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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    wasn't twilight zone satan a guy locked in a cage who begged the protagonist to release him because the abbots had imprisoned him for decades and then when he released him he did an evil laugh and the abbots revealed that he was actually satan

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Young Goodman Brown is probably a good example of that trope

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    wasn't twilight zone satan a guy locked in a cage who begged the protagonist to release him because the abbots had imprisoned him for decades and then when he released him he did an evil laugh and the abbots revealed that he was actually satan

    There were like five different episodes that had Satan in them so I stand by my guess

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    FCDFCD Registered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
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    Mads Mikkelsen is great but I just... I have zero interest in Hannibal

    GRAHAM.........

    Sell me on it

    Aesthetically speaking, its probably the greatest show ever produced.

    Every single aspect of the show: lighting, sound design, wardrobe, ect... is a deliberate choice and they speak both loudly & beautifully.

    It is a show so deeply invested in its characters and the story its telling that they'll sometimes end an episode with two people have a simple (but incredibly poetic) chat.

    Lastly...

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Radius wrote: »
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    I guess I just don't have time for delicate cat and mouse games with glamorous psychopaths these days

    You should probably stop interacting with Jimmy in general then.

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    Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    I mean "Satan in a suit" is really just an extension of the idea that Lucifer should be a beautiful being, which dates back to Paradise Lost at least

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    wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Last issue of Secret Wars now scheduled for January 6th. Issue 8 confirmed for December 9th thankfully.

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    Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    I looked around and found this.
    In the 19th century, the publication of Goethe’s Mephistopholes in Faust and Mark Twain’s Mysterious Stranger influenced artists to portray Satan as much more of "a sly, cunning, dandyish type of figure," as Barryte says. "Instead of scaring people into sin and intimidating them, he now uses persuasion." And he has to look appropriate for the part: more weasely than bestial. In the exhibit, this trickster side of Satan is seen in a bronze statue depicting him as Mephistopholes, by the artist Ude.

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Lucifer the persuader in popular culture goes back to at least Pilgrim's Progress, which is a couple of hundred years older than Goethe and Clemens

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    But back to Jessica Jones
    Episode 13
    I love seeing Rosario Dawson but goddammit am I getting a Daredevil cameo or not
    You are not

    Well, fair enough
    I kinda feel like if you have a HEY MAYBE YOU SHOULD MEET MY FRIEND conversation it's kind of a huge tease to not follow up
    They're totally following up on it. Please watch The Defenders in 2017.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    I looked around and found this.
    In the 19th century, the publication of Goethe’s Mephistopholes in Faust and Mark Twain’s Mysterious Stranger influenced artists to portray Satan as much more of "a sly, cunning, dandyish type of figure," as Barryte says. "Instead of scaring people into sin and intimidating them, he now uses persuasion." And he has to look appropriate for the part: more weasely than bestial. In the exhibit, this trickster side of Satan is seen in a bronze statue depicting him as Mephistopholes, by the artist Ude.

    Tricksters are way more interesting than brutes and, quite frankly coersion makes for better moral lessons than being basically forced to do bad things.

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    JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    The Russos talked about the Cap 3 trailer

    My favorite bits:
    "There’s a part of his personality that was under mind control, and he murdered a lot of people. So he’s got a very complicated history. Who is that person? How does that character move forward? He’s not Bucky Barnes anymore. He’s not the Winter Soldier anymore. He’s something inbetween.
    Next, we see an old – but largely-forgotten face – enter the scene: William Hurt as General Thaddeus ‘Thunderbolt’ Ross, nemesis of Bruce Banner and last seen in the neglected stepchild of the MCU, 2008’s The Incredible Hulk. “The job is to tie all these films together,” says Joe Russo. “To be able to pull from The Hulk, which may have been forgotten about a little bit, and make it relevant again within the cinematic universe, is important to us.”
    “The Accords are the world jointly trying to govern the Avengers moving forward,” continues Joe Russo. “It has to do with the effects of Ultron and Sokovia [the small city that Ultron tried to drop on the Earth from a great height at the end of Age Of Ultron], and New York City [roundly trashed at the end of The Avengers], and Washington D.C. [nearly devastated by falling helicarriers at the end of Captain America: The Winter Soldier]. Examining the third acts of all the Marvel movies, we’re saying, if you could point to the collateral damage in all those incidents, could you use that against the Avengers to control them?”
    “He’s deepening his relationship with Cap,” says Joe Russo. “It’s Falcon, Cap and Bucky – how is that dynamic going to work going forward? How does he feel about Bucky? How does it alter his relationship with Cap if Winter Soldier comes back into the picture?”
    And now the crucial line of the trailer: Tony Stark, the first hero of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the man who bankrolled the Avengers, looking as upset as we’ve ever seen him, replies: “so was I”. And, from this line on, it seems that there may be no way back for the two superfriends. “The theme of the movie is betrayal and it’s a very powerful theme,” reveals Joe Russo. “The movie’s extremely emotional. It hinges on that emotion, and on a very personal level we didn’t want the movie to become about politics and people arguing about platitudes. The third act is built around a very personal moment between these characters.”

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    that seems to indicate the climax of the film is their fallout, not early on

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Jessica Jones final episode
    See DC? That's how you earn a hero snapping a villain's neck

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    FCDFCD Registered User regular
    PUT CIVIL WAR IN MY VEINS!

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    FCD wrote: »
    PUT CIVIL WAR IN MY VEINS!

    That would be an autoimmune disease. You don't want that.

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Dex Dynamo wrote: »
    I mean "Satan in a suit" is really just an extension of the idea that Lucifer should be a beautiful being, which dates back to Paradise Lost at least

    Most of what you could say about Satan dates back to Paradise Lost.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    that seems to indicate the climax of the film is their fallout, not early on

    They talk about Zemo for like one paragraph. I'm hoping it's just a fakeout.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
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    I think Hannibal is less about him being sexy and more that Zonugal thinks he's super sexy

    Well probably but even I can tell from advertising or the odd clip that he's definitely supposed to be kinda glamorous
    The suits, the apartment, the general sense of refinement and culture

    Plus the fact that I already know the general direction and ending of the series
    That Will finally gives in to his murderous impulses and they embrace and fall to their death together

    It all seems to romanticize it a little too much

    That is absolutely not the general direction and ending of the series.

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    I like peter stormare's satan

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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Dex Dynamo wrote: »
    I mean "Satan in a suit" is really just an extension of the idea that Lucifer should be a beautiful being, which dates back to Paradise Lost at least

    Doesn't Lucifer mean "shining one"?

    It's been in the pitch from the word go.

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    AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
    Lucifer in Sandman was pretty glamorous

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    I think Hannibal is less about him being sexy and more that Zonugal thinks he's super sexy

    Well probably but even I can tell from advertising or the odd clip that he's definitely supposed to be kinda glamorous
    The suits, the apartment, the general sense of refinement and culture

    Plus the fact that I already know the general direction and ending of the series
    That Will finally gives in to his murderous impulses and they embrace and fall to their death together

    It all seems to romanticize it a little too much

    That is absolutely not the general direction and ending of the series.

    Well, putting aside that my spoiler is a factual description of events
    If this is the best pitch for the show:
    I remember Bryan Fuller once saying the show is a parable about the "the darkest angel seducing the purest man," which I think is the best description of the show

    Then I just have a dozen better things to watch

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I'm pumped as hell for civil war
    I hope there's a third party though
    I want cap and Tony to be OK and friends again by the end

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I'm pumped as hell for civil war
    I hope there's a third party though
    I want cap and Tony to be OK and friends again by the end
    Zemo is almost certainly the third party

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    UltimateInfernoUltimateInferno Registered User regular
    and chances are they wont be all right till infinity war part 2

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Part 2? I didn't know part 1 was even official

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    and chances are they wont be all right till infinity war part 2
    Eh, that's not really true

    There's a billion things that could happen in the MCU between now and Infinity War and we don't know the landscape of the team when that movie starts

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    DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    Alright the Civil War trailer has me all hyped up and now I want to read Captain America comics

    If I was to buy one Captain America trade, which one should I get?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    DeMoN wrote: »
    Alright the Civil War trailer has me all hyped up and now I want to read Captain America comics

    If I was to buy one Captain America trade, which one should I get?
    Captain America: Man Out of Time would be my recommendation

    But the Winter Soldier volume that contains the first...12-16 (I think?) issues of Brubaker's run would also be an excellent choice

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    DeMoN wrote: »
    Alright the Civil War trailer has me all hyped up and now I want to read Captain America comics

    If I was to buy one Captain America trade, which one should I get?

    Brubaker's Winter Soldier/Death of Captain America omnibus

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    That's uh

    A little more than a trade, Zonnie

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    AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
    Not Cap, but Brubaker's Winter Soldier series is fantastic

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    That's uh

    A little more than a trade, Zonnie

    If someone asks for a meal, I'm going to sometimes recommend a feast.

    It happens...

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Dex Dynamo wrote: »
    I mean "Satan in a suit" is really just an extension of the idea that Lucifer should be a beautiful being, which dates back to Paradise Lost at least

    Doesn't Lucifer mean "shining one"?

    It's been in the pitch from the word go.

    Long story short Lucifer being another name for Satan, and Satan being a name or singular being rather than a description or title, is only as old as the King James Bible. They translated the words for "the adversary" to mean a specific person rather than a non-proper noun.

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    DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    Okay I'm seeing a lot of Captain America and Winter Soldier and Brubaker

    how about this? http://www.amazon.ca/Captain-America-Soldier-Ultimate-Collection/dp/0785143416/ref=pd_bxgy_14_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=0Y10N0CR58Q4YCGFASM8

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    DeMoN wrote: »
    Okay I'm seeing a lot of Captain America and Winter Soldier and Brubaker

    how about this? http://www.amazon.ca/Captain-America-Soldier-Ultimate-Collection/dp/0785143416/ref=pd_bxgy_14_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=0Y10N0CR58Q4YCGFASM8
    Yeah that's the one I mentioned that covers the first dozen or so issues

    It's an excellent choice

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    DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    Okay cool just wanted to make sure

    These things aren't exactly titled in a user friendly manner

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    I think Hannibal is less about him being sexy and more that Zonugal thinks he's super sexy

    Well probably but even I can tell from advertising or the odd clip that he's definitely supposed to be kinda glamorous
    The suits, the apartment, the general sense of refinement and culture

    Plus the fact that I already know the general direction and ending of the series
    That Will finally gives in to his murderous impulses and they embrace and fall to their death together

    It all seems to romanticize it a little too much

    That is absolutely not the general direction and ending of the series.

    Well, putting aside that my spoiler is a factual description of events
    If this is the best pitch for the show:
    I remember Bryan Fuller once saying the show is a parable about the "the darkest angel seducing the purest man," which I think is the best description of the show

    Then I just have a dozen better things to watch

    Your spoiler is not an accurate description of the events of the show.

    And avoiding spoilers as much as possible, I would say that pitch is only partially accurate.

    I really want to emphasize that the show is not about romanticizing or glamorizing Hannibal at all and also that I consider it possibly the single best drama to ever air on broadcast television.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Dedwrekka wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Dex Dynamo wrote: »
    I mean "Satan in a suit" is really just an extension of the idea that Lucifer should be a beautiful being, which dates back to Paradise Lost at least

    Doesn't Lucifer mean "shining one"?

    It's been in the pitch from the word go.

    Long story short Lucifer being another name for Satan, and Satan being a name or singular being rather than a description or title, is only as old as the King James Bible. They translated the words for "the adversary" to mean a specific person rather than a non-proper noun.

    I think we all watched Daredevil, thank you.

    Lucifer referring to 'shining one' or 'morning star' or 'bringing of the dawn' or 'brightest star' refers to the planet Venus

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