I dont know if you guys have ever tried Essence Reaver Nocturne, but it is some hilarity. Whatever target your on is essentially perma CCed till they die.
I get where you're coming from but then he has to play against Maokai who can point and click CC him and he explodes if Wind Wall is down.
Or someone knocks him up and he explodes because he can't cast Wind Wall.
Negating ults with a basic ability isn't unique to him. Vlad has had pool for ages. Fizz has Playful/Trickster. Braum has Unbreakable. Gnar has Wallop.
I mean shit Gnar's mini form W negates melee range ultimates because you can't actually catch him.
If I had to point to something obscene on Yasuo's kit it's the bonus armor pen for ulting or a combination of passive strength or charge speed.
the counter to every character is stun them and blow them up, if that's the only way to deal with Yasuo it means that he really doesn't have a weakness except for the same weakness every character has.
It's also the case that only one of those characters can negate an ult in the way yasuo can by simply making the ult not exist or do any damage to anyone. And that's Braum, and he can do it with an ability that doesn't get wider the more points is in it, and doesn't prevent all damage to every character because it still hits him.
Yasuo's wind wall is pretty singular in it's ability to just shut entire characters down. There are some champs that can become invulnerable for a very short time, but they can't make their whole team invulnerable
oh taric, forgot about him. I'm also a little more comfortable that if anyone is going to negate enemy abilities that they be supports. having a hyper carry that can also negate enemies is not good.
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Also the more susceptible they are to cc. They cannot damage your team without being in range for you to blow them up. If you draft no cc and the yi goes 20/0 is that cause yi is op or is it because maybe you need cc?
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I'm thankful the game doesn't treat an ulting Vi as a projectile and blink her out of existence if she hits a windwall.
... well I was, now I'm wondering if I've ever actually done that and hoping it's actually true. Probably safe, more likely to be coded as a minion than anything else.
I'm thankful the game doesn't treat an ulting Vi as a projectile and blink her out of existence if she hits a windwall.
... well I was, now I'm wondering if I've ever actually done that and hoping it's actually true. Probably safe, more likely to be coded as a minion than anything else.
you can also QSS the knock up as soon as she hits you/yasuo hits you etc.
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I'm 0-5 in my Placements so far; the first two losses were abominable, truly horrid play on my part. The next 3 were all games with good to great personal performances as Rammus jungle, but I had some truly toxic feeders. Like, this last game, we had Vayne/Nami bot against Tristana/Pyke. I said, I'll come gank bot at level 3, we have plenty of CC, should be great.
Nami died at level 2, then Vayne overextended and also died, and then Vayne pinged me 5x and said why didn't you come gank? It was like 2 minutes into the game, I'd barely done my second camp. When next we were both on the same screen as each other, she pinged me 5x and flashed on top of me for no reason at all. Just so toxic.
She had 119 CS at 34 minutes with 2 items. Hard to win, even with a massively fed Malz on our team, at that point =/ I'm trying to help winning lanes and prioritize their strongest champs in teamfights at least.
I'm thankful the game doesn't treat an ulting Vi as a projectile and blink her out of existence if she hits a windwall.
... well I was, now I'm wondering if I've ever actually done that and hoping it's actually true. Probably safe, more likely to be coded as a minion than anything else.
One of the greatest League bugs ever and why I forgive Yasuo so much is that his Windwall would delete Shaco if used on him when he ulted. Both Shacos are/were projectiles and they'd both get deleted from the map.
I'm 0-5 in my Placements so far; the first two losses were abominable, truly horrid play on my part. The next 3 were all games with good to great personal performances as Rammus jungle, but I had some truly toxic feeders. Like, this last game, we had Vayne/Nami bot against Tristana/Pyke. I said, I'll come gank bot at level 3, we have plenty of CC, should be great.
Nami died at level 2, then Vayne overextended and also died, and then Vayne pinged me 5x and said why didn't you come gank? It was like 2 minutes into the game, I'd barely done my second camp. When next we were both on the same screen as each other, she pinged me 5x and flashed on top of me for no reason at all. Just so toxic.
She had 119 CS at 34 minutes with 2 items. Hard to win, even with a massively fed Malz on our team, at that point =/ I'm trying to help winning lanes and prioritize their strongest champs in teamfights at least.
If it makes you feel better I've had multiple games where I go 5-0 or 6-0 in jungle and everyone seems to be ahead on my team. Then they decide to solo push inhib turrets when we all recalled. Or I say I'm going to push botwave give me time, and they all dive under a turret 4v5.
Then we lose, and it's all my fault.
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Keep doing your placements; as you win, you'll get more rank points (and move to higher ranks.) If you lose in placements, you don't lose any rank points.
Once you're done with placements, you'll have to do advancement games to move to higher ranks.
Oh god my 8th placement game. My toplane Cho, pre-minion spawn, chases enemy toplane Swain into/through their jungle, tower dives under mid tower, dies, and immediately "crashes" and disconnects, and doesn't return until Swain is level 4.
But still, I go top, Cho'Gath hits level 2 and we gank/kill Swain. Cho'Gath even gets the kill to help him catch up.
Meanwhile, mid LeBlanc is complaining that I need to "play my role more", ignoring the events of the last minute entirely. And bottom lane asks for a gank.
I head bot through the enemy jungle as our wave is pushing up to bot tower. Right as I'm rolling out to engage under the tower with Braum/Jinx, Jinx "crashes" and disconnects. And doesn't return for six minutes.
Then, when she gets back, she flames me for grumbling in team chat about how unlucky we are.
We lose, predictably. I have more gold than everyone on my team, and the least amount of deaths. I have 50% more CS than our Top and ADC. I have two less CS than our Mid.
These kinds of games shouldn't fucking count when you're doing placements. Holy fuck. Now my Jungle rank is Iron I, 70 LP. I went 1-7 in my placements when by any reasonable evaluation of my performance the least I could have been blessed with is 3-5.
Edit: won my next game, got promoted to Bronze IV, no promo series; I'll take it
Well I finished my placements 5-3 for supp. G2 to start this season. Maybe I'll try to grind up to plat and then begin my attempt to become the Irelia/Akali/Kat midlaner of my dreams...
Or I'll just start losing by doing that. Unsure.
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Ok, first game of ranked this season (a win) put me at gold 4 50 LP (ended preseason Plat 4 in promos for Plat 3), so looks like a full division reset.
Zyra is so good and honestly playing with plat adcs remains a delight. I know it's still 'low elo' in the grand scheme of things, but they tend to play with the sort of judgment that I expect and that goes well with my playstyle, and I really appreciate it!
...also I can't help but feel that I have now beaten the game. After all, every previous season has been about climbing to gold, but this season I just placed into gold so...gg! w e d i d i t b o y z
Ok, support placements done: 6-2, gold 2 5 LP. I don't feel outmatched or struggling so I should be able to climb now.
How do offrole placements work? Like if I try to place jungle, is it seriously going to start me at gold 4 like it did for support and I can't go down from there during placements? Because I am not a low gold jungler...
Ok, support placements done: 6-2, gold 2 5 LP. I don't feel outmatched or struggling so I should be able to climb now.
How do offrole placements work? Like if I try to place jungle, is it seriously going to start me at gold 4 like it did for support and I can't go down from there during placements? Because I am not a low gold jungler...
It will but your mmr will be lower.
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I am a low bronze rank, so I want to make sure my macro decisions make sense.
At 25 mins or so we win a fight 3-0, we miss the support and jungle. We all are over 2/3rds HP. I outlevel the enemy jungler.
The correct call is always Baron right?
Not wait for a wave to push a tower, and nothing g else because we had to wait for the wave.
Depends on item break-points reached, how strong your damage is, and ideally having one low-damage high-durability tank / enchanter to take the Baron's hits, but usually yes. With the enemy jungler up, however, it's okay to go for something else--while you should be able to out-smite, mistakes happen.
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You guys got me to delve into ranked this season against my better judgment.
As mid Karthus there are two enemies I hate. Fizz and leblanc. Do so bad against them both.
Ban leblanc. Face fizz with a premium skin. He hits 6 right before I do and gets a kill on me with no trade back. He proceeds to R me on cool down and kill me no matter if I have flash or am between towers. I proceed to feed
0-1 from gold IV to silver 4. I know I can only climb up, but ouch.
Huh, if you fail Bronze III Promos, you get a free win next time you get to those promos. Is it like that all the way up?
not between divisions, but within them yes.
I think you get a free win in division promos too, don’t you? Last season I only had to try each one once but previously I have memories of having a free win...maybe false memories from so many free wins from bouncing around within a division...
Also—of my 8 support games, I inexplicably played 2 Lulu games. I don’t like Lulu! But she kinda feels right when your adc just wants to chill in lane and farm and the enemy team has a lot of all-in that you envision polymorphing. Also good to pick into something like Thresh when Morgana is banned but you don’t feel like responding with a tank support because you know you’ll get bored and start engaging but you shouldn’t because of the adc matchup (and you feel iffy about choosing zyra because you think you might actually be facing plat supports who are capable of punishing your squishy mage pick )
Oof, someone picked my Rammus so I went Sej Jungle, got 6-2-14, and we still lost because I whiffed a Baron smite =/
That's not the only reason of course; we threw a prodigious lead. Our Akali was mega-toxic and spent a lot of time flaming in chat (you can always tell even if they're muted), and our coordination post-baron was really poor. I need more teamfight experience.
Kalista is basically impossible to hit with Sej ult, I did find that out.
One auto win, first game: Neeko midlane, who is level 5 when the Mid-Vlad is level 7. 35 CS the entire game. Toplane Sion gives Riven 6 kills in 10 minutes.
Second game, Yasuo mid goes 2-14 or something similar and flames the entire time. While Tryndamere feeds a Renekton five kills.
I know this game has an aspect of if you do well, you can carry but not from these sorts of games
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the counter to every character is stun them and blow them up, if that's the only way to deal with Yasuo it means that he really doesn't have a weakness except for the same weakness every character has.
It's also the case that only one of those characters can negate an ult in the way yasuo can by simply making the ult not exist or do any damage to anyone. And that's Braum, and he can do it with an ability that doesn't get wider the more points is in it, and doesn't prevent all damage to every character because it still hits him.
Yasuo's wind wall is pretty singular in it's ability to just shut entire characters down. There are some champs that can become invulnerable for a very short time, but they can't make their whole team invulnerable
oh taric, forgot about him. I'm also a little more comfortable that if anyone is going to negate enemy abilities that they be supports. having a hyper carry that can also negate enemies is not good.
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I still haven't actually seen anyone else playing Taric, thinking about it.
The lower the elo the more hyper carry melees feel op.
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... well I was, now I'm wondering if I've ever actually done that and hoping it's actually true. Probably safe, more likely to be coded as a minion than anything else.
you can also QSS the knock up as soon as she hits you/yasuo hits you etc.
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Nami died at level 2, then Vayne overextended and also died, and then Vayne pinged me 5x and said why didn't you come gank? It was like 2 minutes into the game, I'd barely done my second camp. When next we were both on the same screen as each other, she pinged me 5x and flashed on top of me for no reason at all. Just so toxic.
She had 119 CS at 34 minutes with 2 items. Hard to win, even with a massively fed Malz on our team, at that point =/ I'm trying to help winning lanes and prioritize their strongest champs in teamfights at least.
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Finally got a win with 10-2-19 Rammus, lol. Got first blood and first tower mission too! Only got an a+ ranking, though =/
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It can actually be less I believe
One of the greatest League bugs ever and why I forgive Yasuo so much is that his Windwall would delete Shaco if used on him when he ulted. Both Shacos are/were projectiles and they'd both get deleted from the map.
If it makes you feel better I've had multiple games where I go 5-0 or 6-0 in jungle and everyone seems to be ahead on my team. Then they decide to solo push inhib turrets when we all recalled. Or I say I'm going to push botwave give me time, and they all dive under a turret 4v5.
Then we lose, and it's all my fault.
Do I need to play 7 more placements to see where I'll actually be placed?
Halp
Once you're done with placements, you'll have to do advancement games to move to higher ranks.
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Enemy team in post game "Wow, Hec sorry about your team"
So that felt nice
But still, I go top, Cho'Gath hits level 2 and we gank/kill Swain. Cho'Gath even gets the kill to help him catch up.
Meanwhile, mid LeBlanc is complaining that I need to "play my role more", ignoring the events of the last minute entirely. And bottom lane asks for a gank.
I head bot through the enemy jungle as our wave is pushing up to bot tower. Right as I'm rolling out to engage under the tower with Braum/Jinx, Jinx "crashes" and disconnects. And doesn't return for six minutes.
Then, when she gets back, she flames me for grumbling in team chat about how unlucky we are.
We lose, predictably. I have more gold than everyone on my team, and the least amount of deaths. I have 50% more CS than our Top and ADC. I have two less CS than our Mid.
These kinds of games shouldn't fucking count when you're doing placements. Holy fuck. Now my Jungle rank is Iron I, 70 LP. I went 1-7 in my placements when by any reasonable evaluation of my performance the least I could have been blessed with is 3-5.
Edit: won my next game, got promoted to Bronze IV, no promo series; I'll take it
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Where it's all your fault and the K/D/As don't matter
Or I'll just start losing by doing that. Unsure.
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Zyra is so good and honestly playing with plat adcs remains a delight. I know it's still 'low elo' in the grand scheme of things, but they tend to play with the sort of judgment that I expect and that goes well with my playstyle, and I really appreciate it!
...also I can't help but feel that I have now beaten the game. After all, every previous season has been about climbing to gold, but this season I just placed into gold so...gg! w e d i d i t b o y z
Hah finally the troll build is on the other team
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How do offrole placements work? Like if I try to place jungle, is it seriously going to start me at gold 4 like it did for support and I can't go down from there during placements? Because I am not a low gold jungler...
It will but your mmr will be lower.
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At 25 mins or so we win a fight 3-0, we miss the support and jungle. We all are over 2/3rds HP. I outlevel the enemy jungler.
The correct call is always Baron right?
Not wait for a wave to push a tower, and nothing g else because we had to wait for the wave.
Depends on item break-points reached, how strong your damage is, and ideally having one low-damage high-durability tank / enchanter to take the Baron's hits, but usually yes. With the enemy jungler up, however, it's okay to go for something else--while you should be able to out-smite, mistakes happen.
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not between divisions, but within them yes.
Me: Hey top, mid; how are your matchups
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Garen gets First Blood on Warwick
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As mid Karthus there are two enemies I hate. Fizz and leblanc. Do so bad against them both.
Ban leblanc. Face fizz with a premium skin. He hits 6 right before I do and gets a kill on me with no trade back. He proceeds to R me on cool down and kill me no matter if I have flash or am between towers. I proceed to feed
0-1 from gold IV to silver 4. I know I can only climb up, but ouch.
Fuck fizz.
Still feels like they need a buff or two, but they added a healing aspect to them which is super nice.
Last game I had 9 or 10 marks. Felt like a sniper the whole time
I think you get a free win in division promos too, don’t you? Last season I only had to try each one once but previously I have memories of having a free win...maybe false memories from so many free wins from bouncing around within a division...
Also—of my 8 support games, I inexplicably played 2 Lulu games. I don’t like Lulu! But she kinda feels right when your adc just wants to chill in lane and farm and the enemy team has a lot of all-in that you envision polymorphing. Also good to pick into something like Thresh when Morgana is banned but you don’t feel like responding with a tank support because you know you’ll get bored and start engaging but you shouldn’t because of the adc matchup (and you feel iffy about choosing zyra because you think you might actually be facing plat supports who are capable of punishing your squishy mage pick
That's not the only reason of course; we threw a prodigious lead. Our Akali was mega-toxic and spent a lot of time flaming in chat (you can always tell even if they're muted), and our coordination post-baron was really poor. I need more teamfight experience.
Kalista is basically impossible to hit with Sej ult, I did find that out.
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One auto win, first game: Neeko midlane, who is level 5 when the Mid-Vlad is level 7. 35 CS the entire game. Toplane Sion gives Riven 6 kills in 10 minutes.
Second game, Yasuo mid goes 2-14 or something similar and flames the entire time. While Tryndamere feeds a Renekton five kills.
I know this game has an aspect of if you do well, you can carry but not from these sorts of games