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    WingedWeaselWingedWeasel Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Tournament Update

    We have enough players for tomorrow (though since we have a couple maybes in there anyone who still wants in should say so as you could still get to play), which means we need team captains. Any volunteers?

    I dunno if anyone is casting this tournament but I feel as though you need to do your best Mickey Cantor impression the entire time
    I ordered Chinese food 2 hours ago! 2 hours?! Seriously?!

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    Frozenzen wrote: »
    Dibby wrote: »
    Aurial.

    I got yelled at and called names by a thrall yesterday. Because my heals were too low. Six minutes in. When he had less damage then everyone then me.

    Like, ok sweetie. My heals depend on yall actually doing damage.

    My favorite moments as pubbie auriel is winning hero or siege damage because my team refuses to either waveclear or fight enemies.

    psssst

    you can't be pubby auriel

    pubby refers to your rando teammates that you get matched with, not yourself :P

    Naw, if you're soloq-ing you're still a pubby.

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Maybe the real pubby was the friends we made along the way.

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    General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    Why is Alarak so much FUN?

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    SivrajSivraj Registered User regular
    Only because he wills it.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    MNC Dover presents: Career Knight's Mutator Madness!

    General Info:
    • This Saturday, June 24th at 12pm(PST)/3pm(EST)
    • We need streamers
    • Total time commitment will be ~2-3 hours total.
    • Try and show up a few minutes early if possible to get lobbies and voice chat set-up
    • Add everyone to avoid confusion
    • All above info is subject to change

    Official rules:
    • Bo3
    • Each team bans 2 maps before starting
    • Coin flip to determine who goes first
    • Winner determines first mutation and if they want to pick map or first draft selection
    • Draft as normal (Team League) unless QM Rules being used (see below)
    • Losing team chooses next mutation as well as map or first draft
    • Continue until winner

    The Players:
    MNC Dover (#1994) - Bronze (Tank/Assassin)
    Kieri (#1440) - Gold (Assassin/Support)
    CareerKnight (#1440) - Gold (Fill)
    Grundlestiltskin (Karulytic#1874) - Gold (anything but Assassin)
    Dibby (#1582) - Master (Tank/Assassin)
    Ducks (#1277) - Master (Specialist / Assassin)
    MMMig (#1238) - Gold (Specialist / Assassin / Tank)
    CareerKnight's Brother (FrodoTheHutt#1634) Silver (Roles?)
    Invictus (#1222) - Silver (tank/fill)
    Ninetjer (#1970) - Platinum (Assassin/fill)

    Prior Tournament Players
    Kime (#1822) - Platinum (Fill)
    Jookie (butts#1743) - Platinum (Assassin/Warrior)
    Korror (Nullpointer#1191) - Gold (Support/Specialist)
    Morgancoke (#1589) Platinum(ish) (D.Va/Tracer)
    Etiowsa (#1986) - Diamond (Assassin/Fill)
    Nhyt (Dreamwalker#1530) - Platinum (Assassin/Support)
    Auralynx (#1772) - Gold (Tank/Fill)
    ObiFett(#1175) - Bronze (Any Role)
    WingedWeasel (#1173) - Diamond (Warrior/Fill)
    So It Goes (SoItGoes#11597) - Platinum (Assassin/Support)
    SegaTai (#1225) - Gold (Fill)
    Squatfurd (#1814) - Diamond (Fill)
    Finnith (CavilatRest#1874) - Platinum (Tank/Assassin)
    Toothy (Waddledoo#1497) - Platinum (Assassin/Warrior)
    The Escape Goat (EscapeGoat#1913) - Gold (Tanks/Mages)
    John (cptkumquat#1987) - Silver (Support/Specialist)
    MadaraUchiha (#1121) - Diamond (Fill)

    Reserves:
    TBD

    Mutations:
    QM Rules - Pretty basic and one of the few supported by custom game options. The teams will have no knowledge of what the other team is doing for their comp. Teams will get one ban each at the start.

    Warcraft vs All - The hero pool is divided into Warcraft heroes and everyone else. A coin toss to decide which team gets first pick of which hero pool they will use for their choices in the draft.

    Old School - No hero newer than Thrall (drops the roster down to 33 choices fyi)

    Blind Bluff - The match uses the same settings as the qm one but the teams act like its a draft with the trick being the enemy team can bluff about who their picking. When picking a hero the team says two hero's names, one of them being true. The enemy team then picks which one they believe is the real one and behave accordingly (aka they treat that hero as being out of the pool but the second one is still a viable choice).

    Maps:
    All maps will be available but each team, starting with whoever loses the coin flip, will get to ban 2 maps.

    Commentators:
    Bobkins Flymo
    Inquisitor77
    This

    Twitch Steams:
    TBD
    This (Commentary Game 1)
    Milk Ducks (Commentary Game 2)

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    dav3ybdav3yb Registered User regular
    So I'm out of town at the moment, at a nice state resort in Kentucky, but the wifi here is kinda ass. I'm on a decent laptop, but apparently my mouse batteries lost all their charge, so a friend of mine and I played cho gall last night, i was on a TouchPad playing gall, that was some kind of experience. We only did AI, because there is no way in going to risk a DC in a real game.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    We need to get our teams picked, so I'll be assigning captain status to the two most obvious choices; @milk ducks and @Dibby. I've flipped a coin and Ducks won the toss. So Ducks gets the choice of first draft choice (alternating picks) or the choice to have first option in the mutator/map/draft phase.

    I'm assuming @this is still streaming? I had streaming confirmations from @Inquisitor77 and @Bobkins Flymo as well. Do we want to have 2 streams or perhaps try a 3-person commentary? Up to you guys. If either Inq or Bob have their own stream, shoot me the Twitch info.

    Finally, I'd like confirmation from all the players that are involved to make sure they are still good for tomorrow. The wife and I are in (and I assume CareerKnight and his bro), so I just need to hear from @MMMig @Grundlestiltskin @Ninetjer @Invictus.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    I played Auriel in two hero league games last night, in both of them I had guldan on my team which worked out generally okay.

    The first game we eked out a winion win, because the other team turned out to be just dumber enough to allow that to happen. Our Jaina was so. Bad.

    The second one on blackhearts bay our anub was ham from draft chat and talked about how he was going to super dive...the team didn't understand the meaning of the word group up, we still only barely lost.

    Auriel is still tons of fun and I can make sick plays with her but it's not helpful when you have to explain to teammates

    - I need you to do damage so I can heal. Running away out of the middle of the teamfight as your health evaporates gives me no energy. Smash their faces I got u.
    - Please don't hard engage right as I'm walking back from spawn and haven't generated energy yet.
    - I cannot get close enough to heal you if you dive one thousand feet into their back line. (The lament of all healers except khara)
    - Try grouping with low health teammates for maximum efficiency! Or you could dodge out of my aoe heal that works too ><

    So It Goes on
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    InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    I am still good for tomorrow at 3 Eastern!

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    morgan_cokemorgan_coke Registered User regular
    People, people, if you're playing pubby Auriel, you HAVE to take Searing Light at 1 and Energized Cord at 7. You just absolutely CANNOT depend on folks for damage.

    Also, I really don't think a lot of you understand just how much energy Auriel can generate off of Energized Cord. It's 50% of damage vs. minion waves. and 100% vs. heroes, instead of 15%/50%. It's huge and ridiculous increase. In a teamfight, in 4 seconds, you can get almost a full bar all by yourself, anything the idiot wearing your hat contributes is just bonus.

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    AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Tournament Update

    We have enough players for tomorrow (though since we have a couple maybes in there anyone who still wants in should say so as you could still get to play), which means we need team captains. Any volunteers?

    Just to put it somewhere other than in a whisper with you, you guys are free to treat me as a reserve if I'm online, including in other Blizzard games. My plans are up in the air.

    E: I'd drop-in for commentating, as well, if there's a need.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I played Auriel in two hero league games last night, in both of them I had guldan on my team which worked out generally okay.

    The first game we eked out a winion win, because the other team turned out to be just dumber enough to allow that to happen. Our Jaina was so. Bad.

    The second one on blackhearts bay our anub was ham from draft chat and talked about how he was going to super dive...the team didn't understand the meaning of the word group up, we still only barely lost.

    Auriel is still tons of fun and I can make sick plays with her but it's not helpful when you have to explain to teammates

    - I need you to do damage so I can heal. Running away out of the middle of the teamfight as your health evaporates gives me no energy. Smash their faces I got u.
    - Please don't hard engage right as I'm walking back from spawn and haven't generated energy yet.
    - I cannot get close enough to heal you if you dive one thousand feet into their back line. (The lament of all healers except khara)
    - Try grouping with low health teammates for maximum efficiency! Or you could dodge out of my aoe heal that works too ><

    You play enough Uther or Auriel or Stitches and you realise the sickest jukes are made by your own teammates desperately trying to die despite your best efforts.

    I don't even bother with Helping Hand on Stitches 90% of the time.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    People, people, if you're playing pubby Auriel, you HAVE to take Searing Light at 1 and Energized Cord at 7. You just absolutely CANNOT depend on folks for damage.

    Also, I really don't think a lot of you understand just how much energy Auriel can generate off of Energized Cord. It's 50% of damage vs. minion waves. and 100% vs. heroes, instead of 15%/50%. It's huge and ridiculous increase. In a teamfight, in 4 seconds, you can get almost a full bar all by yourself, anything the idiot wearing your hat contributes is just bonus.

    And Searing Light is basically a 30% energy refund on a heal on your melee or on someone getting meleed.

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I played Auriel in two hero league games last night, in both of them I had guldan on my team which worked out generally okay.

    The first game we eked out a winion win, because the other team turned out to be just dumber enough to allow that to happen. Our Jaina was so. Bad.

    The second one on blackhearts bay our anub was ham from draft chat and talked about how he was going to super dive...the team didn't understand the meaning of the word group up, we still only barely lost.

    Auriel is still tons of fun and I can make sick plays with her but it's not helpful when you have to explain to teammates

    - I need you to do damage so I can heal. Running away out of the middle of the teamfight as your health evaporates gives me no energy. Smash their faces I got u.
    - Please don't hard engage right as I'm walking back from spawn and haven't generated energy yet.
    - I cannot get close enough to heal you if you dive one thousand feet into their back line. (The lament of all healers except khara)
    - Try grouping with low health teammates for maximum efficiency! Or you could dodge out of my aoe heal that works too ><

    There are very few things that tilt me more than drafting an Auriel and then either not getting an appropriate battery or watching the battery be absolutely fuck-all useless.

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    ToothyToothy Registered User regular
    I might be able to play tomorrow. I'm on call for work, but I'd like to!

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
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    General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    Searing light is superb and imo the best choice to use when you expect competence from your opponents, but I still love trying to find excuses to take the talent that reduces the cool down of sweep every time that you hit a hero with the center.

    Take that when everyone wants to spam low level bot matches to finish up one of those "play with friends" quests like the ongoing Malthael event. Who needs cool downs? Who needs mana? Every moment of this team fight will be me dropping aoes. Look at me, I'm the DPS now. Valla and I are pushing mid to the core. You guys can come too if you want.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I played Auriel in two hero league games last night, in both of them I had guldan on my team which worked out generally okay.

    The first game we eked out a winion win, because the other team turned out to be just dumber enough to allow that to happen. Our Jaina was so. Bad.

    The second one on blackhearts bay our anub was ham from draft chat and talked about how he was going to super dive...the team didn't understand the meaning of the word group up, we still only barely lost.

    Auriel is still tons of fun and I can make sick plays with her but it's not helpful when you have to explain to teammates

    - I need you to do damage so I can heal. Running away out of the middle of the teamfight as your health evaporates gives me no energy. Smash their faces I got u.
    - Please don't hard engage right as I'm walking back from spawn and haven't generated energy yet.
    - I cannot get close enough to heal you if you dive one thousand feet into their back line. (The lament of all healers except khara)
    - Try grouping with low health teammates for maximum efficiency! Or you could dodge out of my aoe heal that works too ><

    There are very few things that tilt me more than drafting an Auriel and then either not getting an appropriate battery or watching the battery be absolutely fuck-all useless.

    If we didn't have good batteries already in those drafts I would have picked someone else, yeah. The guldans were mostly not useless. He kinds just shits damage even if you aren't super good with him. I was late picking both drafts so that helped. I have literally every support so I gots options.

    In one of those drafts I was last pick and the other team banned BW as their second ban. Heh. Okay guys.

    So It Goes on
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    AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I played Auriel in two hero league games last night, in both of them I had guldan on my team which worked out generally okay.

    The first game we eked out a winion win, because the other team turned out to be just dumber enough to allow that to happen. Our Jaina was so. Bad.

    The second one on blackhearts bay our anub was ham from draft chat and talked about how he was going to super dive...the team didn't understand the meaning of the word group up, we still only barely lost.

    Auriel is still tons of fun and I can make sick plays with her but it's not helpful when you have to explain to teammates

    - I need you to do damage so I can heal. Running away out of the middle of the teamfight as your health evaporates gives me no energy. Smash their faces I got u.
    - Please don't hard engage right as I'm walking back from spawn and haven't generated energy yet.
    - I cannot get close enough to heal you if you dive one thousand feet into their back line. (The lament of all healers except khara)
    - Try grouping with low health teammates for maximum efficiency! Or you could dodge out of my aoe heal that works too ><

    There are very few things that tilt me more than drafting an Auriel and then either not getting an appropriate battery or watching the battery be absolutely fuck-all useless.

    If we didn't have good batteries already in those drafts I would have picked someone else, yeah. The guldans were mostly not useless. He kinds just shits damage even if you aren't super good with him. I was late picking both drafts so that helped. I have literally every support so I gots options.

    In one of those drafts I was last pick and the other team banned BW as their second ban. Heh. Okay guys.

    Definitely not about you in particular, but the other thing about pub Auriels that can be infuriating is the random Aegis attempts that do more harm than good. Prior to the Azmo game Mmmig mentioned (which I think was probably one of the ones after I bailed, actually?) we got one where our Auriel was dead-set on locking me in place with Aegis rather than letting me Q to safety as Kharazim!

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    We need to get our teams picked, so I'll be assigning captain status to the two most obvious choices; milk ducks and Dibby. I've flipped a coin and Ducks won the toss. So Ducks gets the choice of first draft choice (alternating picks) or the choice to have first option in the mutator/map/draft phase.

    I'm assuming this is still streaming? I had streaming confirmations from Inquisitor77 and Bobkins Flymo as well. Do we want to have 2 streams or perhaps try a 3-person commentary? Up to you guys. If either Inq or Bob have their own stream, shoot me the Twitch info.

    Finally, I'd like confirmation from all the players that are involved to make sure they are still good for tomorrow. The wife and I are in (and I assume CareerKnight and his bro), so I just need to hear from MMMig Grundlestiltskin Ninetjer Invictus.

    Rad. LET'S GO DUCKS. 1V1 ME IRL. IN THE STREET. FITE ME.

    COME AT ME BRO

    anyway!

    How exactly does team drafting work? Or rather, when is that going to occur?

    Shit y'alls, gonna have to come up with a bomb-ass teamname too.....

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    morgan_cokemorgan_coke Registered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I played Auriel in two hero league games last night, in both of them I had guldan on my team which worked out generally okay.

    The first game we eked out a winion win, because the other team turned out to be just dumber enough to allow that to happen. Our Jaina was so. Bad.

    The second one on blackhearts bay our anub was ham from draft chat and talked about how he was going to super dive...the team didn't understand the meaning of the word group up, we still only barely lost.

    Auriel is still tons of fun and I can make sick plays with her but it's not helpful when you have to explain to teammates

    - I need you to do damage so I can heal. Running away out of the middle of the teamfight as your health evaporates gives me no energy. Smash their faces I got u.
    - Please don't hard engage right as I'm walking back from spawn and haven't generated energy yet.
    - I cannot get close enough to heal you if you dive one thousand feet into their back line. (The lament of all healers except khara)
    - Try grouping with low health teammates for maximum efficiency! Or you could dodge out of my aoe heal that works too ><

    There are very few things that tilt me more than drafting an Auriel and then either not getting an appropriate battery or watching the battery be absolutely fuck-all useless.

    If we didn't have good batteries already in those drafts I would have picked someone else, yeah. The guldans were mostly not useless. He kinds just shits damage even if you aren't super good with him. I was late picking both drafts so that helped. I have literally every support so I gots options.

    In one of those drafts I was last pick and the other team banned BW as their second ban. Heh. Okay guys.

    Definitely not about you in particular, but the other thing about pub Auriels that can be infuriating is the random Aegis attempts that do more harm than good. Prior to the Azmo game Mmmig mentioned (which I think was probably one of the ones after I bailed, actually?) we got one where our Auriel was dead-set on locking me in place with Aegis rather than letting me Q to safety as Kharazim!

    Void Prison. OMG. Zeratuls, STOP TAKING THAT. I have so many games where like 1/2 or 3/4ths of the way through I'll be thinking, man, their Zeratul is really on point with these Void Prisons... only to realize the Zera is on our team. Wahp wahp wahp.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    We need to get our teams picked, so I'll be assigning captain status to the two most obvious choices; milk ducks and Dibby. I've flipped a coin and Ducks won the toss. So Ducks gets the choice of first draft choice (alternating picks) or the choice to have first option in the mutator/map/draft phase.

    I'm assuming this is still streaming? I had streaming confirmations from Inquisitor77 and Bobkins Flymo as well. Do we want to have 2 streams or perhaps try a 3-person commentary? Up to you guys. If either Inq or Bob have their own stream, shoot me the Twitch info.

    Finally, I'd like confirmation from all the players that are involved to make sure they are still good for tomorrow. The wife and I are in (and I assume CareerKnight and his bro), so I just need to hear from MMMig Grundlestiltskin Ninetjer Invictus.

    Rad. LET'S GO DUCKS. 1V1 ME IRL. IN THE STREET. FITE ME.

    COME AT ME BRO

    anyway!

    How exactly does team drafting work? Or rather, when is that going to occur?

    Shit y'alls, gonna have to come up with a bomb-ass teamname too.....

    You and @milk ducks hop on b.bet chat with me today and we knock it out.

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Dibby wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    We need to get our teams picked, so I'll be assigning captain status to the two most obvious choices; milk ducks and Dibby. I've flipped a coin and Ducks won the toss. So Ducks gets the choice of first draft choice (alternating picks) or the choice to have first option in the mutator/map/draft phase.

    I'm assuming this is still streaming? I had streaming confirmations from Inquisitor77 and Bobkins Flymo as well. Do we want to have 2 streams or perhaps try a 3-person commentary? Up to you guys. If either Inq or Bob have their own stream, shoot me the Twitch info.

    Finally, I'd like confirmation from all the players that are involved to make sure they are still good for tomorrow. The wife and I are in (and I assume CareerKnight and his bro), so I just need to hear from MMMig Grundlestiltskin Ninetjer Invictus.

    Rad. LET'S GO DUCKS. 1V1 ME IRL. IN THE STREET. FITE ME.

    COME AT ME BRO

    anyway!

    How exactly does team drafting work? Or rather, when is that going to occur?

    Shit y'alls, gonna have to come up with a bomb-ass teamname too.....

    You and milk ducks hop on b.bet chat with me today and we knock it out.

    Awesome. I'll be on BNet all day today, so just hit me up!

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    NinetjerNinetjer Registered User new member
    @MNC Dover I am confirmed for tomorrow.

    Will add friends this eve and be around at least a few minutes before 3pm EST.

    Looking forward to it!

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    Dunktrain turned me on to CDR on Q at level 1 on Auriel and it is by far the best talent on that tier for QM/HL. It is so much value being able to spam Qs and collect massive amounts of hope for nothing.

    At 7 the globe talent or cdr on W are my favorite 2 talents. If you have a strong battery like Valla or Gul'dan Bursting Light is insane.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    So I know when you get an armor buff in the game, you get a little silver shield next to your name. I've also seen purple and red shields. Are those... negative spell armor and physical armor respectively?

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    ThisThis Registered User regular
    @MNC Dover Yep I'll be commentating/streaming. Sounds like there are four people interested in casting? If that's the case then I guess two streams. I think three in one might be a bit crowded, but I'm up for giving it a shot if it comes to that.

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    JookieJookie Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    kime wrote: »
    So I know when you get an armor buff in the game, you get a little silver shield next to your name. I've also seen purple and red shields. Are those... negative spell armor and physical armor respectively?

    I've never seen red, purple is just armor loss - nothing as far as I can remember reduces only physical or only magic armor.. The only red thing is the red cross representing healing reduction.

    Also Cassia's talent to ignore physical armor at twenty doesn't bypass block which I think is silly.

    Jookie on
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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    I'm at work, but I'll hit you guys up when I get home and see if I can make it tomorrow.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I played Auriel in two hero league games last night, in both of them I had guldan on my team which worked out generally okay.

    The first game we eked out a winion win, because the other team turned out to be just dumber enough to allow that to happen. Our Jaina was so. Bad.

    The second one on blackhearts bay our anub was ham from draft chat and talked about how he was going to super dive...the team didn't understand the meaning of the word group up, we still only barely lost.

    Auriel is still tons of fun and I can make sick plays with her but it's not helpful when you have to explain to teammates

    - I need you to do damage so I can heal. Running away out of the middle of the teamfight as your health evaporates gives me no energy. Smash their faces I got u.
    - Please don't hard engage right as I'm walking back from spawn and haven't generated energy yet.
    - I cannot get close enough to heal you if you dive one thousand feet into their back line. (The lament of all healers except khara)
    - Try grouping with low health teammates for maximum efficiency! Or you could dodge out of my aoe heal that works too ><

    There are very few things that tilt me more than drafting an Auriel and then either not getting an appropriate battery or watching the battery be absolutely fuck-all useless.

    If we didn't have good batteries already in those drafts I would have picked someone else, yeah. The guldans were mostly not useless. He kinds just shits damage even if you aren't super good with him. I was late picking both drafts so that helped. I have literally every support so I gots options.

    In one of those drafts I was last pick and the other team banned BW as their second ban. Heh. Okay guys.

    Definitely not about you in particular, but the other thing about pub Auriels that can be infuriating is the random Aegis attempts that do more harm than good. Prior to the Azmo game Mmmig mentioned (which I think was probably one of the ones after I bailed, actually?) we got one where our Auriel was dead-set on locking me in place with Aegis rather than letting me Q to safety as Kharazim!
    Listen I have never thrown a bad aegis and that's final

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    Also, speaking of D.va and big shot as we have been recently, I killed a D.va with full energy 3 or 4 times last night in the same game as Greymane. If you have GFFT, E AA Q R kills her if she's at anything less than full hp, from a massive range post-13. She was trying to poke with Big Shot and GGWP autos, and I just deleted her over and over. 0.5 seconds doesn't sound like a long cast time, but given her HP in pilot mode, it's almost an eternity.

    Big Shot is a very risky talent, lol.

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    morgan_cokemorgan_coke Registered User regular
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    Knight_ wrote: »
    Also, speaking of D.va and big shot as we have been recently, I killed a D.va with full energy 3 or 4 times last night in the same game as Greymane. If you have GFFT, E AA Q R kills her if she's at anything less than full hp, from a massive range post-13. She was trying to poke with Big Shot and GGWP autos, and I just deleted her over and over. 0.5 seconds doesn't sound like a long cast time, but given her HP in pilot mode, it's almost an eternity.

    Big Shot is a very risky talent, lol.

    In the name of god why would she take GGWP AND Big Shot?!? Big Shot necessitates Torpedo Dash at 16. Also, if Greymane has shown he can kill you from full health like that, if he comes at you, you walk away or just get in the mech immediately. I don't think running into a bad D.Va player who repeatedly fails to learn from her mistakes, and has a bad build, is really a good reason to dis the better ult talent.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    I sometimes take both out of greed. I almost always regret it :P

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    Also, speaking of D.va and big shot as we have been recently, I killed a D.va with full energy 3 or 4 times last night in the same game as Greymane. If you have GFFT, E AA Q R kills her if she's at anything less than full hp, from a massive range post-13. She was trying to poke with Big Shot and GGWP autos, and I just deleted her over and over. 0.5 seconds doesn't sound like a long cast time, but given her HP in pilot mode, it's almost an eternity.

    Big Shot is a very risky talent, lol.

    In the name of god why would she take GGWP AND Big Shot?!? Big Shot necessitates Torpedo Dash at 16. Also, if Greymane has shown he can kill you from full health like that, if he comes at you, you walk away or just get in the mech immediately. I don't think running into a bad D.Va player who repeatedly fails to learn from her mistakes, and has a bad build, is really a good reason to dis the better ult talent.

    You can take both if you're not in danger of getting dived on. I do it in most games, honestly.

    I'll take Torpedo if I need it, of course. And if I REALLY need it, Nanoweave.

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    morgan_cokemorgan_coke Registered User regular
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    Torpedo Dash is the key to the 1vX fight, along with Pew Pew Pew at 20, though you can pull it off with just Dash, it's simply harder.

    EDIT: I would take both Suppressing Fire and Nanoweave Suit over GGWP

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    Also, speaking of D.va and big shot as we have been recently, I killed a D.va with full energy 3 or 4 times last night in the same game as Greymane. If you have GFFT, E AA Q R kills her if she's at anything less than full hp, from a massive range post-13. She was trying to poke with Big Shot and GGWP autos, and I just deleted her over and over. 0.5 seconds doesn't sound like a long cast time, but given her HP in pilot mode, it's almost an eternity.

    Big Shot is a very risky talent, lol.

    In the name of god why would she take GGWP AND Big Shot?!? Big Shot necessitates Torpedo Dash at 16. Also, if Greymane has shown he can kill you from full health like that, if he comes at you, you walk away or just get in the mech immediately. I don't think running into a bad D.Va player who repeatedly fails to learn from her mistakes, and has a bad build, is really a good reason to dis the better ult talent.

    If greymane being within e range of you means you die in less than 0.5 seconds, none of those talents matter. Torpedo Dash just gives him more time to kill you because GFFT doesn't care about your movement, and the EAAQ come out instantly.

    And if being within E range is too dangerous to use big shot and forcing you to get in the mech, you can't use big shot basically ever against him. Which is what happened to her.

    Big Shot is a good talent, but it's not an always talent and it's extremely dangerous into higher players with high burst characters. You have to look at the comp and see what you can do. If it was a heavy frontline low burst comp lacking in hard cc? sure, I'll go Pew Pew Pew and reset all day. But into ranged/burst heavy comps it's dangerous at best.

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    morgan_cokemorgan_coke Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    Knight_ wrote: »
    Also, speaking of D.va and big shot as we have been recently, I killed a D.va with full energy 3 or 4 times last night in the same game as Greymane. If you have GFFT, E AA Q R kills her if she's at anything less than full hp, from a massive range post-13. She was trying to poke with Big Shot and GGWP autos, and I just deleted her over and over. 0.5 seconds doesn't sound like a long cast time, but given her HP in pilot mode, it's almost an eternity.

    Big Shot is a very risky talent, lol.

    In the name of god why would she take GGWP AND Big Shot?!? Big Shot necessitates Torpedo Dash at 16. Also, if Greymane has shown he can kill you from full health like that, if he comes at you, you walk away or just get in the mech immediately. I don't think running into a bad D.Va player who repeatedly fails to learn from her mistakes, and has a bad build, is really a good reason to dis the better ult talent.

    If greymane being within e range of you means you die in less than 0.5 seconds, none of those talents matter. Torpedo Dash just gives him more time to kill you because GFFT doesn't care about your movement, and the EAAQ come out instantly.

    And if being within E range is too dangerous to use big shot and forcing you to get in the mech, you can't use big shot basically ever against him. Which is what happened to her.

    Big Shot is a good talent, but it's not an always talent and it's extremely dangerous into higher players with high burst characters. You have to look at the comp and see what you can do. If it was a heavy frontline low burst comp lacking in hard cc? sure, I'll go Pew Pew Pew and reset all day. But into ranged/burst heavy comps it's dangerous at best.

    Dude, you were playing against a bad D.Va, just accept it. You found a baddie and punished them. GJ, that's what you're supposed to do when you find one, but it doesn't make a talent, build or character bad. Although wow that's a terrible D.Va build, running GGWP and Big Shot together.

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    Knight_ wrote: »
    Also, speaking of D.va and big shot as we have been recently, I killed a D.va with full energy 3 or 4 times last night in the same game as Greymane. If you have GFFT, E AA Q R kills her if she's at anything less than full hp, from a massive range post-13. She was trying to poke with Big Shot and GGWP autos, and I just deleted her over and over. 0.5 seconds doesn't sound like a long cast time, but given her HP in pilot mode, it's almost an eternity.

    Big Shot is a very risky talent, lol.

    In the name of god why would she take GGWP AND Big Shot?!? Big Shot necessitates Torpedo Dash at 16. Also, if Greymane has shown he can kill you from full health like that, if he comes at you, you walk away or just get in the mech immediately. I don't think running into a bad D.Va player who repeatedly fails to learn from her mistakes, and has a bad build, is really a good reason to dis the better ult talent.

    If greymane being within e range of you means you die in less than 0.5 seconds, none of those talents matter. Torpedo Dash just gives him more time to kill you because GFFT doesn't care about your movement, and the EAAQ come out instantly.

    And if being within E range is too dangerous to use big shot and forcing you to get in the mech, you can't use big shot basically ever against him. Which is what happened to her.

    Big Shot is a good talent, but it's not an always talent and it's extremely dangerous into higher players with high burst characters. You have to look at the comp and see what you can do. If it was a heavy frontline low burst comp lacking in hard cc? sure, I'll go Pew Pew Pew and reset all day. But into ranged/burst heavy comps it's dangerous at best.

    Dude, you were playing against a bad D.Va, just accept it. You found a baddie and punished them. GJ, that's what you're supposed to do when you find one, but it doesn't make a talent, build or character bad. Although wow that's a terrible D.Va build, running GGWP and Big Shot together.

    I get you're super opinionated about this because you've been maining D.Va, but by your standards like 90% of D.Vas out there are going to be bad D.Vas.

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    General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Not taking big shot makes puts her in a feast and famine situation. She's up a creek without a paddle when (WHEN not if) the enemy kills her mech before she can self destruct.

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