendency to do this as well and I very much appreciate people's patience with me, because it's bad and I don't want to be a guy that does that because too many guys do that
You see the concept of infiltration used in a lot of weird hate speech stuff. Like one of the arguments white supremacists will throw out is that the Jews act as infiltrators for black people. Or Latinos fulfilling the same role. It really does fit into a paranoid mindset where they are looking for potential spies and traitors everywhere.
They are in Fullmetal Alchemist
yeah but they're horrible at infiltrating things because they make rattling noises when they walk
do that many guys really do that
Oh god. I totally tried to sneak one out after everyone left one evening and suddenly one of the tier two guys walks into my cube with an emergency.
I had to apologize so much.
Is doing this really that bad though
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
*vibrates*
there's a skeleton in you right now