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[MTG]-Cataclysmic Gearhulk is Awful and I Hate It And You Should Too

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    wild and crazy theory: instead of devotion, the amonkhet gods have suspend

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    Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    Amonkhet gods: the first creatures with Storm

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    honestly, i wouldn't rule out "Storm, but for a creature's ETB effect" as a mechanic we'll see one day

    "this creature gets X +1/+1 counters, where X is the number of spells you've cast this turn" is a lot easier to deal with than grapeshot or tendrils or flusterstorm

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    i'm not a super huge fan of the big 3 decks for standard right now but its fine as a format for playing at least

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    Dis'Dis' Registered User regular
    honestly, i wouldn't rule out "Storm, but for a creature's ETB effect" as a mechanic we'll see one day

    "this creature gets X +1/+1 counters, where X is the number of spells you've cast this turn" is a lot easier to deal with than grapeshot or tendrils or flusterstorm

    See one day?

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Dis' wrote: »
    honestly, i wouldn't rule out "Storm, but for a creature's ETB effect" as a mechanic we'll see one day

    "this creature gets X +1/+1 counters, where X is the number of spells you've cast this turn" is a lot easier to deal with than grapeshot or tendrils or flusterstorm

    See one day?

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    well to be fair that's from the future!

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    SnowbearSnowbear Registered User regular
    I just think it's kind of funny that Wizards says "Ban announcement incoming" I saw tons of articles on different sites all predicting what's getting cut and why and then yesterday
    "No bans, carry on"

    It's like the biggest 'Psyche!' hahaha

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    ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Snowbear wrote: »
    I just think it's kind of funny that Wizards says "Ban announcement incoming" I saw tons of articles on different sites all predicting what's getting cut and why and then yesterday
    "No bans, carry on"

    It's like the biggest 'Psyche!' hahaha

    Technically it's the truth though.

    "We're making a ban announcement." Then: "The announcement is, there will be no bans at this time. Carry on."

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    new Judge promos
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    APODionysusAPODionysus Registered User regular
    I don't understand Homeward Path. What's that even for?

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2017
    I don't understand Homeward Path. What's that even for?

    "stop stealing my shit"

    or

    "take back this pact you gave me"

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    TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    I don't understand Homeward Path. What's that even for?

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    And similar, in EDH.

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    NullzoneNullzone Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Blanks effects like Reins of Power, Insurrection, Donate -> Steel Golem, etc

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    I don't understand Homeward Path. What's that even for?

    dubious challenge

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    NullzoneNullzone Registered User regular
    I didn't even think about Dubious Challenge, hmm

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    It can be a necessity in EDH

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    It can be a necessity in EDH

    Yeah it was one of the new cards introduced in the first Commander release (Kaalia et al.) and everyone who saw it either said "FINALLY!" or "DAMN!".

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    Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    Pretty nice in Zedruu to take back all your own shit immediately after gaining life/drawing cards

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    Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    Whoah I love the art on that Avacyn promo that I will never have :(

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    making a judge promo avacyn is literally writing a cheque

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Aww. I did not get any exemplar noms this wave or I'd trade with you. There's always judges looking to offload their promos though. I'd ask around locally or check Facebook groups.

    Also the prices go down the longer they're out And definitely by next wave

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    MadpoetMadpoet Registered User regular
    About 20 years ago, a stripper stole most of my Magic cards. Long since water under the bridge, the story isn't as funny as the title. Whatever.
    The cards remaining were a hodgepodge of Ice Age, Fallen Kingdoms, and Unlimited, plus a few sentimental cards like random beta lands and the like. Coolest card in there was a French Shivan Dragon from when I tried to learn the language in college.

    My girl and I just started playing again, so I decided I'd go through the bin of singles and see if I had anything interesting. I was pleased to discover that my black bordered Ornithopters were playable, and some of the land wasn't too badly wrecked. And then I found something I'd picked up on a whim and thrown in my funsies deck...

    What's the going rate on a well played beta Chaos Orb?

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    WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    Couple hundred bucks maybe, depending on condition

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    If Im not mistaken those beta basics are worth a little bit also.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i'm gonna be bummed if the slot of "planeswalker native to this plane" is filled by Bolas in Amonkhet

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    I would assume you save bolas for hour.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    is filled by Bolas in Amonkhet block

    :P

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    WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    i'm gonna be bummed if the slot of "planeswalker native to this plane" is filled by Bolas in Amonkhet

    I doubt this will happen; they printed narset when sarkhan was also from tarkir, for example

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    my concern is mostly that we saw the Ultra Pro stuff for Amonkhet today

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    which is a whole bunch of gatewatch, and makes me suspect that the focus will wind up being Team Vs Bolas

    at this point with something like kaladesh we'd seen all sorts of saheeli, even though saheeli didn't really do much of anything during the kaladesh story and only sort of showed up in AER

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    is filled by Bolas in Amonkhet block

    :P

    Are there not two? Oh god there arnt two. Gross.

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    Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    Whippy wrote: »
    i'm gonna be bummed if the slot of "planeswalker native to this plane" is filled by Bolas in Amonkhet

    I doubt this will happen; they printed narset when sarkhan was also from tarkir, for example

    Similarly Chandra was also from Kaladesh. Although I don't have high hopes from what I've seen. Maybe there'll be a new walker in Hour of Devastation?

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    KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    Just to check: Zendikar AND Innistrad rotate out when the first Amonkhet set falls, leaving us with just Kaladesh and 2/3 of Amonkhet?

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Kay wrote: »
    Just to check: Zendikar AND Innistrad rotate out when the first Amonkhet set falls, leaving us with just Kaladesh and 2/3 of Amonkhet?

    No

    Zendikar and Innistrad rotate out when the set after Hour of Devestation comes out.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Kay wrote: »
    Just to check: Zendikar AND Innistrad rotate out when the first Amonkhet set falls, leaving us with just Kaladesh and 2/3 of Amonkhet?

    No

    Zendikar and Innistrad rotate out when the set after Hour of Devestation comes out.

    Correct. As of the last time they changed their minds, we're back to "nothing rotates until October" mode.

    The previous model would have kicked out only Battle/Oath, leaving Shadows/Moon until October.

    Also I'm not sure where Kay is getting "2/3s" of anything from.

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    NullzoneNullzone Registered User regular
    Avacyn will likely be in next wave of exemplar foils as well, and old Exemplar foils frequently end up in judge conference packets, so keep an eye down the line.

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    KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Also I'm not sure where Kay is getting "2/3s" of anything from.

    A large set is closer to 2/3 the total block than 1/2.

    I totally forgot that Amonkhet is out really soon, for some reason I was sure it was October.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Kay wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Also I'm not sure where Kay is getting "2/3s" of anything from.

    A large set is closer to 2/3 the total block than 1/2.

    Ah ok. That makes sense from a sheer number-of-cards perspective.


    EDIT: Watching last night's VSL, and Randy brought up a very interesting point:

    There is no way that CopyCat survives through its entire natural 18-month lifespan in Standard, right? Like... the ban didn't have to happen this week, but it is coming somewhere down the road in all likelihood.

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    metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    EDIT: Watching last night's VSL, and Randy brought up a very interesting point:

    There is no way that CopyCat survives through its entire natural 18-month lifespan in Standard, right? Like... the ban didn't have to happen this week, but it is coming somewhere down the road in all likelihood.

    I enjoyed Brian Demars' article on CFB discussing the matter, especially his point regarding the degree with which CopyCat's existence can diminish enthusiasm for Amonkhet spoilers if we're all just going "well, fuck, that's cool, but can it deal with a bajillion kitties?"

    I think what confuses me about it not getting banned is that they have long-since admitted not discovering the combo prior to its release, which suggests that they can't possibly have been developing responses to it for Amonkhet, due to the timeline of set development. So it stands to reason that yeah, they'll probably have to ban it before the next PT, so you might as well ban it now.

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    Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Kay wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Also I'm not sure where Kay is getting "2/3s" of anything from.

    A large set is closer to 2/3 the total block than 1/2.

    Ah ok. That makes sense from a sheer number-of-cards perspective.


    EDIT: Watching last night's VSL, and Randy brought up a very interesting point:

    There is no way that CopyCat survives through its entire natural 18-month lifespan in Standard, right? Like... the ban didn't have to happen this week, but it is coming somewhere down the road in all likelihood.
    Good news, everyone! A mechanic we're introducing in Amonkhet is "Megaexiled". This makes permanents that are Exiled well and truly removed from the game, and they don't come back! Eh? EH?

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    WBR, Instant: Pay the owner of target permanent the median price of that card on TCGPlayer, then tear that card up. (If it is sleeved, remove the sleeve first.)

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