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Metal Gear Solid is shit
Yeah. And that after the fact interview did nothing at all to endear me to Koenig or the program.
I love banjos and I love griffin mcelroy
Two great tastes that go great together.
Serial would ha e done good to finish before releasing episodes because I feel that they made poor desicions in favor trying to make it dramatic
NO YOU'RE SHIT!
its in the mail
I sent it DHL so it should be fine
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I really liked Serial
But like, because of its flaws
Because it's a really weird, fucked up thing at times
I found that fascinating
Just not there yet
im here for u
If it was a matter of "I don't like this thing" and other people said "Well, I think it's good, for reasons!", that is fine! That is a discussion about the relative merits of a thing from a perspective we share as people listening to a podcast!
GB discussions tend to generate incredibly detailed refutations of a subjective opinion that really doesn't need a rebuttal. If someone says "I was disappointed that GB didn't cover Evo", that's fine. Disagreeing with that is also fine ("I don't really care about that scene so it doesn't bug me that they skipped it or glossed over it"). When the conversation turns to "well they would get mean comments from fighting game fans" or "maybe Jason was busy" it reads to me like trying to categorically prove it was better that they didn't cover it, or otherwise "justify" the decision, which strikes me as defensive and nonsensical. That's why I used the term "apologism."
I also really don't think I see much of exactly this phenomenon in relation to other podcasts, but again that could be the product of selective reading or memory or whatever.
In conclusion: I apologize for all of my posts.
and to be fair I would probably also be happier if I didn't myself get into arguments when my anxiety is peaking
also I like you too
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yeah i didn't really communicate it eloquently but when i was saying your word choice was needlessly harsh i was actually real concerned that you were working yourself up in a negative way, possibly because it slightly felt like you were being ganged up on
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I can't speak for the rest of those
but Jeff has literally said "we don't do much fighting game coverage because we get shitty comments"
I was pointing out something I remember hearing that might shed light on why they don't do that sort of thing more
Doesn't mean I was trying to 'win' the conversation
I kinda thought that too. But then I kinda think that has to do more with the volume of GB posts compared to other podcasts.
anyone that expected a 'conclusive ending' from serial wasn't really getting what the show was about
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I'm at a point where I'm also pretty tired with cynicism, even if it's exaggerated for laughs. It makes up like 90% of internet culture to the point that legitimately enjoying something without picking it apart is the odd thing to do.
I spent two weeks gushing and waxing nostalgic about Final Fantasy VII, and the people who joined me commented at the end how we almost didn't list any criticisms. I decided, hey, why bother? Everyone else has already made the same old complaints, let's do something wild and crazy and celebrate it!
This is also why I'm enjoying the Best Friends on an almost daily basis. They spend more time getting giddy with over something like Parasite Eve while also being aware that a lot of its mitochondria talk is bullshit. The latter doesn't affect their enjoyment of the former.
*cough cough*
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It is however, still a product of that society and has some of the problems i have with all crime reporting, but i appreciate the very obvious good intentions behind it.
Criticism and critical thinking about a games flaws are extremely important though
and again, not liking something and stating the reasons for that dislike is not cynicism, its being critical or negative about a thing
As I said before, the problems with the crime reporting and the good intentions and all that are a huge part of what appeals to me with it.
I mean, it starts out as a story explaining what happened in this weird cold case with minimal evidence.
But then it becomes the writer of the story becoming overly invested in the case and in the people she's interacting with.
And it's not like they can solve it, they have no way to do that at any point in time, so it's just dealing with the repercussions of our criminal justice system and the basic human natures that we assume of people.
And that is fascinating to me.
It started out as a window into a crime, and then someone turns out the lights and it's suddenly one way glass, and all you can look at, as you're waiting for this crime to end, is your own judgmental, paranoid, suspicious face.
But that's a pretty personal Serial experience I guess, and I don't think that's universal.
I need someone to quote this every page for me if I'm not around.
That's not great.
That is true, if there's a balance.
I rarely see a balance.
I'm especially tired of seeing people be immediately cynical because a thing is A) old,
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But I feel like you could start up an entire new podcast dedicated to investigating how fucked up it was
Okay
I have nothing to add because that doesn't describe anything I've experienced
I don't disagree even a little!
But it's not like the case would have gotten the attention it did otherwise, so it's a thing i feel pretty conflicted about. It's better treated than most cases that get media attention, but there is still the lingering question in my head whether criminal cases should get media attention at all.
But then a pretty flimsy conviction goes through the system, and am i really going to pretend that news isn't treated as entertainment in this society anyway, and yeah it's all pretty fucked up.
I really appreciated Serial and would still freely recommend it to others, but I'd also tell them that The Intercept interview with Jay is a required followup read
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A recent example posted in another thread: http://lparchive.org/Golden-Sun/
Like I'm not saying these opinions are unwarranted or even incorrect (I haven't played this game), but a huge chunk of material coming from that community and many others boils down to "Hey I'm revisiting this old game a lot of people liked and I'm here to tell you it's a piece of shit and we were all stupid for ever liking it!".
It's just a tired routine. No balance there.
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Could you link that?
My parents are currently going through serial
We've also discussed how weird the whole thing is, and how weird the reactions to it are, and so on and so forth. I think that kind of makes it better, because I'm realizing all of the other people I talked to about Serial probably didn't run into that interview with Jay after the fact, and didn't use it as a moment for self reflection regarding what a weird vulture-ish activity listening to this podcast was.
But I still really enjoyed the overall experience, so what can I say?