hey, what an unexpected surprise, this show doesn't suck any more! neat!
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I'm torn on watching it. I still absolutely fucking hate that they just kicked viewers in the balls by forgetting about where they left off the original premise of the show, I dunno if I can watch even a good new season without constantly being annoyed by that.
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I mean... yeah, as far as these weird alternate reality worlds go, this one's been pretty good. But I still don't think of it as the 'real' show and I don't want those characters to be left hanging perpetually.
I'm wondering if the space-gang winds up finding some parallel reality dimensional portal thing or something that lets them connect with all the other universes, including the 'Prime' one, and making bring it all back around to the original cast again somehow.
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That's kind of where I'm stuck. If the showrunners are just going to ignore the "original" setting completely, I'll have to pass. Not just because it's unsatisfying, but because it's so fucking lazy to not tie up that setting in some satisfactory way. They could still do it a million different ways. They could do it with five minutes of screentime in the very last episode as long as they don't crap it up and I'd be happy.
But just ignoring the original setting? Why'd they even fucking bother with having characters arc in the first place if they were just going to drop it all and pretend it didn't exist?
That's kind of where I'm stuck. If the showrunners are just going to ignore the "original" setting completely, I'll have to pass. Not just because it's unsatisfying, but because it's so fucking lazy to not tie up that setting in some satisfactory way. They could still do it a million different ways. They could do it with five minutes of screentime in the very last episode as long as they don't crap it up and I'd be happy.
But just ignoring the original setting? Why'd they even fucking bother with having characters arc in the first place if they were just going to drop it all and pretend it didn't exist?
My understanding is the 2 head guys in charge have a habit of starting these shows and more or less abandoning/get bored with them. Archer got started I think because they split apart after an argument dealing with .... frisky dingo? They made up after a season or two of archer I think? I kind of expected this turn, it took them much longer this time, and not to be super pissy about it, maybe we'ill get a whole story next time. I feel like those alternate timeline seasons were what was keeping the show alive. I am pretty sure when we got archer face down in the pool, that was just going to be the end of the show.
That's kind of where I'm stuck. If the showrunners are just going to ignore the "original" setting completely, I'll have to pass. Not just because it's unsatisfying, but because it's so fucking lazy to not tie up that setting in some satisfactory way. They could still do it a million different ways. They could do it with five minutes of screentime in the very last episode as long as they don't crap it up and I'd be happy.
But just ignoring the original setting? Why'd they even fucking bother with having characters arc in the first place if they were just going to drop it all and pretend it didn't exist?
My understanding is the 2 head guys in charge have a habit of starting these shows and more or less abandoning/get bored with them. Archer got started I think because they split apart after an argument dealing with .... frisky dingo? They made up after a season or two of archer I think? I kind of expected this turn, it took them much longer this time, and not to be super pissy about it, maybe we'ill get a whole story next time. I feel like those alternate timeline seasons were what was keeping the show alive. I am pretty sure when we got archer face down in the pool, that was just going to be the end of the show.
Eh, the way they've handled this show basically guarantees I won't be watching any more of their shows. It's one thing to wrap up something because you're bored with it (which is plenty reasonable), it's another thing entirely to set something up and then casually say "fuck you" to viewers by dropping it completely for something else. There's plenty of other shows to watch these days without showmakers that basically just waste your time simply through not giving a damn.
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It’s still funny though.
Like, immensely funny.
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I'm now all caught up to the end of season 9. Dreamland was a bit of a dip but Danger Island was better.
Honestly the 'main plot' of the show is something I've never been interested in, particularly. It's never been the attraction of the show and it's never been the focus. Mostly the plot is just something to hang as many jokes on as possible.
Coming from a longtime, often-suffering Simpsons fan -- overemphasizing the details of continuity will only prevent you from enjoying the good stuff. Is the show interesting? Is it well-written? Funny? Are the characters still true to themselves? In this case, I'd say yes to all the above.
Granted I could see the frustrations much more in Dreamland, since that season got too wrapped up in the setting and made it feel like a completely different show. But honestly, this season is aces, and whether or not the coma ever gets resolved isn't going to change that for me.
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Coming from a longtime, often-suffering Simpsons fan -- overemphasizing the details of continuity will only prevent you from enjoying the good stuff. Is the show interesting? Is it well-written? Funny? Are the characters still true to themselves? In this case, I'd say yes to all the above.
Granted I could see the frustrations much more in Dreamland, since that season got too wrapped up in the setting and made it feel like a completely different show. But honestly, this season is aces, and whether or not the coma ever gets resolved isn't going to change that for me.
I agree with all of this, but I still would like for the coma to be resolved
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I dunno, most of the jokes only land because of the continuity; archer and lana as star crossed lovers, scatalogical humor with pam, etc. Continuing to run those back without really iterating on the characters winds up making them feel really stale, at least to me
I do think this season is going better than the couple previous but I do wish they'd do more with the hanging 'main' plot, even if it was only like a segment of an ep here or there
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Some Inception style cutaways to the "real" world but without much context could be fun.
They did that in the worst of these fever dream seasons...
If we cut back to the real cast, I want it to happen in the context of setting up a whole new season.
Like, let archer be 20 years older, close to burt reynolds in age from earlier, let his daughter be in the family business, let lana have moved on and maybe married cyril, set the stage for some epic funny.
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I think Jon Hamm is gettable for them now after a cooling off period from mad men. They just need to do a couple live action episodes. Maybe over dub him with JHB for more comedy.
Just have Archer wake up from his coma and immediately hit on the nurse that's in the room. With the joke being that the nurse is either AJ or a theoretical granddaughter. They both become horrified at the realization, smash cut to the credits.
Some Inception style cutaways to the "real" world but without much context could be fun.
I was hoping we’d cut back to his hospital room and then whatever happened there that he heard would then influence his coma when we went back to it to comical effect.
I think Jon Hamm is gettable for them now after a cooling off period from mad men. They just need to do a couple live action episodes. Maybe over dub him with JHB for more comedy.
Pfft he's a sea captian
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I never actually made it all the way through Archer Vice and I tried twice.
That was like 95 seasons ago.
The next two seasons after Acher Vice (6 and 7) are really good. Definitely skip Dreamland (Season 8). Danger Island (Season 9) is okay but if you had trouble with Archer Vice I'd say skip it. The current season (season 10) is aces.
Archer: Space has been the best of their deviant season for me (both because of genre and execution), but I'm not sure how much more than can get outta this that isn't just fan fawn.
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I'm wondering if the space-gang winds up finding some parallel reality dimensional portal thing or something that lets them connect with all the other universes, including the 'Prime' one, and making bring it all back around to the original cast again somehow.
But just ignoring the original setting? Why'd they even fucking bother with having characters arc in the first place if they were just going to drop it all and pretend it didn't exist?
My understanding is the 2 head guys in charge have a habit of starting these shows and more or less abandoning/get bored with them. Archer got started I think because they split apart after an argument dealing with .... frisky dingo? They made up after a season or two of archer I think? I kind of expected this turn, it took them much longer this time, and not to be super pissy about it, maybe we'ill get a whole story next time. I feel like those alternate timeline seasons were what was keeping the show alive. I am pretty sure when we got archer face down in the pool, that was just going to be the end of the show.
That said, I really like this space version of Archer, so I don’t mind it so much.
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Eh, the way they've handled this show basically guarantees I won't be watching any more of their shows. It's one thing to wrap up something because you're bored with it (which is plenty reasonable), it's another thing entirely to set something up and then casually say "fuck you" to viewers by dropping it completely for something else. There's plenty of other shows to watch these days without showmakers that basically just waste your time simply through not giving a damn.
Like, immensely funny.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Honestly the 'main plot' of the show is something I've never been interested in, particularly. It's never been the attraction of the show and it's never been the focus. Mostly the plot is just something to hang as many jokes on as possible.
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With Archer, though, I don't actually care. I'm not invested in the characters or the main setting/plot. I just watch because it is funny.
And the space episodes have been super fun.
of course it is, and it continues to be explored in the alternate settings.
There was a fairly major revelation on this topic during the space episodes.
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They don't have one, they're episodic. Trying to determine an overarching plot is missing the point of them.
Granted I could see the frustrations much more in Dreamland, since that season got too wrapped up in the setting and made it feel like a completely different show. But honestly, this season is aces, and whether or not the coma ever gets resolved isn't going to change that for me.
I agree with all of this, but I still would like for the coma to be resolved
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
I do think this season is going better than the couple previous but I do wish they'd do more with the hanging 'main' plot, even if it was only like a segment of an ep here or there
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
They did that in the worst of these fever dream seasons...
If we cut back to the real cast, I want it to happen in the context of setting up a whole new season.
Like, let archer be 20 years older, close to burt reynolds in age from earlier, let his daughter be in the family business, let lana have moved on and maybe married cyril, set the stage for some epic funny.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
I was hoping we’d cut back to his hospital room and then whatever happened there that he heard would then influence his coma when we went back to it to comical effect.
Pfft he's a sea captian
You don't have to catch up to anything. Just watch the newest season.
That was like 95 seasons ago.
The next two seasons after Acher Vice (6 and 7) are really good. Definitely skip Dreamland (Season 8). Danger Island (Season 9) is okay but if you had trouble with Archer Vice I'd say skip it. The current season (season 10) is aces.
I'd give it a 4!
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