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I don’t know if I’m too late to put this here but I think of it every time “immortality: the pros and mainly the cons” comes up
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The idea that "no dying is actually good, really" is something that's super prevalent in culture and fiction. I can't name all the times I read some fantasy or science fiction story that had an immortal or very long lived character and they decided to throw in some moralizing about how it's not worth it, how it's a terrible curse, how your life starts to lose meaning. It always makes me roll my eyes, it all seems like excuse making for death or trying to come up with some reason why it's actually alright because the writers feel it's inevitable. For some reason, there seems to be a real resistance to admitting "Yes, dying sucks and not having to do it or at least putting it off for a long time would be good."
I genuinely find the notion of living forever to be pretty terrifying.
Sure, I wouldn't say no to a longer lifespan. Staying at my physical peak for the rest of my life would be great too. But actually being immortal always sounded awful to me.
Good stuff. I'm not tired of his other series, but I did have the thought "It'd be cool if he had a new series" pop into my head recently, so that's neat.
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After talking about it in this thread the topic of immortality came up I'm pretty sure with none of my own influence at lunch with a couple of coworkers/friends yesterday. They were both adamantly anti-immortality.
"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde
immortality means that the old generation will literally never die, and keep their hands on the reigns of power forever (or at least until felled by violent revolution, or backstabbing by former heirs)
that's my big problem with it - well, that and the thing where immortality is probably going to come to rich people first and poor people decades after, if ever
I dunno if immortality is inherently a bad thing (probably not), but in this social climate I'm a bit wary of stuff that'll further entrench the one percent
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immortality means that the old generation will literally never die, and keep their hands on the reigns of power forever (or at least until felled by violent revolution, or backstabbing by former heirs)
that's my big problem with it - well, that and the thing where immortality is probably going to come to rich people first and poor people decades after, if ever
I dunno if immortality is inherently a bad thing (probably not), but in this social climate I'm a bit wary of stuff that'll further entrench the one percent
I mean, that's basically every scientific advancement though.
Self driving cars are going to benefit the rich long before the working poor will even be able to think about buying one. Any new breakthrough medical procedures are out of reach of the general public for years.
If we didn't do things because the rich would benefit from it more we'd have to just kinda stop doing things.
It's better to keep striving for new discoveries and technologies while working to change those social structures.
It's also not like a 1%er dying actually redistributes their wealth or would help push societal change anyway. All that shit is hidden away where the inheritance tax will never touch it. And their ain't no 1%er babies out there fighting for equality.
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Altered Chrome by Charles Stross is a pretty interesting look at stratified immortality. Everyone has a backup drive implanted in their spine that can be used to upload their consciousness into a new body after death.
The upshot is that there's a relatively small number of ultra-rich immortals with regular off-site backups and clone farms, so that even if their backup drive is destroyed they can be in a new body by the next day with a minimal loss of experience. They are practically unkillable, have been around for centuries, and have only grown richer and more powerful over the years. They're practically a different subspecies.
Meanwhile, if a poor person dies with their backup drive intact, they might be uploaded into a virtual cottage if their family can afford it, but generally they're just tossed into long-term storage with no experiential existence. Prisoners also have their minds put into storage for the length of their sentence, while their original bodies are rented out for the use of other minds. Poor people might sell their bodies for the use of the rich in exchange for money and a life in a simulation.
Oh, and those who believe in the existence of a soul are popular targets for the criminal underworld, since a regular murder victim can be virtually interrogated to finger their murderer, but it's illegal to access the backup of someone who has signed a religious waiver.
His actual stories tend to be a bit too grim and violent for my tastes, but his worldbuilding is incredible.
Good stuff. I'm not tired of his other series, but I did have the thought "It'd be cool if he had a new series" pop into my head recently, so that's neat.
Episode 2 is totally going to be Chris Gaines, right?
Altered Chrome by Charles Stross is a pretty interesting look at stratified immortality. Everyone has a backup drive implanted in their spine that can be used to upload their consciousness into a new body after death.
The upshot is that there's a relatively small number of ultra-rich immortals with regular off-site backups and clone farms, so that even if their backup drive is destroyed they can be in a new body by the next day with a minimal loss of experience. They are practically unkillable, have been around for centuries, and have only grown richer and more powerful over the years. They're practically a different subspecies.
Meanwhile, if a poor person dies with their backup drive intact, they might be uploaded into a virtual cottage if their family can afford it, but generally they're just tossed into long-term storage with no experiential existence. Prisoners also have their minds put into storage for the length of their sentence, while their original bodies are rented out for the use of other minds. Poor people might sell their bodies for the use of the rich in exchange for money and a life in a simulation.
Oh, and those who believe in the existence of a soul are popular targets for the criminal underworld, since a regular murder victim can be virtually interrogated to finger their murderer, but it's illegal to access the backup of someone who has signed a religious waiver.
His actual stories tend to be a bit too grim and violent for my tastes, but his worldbuilding is incredible.
It's called Altered Carbon I believe; they're making a tv series of it at some point.
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Well I mean Hitler did do one good thing that I can think
he killed Hitler!
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I don’t know if I’m too late to put this here but I think of it every time “immortality: the pros and mainly the cons” comes up
What other movie glorifies paperwork and due process?
Anatomy of a Murder
My Cousin Vinny
I genuinely find the notion of living forever to be pretty terrifying.
Sure, I wouldn't say no to a longer lifespan. Staying at my physical peak for the rest of my life would be great too. But actually being immortal always sounded awful to me.
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Good stuff. I'm not tired of his other series, but I did have the thought "It'd be cool if he had a new series" pop into my head recently, so that's neat.
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An oldie but a goodie
https://youtu.be/B-Wd-Q3F8KM
that's my big problem with it - well, that and the thing where immortality is probably going to come to rich people first and poor people decades after, if ever
I dunno if immortality is inherently a bad thing (probably not), but in this social climate I'm a bit wary of stuff that'll further entrench the one percent
I mean, that's basically every scientific advancement though.
Self driving cars are going to benefit the rich long before the working poor will even be able to think about buying one. Any new breakthrough medical procedures are out of reach of the general public for years.
If we didn't do things because the rich would benefit from it more we'd have to just kinda stop doing things.
It's better to keep striving for new discoveries and technologies while working to change those social structures.
It's also not like a 1%er dying actually redistributes their wealth or would help push societal change anyway. All that shit is hidden away where the inheritance tax will never touch it. And their ain't no 1%er babies out there fighting for equality.
The upshot is that there's a relatively small number of ultra-rich immortals with regular off-site backups and clone farms, so that even if their backup drive is destroyed they can be in a new body by the next day with a minimal loss of experience. They are practically unkillable, have been around for centuries, and have only grown richer and more powerful over the years. They're practically a different subspecies.
Meanwhile, if a poor person dies with their backup drive intact, they might be uploaded into a virtual cottage if their family can afford it, but generally they're just tossed into long-term storage with no experiential existence. Prisoners also have their minds put into storage for the length of their sentence, while their original bodies are rented out for the use of other minds. Poor people might sell their bodies for the use of the rich in exchange for money and a life in a simulation.
Oh, and those who believe in the existence of a soul are popular targets for the criminal underworld, since a regular murder victim can be virtually interrogated to finger their murderer, but it's illegal to access the backup of someone who has signed a religious waiver.
His actual stories tend to be a bit too grim and violent for my tastes, but his worldbuilding is incredible.
That is some expensive ass water.
Episode 2 is totally going to be Chris Gaines, right?
https://youtu.be/KUK7MI3fzyo
It's called Altered Carbon I believe; they're making a tv series of it at some point.
sigh.. (opens youtube)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B6jgkcANRE
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