That's how they're unfolding for me, silence; I'm going through the content of each update. I don't have a say in the matter I can do elites as the classics are finished, of course.
Well, you could ignore Elite Dungeons until you run out of Classics.
I tried that for a long time, then realized what I was missing by not doing elites, especially as even the normal dungeons reached into the 90s in difficulty. The VAST majority of your greater/major black/white/power orbs come from elites, with classics only giving 3*. It makes it much easier to create/hone a lot of the spells you need to clear the more difficult encounters.
fuuuuck got soulcage to half and was going fine and 2 attacks in a row hit wakka and just barely killed him before i could heal since i was mid-rebuff for 50%. curse this fighttttt
edit: yes got over the 50% hump finally. 3 more attempts flamed out while trying to rebuff ~50 but my team pulled through even when i mishit the refresh on advance because i'm a dummy. got good rng with blinded attacks and lack of fira.
i need to get more auto-haste rms, it's incredibly useful for fights full of bullshit like this. even just the one probably doubled the number of useful attempts i had.
fuuuuck got soulcage to half and was going fine and 2 attacks in a row hit wakka and just barely killed him before i could heal since i was mid-rebuff for 50%. curse this fighttttt
edit: yes got over the 50% hump finally. 3 more attempts flamed out while trying to rebuff ~50 but my team pulled through even when i mishit the refresh on advance because i'm a dummy. got good rng with blinded attacks and lack of fira.
i need to get more auto-haste rms, it's incredibly useful for fights full of bullshit like this. even just the one probably doubled the number of useful attempts i had.
I'm assuming you already have Zidane's then. Find Luneth in whichever FFIII dungeon he drops in, and throw eggs at him until he's 50. He's got the second one. You won't get the third until they give us Balthier again.
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Rift of Recollection is supposedly coming around Christmas, that might be your best chance at a 3rd Auto-haste for a while.
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Its tough, looking at the spreadsheets, Aerith, Rinoa, and Paladin Cecil never get a MC1 again. So they are must picks.
Also Magic Hammer *expletive deleted*
Does it really need to scale with hones?!?
fuuuuck got soulcage to half and was going fine and 2 attacks in a row hit wakka and just barely killed him before i could heal since i was mid-rebuff for 50%. curse this fighttttt
edit: yes got over the 50% hump finally. 3 more attempts flamed out while trying to rebuff ~50 but my team pulled through even when i mishit the refresh on advance because i'm a dummy. got good rng with blinded attacks and lack of fira.
i need to get more auto-haste rms, it's incredibly useful for fights full of bullshit like this. even just the one probably doubled the number of useful attempts i had.
I'm assuming you already have Zidane's then. Find Luneth in whichever FFIII dungeon he drops in, and throw eggs at him until he's 50. He's got the second one. You won't get the third until they give us Balthier again.
I have luneth at 50, I just don't have his crystal yet. And yes I have Zidanes.
The MC's are the only place I'm tight, choice wise, for the MC event.
The only characters that will have been available in Global that I won't have (or that aren't readily available via story dungeons) are Balthier and Warrior, so I guess eggs for the other 2?
The only MC's that will have been available I won't have are Balthier, P.Cecil, D.Cecil, Garnet, Tidus, and Yuna. I guess if they make Edward available (since they skipped the event he and Mog were supposed to get them), it makes it a bit tougher, but my MC's will probably be Balthier, P.Cecil, Garnet and Tidus. Yuna is coming again in January (as is Tidus, but his MC2 will be in the event, so I'll get the MC too), D.Cecil is coming in Feb, and I never use him anyway. Garnet is coming back Feb-ish too, but I'd rather just get her now
So yeah, as long as they don't introduce any unexpected MC's in the event, I should be good to go with my choices.
Anyway, I'm finally getting around to the IX EX battles and holy fuck soulcage.
There hasn't been a completely RNG based boss like this in an event in a couple months. What a bunch of horseshit. Basically, get up shellga/protectga/blind, and any break/downs before he attacks (or hope he uses mustard bomb) or just s/l. And even then, it's still entirely luck on whether or not his attacks just ignore the fact he's blinded or he feels like spamming fira, and by spamming I mean uses it twice, since even fully protect/shell'd and fully broken, fira (and leaf swirl/blast wave) still do 1-1.5k to everyone.
It's really too bad there are such useful major orbs as rewards because man. Otherwise fuck this.
And honestly I'm not seeing a viable way of mastering it short of spending hours s/l'ing for the perfect sequence of abilities/misses.
It feels like this fight was set up assuming you're bringing your own SG/SSII, and otherwise fuck you.
If I bring several WHM's to pump out the cures (for firas and the occasional hit from the physical attacks) and SG, I can't do enough damage; cures on him as damage are pitiful, retaliate without advance is pretty crappy, and warrior of lights RM for holy damage only applies to attack, not retaliates or any other abilities. Zidane is dead weight, once he gets off blind he's pretty much useless as he doesn't do much damage and doesn't have that great of a skill selection otherwise.
I might retry with the 3 whm's and advance instead of sg; but that would rely on soulcage rarely using fira, and the 3whm's would be doing nothing but pumping out cures non-stop. It'd be up to zidane and cloud, basically, to do damage. Which isn't ideal either.
What a shitty shitty fight. It's not even hard, it's just utter bullshit luck.
Its tough, looking at the spreadsheets, Aerith, Rinoa, and Paladin Cecil never get a MC1 again. So they are must picks.
Is this a thing a new player needs to know wtf you're talking about?
To get past level 50 you need a Memory Crystal 1, some of which you get from regular story dungeons, but most of which come from events (there's a MC2 to get past level 65). We're about 5 months behind Japan so we can see who is coming up and who won't be back for half a year. The next event gives 4 blank crystals that you can use on anyone for the first Memory Crystal, so using it on people that you have missed and haven't ever come back in Japan is the best bet.
And honestly I'm not seeing a viable way of mastering it short of spending hours s/l'ing for the perfect sequence of abilities/misses.
It feels like this fight was set up assuming you're bringing your own SG/SSII, and otherwise fuck you.
If I bring several WHM's to pump out the cures (for firas and the occasional hit from the physical attacks) and SG, I can't do enough damage; cures on him as damage are pitiful, retaliate without advance is pretty crappy, and warrior of lights RM for holy damage only applies to attack, not retaliates or any other abilities. Zidane is dead weight, once he gets off blind he's pretty much useless as he doesn't do much damage and doesn't have that great of a skill selection otherwise.
I might retry with the 3 whm's and advance instead of sg; but that would rely on soulcage rarely using fira, and the 3whm's would be doing nothing but pumping out cures non-stop. It'd be up to zidane and cloud, basically, to do damage. Which isn't ideal either.
What a shitty shitty fight. It's not even hard, it's just utter bullshit luck.
I used the build someone posted earlier tweaked a bit.
Vanille: Protectga/Blindga RM: Double Hit
Eiko: Curaga/Shellga RM: Thief's Code
Wakka: Full Break/Magic Breakdown RM: Defensive whatever
Zidane: Tempo Flurry/Steal Power RM: Defensive whatever
Cloud: Retaliate/Armor Break RM: SOLDIER Strike
RW: Advance
as long as it didn't fira too many times in a row, it was fairly effective. took me 5 tries past the opening seconds, but mostly due to some screw ups and bad luck. had no synergy outside of vivi's staff i dumped on Eiko just because.
And honestly I'm not seeing a viable way of mastering it short of spending hours s/l'ing for the perfect sequence of abilities/misses.
It feels like this fight was set up assuming you're bringing your own SG/SSII, and otherwise fuck you.
If I bring several WHM's to pump out the cures (for firas and the occasional hit from the physical attacks) and SG, I can't do enough damage; cures on him as damage are pitiful, retaliate without advance is pretty crappy, and warrior of lights RM for holy damage only applies to attack, not retaliates or any other abilities. Zidane is dead weight, once he gets off blind he's pretty much useless as he doesn't do much damage and doesn't have that great of a skill selection otherwise.
I might retry with the 3 whm's and advance instead of sg; but that would rely on soulcage rarely using fira, and the 3whm's would be doing nothing but pumping out cures non-stop. It'd be up to zidane and cloud, basically, to do damage. Which isn't ideal either.
What a shitty shitty fight. It's not even hard, it's just utter bullshit luck.
I used the build someone posted earlier tweaked a bit.
Vanille: Protectga/Blindga RM: Double Hit
Eiko: Curaga/Shellga RM: Thief's Code
Wakka: Full Break/Magic Breakdown RM: Defensive whatever
Zidane: Tempo Flurry/Steal Power RM: Defensive whatever
Cloud: Retaliate/Armor Break RM: SOLDIER Strike
RW: Advance
as long as it didn't fira too many times in a row, it was fairly effective. took me 5 tries past the opening seconds, but mostly due to some screw ups and bad luck. had no synergy outside of vivi's staff i dumped on Eiko just because.
My setup:
Cloud: Firaga Blade (this was a backup to burst his last bit of life if needed, did not use) / Retaliate (Haste RM)
Zidane: Double Hit / Steal Power (Sword+ RM)
Red XIII: Magic Breakdown / Mental Breakdown (Note: I do have the 5 star pin) (Mako Might RM)
Hope: Diaga / Shellga (Magic Damage+ RM, a weakness targeter would have been even better probably)
Vanille: Curaga / Blindga (Haste RM)
Advance RW
As you can see, there's some not the best choice abilities in there and I didn't really use Synergy. Red XIII's pin is the only unusual bit of equipment in use (Vanille's special limits that I have both of were nice, but completely inessential). I even left Zidane and Red XIII in the front row. It is doable!
Funny story about this party set up though. I had everything prepared... and then realized I had never broken Red's limit. After some research, I realized I was four dungeons away still. So I rushed through those and then waited for the next day on stamina. That day, classic + elite to break his limit (all so he could have Mako Might for the fight). Championed the fight this evening finally.
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Got very lucky on Jenova Life Elite and didn't need to S/L. She cast reflect near the end of the battle but Auron in a rare display of critical default SB managed to hold her off one more turn until she died.
And honestly I'm not seeing a viable way of mastering it short of spending hours s/l'ing for the perfect sequence of abilities/misses.
It feels like this fight was set up assuming you're bringing your own SG/SSII, and otherwise fuck you.
If I bring several WHM's to pump out the cures (for firas and the occasional hit from the physical attacks) and SG, I can't do enough damage; cures on him as damage are pitiful, retaliate without advance is pretty crappy, and warrior of lights RM for holy damage only applies to attack, not retaliates or any other abilities. Zidane is dead weight, once he gets off blind he's pretty much useless as he doesn't do much damage and doesn't have that great of a skill selection otherwise.
I might retry with the 3 whm's and advance instead of sg; but that would rely on soulcage rarely using fira, and the 3whm's would be doing nothing but pumping out cures non-stop. It'd be up to zidane and cloud, basically, to do damage. Which isn't ideal either.
What a shitty shitty fight. It's not even hard, it's just utter bullshit luck.
the fight is far easier with either an aoe heal or your own SG.
I killed him twice just to see if he would drop anything useful (nope)
if you have neither, IMO you need to have:
Blind, protecga, shellga, magic bd, curaga/ja possibly full break and sg/ssII RW
so right there is 6 skills out of your 10 allowed which really limits your choices to retaliate without advance. bringing boost, doublecut and armor break.
if you have a better boost like PP or HotE, that helps too.
Kind of loving Monks, or at least Kick, at the moment. Easy to hone with uses comparable to white spells. A quick boost ensures a complete wipe, or at least one extra attack. Having 3 Haste RMs is helping tons in this scenario.
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So I cleared Jenova LIFE and DEATH elite, but I cannot get through this schizo fight.
I have him magic broken and shellga up and when they die they both hit for 1-2.5k aoe. Is it physical?
Thank you RNGesus! Kimarhi finally dropped his RM2 after a month and a half of daily dungeons, classic/elite event battles and easy story missions. At half a level from 65 he was getting close to me benching him on priciple.
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Cloud was the only survivor against Schizo, which meant I got my first novice rating, which means I get to do it again.
Maybe I've just gone as far as my crap gear can take me. Very frustrating.
So I cleared Jenova LIFE and DEATH elite, but I cannot get through this schizo fight.
I have him magic broken and shellga up and when they die they both hit for 1-2.5k aoe. Is it physical?
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edited December 2015
No, I was worried about the battle dragging out so I took Advance. Is that another 50% less damage?
Hmm. Maybe I'll try swapping things around a bit and trying with that.
So I cleared Jenova LIFE and DEATH elite, but I cannot get through this schizo fight.
I have him magic broken and shellga up and when they die they both hit for 1-2.5k aoe. Is it physical?
It's magic, but the head clears debuffs before it does the AOE, including break(down)s. So you are going to want to heal up, stack res buffs, and/or have some of your guys defend when one of the heads is going to drop.
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That's obnoxious. Thanks for posting that. How did we figure out it clears its debuffs before casting? I wonder if its time to bring Celes. Her SB stacks with shellga too right?
That's obnoxious. Thanks for posting that. How did we figure out it clears its debuffs before casting? I wonder if its time to bring Celes. Her SB stacks with shellga too right?
Celes' Runic Blade SB only nullifies certain single-target spells and converts them into charges, I don't think anything Schizo does would be affected by it.
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Oh I meant her default, it says it raises resistance.
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Oh. I would guess that it does not stack. Usually for two different buffs to stack, they have to apply to different groups of stats. Boost (+ATK) stacks with Advance (+ATK/-DEF) but not with Planet Protector (+ATK). So Magic Shield (+RES) shouldn't stack with Shellga (+RES)
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That's obnoxious. Thanks for posting that. How did we figure out it clears its debuffs before casting? I wonder if its time to bring Celes. Her SB stacks with shellga too right?
Celes' Runic Blade SB only nullifies certain single-target spells and converts them into charges, I don't think anything Schizo does would be affected by it.
Magic Shield however ups Res (P.Cecil's rampart does an equivilant Res up AND Def up, not sure if it stacks with Magic Shield) Stoneskin/SG reduce damage to 1/3 of what would be so 66.6%. If you have the hones/power to finish the fight with out advance then those would probably be the better RW to survive the fight, though you'd be in danger of losing out mastery to damage/action taken.
Edit: Either Magic Shield or Rampart DO stack with Shellga and/or SG Stoneskin
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Actually the point is moot since Celes can't breakdown or support and Cecil can't run Mako Might.
Well I've been looking for an excuse to hone Ruinga to R3.
As Savant mentioned, Shellga + defending works for the attacks on death. I used advantaliate to kill him, but I needed to use my highest level characters for their HP values and such. You might always consider coming back when you have a little more gear or higher level characters, those can both help.
Any FFVII synergy gear you have can help as well. If you've been playing for a month or so, you might have the Gold Sword which is good for retaliation. Otherwise, give any resistance gear to everyone on your team and have their accessories be +hp or +res if possible.
You could consider bringing Kirin to the fight for AE regen, or looking at Renewing Cure instead of Curaga for the regen to heal up before you kill each head. I think I brought haste to help with speeding up healing use as well.
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Thanks everyone, managed to get the Gold Chocobo there.
I did Cloud Retaliate Magic Break
Lenna Shellga Curaga
Wakka Boost Magic Breakdown
Rydia Ruinga Meteor
Vaan Armor Breakdown Double Cut
Magic broke both heads on my first turn as well as put shellga up. They compensated by casting Quakera every turn. Took a beating on my medals but no one died so that's +3 medals and I got expert/Master. I guess I didn't really expect that thing to be so hard, Classic mode was very easy while the Jenovas were godawful S/L fests.
I thought about Kirin, but the regen from that just doesn't seem to keep up with aoe damage at all anymore.
Thanks everyone, managed to get the Gold Chocobo there.
I did Cloud Retaliate Magic Break
Lenna Shellga Curaga
Wakka Boost Magic Breakdown
Rydia Ruinga Meteor
Vaan Armor Breakdown Double Cut
Magic broke both heads on my first turn as well as put shellga up. They compensated by casting Quakera every turn. Took a beating on my medals but no one died so that's +3 medals and I got expert/Master. I guess I didn't really expect that thing to be so hard, Classic mode was very easy while the Jenovas were godawful S/L fests.
I thought about Kirin, but the regen from that just doesn't seem to keep up with aoe damage at all anymore.
Most of the time I only use Kirin for fights where I rely on carbuncle or where I take no healing with me because I plan to blitz down a boss. Sometimes though, it can make enough of a difference while a dedicated healer keeps everyone alive.
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For a fight like that I'd be tempted to make Renewing Cure.
For a fight like that I'd be tempted to make Renewing Cure.
I've been using renewing cure almost exclusively instead of curaga these days, especially with dragoon's determination RM. The mathcraft says that as long as you have at least 200 MND on the caster and get at least 3 regen ticks (I think 3), this becomes a better heal than curaga over time.
Of course, this is provided that next attack doesn't kill you before the regen ticks or anything.
well damn.... 100 gem draw gave me lulu's hairpin..
it looks like my mage team is going to be:
eiko with her flute as summoner/WM2
Lulu with hairpin as BM1
y'shtola with thyrus as WM1
and a choice of either
ViVi with oak staff
Rinoa with Valkyrie
Hope with his boomerang
or any other BM
I only have barret and irvines weapon as far as supports go but I could throw one of them in with full break and mental break too
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That is an insane amount character specific mage gear.
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That is an insane amount of relics period.
Also hooray for new classic dungeons! I can put off the scary elites for longer.
That is an insane amount character specific mage gear.
I have:
Lightning's sword (one from the lightning banner, one from hope's banner, one from lucky draw during orbfest)
Irvine's gun (lucky draw)
vaan's dagger (from XII event)
yoshimitsu (from XIVevent)
seifer's sword (from pulling for cutting trigger)
Auron's katana (from X event)
Kimahri's spear (from X event)
sabin's fist (from my first pull in VI event)
Barret's gun (from pulling for organics)
P.Cecil's Shield (lucky draw)
edit: forgot gold armor for Leon from sb fest
Rinoa's Valkyrie (pulling for cutting trigger)
vivi's staff (sb fest)
garnet's staff (lucky draw)
Thyrus (from XIV event)
Golem flute (IX event)
hope's boomerang (Hope's event)
aerith's ribbon (100 gem on organics)
lulu's hairpin (just now)
edit: forgot lenna's staff from the V event
Yeah I've actually got a good amount of Mage gear myself. Rune staff, Storm Staff, Sleipnir's Tail, Mystral Staff, Valkyrie, Rising Sun, Full Metal Staff, and Cyclone Grimoire (which I never use because of no Synergy) and Evoker's Horn, Defense Veil and Witch's Hat for armor. Then there's my Dragon Armlet ++ and Dragon Gauntlet that are just baller and add 20 Magic as well as Attack
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I tried that for a long time, then realized what I was missing by not doing elites, especially as even the normal dungeons reached into the 90s in difficulty. The VAST majority of your greater/major black/white/power orbs come from elites, with classics only giving 3*. It makes it much easier to create/hone a lot of the spells you need to clear the more difficult encounters.
edit: yes got over the 50% hump finally. 3 more attempts flamed out while trying to rebuff ~50 but my team pulled through even when i mishit the refresh on advance because i'm a dummy. got good rng with blinded attacks and lack of fira.
i need to get more auto-haste rms, it's incredibly useful for fights full of bullshit like this. even just the one probably doubled the number of useful attempts i had.
I'm assuming you already have Zidane's then. Find Luneth in whichever FFIII dungeon he drops in, and throw eggs at him until he's 50. He's got the second one. You won't get the third until they give us Balthier again.
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Does it really need to scale with hones?!?
I have luneth at 50, I just don't have his crystal yet. And yes I have Zidanes.
The only characters that will have been available in Global that I won't have (or that aren't readily available via story dungeons) are Balthier and Warrior, so I guess eggs for the other 2?
The only MC's that will have been available I won't have are Balthier, P.Cecil, D.Cecil, Garnet, Tidus, and Yuna. I guess if they make Edward available (since they skipped the event he and Mog were supposed to get them), it makes it a bit tougher, but my MC's will probably be Balthier, P.Cecil, Garnet and Tidus. Yuna is coming again in January (as is Tidus, but his MC2 will be in the event, so I'll get the MC too), D.Cecil is coming in Feb, and I never use him anyway. Garnet is coming back Feb-ish too, but I'd rather just get her now
So yeah, as long as they don't introduce any unexpected MC's in the event, I should be good to go with my choices.
Anyway, I'm finally getting around to the IX EX battles and holy fuck soulcage.
There hasn't been a completely RNG based boss like this in an event in a couple months. What a bunch of horseshit. Basically, get up shellga/protectga/blind, and any break/downs before he attacks (or hope he uses mustard bomb) or just s/l. And even then, it's still entirely luck on whether or not his attacks just ignore the fact he's blinded or he feels like spamming fira, and by spamming I mean uses it twice, since even fully protect/shell'd and fully broken, fira (and leaf swirl/blast wave) still do 1-1.5k to everyone.
It's really too bad there are such useful major orbs as rewards because man. Otherwise fuck this.
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And honestly I'm not seeing a viable way of mastering it short of spending hours s/l'ing for the perfect sequence of abilities/misses.
It feels like this fight was set up assuming you're bringing your own SG/SSII, and otherwise fuck you.
If I bring several WHM's to pump out the cures (for firas and the occasional hit from the physical attacks) and SG, I can't do enough damage; cures on him as damage are pitiful, retaliate without advance is pretty crappy, and warrior of lights RM for holy damage only applies to attack, not retaliates or any other abilities. Zidane is dead weight, once he gets off blind he's pretty much useless as he doesn't do much damage and doesn't have that great of a skill selection otherwise.
I might retry with the 3 whm's and advance instead of sg; but that would rely on soulcage rarely using fira, and the 3whm's would be doing nothing but pumping out cures non-stop. It'd be up to zidane and cloud, basically, to do damage. Which isn't ideal either.
What a shitty shitty fight. It's not even hard, it's just utter bullshit luck.
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I used the build someone posted earlier tweaked a bit.
Vanille: Protectga/Blindga RM: Double Hit
Eiko: Curaga/Shellga RM: Thief's Code
Wakka: Full Break/Magic Breakdown RM: Defensive whatever
Zidane: Tempo Flurry/Steal Power RM: Defensive whatever
Cloud: Retaliate/Armor Break RM: SOLDIER Strike
RW: Advance
as long as it didn't fira too many times in a row, it was fairly effective. took me 5 tries past the opening seconds, but mostly due to some screw ups and bad luck. had no synergy outside of vivi's staff i dumped on Eiko just because.
My setup:
Cloud: Firaga Blade (this was a backup to burst his last bit of life if needed, did not use) / Retaliate (Haste RM)
Zidane: Double Hit / Steal Power (Sword+ RM)
Red XIII: Magic Breakdown / Mental Breakdown (Note: I do have the 5 star pin) (Mako Might RM)
Hope: Diaga / Shellga (Magic Damage+ RM, a weakness targeter would have been even better probably)
Vanille: Curaga / Blindga (Haste RM)
Advance RW
As you can see, there's some not the best choice abilities in there and I didn't really use Synergy. Red XIII's pin is the only unusual bit of equipment in use (Vanille's special limits that I have both of were nice, but completely inessential). I even left Zidane and Red XIII in the front row. It is doable!
Funny story about this party set up though. I had everything prepared... and then realized I had never broken Red's limit. After some research, I realized I was four dungeons away still. So I rushed through those and then waited for the next day on stamina. That day, classic + elite to break his limit (all so he could have Mako Might for the fight). Championed the fight this evening finally.
Mako Might was finally useful heh.
the fight is far easier with either an aoe heal or your own SG.
I killed him twice just to see if he would drop anything useful (nope)
if you have neither, IMO you need to have:
Blind, protecga, shellga, magic bd, curaga/ja possibly full break and sg/ssII RW
so right there is 6 skills out of your 10 allowed which really limits your choices to retaliate without advance. bringing boost, doublecut and armor break.
if you have a better boost like PP or HotE, that helps too.
I have him magic broken and shellga up and when they die they both hit for 1-2.5k aoe. Is it physical?
Maybe I've just gone as far as my crap gear can take me. Very frustrating.
Did you have SG/Stoneskin up as well?
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Hmm. Maybe I'll try swapping things around a bit and trying with that.
It's magic, but the head clears debuffs before it does the AOE, including break(down)s. So you are going to want to heal up, stack res buffs, and/or have some of your guys defend when one of the heads is going to drop.
Celes' Runic Blade SB only nullifies certain single-target spells and converts them into charges, I don't think anything Schizo does would be affected by it.
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Magic Shield however ups Res (P.Cecil's rampart does an equivilant Res up AND Def up, not sure if it stacks with Magic Shield) Stoneskin/SG reduce damage to 1/3 of what would be so 66.6%. If you have the hones/power to finish the fight with out advance then those would probably be the better RW to survive the fight, though you'd be in danger of losing out mastery to damage/action taken.
Edit: Either Magic Shield or Rampart DO stack with Shellga and/or SG Stoneskin
Well I've been looking for an excuse to hone Ruinga to R3.
Any FFVII synergy gear you have can help as well. If you've been playing for a month or so, you might have the Gold Sword which is good for retaliation. Otherwise, give any resistance gear to everyone on your team and have their accessories be +hp or +res if possible.
You could consider bringing Kirin to the fight for AE regen, or looking at Renewing Cure instead of Curaga for the regen to heal up before you kill each head. I think I brought haste to help with speeding up healing use as well.
Lenna Shellga Curaga
Wakka Boost Magic Breakdown
Rydia Ruinga Meteor
Vaan Armor Breakdown Double Cut
Magic broke both heads on my first turn as well as put shellga up. They compensated by casting Quakera every turn. Took a beating on my medals but no one died so that's +3 medals and I got expert/Master. I guess I didn't really expect that thing to be so hard, Classic mode was very easy while the Jenovas were godawful S/L fests.
I thought about Kirin, but the regen from that just doesn't seem to keep up with aoe damage at all anymore.
Most of the time I only use Kirin for fights where I rely on carbuncle or where I take no healing with me because I plan to blitz down a boss. Sometimes though, it can make enough of a difference while a dedicated healer keeps everyone alive.
I've been using renewing cure almost exclusively instead of curaga these days, especially with dragoon's determination RM. The mathcraft says that as long as you have at least 200 MND on the caster and get at least 3 regen ticks (I think 3), this becomes a better heal than curaga over time.
Of course, this is provided that next attack doesn't kill you before the regen ticks or anything.
it looks like my mage team is going to be:
eiko with her flute as summoner/WM2
Lulu with hairpin as BM1
y'shtola with thyrus as WM1
and a choice of either
ViVi with oak staff
Rinoa with Valkyrie
Hope with his boomerang
or any other BM
I only have barret and irvines weapon as far as supports go but I could throw one of them in with full break and mental break too
Also hooray for new classic dungeons! I can put off the scary elites for longer.
I have:
Lightning's sword (one from the lightning banner, one from hope's banner, one from lucky draw during orbfest)
Irvine's gun (lucky draw)
vaan's dagger (from XII event)
yoshimitsu (from XIVevent)
seifer's sword (from pulling for cutting trigger)
Auron's katana (from X event)
Kimahri's spear (from X event)
sabin's fist (from my first pull in VI event)
Barret's gun (from pulling for organics)
P.Cecil's Shield (lucky draw)
edit: forgot gold armor for Leon from sb fest
Rinoa's Valkyrie (pulling for cutting trigger)
vivi's staff (sb fest)
garnet's staff (lucky draw)
Thyrus (from XIV event)
Golem flute (IX event)
hope's boomerang (Hope's event)
aerith's ribbon (100 gem on organics)
lulu's hairpin (just now)
edit: forgot lenna's staff from the V event
but infinitly better than a random XII rod.