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[Warframe] It's good to know that we can dream more than once. (U18 is out!)

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    I should really start work on a new gun/frame. I wish I didn't fall so in love with Nyx and Nova, gotta get the primes of them I guess so I can keep using the best abilities

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  • dav3ybdav3yb Registered User regular
    So pilfering swarm is godlike.

    I was pretty low on polymer bundles, so me and some friends went farming. 20 wave defense yielded 7k of them. And a few gallium to top it off.

    My hydroid tentacles only last about 3 seconds, but they pack a push with 230% power str.

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  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    The problem with locking frame rate (or playing at 720p) is that it only hides the problem, rather than fixing it. Sure, it'll get rid of the issue, but it'll be unnecessarily holding the game back because they didn't actually address what was wrong. Unless the problem is literally unfixable, whether because the game would completely fall apart if that happened, or they somehow do not have the means to do it, or whatever else, that's just not acceptable.

    If DE were to start forcing the game to run at 30 FPS just to fix issues like Mesa's Peacemaker DPS being tied to FPS, it'd be incredibly stupid. Perhaps even lazy. I'm pretty sure they fixed the issue of burst weapons DPS being tied to frame rate, so I don't see why they couldn't do the same for Peacemaker.

    Well, I didn't say it would be smart. I just said it would be the simplest solution as there is no easy fix for this, imo. :P

    None of burst weapons have a complex animation attached to them that I'm aware of so divorcing the two wouldn't be as big of a deal. The logic behind them also is simpler. Burst weapons go, "is it in this cone?", or spawn some projectiles. The other is scan the entire line of sight, then randomly pick a target, then deal damage all while keeping up with the animation. So "fix it to work like the guns" when they're doing fundamentally different things is kind of oversimplifying the problem, imo.

    The pacing of the animation at 30FPs and 60FPS to achieve the look of "gunkata rapid motion" are different. I suppose they could make it so Peacemaker only ever does N ticks per second similar to Crush and have the animations go at whatever speeds to maintain that look, but then people would be bothered by that dissonance. This would also massively nerf the ability for everyone in addition to looking terrible.

    Lastly, an example of a specific problem where I would reply to a person "just play at 720p" would be if they had problems running the game at 1080p and they refused to buy new hardware or w/e to actually fix the problem; because the problem lies within the system itself. Sometimes a problem cannot be fixed without putting a limit or cap into place, even if users don't like it.

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    dav3yb wrote: »
    So pilfering swarm is godlike.

    I was pretty low on polymer bundles, so me and some friends went farming. 20 wave defense yielded 7k of them. And a few gallium to top it off.

    My hydroid tentacles only last about 3 seconds, but they pack a push with 230% power str.

    Nekros is still the best for farming materials. Despoiled desecrate is the best. Combine with a greedy pull Mag and someone to do the killing and you never need to move.

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    That said, I just got pilfering swarm for my Hydroid (hell, I just got Hydroid period) and it's rad as fuck.

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  • OrphaneOrphane A black light In the deep blue seaRegistered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    dav3yb wrote: »
    So pilfering swarm is godlike.

    I was pretty low on polymer bundles, so me and some friends went farming. 20 wave defense yielded 7k of them. And a few gallium to top it off.

    My hydroid tentacles only last about 3 seconds, but they pack a push with 230% power str.

    Nekros is still the best for farming materials. Despoiled desecrate is the best. Combine with a greedy pull Mag and someone to do the killing and you never need to move.

    it's just sad when a frame which is supposed to be the bonelord of spooky skellingtons is instead known as the loot guy

  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    I kinda re-themed my nekros as kinda a decomposition/fertilization thing
    y'know, death, breaking down, nutrients ending up in the soil and providing for the living
    not brilliant but I like it better than edgy mcbonelord, and it fits better with how the frame is actually used

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  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    Orphane wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    dav3yb wrote: »
    So pilfering swarm is godlike.

    I was pretty low on polymer bundles, so me and some friends went farming. 20 wave defense yielded 7k of them. And a few gallium to top it off.

    My hydroid tentacles only last about 3 seconds, but they pack a push with 230% power str.

    Nekros is still the best for farming materials. Despoiled desecrate is the best. Combine with a greedy pull Mag and someone to do the killing and you never need to move.

    it's just sad when a frame which is supposed to be the bonelord of spooky skellingtons is instead known as the loot guy

    TBF, the Skellington crew lost a fair bit of credibility after the antics of one Jack Skellington.

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  • OrphaneOrphane A black light In the deep blue seaRegistered User regular
    So my pal Zakesh and I are running some spy vaults on Ceres when

    I, um....

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    hmmm.

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    Long live the rock, I guess?

    Thankfully Loki is OP so I was able to teleport in through a gap in between the doorframe and the giant-ass rock and get to the console, but wow.

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  • FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    After trying out the AkSomati.

    ...Seriously. That this weapon has 20% instead of 25% crit chance is pretty much the difference between being a staple sidearm and a novelty weapon. It's 20%, so it's pretty much a novelty weapon. Not a bad one, but it doesn't quite match other high-tier sidearms in this game.

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  • DreadBertDreadBert Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    dav3yb wrote: »
    So pilfering swarm is godlike.

    I was pretty low on polymer bundles, so me and some friends went farming. 20 wave defense yielded 7k of them. And a few gallium to top it off.

    My hydroid tentacles only last about 3 seconds, but they pack a push with 230% power str.

    Nekros is still the best for farming materials. Despoiled desecrate is the best. Combine with a greedy pull Mag and someone to do the killing and you never need to move.

    That said if you stop picking up loot with carrier, MOVE. Missed wave rewards a couple times last weekend due to some new fangled anti-afk code.

    Soul Survivor really needed to be a trait for soul punch. He was a necromancer that couldn't raise allies from the dead before it and it gives him some purpose beyond loot bot. Though, it would be really rocking if his raise dead summoned shadows of dead party members...

  • KashaarKashaar Low OrbitRegistered User regular
    cB557 wrote: »
    I kinda re-themed my nekros as kinda a decomposition/fertilization thing
    y'know, death, breaking down, nutrients ending up in the soil and providing for the living
    not brilliant but I like it better than edgy mcbonelord, and it fits better with how the frame is actually used

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  • dav3ybdav3yb Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    dav3yb wrote: »
    So pilfering swarm is godlike.

    I was pretty low on polymer bundles, so me and some friends went farming. 20 wave defense yielded 7k of them. And a few gallium to top it off.

    My hydroid tentacles only last about 3 seconds, but they pack a push with 230% power str.

    Nekros is still the best for farming materials. Despoiled desecrate is the best. Combine with a greedy pull Mag and someone to do the killing and you never need to move.

    Except I think you're getting 4x the loot with a max str pilfering swarm. But there isn't any rule against having a nekros and hydroid on a farming team. All the phat lootz.

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  • OrphaneOrphane A black light In the deep blue seaRegistered User regular
    Yeah, I think it's nice that DE has expanded the bonus loot drop to more than one warframe. Hopefully they do it more in the future so people aren't limited to certain comps for max loots.

  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    dav3yb wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    dav3yb wrote: »
    So pilfering swarm is godlike.

    I was pretty low on polymer bundles, so me and some friends went farming. 20 wave defense yielded 7k of them. And a few gallium to top it off.

    My hydroid tentacles only last about 3 seconds, but they pack a push with 230% power str.

    Nekros is still the best for farming materials. Despoiled desecrate is the best. Combine with a greedy pull Mag and someone to do the killing and you never need to move.

    Except I think you're getting 4x the loot with a max str pilfering swarm. But there isn't any rule against having a nekros and hydroid on a farming team. All the phat lootz.

    Are augments effected by your power mods? If they are, I may have to see about getting some power strength on my jetstream zephyr. Gotta go fast!

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  • OrphaneOrphane A black light In the deep blue seaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
    I'm pretty sure most augments are affected by mods unless stated to have a cap on their duration or something like that.

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  • DreadBertDreadBert Registered User regular
    dav3yb wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    dav3yb wrote: »
    So pilfering swarm is godlike.

    I was pretty low on polymer bundles, so me and some friends went farming. 20 wave defense yielded 7k of them. And a few gallium to top it off.

    My hydroid tentacles only last about 3 seconds, but they pack a push with 230% power str.

    Nekros is still the best for farming materials. Despoiled desecrate is the best. Combine with a greedy pull Mag and someone to do the killing and you never need to move.

    Except I think you're getting 4x the loot with a max str pilfering swarm. But there isn't any rule against having a nekros and hydroid on a farming team. All the phat lootz.

    About what level do the tentacles stop reliably killing stuff with that config? I haven't noticed it getting many kills normally.

  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    DreadBert wrote: »
    dav3yb wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    dav3yb wrote: »
    So pilfering swarm is godlike.

    I was pretty low on polymer bundles, so me and some friends went farming. 20 wave defense yielded 7k of them. And a few gallium to top it off.

    My hydroid tentacles only last about 3 seconds, but they pack a push with 230% power str.

    Nekros is still the best for farming materials. Despoiled desecrate is the best. Combine with a greedy pull Mag and someone to do the killing and you never need to move.

    Except I think you're getting 4x the loot with a max str pilfering swarm. But there isn't any rule against having a nekros and hydroid on a farming team. All the phat lootz.

    About what level do the tentacles stop reliably killing stuff with that config? I haven't noticed it getting many kills normally.

    Yeah, that's the only real downside to pilfering swarm is that the tentacles aren't all that powerful. Great CC though, so it's not like you shouldn't use them. If they happen to get kills and extra loot that's just gravy

    And yes, a Nekros desecrating after a pilfering swarm Hydroid would be excellent

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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Nekros desecration after cutting the enemy into a billion tiny pieces with braton prime is excellent.

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    I leveled Dread just for Nekros loot.

    Also the hilarity of a bow somehow cutting a guy into 4 pieces.

    Picked up a Vaykor Marelok. It is love and life.

    Really I just need to find a good melee weapon and I have my default load out finally.

    Been trying glaive. Actually really useful. Throw at enemies, shoot at survivors as it bounces around.

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  • DreadBertDreadBert Registered User regular
    Wait, you can get 4 lootable pieces from one dude?

  • OrphaneOrphane A black light In the deep blue seaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Nekros' Desecrate works on every individual body part that you can slice an enemy into. Therefore, when you're running with a Nekros in survival it's best to use bladed weapons and guns which dismember (Braton P, AkJagara, Dread, etc) to maximize the amount of loot rolls you get from Desecrate.

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  • Citizen KupoCitizen Kupo In between here and thereRegistered User regular
    Reactor/catalyst invasion on Puck, Uranus.

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  • DreadBertDreadBert Registered User regular
    Orphane wrote: »
    Nekros' Desecrate works on every individual body part that you can slice an enemy into. Therefore, when you're running with a Nekros in survival it's best to use bladed weapons and guns which dismember (Braton P, AkJagara, Dread, etc) to maximize the amount of loot rolls you get from Desecrate.

    Oh I get that, folks were talking like you could get more then 2 chunks to loot.

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    Reactor/catalyst invasion on Puck, Uranus.

    hehheh

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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    DreadBert wrote: »
    Orphane wrote: »
    Nekros' Desecrate works on every individual body part that you can slice an enemy into. Therefore, when you're running with a Nekros in survival it's best to use bladed weapons and guns which dismember (Braton P, AkJagara, Dread, etc) to maximize the amount of loot rolls you get from Desecrate.

    Oh I get that, folks were talking like you could get more then 2 chunks to loot.
    @DreadBert
    Ahem.

    Behold. Braton prime. The gibbiest gun in all of warcrime.



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  • Citizen KupoCitizen Kupo In between here and thereRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
    You can, if you use a weapon that's good at chopping mooks up, like Kohm or Braton P. In my experience you can at the very least get 3 chunks consistently.

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  • kralizecckralizecc Registered User regular
    I just kill them, and mow over the corpse field with a tonbo. I usually get at least three and usually more pieces from each kill

  • DreadBertDreadBert Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    DreadBert wrote: »
    Orphane wrote: »
    Nekros' Desecrate works on every individual body part that you can slice an enemy into. Therefore, when you're running with a Nekros in survival it's best to use bladed weapons and guns which dismember (Braton P, AkJagara, Dread, etc) to maximize the amount of loot rolls you get from Desecrate.

    Oh I get that, folks were talking like you could get more then 2 chunks to loot.
    @DreadBert
    Ahem.

    Behold. Braton prime. The gibbiest gun in all of warcrime.

    .snip.

    Any all those chunks are lootable? Time to creatively go hunt some greeneer in the Name of Science, Murder Hobo Power Activate!

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  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    DreadBert wrote: »
    DreadBert wrote: »
    Orphane wrote: »
    Nekros' Desecrate works on every individual body part that you can slice an enemy into. Therefore, when you're running with a Nekros in survival it's best to use bladed weapons and guns which dismember (Braton P, AkJagara, Dread, etc) to maximize the amount of loot rolls you get from Desecrate.

    Oh I get that, folks were talking like you could get more then 2 chunks to loot.
    @DreadBert
    Ahem.

    Behold. Braton prime. The gibbiest gun in all of warcrime.

    .snip.

    Any all those chunks are lootable? Time to creatively go hunt some greeneer in the Name of Science, Murder Hobo Power Activate!
    Indeed they are.

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    Good old hoboframe. Not only do you murder people for profit, you plan out how to cut them into as many tiny pieces as possible to increase profits. Hobo venture capitalism.

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Good old hoboframe. Not only do you murder people for profit, you plan out how to cut them into as many tiny pieces as possible to increase profits. Hobo venture capitalism.

    Terrorist hobos at that.

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  • OrphaneOrphane A black light In the deep blue seaRegistered User regular
    So a miraculous thing happened today

    @alternatingAberration , @Caulk Bite 6 , a friend and I did a t4 interception and walked away with something of value

    Not just one, but count 'em, two, Soma Prime Barrels each.

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Orphane wrote: »
    So a miraculous thing happened today

    @alternatingAberration , @Caulk Bite 6 , a friend and I did a t4 interception and walked away with something of value

    Not just one, but count 'em, two, Soma Prime Barrels each.

    So what was the thing of value?

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  • Caulk Bite 6Caulk Bite 6 One of the multitude of Dans infesting this place Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Darmak wrote: »
    Orphane wrote: »
    So a miraculous thing happened today

    alternatingAberration , "Caulk Bite 6" , a friend and I did a t4 interception and walked away with something of value

    Not just one, but count 'em, two, Soma Prime Barrels each.

    So what was the thing of value?

    ten R5 cores

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  • DreadBertDreadBert Registered User regular
    DreadBert wrote: »
    DreadBert wrote: »
    Orphane wrote: »
    Nekros' Desecrate works on every individual body part that you can slice an enemy into. Therefore, when you're running with a Nekros in survival it's best to use bladed weapons and guns which dismember (Braton P, AkJagara, Dread, etc) to maximize the amount of loot rolls you get from Desecrate.

    Oh I get that, folks were talking like you could get more then 2 chunks to loot.

    Ahem.

    Behold. Braton prime. The gibbiest gun in all of warcrime.



    Any all those chunks are lootable? Time to creatively go hunt some greeneer in the Name of Science, Murder Hobo Power Activate!
    cB557 wrote: »
    DreadBert wrote: »
    DreadBert wrote: »
    Orphane wrote: »
    Nekros' Desecrate works on every individual body part that you can slice an enemy into. Therefore, when you're running with a Nekros in survival it's best to use bladed weapons and guns which dismember (Braton P, AkJagara, Dread, etc) to maximize the amount of loot rolls you get from Desecrate.

    Oh I get that, folks were talking like you could get more then 2 chunks to loot.
    Ahem.

    Behold. Braton prime. The gibbiest gun in all of warcrime.

    .snip.
    .

    Any all those chunks are lootable? Time to creatively go hunt some greeneer in the Name of Science, Murder Hobo Power Activate!
    Indeed they are.

    It seems really screwy that a high status, non-elemental build miter will just arm enemies. Barton P consistently gave me 2-3 lootable pieces with nothing but shred, serration, and multishot, which still baffles me. Max loot for me was three health orbs on several occasions. Only a hundred or so grineer in the sample pool though.

  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    Part of the reason the braton prime dismembers so well is all of its extra dice rolls. You kill the enemy, then the first overkill bullet hits the corpse and cuts it in half, then get second overkill bullet hits a bit and cuts that in half too.


    Miter and dread Imo are more likely to dismember an enemy with any one shot, but the don't have the rof to completely shred things like dual zorens or the Braton prime.

    braton p will gib better if you set it up with an elemental status effect build where slash damage is the most prominent damage type.

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  • DreadBertDreadBert Registered User regular
    Huh, if it works like that dragoon might be really solid for fibbing goodness

  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    DreadBert wrote: »
    Huh, if it works like that dragoon might be really solid for fibbing goodness

    If I remember when I used it a lot way back when, yeah it was.

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  • DiplominatorDiplominator Hardcore Porg Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Part of the reason the braton prime dismembers so well is all of its extra dice rolls. You kill the enemy, then the first overkill bullet hits the corpse and cuts it in half, then get second overkill bullet hits a bit and cuts that in half too.


    Miter and dread Imo are more likely to dismember an enemy with any one shot, but the don't have the rof to completely shred things like dual zorens or the Braton prime.

    braton p will gib better if you set it up with an elemental status effect build where slash damage is the most prominent damage type.

    It's too bad it's pretty difficult to do that without that one Operation-exclusive slashing damage mod. That sounds really rad.

    I still like my non-super-slashy Braton Prime, though.

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