ObiFettUse the ForceAs You WishRegistered Userregular
edited August 2016
Pretending to be dead is fun. I was pretty sure I was never gonna get the chance to do that ever again, so I had to take advantage of it while I could.
We've got 8 people alive.
2 mafia left:
- And we don't kill any mafia or don't kill their assaulter: We lose a villager to the vote, 2 dead kills, and 2 mafia kills. That leaves 3 players left tomorrow. If there are two mafia left, we lose.
- And we vote out their assaulter: We lose 3 villagers, which puts us at 1 mafia and 3 villagers left. We would have to vote out the mafia to win. If we vig them then its a host victory.
1 mafia left:
- And we vote/assault them: we win
- And we don't kill them tonight. We lose 5 villagers. Leaving 3 people alive tomorrow and even if we hit with our vote then the dead will vote out the remaining and its a host victory.
So the only way we win is if we vote out a mafia tonight. And even then, there is only one fringe case where the game doesn't end tonight.
So since there won't be a next day, I see no danger in infodumping so we make the best decision. Here's the rundown of the remaining players:
38thDoe - Has buffed me for the past two nights, which I think would clear him since he if he was mafia he wouldn't have been able to assault Bliss101 - See 38thDoe Corvidae - We've had 2 builders die green. We've never had more than 2 of any role. He was seered as "You can't make anything out about corvidae's true intentions" but the seering in this game is weird and it could just be how the question was asked. He did use the artifact on me the night before last, but admittedly did not know what the artifact would do and also told me that there was a warning to "be careful who you use the artifact on." But still, I don't see a mafia using the artifact on me. They'd probably target one of their own. Grunt's Ghosts - Really vocal about me coming back, which I think he wouldn't do if he was mafia? Or maybe he would because as a mafia it would be easy to get super pissed about an unkillable nethead. Got into a group early and I don't think they've killed any mafia. I've got nothing here. Not sure either way. LonelyAhava - Seered Village by MrT. SLyM - Again, nothing. Laid super low all game, made himself invincible with armor. That could easily be mafia or just a defensive village player. WACriminal - Was supposed to attack me last night. Had he done so, it would have shown in the narration that I was assaulted by a green player. This is how I was trying to confirm chamberlain and how he got caught as well. He's claiming he did attack me but it must have been a busdrive or something. Easily our best lead, imo.
ObiFettUse the ForceAs You WishRegistered Userregular
edited August 2016
Seers ask a question
And then Burnage The Cave answers it however it feels like it.
Lets just infodump what MrT gave me:
Q: what is the most useful thing that I could learn tonight?
A: The most useful thing you could learn tonight would be the names of the six Death Cultists stalking Portend.
Q: which words and in what order could I use in a divination request that would unambiguously reveal the names of the six Death Cultists stalking Portend?
A: no reply. It seems as if the Cave isn't powerful enough to provide a response, and you're about to leave when you experience a rapid series of mental images - corpses, growing more numerous, growing more powerful, coming to rule over all. You're not sure what it means, but you leave the Cave sweating.
Q: Which player(s) attacked the mortuary?
A: Raiden333 and another individual, their face obscured to you, attacked the mortuary.
Q: What is the name of a non-eliminated player that is an undead threat to the town?
A: There are no non-eliminated players that are an undead threat.
Q:Is Gizzy a Death Cultist?
A: lonelyahava does not appear to worship death
Day 6: Divination - Is lonelyahava a Death Cultist?
Reply: lonelyahava does not appear to worship death
Q: Is corvidae the name of one of the six Death Cultists that stalked Portend on the first night?
A: You can't make anything out about corvidae's true intentions
Basically its like if seering were clarification questions, with hilarious host cave responses and all
WACriminalDying Is Easy, Young ManLiving Is HarderRegistered Userregular
How the feck do I be coming out of that looking more suspicious than the mangy cur corvidae? He be violating our rule of three, the seering cave be hesitant to be telling ye his alignment, and he be holding artifacts aligned with death.
In fact, take a look at these side by side:
Q: Which player(s) attacked the mortuary?
A: Raiden333 and another individual, their face obscured to you, attacked the mortuary.
Q: Is corvidae the name of one of the six Death Cultists that stalked Portend on the first night?
A: You can't make anything out about corvidae's true intentions
Two instances of cloaking from the seering cave. Mayhaps the same player? Further evidence:
Q:Is Gizzy a Death Cultist?
A: lonelyahava does not appear to worship death
First off, what the feck. And ye be saying there be no bus-driving hereabouts. A proper daft one, ye be.
Second, the seering cave seem not hesitant to provide alignment seering in general, providing ye with Ahava's alignment. Then how come it be so cryptic when corvidae be the target? Be he some sort of shifty type?
Finally, consider again these two facts in evidence:
1. The remaining enemy, presumably, be the mysterious cove wot attacked the mortuary.
2. Corvidae be claiming to be a builder.
Perhaps he be not simply a builder, but instead can attack OR repair a building? 'Twould be the perfect cover role. Or, even more simply, perhaps he can only attack buildings, but could have held back his attack to "confirm" that he had repaired a building under attack.
All of this seem proper suspicious to me eyes.
And ye still not be explaining how a mafia team which includes multiple experienced veterans -- including discrider, who God save him ain't done naught BUT play mafia of late -- made such a rookie mistake as to put their team kill on the vote winner, without me bus driving power. The evidence of me bus driving's continued existence be right there in yer seering cave results, but ye be plainly ignoring it, mate.
Q:Is Gizzy a Death Cultist?
A: lonelyahava does not appear to worship death
Sorry, I copied the question from earlier in the PM chain when we were gonna seer Gizzy and then we changed over to Ahava. This is the PM I got from MrT after the results:
Day 6: Divination - Is lonelyahava a Death Cultist?
Reply: lonelyahava does not appear to worship death
Q:Is Gizzy a Death Cultist?
A: lonelyahava does not appear to worship death
Sorry, I copied the question from earlier in the PM chain when we were gonna seer Gizzy and then we changed over to Ahava. This is the PM I got from MrT after the results:
Day 6: Divination - Is lonelyahava a Death Cultist?
Reply: lonelyahava does not appear to worship death
...ye copied the question from one message and the answer from another?
Ye're lucky ye been confirmed five times over, mate.
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ObiFettUse the ForceAs You WishRegistered Userregular
Q:Is Gizzy a Death Cultist?
A: lonelyahava does not appear to worship death
Sorry, I copied the question from earlier in the PM chain when we were gonna seer Gizzy and then we changed over to Ahava. This is the PM I got from MrT after the results:
Day 6: Divination - Is lonelyahava a Death Cultist?
Reply: lonelyahava does not appear to worship death
...ye copied the question from one message and the answer from another?
Ye're lucky ye been confirmed five times over, mate.
I have so many PMs
But I thought I asked MrT to seer Ahava, turns out I asked him to seer discrider but he seered ahava that night. It was because I wasn't confirmed yet so he didnt trust me. That Gizzy question was just an example he gave me of the phrasing he was gonna use on his target that night. I copied that question and then the results on Ahava. I'm dumb.
Be that as it may, that be but one small part of me argument. The seering cave shenanigans be far more persuasive, by my reckoning, mate.
Why didn't you attack me last night?
You knew it would confirm you. I have basically zero health and die to any attack of any strength. If you had attacked me, it would have shown up in narration.
Yet you obviously didn't attack me because nothing was there. And there was no busdrive because I got my attack buffed by the weaponsmiths.
Be that as it may, that be but one small part of me argument. The seering cave shenanigans be far more persuasive, by my reckoning, mate.
Why didn't you attack me last night?
You knew it would confirm you. I have basically zero health and die to any attack of any strength. If you had attacked me, it would have shown up in narration.
Yet you obviously didn't attack me because nothing was there. And there was no busdrive because I got my attack buffed by the weaponsmiths.
I've already told ye everything I know. I got no explanation, 'cept...
...BurnagePhalla, mate.
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ObiFettUse the ForceAs You WishRegistered Userregular
Be that as it may, that be but one small part of me argument. The seering cave shenanigans be far more persuasive, by my reckoning, mate.
Why didn't you attack me last night?
You knew it would confirm you. I have basically zero health and die to any attack of any strength. If you had attacked me, it would have shown up in narration.
Yet you obviously didn't attack me because nothing was there. And there was no busdrive because I got my attack buffed by the weaponsmiths.
I've already told ye everything I know. I got no explanation, 'cept...
...BurnagePhalla, mate.
I mean you have an explanation, you just don't want to tell us that you're mafia.
so glad i set an alarm to wake up for vote close, and see it gets extended.
not sarcasm, birdbeard gets to have a nice adult beverage, and go back to sleep.
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
I'm happy for extension, first night since my 4 month old was born that we had babysitters and went out for a wild night of Olive Garden and oh everything closes early because its Sunday.
Missing just a couple of orders. Day will end once they're in.
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WACriminalDying Is Easy, Young ManLiving Is HarderRegistered Userregular
OK, yeah, host just confirmed a confession from me could finish the game. I didn't want to do it before in case of any remaining non-mafia factors (like survival neutrals, etc.).
I fought the ObiLaw, and the ObiLaw won, mate.
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ObiFettUse the ForceAs You WishRegistered Userregular
OK, yeah, host just confirmed a confession from me could finish the game. I didn't want to do it before in case of any remaining non-mafia factors (like survival neutrals, etc.).
I fought the ObiLaw, and the ObiLaw won, mate.
Now I think this is a trick and there is another mafia left...
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We've got 8 people alive.
2 mafia left:
- And we don't kill any mafia or don't kill their assaulter: We lose a villager to the vote, 2 dead kills, and 2 mafia kills. That leaves 3 players left tomorrow. If there are two mafia left, we lose.
- And we vote out their assaulter: We lose 3 villagers, which puts us at 1 mafia and 3 villagers left. We would have to vote out the mafia to win. If we vig them then its a host victory.
1 mafia left:
- And we vote/assault them: we win
- And we don't kill them tonight. We lose 5 villagers. Leaving 3 people alive tomorrow and even if we hit with our vote then the dead will vote out the remaining and its a host victory.
So the only way we win is if we vote out a mafia tonight. And even then, there is only one fringe case where the game doesn't end tonight.
So since there won't be a next day, I see no danger in infodumping so we make the best decision. Here's the rundown of the remaining players:
38thDoe - Has buffed me for the past two nights, which I think would clear him since he if he was mafia he wouldn't have been able to assault
Bliss101 - See 38thDoe
Corvidae - We've had 2 builders die green. We've never had more than 2 of any role. He was seered as "You can't make anything out about corvidae's true intentions" but the seering in this game is weird and it could just be how the question was asked. He did use the artifact on me the night before last, but admittedly did not know what the artifact would do and also told me that there was a warning to "be careful who you use the artifact on." But still, I don't see a mafia using the artifact on me. They'd probably target one of their own.
Grunt's Ghosts - Really vocal about me coming back, which I think he wouldn't do if he was mafia? Or maybe he would because as a mafia it would be easy to get super pissed about an unkillable nethead. Got into a group early and I don't think they've killed any mafia. I've got nothing here. Not sure either way.
LonelyAhava - Seered Village by MrT.
SLyM - Again, nothing. Laid super low all game, made himself invincible with armor. That could easily be mafia or just a defensive village player.
WACriminal - Was supposed to attack me last night. Had he done so, it would have shown in the narration that I was assaulted by a green player. This is how I was trying to confirm chamberlain and how he got caught as well. He's claiming he did attack me but it must have been a busdrive or something. Easily our best lead, imo.
WACriminal, sorry bro, but that's just too much odd for me to trust.
WACriminal
And then Burnage The Cave answers it however it feels like it.
Lets just infodump what MrT gave me:
Q: what is the most useful thing that I could learn tonight?
A: The most useful thing you could learn tonight would be the names of the six Death Cultists stalking Portend.
Q: which words and in what order could I use in a divination request that would unambiguously reveal the names of the six Death Cultists stalking Portend?
A: no reply. It seems as if the Cave isn't powerful enough to provide a response, and you're about to leave when you experience a rapid series of mental images - corpses, growing more numerous, growing more powerful, coming to rule over all. You're not sure what it means, but you leave the Cave sweating.
Q: Which player(s) attacked the mortuary?
A: Raiden333 and another individual, their face obscured to you, attacked the mortuary.
Q: What is the name of a non-eliminated player that is an undead threat to the town?
A: There are no non-eliminated players that are an undead threat.
Q:Is Gizzy a Death Cultist?
A: lonelyahava does not appear to worship death
Day 6: Divination - Is lonelyahava a Death Cultist?
Reply: lonelyahava does not appear to worship death
Q: Is corvidae the name of one of the six Death Cultists that stalked Portend on the first night?
A: You can't make anything out about corvidae's true intentions
Basically its like if seering were clarification questions, with hilarious host cave responses and all
??
In fact, take a look at these side by side:
Two instances of cloaking from the seering cave. Mayhaps the same player? Further evidence:
First off, what the feck. And ye be saying there be no bus-driving hereabouts. A proper daft one, ye be.
Second, the seering cave seem not hesitant to provide alignment seering in general, providing ye with Ahava's alignment. Then how come it be so cryptic when corvidae be the target? Be he some sort of shifty type?
Finally, consider again these two facts in evidence:
1. The remaining enemy, presumably, be the mysterious cove wot attacked the mortuary.
2. Corvidae be claiming to be a builder.
Perhaps he be not simply a builder, but instead can attack OR repair a building? 'Twould be the perfect cover role. Or, even more simply, perhaps he can only attack buildings, but could have held back his attack to "confirm" that he had repaired a building under attack.
All of this seem proper suspicious to me eyes.
And ye still not be explaining how a mafia team which includes multiple experienced veterans -- including discrider, who God save him ain't done naught BUT play mafia of late -- made such a rookie mistake as to put their team kill on the vote winner, without me bus driving power. The evidence of me bus driving's continued existence be right there in yer seering cave results, but ye be plainly ignoring it, mate.
When did MrT get the results on Lonelyahava?
'Tis true, *I* be losing it. It be taken from me.
Question is who took it, mate.
Sorry, I copied the question from earlier in the PM chain when we were gonna seer Gizzy and then we changed over to Ahava. This is the PM I got from MrT after the results:
It said I were beaten and knocked unconscious while out drinking. When I awoke, me powers as the Fool of Portend had been taken from me.
...ye copied the question from one message and the answer from another?
Ye're lucky ye been confirmed five times over, mate.
I have so many PMs
But I thought I asked MrT to seer Ahava, turns out I asked him to seer discrider but he seered ahava that night. It was because I wasn't confirmed yet so he didnt trust me. That Gizzy question was just an example he gave me of the phrasing he was gonna use on his target that night. I copied that question and then the results on Ahava. I'm dumb.
INAGTP, aka INANTP the Brilliant, is the smartest ghost
Just thought I would post that for posterity's sake.
Yar boooo
OoooOOOOOooo
Why didn't you attack me last night?
You knew it would confirm you. I have basically zero health and die to any attack of any strength. If you had attacked me, it would have shown up in narration.
Yet you obviously didn't attack me because nothing was there. And there was no busdrive because I got my attack buffed by the weaponsmiths.
I've already told ye everything I know. I got no explanation, 'cept...
...BurnagePhalla, mate.
I mean you have an explanation, you just don't want to tell us that you're mafia.
Also he's a pirate.
DAMN YOU BRITS AND YOUR FAKE HOLIDAYS!
so glad i set an alarm to wake up for vote close, and see it gets extended.
not sarcasm, birdbeard gets to have a nice adult beverage, and go back to sleep.
wacriminal
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I fought the ObiLaw, and the ObiLaw won, mate.
Now I think this is a trick and there is another mafia left...
Not a vote bomb, mate.