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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Also if you really want to watch women use the bathroom there are websites for that

    And the women on those sites are (I assume) doing it willingly, too!

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    It occurs to me that the religious right will dig out selective quotes from the Bible to support their bigotry while ignoring some of the other passages that don't align with their platform, including policies that run counter to the 10 Commandments and yet when the federal government or supreme court finds support for progressive actions within our own Constitution or Bill of Rights they are suddenly not cool with interpreting a text.

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    I would say it's extra important to watch your spelling in regards to people like McCrory, because the last thing you want is someone with a similar name becoming a target for this vitriol.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    It occurs to me that the religious right will dig out selective quotes from the Bible to support their bigotry while ignoring some of the other passages that don't align with their platform, including policies that run counter to the 10 Commandments and yet when the federal government or supreme court finds support for progressive actions within our own Constitution or Bill of Rights they are suddenly not cool with interpreting a text.

    It's almost as though they're monsters who don't actually care about any source of authority beyond whatever conveniently props up their preconceived notions.

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    I would say it's extra important to watch your spelling in regards to people like McCrory, because the last thing you want is someone with a similar name becoming a target for this vitriol.

    This feels weird to me. We have ready access to such a large population of people with the internet any name is likely to be duplicated numerous times, correctly spelled or not. I know of at least four semi-famous folks with my exact first/last name combination. I'm sure there are numerous more who aren't famous enough for me to have noticed.

    In the end I feel the actual answer is: Don't Harass People.

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    Goatmon wrote: »
    I would say it's extra important to watch your spelling in regards to people like McCrory, because the last thing you want is someone with a similar name becoming a target for this vitriol.

    This feels weird to me. We have ready access to such a large population of people with the internet any name is likely to be duplicated numerous times, correctly spelled or not. I know of at least four semi-famous folks with my exact first/last name combination. I'm sure there are numerous more who aren't famous enough for me to have noticed.

    In the end I feel the actual answer is: Don't Harass People.

    Yeah, don't do anything to anyone that you wouldn't want to accidentally do to someone with the same name as then. It's not as though harassment generally achieves anything.

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
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    amnesiasoftamnesiasoft Thick Creamy Furry Registered User regular
    Just picked up and read the book If I Was Your Girl by Meredith Russo. I really enjoyed it. I'm not sure if it was her just getting the feelings across really well, or just me knowing them so well. Probably a bit of both.

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    the justice department is asserting that trans people are protected under the civil rights act

    if the case succeeds, discrimination based on gender identity will be illegal under federal law

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Holy shit

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    PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    Only partway through it, but it's a rad speech so far, hope she can back it up.

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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    edited May 2016
    It was also a commonly used reason for segregation.

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    Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Yeah this circles back around to Tube's "cheater" theory that the only reason these people are so worried about abuse of women from these other groups is because of their own predilections.

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited May 2016
    Ms Dapper wrote: »

    Well it's not like this is new. We used women as a shield for anti-segregation attitudes back in the day.

    We just mostly use children instead, because they can't really speak for themselves in politics.

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    NecoNeco Worthless Garbage Registered User regular
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    That was good watch. I hope that press release made McCrory sweat a bit.

    Anyway, that was a good watch, but speakers said some encouraging things. Hopefully the courts will agree with them.

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
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    PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    That's awesome CJ, very happy for you :)

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    Neco wrote: »
    That was good watch. I hope that press release made McCrory sweat a bit.

    Anyway, that was a good watch, but speakers said some encouraging things. Hopefully the courts will agree with them.

    Well both the gov and the general Assembly are separately suing in federal court. The legislature wants the courts to declare it not really discriminatory, at least not illegally so

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    Kilroy wrote: »

    consider me very very very cautiously optimistic

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    V1mV1m Registered User regular
    Man it sure was enlightening to read about who the real victims of that HB2 law are.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/north-carolina-republicans-bathoom-222992

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    cishet white conservatives want to act oppressed so badly, but without any of the actual consequences of oppression

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    “The perception in politics is that the Republicans did this,” said Jeter, who represents a district just west of Charlotte, noting that 11 House Democrats also voted for it. “I disagree with that perception, but guess what? I’ve got as much a chance of changing that perception as I do convincing my 15-year-old daughter that I know what the hell I’m talking about. You know, you deal with the political realities you’re dealt.”

    wasn't this thing pushed through by near unanimous republican vote?

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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    “The perception in politics is that the Republicans did this,” said Jeter, who represents a district just west of Charlotte, noting that 11 House Democrats also voted for it. “I disagree with that perception, but guess what? I’ve got as much a chance of changing that perception as I do convincing my 15-year-old daughter that I know what the hell I’m talking about. You know, you deal with the political realities you’re dealt.”

    wasn't this thing pushed through by near unanimous republican vote?

    Right? I was just coming here to post that. Dude wants to act like the Republicans were just onlookers who got caught up in this horrible thing that had all these unknown consequences when they're the ones who pushed it through in one day.

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    And I think, in general, trans people are very aware that democrats aren't these wonderful 'good guys', they're just the best guys we're given

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    PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    “The perception in politics is that the Republicans did this,” said Jeter, who represents a district just west of Charlotte, noting that 11 House Democrats also voted for it. “I disagree with that perception, but guess what? I’ve got as much a chance of changing that perception as I do convincing my 15-year-old daughter that I know what the hell I’m talking about. You know, you deal with the political realities you’re dealt.”

    wasn't this thing pushed through by near unanimous republican vote?

    yeah but in the sense of a two party system, the more technically accurate perception is that it bipartisan bill.
    I doubt the democrats would have made the bill if the repubs weren't pushing it, which really isn't a mitigating factor to me against the democrats who voted for it.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    "Best" is such a loaded word in this case. "Least bad" feels more honest.

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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    I thought the democrats all walked out because they knew they were such a minority and walking out would cause a bigger stir then voting no.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    Yeah the story at the time was that it was a Democrat walkout.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Ms Dapper wrote: »
    I thought the democrats all walked out because they knew they were such a minority and walking out would cause a bigger stir then voting no.

    It was definitely spun as a "refuse to participate in this farce" move.

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    DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    I think it was the senate democrats that walked out.

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    V1m wrote: »
    Man it sure was enlightening to read about who the real victims of that HB2 law are.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/north-carolina-republicans-bathoom-222992
    GOP strategists say their party is defined by the controversial law and it will cost them in November.

    Boo-fucking-hoo.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    V1m wrote: »
    Man it sure was enlightening to read about who the real victims of that HB2 law are.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/north-carolina-republicans-bathoom-222992
    GOP strategists say their party is defined by the controversial law and it will cost them in November.

    Boo-fucking-hoo.

    That's funny, GOP strategists, I happen to agree with you there.

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    The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I don't know if this is just a self-serving statement, but I think I need to get it out of my system.

    I am not a violent person. I am calm, slow to anger, and have never been in a fight. But if I ever saw some "family values" zealot putting their hands on someone because they think that person is using the wrong bathroom, I swear to whatever invisible sky wizard you care to name, I would drop them like a sack of fucking potatoes.

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    V1mV1m Registered User regular
    Kilroy wrote: »
    cishet white conservatives want to act oppressed so badly, but without any of the actual consequences of oppression

    Could there be any worse oppression than denying my intrinsic right - duty - to be shitty to people who aren't white or straight?

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    V1m wrote: »
    Man it sure was enlightening to read about who the real victims of that HB2 law are.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/north-carolina-republicans-bathoom-222992
    GOP strategists say their party is defined by the controversial law and it will cost them in November.

    Boo-fucking-hoo.

    What confuses me is that using the law to motivate voter turn out is the only reason these laws exist. It's a non-problem that they're passing laws about because they think it plays well. It something for the R's to bang the drum on where their opposition doesn't want to bang the counter drum just as hard.

    At least that's what they thought would happen but apparently Obama's DoJ got a new pair of skins they've been dying to try out.

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    WyvernWyvern Registered User regular
    Oh hey, it's May 10, which means I've officially completed five months of hormones! I celebrated by having an emotional breakdown over facial hair.

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    yay for hormones, hugs for the breakdown :( I'm sorry, friend

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