1776-2016: Sanctity of American bathrooms remains pure and inviolable
1789: In a huge blow for transgender rights, North Carolina admitted to Union
1959: A fight breaks out between Los Angeles police and transgender patrons at Cooper’s Donuts, a watershed moment indicating that the trans community is now large enough to be afraid of
1966: Dr. Harry Benjamin publishes The Transsexual Phenomenon, a pivotal book detailing how transgender individuals could medically transition from one sex to being completely ostracized by society
1969: Historic riots turn New York’s Stonewall Inn into an LGBT cultural mecca, much to the annoyance of the bar’s everyday regulars who are forced to find a new low-key happy hour spot
1975: Minneapolis is the first city to outlaw discrimination against trans people, forcing the trans community to accept the fact that living in Minnesota might be their best bet
1980: The revised Diagnostic And Statistical Manual Of Mental Disorders officially recognizes the term “gender identity disorder” in an attempt to be more open-minded about exactly what is wrong with transgender individuals
1993: Virginia man William Meyers, 51, definitively states that he can’t think of any reason why someone would want to do that to themselves
1994: A trans-dedicated AOL chatroom draws thousands of visitors each month, marking the first and last time an AOL chatroom had any positive effect on humanity
2012: Girl Scouts of Colorado welcome anyone identifying as a girl so long as she can fucking move boxes of Thin Mints
2013: Father gently asked not to use word “tranny”
2015: John Boehner does damnedest to maintain neutral facial expression as President Obama talks about transgender rights in State of the Union
2016-2020: Anti-LGBTQ lawmakers forced to get pretty creative
1975: Minneapolis is the first city to outlaw discrimination against trans people, forcing the trans community to accept the fact that living in Minnesota might be their best bet
...the Obama administration is planning to issue a sweeping decree telling every public school district in the country to allow transgender students to use the bathrooms that match their gender identity.
Federal Departments of Education and Justice will be informing NC schools that they need to allow students to use the facilities that coincide with the student's gender identity. Also no punitive actions (including cuts in funding) can/will occur until after lawsuits are heard.
Also a group of Healthcare workers are calling for repeal siting a sharp increase in calls to transgender suicide hotlines as among their reasons
The primary legal argument against allowing trans people into bathrooms that match their gender identity appears to be "bodily privacy rights," which makes no sense to me.
“Across societies and throughout history,” Niemeyer wrote, “it has been commonplace and universally accepted to separate public restrooms, locker rooms, and shower facilities on the basis of biological sex in order to address privacy and safety concerns arising from the biological differences between males and females. An individual has a legitimate and important interest in bodily privacy such that his or her nude or partially nude body, genitalia, and other private parts are not exposed to persons of the opposite biological sex. Indeed, courts have consistently recognized that the need for such privacy is inherent in the nature and dignity of humankind. ”
It applies to being seen by people with different genitalia but does not apply to being seen by people with the same genitalia. Why this is so and why it is not sexist, I do not know. Gay people exist so any assumption about sexual attraction falls flat.
I've peed in public probably a couple of thousand times. I have never observed a penis, nor have I been made aware of my own penis being observed. I am certain that at some point, one of the other men in those bathrooms was of the type that likes penises. It turns out people keep their shit together pretty well in bathrooms.
I might also add that if I did want to look at someone, the bathroom is not that place most conducive to pleasant feelings about seeing them. I guess the aroma of fresh poop may be arousing to some?
Basically, if I, a straight man who was interested in seeing a partly undressed lady, was going to go to the amount of trouble, expense and potential embarrassment it would take to dress up like a lady just to get to briefly look at some other lady's feet under the stall door, then I would actually rather choose a venue that was
1) less stinky
2) less risky
3) more visually profitable
but then I'm not a 6 year old, so I don't find poop and the concept of people pooping as hilarious or interesting as I once did.
The argument that without arbitrary rules tons of people would be sexual predators is just a crazy one. If it's not true it's not true, and if it is true than maybe we as a society should do more to make it clear that sexually assaulting, or even harassing, other people is double plus ungood and something that cannot, will not, be tolerated.
The argument that without arbitrary rules tons of people would be sexual predators is just a crazy one. If it's not true it's not true, and if it is true than maybe we as a society should do more to make it clear that sexually assaulting, or even harassing, other people is double plus ungood and something that cannot, will not, be tolerated.
Also the idea that sexually abusing someone isn't against someone's code of conduct but breaking an arbitrary and difficult to enforce law is, is pretty chilling. In a way it's sort of a tacit admittance that sexual harassment and abuse aren't punished very well on their own. And that we've been teaching people to respect the social contract of law but not the social contract of treating other human beings with respect.
One of the really infuriating parts of all this is that if you do find a report about a man assaulting a woman in a public restroom, believe me, you won't read about how he resorted to Mission: Impossible-like subterfuge to make a clandestine entrance. He did what fucking dirtbags always do: found a victim and isolated them.
A victim, by the way, they are statistically likely to know personally. So yeah, fat lot of fucking good a disguise is gonna do anyway.
But hey, why let research get in the way of good old fashioned hate and fear?
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Heurgh...
This got a chuckle out of me.
Or their buddy in a game of pepper spray chicken
It's name changes for people with inappropriately gendered names.
there, I said it
First to pass marriage equality, too.
Makes me homesick...
That legalized child labor cookie company is doing just fine
Clearly you have never been to the wrestling thread....you will learn all sorts of things there
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None of them useful.
But then who will we go to for haircuts?
Visigoths and Ostrogoths.
Orthodox or Reformed? Either way, I'll still be using the same Seventh Day Manicurist I always have.
Also a group of Healthcare workers are calling for repeal siting a sharp increase in calls to transgender suicide hotlines as among their reasons
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Huge overlap in this thread's population and that one
I have often wondered what the common denominator is. Something must have a cross appeal because the statistics are eye opening.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mary-pilcher-cook-kansas-transgender-birth-certificates
fuck
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this is fucking monstrous
its literally Kansas saying "you are not a woman/man and you cannot be a woman/man, period."
holy shit fuck that
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/05/13/straight-into-the-paper-shredder-texans-the-first-to-decry-obamas-school-directive-about-transgender-bathrooms/
Basically, if I, a straight man who was interested in seeing a partly undressed lady, was going to go to the amount of trouble, expense and potential embarrassment it would take to dress up like a lady just to get to briefly look at some other lady's feet under the stall door, then I would actually rather choose a venue that was
1) less stinky
2) less risky
3) more visually profitable
but then I'm not a 6 year old, so I don't find poop and the concept of people pooping as hilarious or interesting as I once did.
Also the idea that sexually abusing someone isn't against someone's code of conduct but breaking an arbitrary and difficult to enforce law is, is pretty chilling. In a way it's sort of a tacit admittance that sexual harassment and abuse aren't punished very well on their own. And that we've been teaching people to respect the social contract of law but not the social contract of treating other human beings with respect.
A victim, by the way, they are statistically likely to know personally. So yeah, fat lot of fucking good a disguise is gonna do anyway.
But hey, why let research get in the way of good old fashioned hate and fear?
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EDIT: New Statesman might actually care about cleaning up comment sections, if they have them, though.
A binary division is all that small minds can handle.
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