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So I finally beat the original Quake and it was really good, but now I understand why everyone always says the final boss is disappointing. I actually killed it and had no idea how I did it until I looked it up. I'm kind of ashamed to admit it, but I don't think I fully understand what telefragging was until then.
I kind of want to check out some Quake levels/mods now. Does anyone have any spooky Halloween recommendations for Quake? Don't they usually have some kind of contest this time of year to create maps?
I dunno if it's spooky, but I hear Arcane Dumensions is one of the more impressive Quake moxs. Haven't given it a go yet, myself.
Seriously, basically everyone with a copy of Quake needs to check out Arcane Dimensions. It’s basically Super Quake. Incredible architecture, new enemy variants, it’s a bigger Quake 1 with more everything, plus destructible environmental stuff that really makes a case for it should have been in Quake all along.
Well regarded unfinished map (doesn't have an exit condition, so I guess just get your fill of it and quit when you're done) (Cartographer's Nightmare). https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/kpcn2014.html
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Remembered the kernel level shit was gone from Eternal so I jumped back in. Holy crap this is hard.
Put me down for "I don't like buff totems". The problem is they don't really add anything to the combat: one spawns, you run to it and stomp it, then go on with the combat encounter. Just got to possessed Barons of Hell though. Starting to question if I'm going to be able to do this on Ultra-Violence because damn.
Map is called Shotgun Envy, it's a pistol only map. Originally the entire level was just going to be shotgun enemies, but given how difficult it is to prevent the player from getting the dropped shotguns, the enemy placement was going to get stale really quick. Thus, I added multiple enemies. I even added a secret "boss" encounter. If you find 3 specific switches, instead of exiting the level (like at the end of the video) you'll be taken down to fight another enemy.
Finally finished this DLC after getting stuck on the boss of level 2.
Gameplay thoughts
I liked the arena fights when they had varied enemies, but whenever they introduce a gimmick, it just sucks. (Here's 20 shield dudes, or shoot these eye boxes, or the floor is some kind of random hurt floor.
The multi-tiered fight towards the start of level with a marauder and a tyrant was great. Always keeping on the move to keep the Murader at bay while you whittle down the Tyrant: that's the good stuff
Story spoilers
Doomguy kills god's essence (who is his pal VEGA), betraying Hayden, removing probably his best tool to fight the demons, and THEN he resurrects the "Dark Lord".. I see how id thought that'd be what the Slayer would do, but I don't think it is.
Also, the Dark Lord being an anti-doomguy... I feel like that's jumping the shark a bit. Like, the dark Slayer should be the boss you fight BEFORE the Dark lord.
It'll be interesting to see what the second part brings. Sadly, the ancient gods appears to refer to Doom's version of God and Satan, so probably no lovecraftian Quake tie-in.
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I just got past the second last Priest and to the Super Gore Nest, so I'm way behind this thread.
But I have not mashed dodge and jump that much ever. Geez.
I think I got lucky in the second part of that fight against the pair of hover boss guys. After I destroyed their hover boards, one got stuck on a bit of geometry in the air so I could focus on them one at a time.
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Finally finished this DLC after getting stuck on the boss of level 2.
Gameplay thoughts
I liked the arena fights when they had varied enemies, but whenever they introduce a gimmick, it just sucks. (Here's 20 shield dudes, or shoot these eye boxes, or the floor is some kind of random hurt floor.
The multi-tiered fight towards the start of level with a marauder and a tyrant was great. Always keeping on the move to keep the Murader at bay while you whittle down the Tyrant: that's the good stuff
Story spoilers
Doomguy kills god's essence (who is his pal VEGA), betraying Hayden, removing probably his best tool to fight the demons, and THEN he resurrects the "Dark Lord".. I see how id thought that'd be what the Slayer would do, but I don't think it is.
Also, the Dark Lord being an anti-doomguy... I feel like that's jumping the shark a bit. Like, the dark Slayer should be the boss you fight BEFORE the Dark lord.
It'll be interesting to see what the second part brings. Sadly, the ancient gods appears to refer to Doom's version of God and Satan, so probably no lovecraftian Quake tie-in.
Okay so the boss fight in Blood Swamps really actually wasn't very hard on ultraviolence. The trick is: use the Ballista. It knocks out the phases very quickly, and you can just keep kiting around the map with double-dash to avoid the demons. Chainsaw when needed for more ammo.
EDIT: Also the Doom fan is adorable and I want to keep him. Put him to work rebuilding the mechsuit on the Doom fortress.
...Why? The whole fight is just stupid. Yeah, I got through it, but it took a few tries. And now I can't see straight. Some tips for double Marauders: keep moving, you can't do a full combo, you can basically get 1-2 shots in before they team up, keep changing elevation, this stops them from continuously summoning those damn dogs, use the trash + shotgun as a quick escape, and once one goes down, the other is easy.
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This game is exhausting. I have no other words. Its the Bloodborne of FPS games.
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Same, I nearly broke my mouse after doing the double eyeball fight in the blood swamps and I was on "Hurt me Plenty" these longer battle arenas are just like you said, exhausting. Just when you think you finished killing demons, the game goes "oh you're still here? have a buff totem'd maurader with some mancubi for good measure. "
It blows me away that people can beat it on anything above normal, I struggled so hard to beat it on normal
Also the blood swamp boss isn’t a big deal compared to the 2 key arenas you have to beat beforehand, the damn spirits buffing everything and buff totems and Jesus
Blood Swamp boss was giving me grief until I realized one thing
Always, ALWAYS have a blood punch ready to fuck up Pinkies. You can dash around the arena and basically not have to worry about the Hellknights, but the Pinky will absolutely catch up to your ass eventually. A single blood punch will kill him even if he's facing you.
Beyond that, the sniper shot was pretty effective against the eyes, since you can nail them twice in one opening. Glory killing fodder in-between rounds to get your blood punches up. Beyond that, as I said, you can keep ahead of the Hellknights and just dash around the arena, taking potshots at the eyes when they open.
Also, don't forget to light shit on fire before you punch the eye block into the shield, as it'll get you free armor when the shield auto-kills all the enemies.
Update: I now dislike Summoner Spirits more than Marauders. The beam mod was far less useful than heat blast, and now I have to carry that damn thing around lest I forget and the spirit possesses something I really don't want it to.
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For me it's a risk thing, esp on UV or nightmare. SS into bfg simply deletes a huge pain in the butt. Barons are a joke even empowered, and while archys are a pain, they're squishy (marauders are squishy too, but that fucking shield)
Spirit Barons on Nightmare are crazy difficult. It basically takes me 11-12 rockets to get one down. And they can catch you even if you dashing around to avoid them.
For all their bluster, I’ve always thought tyrants were super easy. They are just too damn big to be effective.
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Prodeus has released into Early Access! Available on Steam and GOG for $25. Totally worth it. If you are into retro FPS, I really think you're in for a treat. Plus, there's already more than 70 community maps available (including 2 of mine!). Tons of content with this game.
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I didn't realize Prodeus was being made by a couple of Raven Software vets. It was already on my list, but that shoots it to the top.
So, the slayer gate in AG1 3rd mission? That was... weak sauce 1 baron/1 spectre, 2 blood angels/1 hell knight, 1 marauder. Bunch of gargoyles/makyr drones for fodder.
I was expecting something more difficult, so I played conservatively and died a whole lot, like I was expecting a double Doom Hunter/Baron/Tyrant thing, and no, it ended at 1 Marauder.
If I had known that, I woulda cleared the trash with a BFG and focused the Maruader down in a couple of volleys.
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I gotta say Prodeus is pretty freaking awesome. It's essentially Doom Maker with its built-in map browser and super easy to use level editor. Definitely recommended for any oldschool shooter fans.
I gotta say Prodeus is pretty freaking awesome. It's essentially Doom Maker with its built-in map browser and super easy to use level editor. Definitely recommended for any oldschool shooter fans.
Is there support for custom assets? Like textures/models/sounds/weapons/enemies/etc?
I gotta say Prodeus is pretty freaking awesome. It's essentially Doom Maker with its built-in map browser and super easy to use level editor. Definitely recommended for any oldschool shooter fans.
Is there support for custom assets? Like textures/models/sounds/weapons/enemies/etc?
Not directly, yet.
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If they got custom assets working in a decent way, the community would explode.
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I kind of want to check out some Quake levels/mods now. Does anyone have any spooky Halloween recommendations for Quake? Don't they usually have some kind of contest this time of year to create maps?
Seriously, basically everyone with a copy of Quake needs to check out Arcane Dimensions. It’s basically Super Quake. Incredible architecture, new enemy variants, it’s a bigger Quake 1 with more everything, plus destructible environmental stuff that really makes a case for it should have been in Quake all along.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/hwjam2.html
This one's pretty well regarded (Hell in a Can). Seems to be a creepy spaceship al a Alien.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/casspq1.html
Well regarded unfinished map (doesn't have an exit condition, so I guess just get your fill of it and quit when you're done) (Cartographer's Nightmare).
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/kpcn2014.html
Map is called Shotgun Envy, it's a pistol only map. Originally the entire level was just going to be shotgun enemies, but given how difficult it is to prevent the player from getting the dropped shotguns, the enemy placement was going to get stale really quick. Thus, I added multiple enemies. I even added a secret "boss" encounter. If you find 3 specific switches, instead of exiting the level (like at the end of the video) you'll be taken down to fight another enemy.
Though I feel like the slayer gates are actually easier than the normal arenas in this DLC.
Gameplay thoughts
The multi-tiered fight towards the start of level with a marauder and a tyrant was great. Always keeping on the move to keep the Murader at bay while you whittle down the Tyrant: that's the good stuff
Story spoilers
Also, the Dark Lord being an anti-doomguy... I feel like that's jumping the shark a bit. Like, the dark Slayer should be the boss you fight BEFORE the Dark lord.
It'll be interesting to see what the second part brings. Sadly, the ancient gods appears to refer to Doom's version of God and Satan, so probably no lovecraftian Quake tie-in.
But I have not mashed dodge and jump that much ever. Geez.
I think I got lucky in the second part of that fight against the pair of hover boss guys. After I destroyed their hover boards, one got stuck on a bit of geometry in the air so I could focus on them one at a time.
maaaan. These aren’t the Ancient Gods I ordered!
EDIT: Also the Doom fan is adorable and I want to keep him. Put him to work rebuilding the mechsuit on the Doom fortress.
...Why? The whole fight is just stupid. Yeah, I got through it, but it took a few tries. And now I can't see straight. Some tips for double Marauders: keep moving, you can't do a full combo, you can basically get 1-2 shots in before they team up, keep changing elevation, this stops them from continuously summoning those damn dogs, use the trash + shotgun as a quick escape, and once one goes down, the other is easy.
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Also the blood swamp boss isn’t a big deal compared to the 2 key arenas you have to beat beforehand, the damn spirits buffing everything and buff totems and Jesus
Nah, these games are way more fair than Dark Souls or similar.
Still need to punk the final boss the dlc, but beat everything else on Ultra-Violence. Looking foward to schooling it on Nightmare.
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Beyond that, the sniper shot was pretty effective against the eyes, since you can nail them twice in one opening. Glory killing fodder in-between rounds to get your blood punches up. Beyond that, as I said, you can keep ahead of the Hellknights and just dash around the arena, taking potshots at the eyes when they open.
Also, don't forget to light shit on fire before you punch the eye block into the shield, as it'll get you free armor when the shield auto-kills all the enemies.
Good luck, you will need it. The MoE for fights is even thinner than in the main campaign.
Hugo Martin can burn in hell, right next to a BUFF TOTEM MARAUDER. That one took me a bit, because the fucker recovers as you are shooting him.
I always make a beeline for the buff totems. (Or rather, I dash around blindly looking for it.)
That's the thing, you can't here. You have to kill the buff totem marauder to access the damn thing.
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Whereas sometimes I need a little help to kill that Baron and Arch-vile standing next to each other in one hit.
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For all their bluster, I’ve always thought tyrants were super easy. They are just too damn big to be effective.
Yes to this so much
Ballista and Super Shotgun seem like the worst choices against the possessed.
I was expecting something more difficult, so I played conservatively and died a whole lot, like I was expecting a double Doom Hunter/Baron/Tyrant thing, and no, it ended at 1 Marauder.
If I had known that, I woulda cleared the trash with a BFG and focused the Maruader down in a couple of volleys.
New Doom mechanics video
The gun-sway / floor damage thing blew my mind.
Is there support for custom assets? Like textures/models/sounds/weapons/enemies/etc?
Not directly, yet.