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    Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    Snake Eater Pachinko machine. You must Pull the level to shoot the boss and collect your winnings. Every single time.

    Seriously. Those graphics looked great. I for just a moment thought this was like some crazy HD edition of the game. Then the slot overlay appeared on screen and two thoughts ran through my mind

    1. ....oh no
    2. Jim Sterling is laughing maniacally somewhere for a reason he isn't fully aware of yet.

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    tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    Didn't they announce trademarks for the Big Boss and some other stuff in relation to pachinko to foreshadow this last year?

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    Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    2. Jim Sterling is laughing maniacally somewhere for a reason he isn't fully aware of yet.

    Oh he knows why he's laughing. We all do.
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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Oh right. According to the latest financial report, the only game Konami's bringing to the west in the next year is that soccer game.

    So, yeah. No longer for us, I guess.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    heenato wrote: »
    My favorite thing is that that's most likely being rendered in the Fox engine. So they went through the effort to remake cutscenes from MGS3 in the fox engine just for a pachinko machine.

    That's like 3 layers of petty. It's kinda impressive.


    Snake! You need to remember the basics of CQC. To perform CQC you need to HIT THE LEVER!

    Petty how? They have access to an engine, they have access to an IP, having the prettiest pachislot machine in the building will be good advertisement.

    Like, I get what we don't like konami and all but there's nothing insidious about releasing a pachislot machine in Japan.

    Yeah but Konami has officially called it Kojima Hayter 3000.

    That's definitely petty.

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    Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    Ahahahahaha!

    Sterling...please talk about this Monday! :lol:

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    Brainiac 8 wrote: »
    Ahahahahaha!

    Sterling...please talk about this Monday! :lol:

    there's no doubt that mondays video will end with a new instalment of fuckonami news.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Are Pachinko machines coin operated?

    They should have called it Coin Eater.

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    SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Drez wrote: »
    Are Pachinko machines coin operated?

    They should have called it Coin Eater.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    heenato wrote: »
    My favorite thing is that that's most likely being rendered in the Fox engine. So they went through the effort to remake cutscenes from MGS3 in the fox engine just for a pachinko machine.

    That's like 3 layers of petty. It's kinda impressive.


    Snake! You need to remember the basics of CQC. To perform CQC you need to HIT THE LEVER!

    Petty how? They have access to an engine, they have access to an IP, having the prettiest pachislot machine in the building will be good advertisement.

    Like, I get what we don't like konami and all but there's nothing insidious about releasing a pachislot machine in Japan.

    Well

    There's nothing out of the ordinary about it

    It miiiight still classify as insidious

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    heenato wrote: »
    My favorite thing is that that's most likely being rendered in the Fox engine. So they went through the effort to remake cutscenes from MGS3 in the fox engine just for a pachinko machine.

    That's like 3 layers of petty. It's kinda impressive.


    Snake! You need to remember the basics of CQC. To perform CQC you need to HIT THE LEVER!

    Petty how? They have access to an engine, they have access to an IP, having the prettiest pachislot machine in the building will be good advertisement.

    Like, I get what we don't like konami and all but there's nothing insidious about releasing a pachislot machine in Japan.

    Well

    There's nothing out of the ordinary about it

    It miiiight still classify as insidious

    Well sure, in the way that all gambling is designed to be addicting and separate people from their money, yeah.

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    UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    heenato wrote: »
    My favorite thing is that that's most likely being rendered in the Fox engine. So they went through the effort to remake cutscenes from MGS3 in the fox engine just for a pachinko machine.

    That's like 3 layers of petty. It's kinda impressive.


    Snake! You need to remember the basics of CQC. To perform CQC you need to HIT THE LEVER!

    Petty how? They have access to an engine, they have access to an IP, having the prettiest pachislot machine in the building will be good advertisement.

    Like, I get what we don't like konami and all but there's nothing insidious about releasing a pachislot machine in Japan.

    Well

    There's nothing out of the ordinary about it

    It miiiight still classify as insidious

    Perhaps the same could be said of all gambling.

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    AstaleAstale Registered User regular
    I'm not a fan of Sterling, but I do want to see his reaction to this, given his personal grudge against them.

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    UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    Any move that pisses off Jim Sterling is A-okay in my book

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    Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    Any move that pisses off Jim Sterling is A-okay in my book

    Piss him off? No...news like this makes him horny at this point. On the Jimquisition he is going to be naked. Boglin over his crotch and wearing a Roadhog mask while just laughing as he spits out a POUNDING IT! between giggle fits.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    heenato wrote: »
    My favorite thing is that that's most likely being rendered in the Fox engine. So they went through the effort to remake cutscenes from MGS3 in the fox engine just for a pachinko machine.

    That's like 3 layers of petty. It's kinda impressive.


    Snake! You need to remember the basics of CQC. To perform CQC you need to HIT THE LEVER!

    Petty how? They have access to an engine, they have access to an IP, having the prettiest pachislot machine in the building will be good advertisement.

    Like, I get what we don't like konami and all but there's nothing insidious about releasing a pachislot machine in Japan.

    Well

    There's nothing out of the ordinary about it

    It miiiight still classify as insidious

    Perhaps the same could be said of all gambling.

    But enough talk! Have at you!

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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Astale wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    heenato wrote: »
    My favorite thing is that that's most likely being rendered in the Fox engine. So they went through the effort to remake cutscenes from MGS3 in the fox engine just for a pachinko machine.

    That's like 3 layers of petty. It's kinda impressive.


    Snake! You need to remember the basics of CQC. To perform CQC you need to HIT THE LEVER!

    Petty how? They have access to an engine, they have access to an IP, having the prettiest pachislot machine in the building will be good advertisement.

    Like, I get what we don't like konami and all but there's nothing insidious about releasing a pachislot machine in Japan.

    From all I've read, if the standard is 'in Japan', Konami is a great company which treats it's employees wonderfully.

    I mean, I'm sure the things are super popular and not-at-all hideously tacky, in Japan.


    But I'll still continue to groan at them, since I'm not Japanese, and I'm not in Japan.

    What I mean is it's being made by Japan, for Japan, and will probably never see release outside of Japan. It doesn't affect us in anyway. Like, no one cares when Nintendo puts out yet another Mario themed medal game, and no one cares when Capcom puts out yet another Monster Hunter themed pachislot machine. Why care about this?

    Why care about anything? Nothing is real. Nothing matters!

    We are all nothing more than shadows and dust! SHADOWS AND DUST!

    Oh no, you've sussed out my secret nihilism. Whatever will I do.

    (Conversations work better when you respond to what people are actually saying.)

    To the point: there is no reason for them to care. But they will. Because they can.

    Fair enough. People can get riled up over what they feel like getting riled up over, to each their own. But Konami has three divisions dedicated to pachislot machines and has been making products for that market for over 25 years now. It's just the most business as usual thing possible to me.

    Yeah, it makes sense from a business perspective. Not so much from a fan's perspective, especially among fans who believe that what happened between Konami's leadership and Kojima was entirely one-sided and had nothing to do with the very strong push away from auteurs in game development.

    edit: The whole back and forth with his name being plastered on and off everything speaks to that struggle.

    I'm not sure it does make sense from a business prospective. Apparently, the Silent Hill pachinko machine bombed through the basement. Like, you can pick it up for 50 bucks or some other holy fuck cheap price these days.

    Basically, if my understanding is correct (which, don't get me wrong, I am working from very limited data here), there's not much crossover between Pachinko players (who have their machine already, thank you) and the sort of people who buy games. The license isn't actually selling, especially when, well, Konami has reduced the will-buy-anything-Metal-Gear market.

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    UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    They're not thinking it through enough

    They need to get back in the games business

    Free-to-play Silent Hill and Metal Gear pachinko, now for PS4 and Xbox One

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    ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    So there's a group trying to convince Konami to put all of the Suikoden games on Steam.

    I kind of feel like if they get any response from Konami it's going to be a video of a Konami employee throwing a hard drive with all of their data for the Suikoden series into a fire.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Astale wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    heenato wrote: »
    My favorite thing is that that's most likely being rendered in the Fox engine. So they went through the effort to remake cutscenes from MGS3 in the fox engine just for a pachinko machine.

    That's like 3 layers of petty. It's kinda impressive.


    Snake! You need to remember the basics of CQC. To perform CQC you need to HIT THE LEVER!

    Petty how? They have access to an engine, they have access to an IP, having the prettiest pachislot machine in the building will be good advertisement.

    Like, I get what we don't like konami and all but there's nothing insidious about releasing a pachislot machine in Japan.

    From all I've read, if the standard is 'in Japan', Konami is a great company which treats it's employees wonderfully.

    I mean, I'm sure the things are super popular and not-at-all hideously tacky, in Japan.


    But I'll still continue to groan at them, since I'm not Japanese, and I'm not in Japan.

    What I mean is it's being made by Japan, for Japan, and will probably never see release outside of Japan. It doesn't affect us in anyway. Like, no one cares when Nintendo puts out yet another Mario themed medal game, and no one cares when Capcom puts out yet another Monster Hunter themed pachislot machine. Why care about this?

    Why care about anything? Nothing is real. Nothing matters!

    We are all nothing more than shadows and dust! SHADOWS AND DUST!

    Oh no, you've sussed out my secret nihilism. Whatever will I do.

    (Conversations work better when you respond to what people are actually saying.)

    To the point: there is no reason for them to care. But they will. Because they can.

    Fair enough. People can get riled up over what they feel like getting riled up over, to each their own. But Konami has three divisions dedicated to pachislot machines and has been making products for that market for over 25 years now. It's just the most business as usual thing possible to me.

    Yeah, it makes sense from a business perspective. Not so much from a fan's perspective, especially among fans who believe that what happened between Konami's leadership and Kojima was entirely one-sided and had nothing to do with the very strong push away from auteurs in game development.

    edit: The whole back and forth with his name being plastered on and off everything speaks to that struggle.

    I'm not sure it does make sense from a business prospective. Apparently, the Silent Hill pachinko machine bombed through the basement. Like, you can pick it up for 50 bucks or some other holy fuck cheap price these days.

    Basically, if my understanding is correct (which, don't get me wrong, I am working from very limited data here), there's not much crossover between Pachinko players (who have their machine already, thank you) and the sort of people who buy games. The license isn't actually selling, especially when, well, Konami has reduced the will-buy-anything-Metal-Gear market.

    Not trying to be rude here but that isn't really how pachinko machines work. I really don't know what you mean by pachinko players already have their machine, for example. You as a person don't own a pachinko machine, they are like slot machines, pachinko parlors own pachinko machines, like a vegas casino owns a slot machine. I mean, yes, you can get old second hand machines if you want to, and sometimes you'll see them in random bars here and there in Japan. But if you aren't at a pachinko parlor, you aren't actually gambling, and you aren't really playing pachinko.

    If you were trying to say that pachinko players have their "one machine" that they go to that isn't right either. Pachinko machines have variable odds. If the machine hasn't paid out for a while, it becomes more likely to pay out, if it has paid out recently, it is less likely to pay out. And for the record this isn't the gambler's fallacy at work here, they are coded this way. New machines haven't ever paid out, and therefore are very likely to pay out, and therefore get very large lines of people when a new machine hits. Further, you can have a pachinko machine tell you how much its paid out recently. Serious pachinko players will keep notes, this machine paid out big a few days ago, hasn't paid out at all the last couple days, I'm going to get in line first thing in the morning tomorrow and camp this machine for the whole day.

    Why'd the silent hill machine bomb? Can't say, lack of interest in the IP, bad mechanics, bad payout, etc. Could have bombed for a lot of different reasons. I don't think there is a lack of crossover between people that buy games and people that play pachislots. About half of the pachislots I saw come out while I was in Japan were for videogames or anime, and about the other half were for pop stuff like AKB48.

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    Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Astale wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    heenato wrote: »
    My favorite thing is that that's most likely being rendered in the Fox engine. So they went through the effort to remake cutscenes from MGS3 in the fox engine just for a pachinko machine.

    That's like 3 layers of petty. It's kinda impressive.


    Snake! You need to remember the basics of CQC. To perform CQC you need to HIT THE LEVER!

    Petty how? They have access to an engine, they have access to an IP, having the prettiest pachislot machine in the building will be good advertisement.

    Like, I get what we don't like konami and all but there's nothing insidious about releasing a pachislot machine in Japan.

    From all I've read, if the standard is 'in Japan', Konami is a great company which treats it's employees wonderfully.

    I mean, I'm sure the things are super popular and not-at-all hideously tacky, in Japan.


    But I'll still continue to groan at them, since I'm not Japanese, and I'm not in Japan.

    What I mean is it's being made by Japan, for Japan, and will probably never see release outside of Japan. It doesn't affect us in anyway. Like, no one cares when Nintendo puts out yet another Mario themed medal game, and no one cares when Capcom puts out yet another Monster Hunter themed pachislot machine. Why care about this?

    Because Nintendo and Capcom haven't stopped making console games.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Astale wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    heenato wrote: »
    My favorite thing is that that's most likely being rendered in the Fox engine. So they went through the effort to remake cutscenes from MGS3 in the fox engine just for a pachinko machine.

    That's like 3 layers of petty. It's kinda impressive.


    Snake! You need to remember the basics of CQC. To perform CQC you need to HIT THE LEVER!

    Petty how? They have access to an engine, they have access to an IP, having the prettiest pachislot machine in the building will be good advertisement.

    Like, I get what we don't like konami and all but there's nothing insidious about releasing a pachislot machine in Japan.

    From all I've read, if the standard is 'in Japan', Konami is a great company which treats it's employees wonderfully.

    I mean, I'm sure the things are super popular and not-at-all hideously tacky, in Japan.


    But I'll still continue to groan at them, since I'm not Japanese, and I'm not in Japan.

    What I mean is it's being made by Japan, for Japan, and will probably never see release outside of Japan. It doesn't affect us in anyway. Like, no one cares when Nintendo puts out yet another Mario themed medal game, and no one cares when Capcom puts out yet another Monster Hunter themed pachislot machine. Why care about this?

    People wouldn't care if Konami hasn't just spent nearly two whole years of fucking Kojima and alll its other employees and handling a transition out of console gaming about as badly as a company could short of physically going into houses and shitting on their old copies of Castlevania. But because they did, this is definitely the insult to injury.

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    I'm just confused at the apparent shock and outrage.

    Video game company announces they're leaving the video game market and going all in on pachinko machines. They've already made 2 machines based on previous IP's.

    And then... and then...

    They made another pachinko machine based on an IP.

    What a tweest!
    In case you didn't get the memo, they make pachinko machines now based on Konami IP's.

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    LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    We can still be sad and annoyed that some great franchises are going down the cruddy gambling hole. I don't think anyone's actually surprised.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    The weird thing is that we have a Konami thread at all

    I guess pachislot could very loosely be described as a video game though

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    tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Astale wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    heenato wrote: »
    My favorite thing is that that's most likely being rendered in the Fox engine. So they went through the effort to remake cutscenes from MGS3 in the fox engine just for a pachinko machine.

    That's like 3 layers of petty. It's kinda impressive.


    Snake! You need to remember the basics of CQC. To perform CQC you need to HIT THE LEVER!

    Petty how? They have access to an engine, they have access to an IP, having the prettiest pachislot machine in the building will be good advertisement.

    Like, I get what we don't like konami and all but there's nothing insidious about releasing a pachislot machine in Japan.

    From all I've read, if the standard is 'in Japan', Konami is a great company which treats it's employees wonderfully.

    I mean, I'm sure the things are super popular and not-at-all hideously tacky, in Japan.


    But I'll still continue to groan at them, since I'm not Japanese, and I'm not in Japan.

    What I mean is it's being made by Japan, for Japan, and will probably never see release outside of Japan. It doesn't affect us in anyway. Like, no one cares when Nintendo puts out yet another Mario themed medal game, and no one cares when Capcom puts out yet another Monster Hunter themed pachislot machine. Why care about this?

    Why care about anything? Nothing is real. Nothing matters!

    We are all nothing more than shadows and dust! SHADOWS AND DUST!

    Oh no, you've sussed out my secret nihilism. Whatever will I do.

    (Conversations work better when you respond to what people are actually saying.)

    To the point: there is no reason for them to care. But they will. Because they can.

    Fair enough. People can get riled up over what they feel like getting riled up over, to each their own. But Konami has three divisions dedicated to pachislot machines and has been making products for that market for over 25 years now. It's just the most business as usual thing possible to me.

    Yeah, it makes sense from a business perspective. Not so much from a fan's perspective, especially among fans who believe that what happened between Konami's leadership and Kojima was entirely one-sided and had nothing to do with the very strong push away from auteurs in game development.

    edit: The whole back and forth with his name being plastered on and off everything speaks to that struggle.

    I'm not sure it does make sense from a business prospective. Apparently, the Silent Hill pachinko machine bombed through the basement. Like, you can pick it up for 50 bucks or some other holy fuck cheap price these days.

    Basically, if my understanding is correct (which, don't get me wrong, I am working from very limited data here), there's not much crossover between Pachinko players (who have their machine already, thank you) and the sort of people who buy games. The license isn't actually selling, especially when, well, Konami has reduced the will-buy-anything-Metal-Gear market.

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Do the IPs really improve the profitability of the pachinko machines, though? I wonder if it really works out better for them than just going to Sony or Microsoft and offering to let them buy some of the biggest IPs for all the money. Okay, not all. A sizable percentage of the money.

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    klemming wrote: »
    Do the IPs really improve the profitability of the pachinko machines, though? I wonder if it really works out better for them than just going to Sony or Microsoft and offering to let them buy some of the biggest IPs for all the money. Okay, not all. A sizable percentage of the money.

    I don't imagine it hurts. If I were in a casino, staring at the rows of slot machines all indistinguishable from one another, and then were to spot say a MGS themed one? Given who I am and what my hobby is, I would absolutely gravitate towards that one.

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    El FantasticoEl Fantastico Toronto, ONRegistered User regular
    It definitely can't hurt. I was at Casino Niagara recently with some friends over the holiday weekend and for the 90 minutes we spent there, at least half of it was wandering the floor looking at the rows and circles of slot machines.

    If you were in a mood to waste money, which machines would you gravitate towards?

    To the left, you have a bunch of generic looking slots. Random named games like Buffalo Moon, Jewels of the Oasis, Smokin' 7 Guns, and Hot Girl Slots.

    To the right, you have slots based on familiar but old IPs such as Wheel of Fortune and Big Bang Theory.

    Behind you lie Britney Spears video slots, and ahead of you lies arguably the hottest game on the floor, Game of Thrones. A towering monstronsity with 4 seats, lights and music blaring, the crispest hi-res video and wheels spinning that don't look like they make any sense to you, but damn it, your spin just cost you 50 credits and things lined up and you just won 200 credits. No joke, the seniors were emptying their retirements into this thing at breakneck speed, and their friends were all just standing around watching and gawking because omg so pretty.

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    BRIAN BLESSEDBRIAN BLESSED Maybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHH Registered User regular
    People who play videogames are already spending large amounts of money to actually play them so unless they're living and breathing the IPs they buy (which is to be fair probably some small population out there) I don't see the average person going to a casino and seeing those machines as anything more than a novelty, unless they were into gambling in the first place

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    People who play videogames are already spending large amounts of money to actually play them so unless they're living and breathing the IPs they buy (which is to be fair probably some small population out there) I don't see the average person going to a casino and seeing those machines as anything more than a novelty, unless they were into gambling in the first place

    You're sort of assuming people would specifically go to a casino to specifically play a machine. That's never going to happen, nor is that the point.

    It's just a way to get noticed and differentiate yourself from the others. In a sea of this:

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    I'd probably glaze over 99% of those, but a video game themed one would catch my eye. Likewise for somebody else they glaze over the video game themed machines and it's a game show one that catches their eye.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    People who play videogames are already spending large amounts of money to actually play them so unless they're living and breathing the IPs they buy (which is to be fair probably some small population out there) I don't see the average person going to a casino and seeing those machines as anything more than a novelty, unless they were into gambling in the first place

    You're sort of assuming people would specifically go to a casino to specifically play a machine. That's never going to happen, nor is that the point.

    That happens all the time, point or not. Anecdotal, but I personally know a number of people that go to specific casinos (in Atlantic City) to play specific machines. I'm willing to bet that that is far more common than you think (certainly more common than "never").

    The reason is usually more about payout or game mechanics rather than theme or aesthetic, though I do know someone that always tries to get in front of one of the newish 3D slot machine both because of the format and the aesthetic.

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Even so, I'd think they'd get more brand recognition if there were still games being produced for these IPs. Even if they keep hold of it to put on their pachinko machines, I can't see a downside to letting someone else make a game with them.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Video games were not how Konami was making money even when they were making video games.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    klemming wrote: »
    Even so, I'd think they'd get more brand recognition if there were still games being produced for these IPs. Even if they keep hold of it to put on their pachinko machines, I can't see a downside to letting someone else make a game with them.

    We're talking about a biz that puts out slot machines based on the Wonder Woman TV show and Popeye. Continued representation of the brand elsewhere really doesn't matter.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    All that matters is you recognize the property

    Even Popeye slots are going to stand out more than Action Treasure Cash Payout Bonanza

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    BursarBursar Hee Noooo! PDX areaRegistered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    All that matters is you recognize the property

    Even Popeye slots are going to stand out more than Action Treasure Cash Payout Bonanza

    This is true. If you walk into any slot-heavy casino in Vegas, you'll find no-name machines with themes like "Ancient Egypt" or "Frogs" or whatever all over the place, but the biggest and loudest ones are always the Wheel of Fortune slots.

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    ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    I had a conference in Vegas last year, but since I was only there for less than a day, I wandered the casino floor for an hour after I arrived before I went upstairs to crash. The slots section was exactly as described, and while I didn't have any cash on me (or an interest in paying the fees they were charging to load up a card, plus the exchange rate), the Lord of the Rings machines caught my eye. There was a baffling amount of crap going on with those things. Just lines being drawn and video clips and lights and noise.

    I could see the appeal, and also knew why I needed to stay the fuck away from them.

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