Twilight Imperium: 4th edition - Game #1: And they're off!

MrBody

Mojo_Jojo wrote: »

@MrBody I should have no more commodities and three more TG

And the new objective is missing from the objective list

I'm counting 20 on the last update.

You spent 6 building units in your home system, then 8 on the objective, leaving you with 6. Then Winnu gave you 3, putting you up to 9.

The Diplomacy card will put you up to 12.

Mojo_Jojo

Ah, I'd not counted I just spotted the commodities were there and assumed the transaction hadn't gone through.

MrBody

The commodities were a mistake (fixed) but the trade goods were correct.

MrBody

Round 5 - Action Phase

Map

full map

(unit visual reference)
(max component restrictions per player: 8 destroyers, 8 cruisers, 4 carriers, 5 dreadnoughts, 2 war suns, 5 PDS, 3 space docks)

Objectives

Public
I - Lead from the Front - Spend a total of 3 tokens from your strategy and/or tactics pool. 1 VP Jol-Nar
I - Diversify Research - Own 2 technologies in each of 2 colors. 1 VP
I- Develop Weaponry - Own 2 unit upgrade technologies. 1 VP Creuss Letnev L1z1x
I- Negotiate Trade Routes - Spend 5 trade goods. 1 VP Jol-Nar Letnev
I- Erect a Monument - Spend 8 resources. 1 VP Letnev Jol-Nar
II- Manipulate Galactic Law- Spend 16 influence. 2 VP
II- ???
II- ???
II- ???
II - ???

Secret
Letnev Spark a rebellion - Win a combat against a player who has the most victory points. 1 VP

Victory Track

MrBlarney - 1
Elvenshae - 3
Mojo - 3
Hedgethorn - 2
Brody - 4
Preda - 1

Technologies

Promissory notes (any player may give these to another. "Black player" is just the example; insert your own color)
Race specific promissory notes (only the stated race may give these)

Player mats

MrBlarney **Speaker**

7 action cards
3 secret objectives
Creuss promissory: Cease Fire- After the Creuss player activates a system containing your units: The Creuss player cannot move units into that system. Then, return this note to the Creuss player

Elvenshae

5 action cards
2 secret objectives
Letnev promissory note: Support from the throne. Gain 1 victory point. If you activate a system containing Letnev's units, lose 1 victory point and return this card to the Letnev player.
L1z1x promissory: Cease Fire- After the L1z1x player activates a system containing your units: The L1z1x player cannot move units into that system. Then, return this note to the L1z1x player
Jol-Naw promissory: Research agreement- After the Jol-Nar player researches a technology, you may research the same technology. Then, return this note to the Jol-Nar player

Mojo

7 action cards
2 secret objectives
Arborec promissory: Cease Fire- After the Arborec player activates a system containing your units: The Arborec player cannot move units into that system. Then, return this note to the Arborec player
Arborec promissory note: Trade Agreement- When the Arborec player replenishes commodities: the Arborec player gives you all of his commodities. Then return this card to the Arborec player.
Letnev promissory note: Political Secret- When an agenda is revealed: The Letnev player cannot vote, use action cards, or use faction abilities until after the agenda has been resolved. Then return this card to the Letnev player.

Hedgethorn

6 action cards
3 secret objectives
Crown of Emphidia - Law - A player gains this card and 1 victory point if they capture a planet in the owner's home system. Then the previous owner loses 1 victory point.
Winnu promissory note: Support from the throne. Gain 1 victory point. If you activate a system containing Winnu's units, lose 1 victory point and return this card to the Winnu player.

Brody

7 action cards
0 secret objectives
1 claimed secret objective
Winnu promissory: Cease Fire- After the Winnu player activates a system containing your units: The Winnu player cannot move units into that system. Then, return this note to the Winnu player
L1z1x promissory note: Trade Agreement- When the L1z1x player replenishes commodities: the L1z1x player gives you all of his commodities. Then return this card to the L1z1x player.

Preda

3 action cards
3 secret objectives
Letnev promissory: Cease Fire- After the Letnev player activates a system containing your units: The Letnev player cannot move units into that system. Then, return this note to the Letnev player
Arborec promissory note: Support from the throne. Gain 1 victory point. If you activate a system containing Arborec's units, lose 1 victory point and return this card to the Arborec player.

MrBlarney Leadership 1
Mojo Diplomacy 2
Preda Politics 3
Brody Trade 5
Elvenshae Technology 7
Hedgethorn Imperial 8

MrBody

Just double checking. Letnev is the only one to have claimed a secret objective so far?

Mojo_Jojo

I haven't

Elvenshae

I haven’t either.

MrBlarney

No completed secret objectives on my end.

Activate the L1z1x Home System. (TP 2 --> 1)
Exhaust [0.0.0] (5R) and Bereg (5R) to build 1 Dreadnought (4R), 2 Cruisers (4R), 2 Fighters (1R), and 2 Infantry (1R) at [0.0.0]. (Forego Sarween Tools bonus) (TP/FP/SP: 1/4/2)

Gotta get that homeland defense checked out. Hey Preda, you want to be friends since we're both in last place? Crashing our fleets into each other seems counterproductive.

@Mojo_Jojo has the next action.

Mojo_Jojo

Activate Lazar/sakluag
Move the two infantry on sakluag to lazar
Exhaust Sakulag (3R)
Build 2 infantry(1)
Build 4 fighters (2)
Build one destroyer (free from saween tools)

@Elvenshae you've got a PDS shot from Arnor if you want to take it

@Preda 's action

Elvenshae

Geth, roll 1d10

1d10 5 [1d10=5]

Elvenshae

Can’t recall the target number / mods (phone posting) - does that hit with all mods, @Mojo_Jojo ?

Brody

No, you miss by 1. PDS II hits on 5, but Anti-mass deflectors gives a -1 to opposing PDS rolls.

Preda

MrBlarney wrote: »

No completed secret objectives on my end.

Activate the L1z1x Home System. (TP 2 --> 1)
Exhaust [0.0.0] (5R) and Bereg (5R) to build 1 Dreadnought (4R), 2 Cruisers (4R), 2 Fighters (1R), and 2 Infantry (1R) at [0.0.0]. (Forego Sarween Tools bonus) (TP/FP/SP: 1/4/2)

Gotta get that homeland defense checked out. Hey Preda, you want to be friends since we're both in last place? Crashing our fleets into each other seems counterproductive.

@Mojo_Jojo has the next action.

I've already shifty interdimensional pest to squat this turn. More than willing to not dish out with you too!

That said, Activate Winnu. The three dreadnought go out and pick up A GF from Mellon and a Fighter and a GF from Torkan than double back.

@Elvenshae for PDS fire, than I'll play an action card before Invasion.

Elvenshae

@Preda

I don’t think you can do that. Ships in an activated system can’t leave.

Brody

"• The ship can move out of the active system and back into it
if its move value is high enough."

Page 16 of the reference.

Preda

Brody wrote: »

"• The ship can move out of the active system and back into it
if its move value is high enough."

Page 16 of the reference.

I was searching for it too, remebering to have read it before, but Brody beat me to it... @Elvenshae

Elvenshae

... then why the hell does the rulebook state ...

Learn to Play, p13 wrote:

A player cannot move units out of a system that contains one of his command tokens.

That's a big freakin' miss. Cripes, this game's rules, sometimes.

Geth, roll 1d10t6 for PDS

PDS:

1d10t6 0 [1d10t6=2]

Elvenshae

One of these times, my PDS will actually hit something. Please continue, @Preda.

Preda

Play "Disable- Play at the start of an invasion in which your opponent has a PDS unit. Your opponent loses planetary shield and space cannon abilities for that invasion. "

@Elvenshae @Brody @MrBlarney @Mojo_Jojo @Hedgethorn for sabotages.

Brody

@Elvenshae the Learn to Play is more concerned with broad strokes rules, and getting you through a turn the first time, rather than the the variety of corner cases that come up when you get into complicated tactical concerns.

Elvenshae

I get that, but there's a big difference between "broad strokes" and "factually incorrect."

Brody

You're right, it would have been more accurate to say that "Ships can not end movement outside the system with a command token if they start their movement in the system with that command token". But that is wordy, a little confusing, and pointless if you don't yet realize why you might want to move out of and back into a system. I actually read the Rules Reference before we started playing, and there were a lot of rules like that which just did not make sense at the time.

Edit: Not saying other people didn't read the reference, just using it as anecdotal evidence that confusing rules are confusing until you see why they exist.

Hedgethorn

No sabotage.

Elvenshae

All you'd have to do is add "... unless it's the active system," and it works. So ...

• A ship must end its movement in the active system.
• A ship cannot pass through a system that contains another player’s ships, excluding fighters.
• A player cannot move units out of a system that contains one of his command tokens, unless it's the active system.

Done! Simple! Accurate!

Elvenshae

Oh, and ...

No sabotage.

Mojo_Jojo

No sabotage

Was the movement rule the same in 3e? I would have just assumed it fell under entering an activated system

Brody

Oh, right.

No Sab.

@Mojo_Jojo No idea, never played 3e.

MrBody

I assume Hedge doesn't want to sabotage this. We'll wait though.

MrBlarney

No Sabotage play.

Preda

Ok, everyone got in, let's go to Invasion. Bombard away!

Geth, roll 3d10t5 for Obliterating puny Invaders!

Obliterating puny Invaders!:

3d10t5 2 [3d10t5=6, 1, 6]

discrider

Elvenshae wrote: »

All you'd have to do is add "... unless it's the active system," and it works. So ...

• A ship must end its movement in the active system.
• A ship cannot pass through a system that contains another player’s ships, excluding fighters.
• A player cannot move units out of a system that contains one of his command tokens, unless it's the active system.

Done! Simple! Accurate!

Nup.
You can move ships through a system with a token on it, even if you can't move anything additional out of it.

In any case, I went looking for the mentioned rule because not being able to move activated ships made no sense

Preda

Creuss GF obliterated. I'll drop my 2GF and take back what's rightfully mine.

Unless @Elvenshae has any card to play, @Brody is next.

Elvenshae

No cards from me.

Brody

Play Trade.

Refresh @MrBlarney 's commodities, cashing in the L1Z1X trade promissory note.

@Mojo_Jojo @Preda @Elvenshae @Hedgethorn , 2 TG/Commodities if you want me to trigger your refresh, or to buy the secondary via Command Tokens.

Also, if anyone wants to do a little trading, I have now commodities to do so with.

Mojo_Jojo

Pass on the secondary

Hedgethorn

Pass on trade secondary.

Elvenshae

@Brody

In light of our long-standing cooperation and mutual friendship and the fact that you stabbed me in the back, bro, how about you provide this one to me for free.

Brody

@Elvenshae Free refresh and a 2 for 2 Commodity exchange?

Elvenshae

Done!

Elvenshae

@Brody