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    ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    What the heck is a teetotaller?

    someone who doesnt drink alcohol.

    Because they only drink tea. Teatotallers. A lot of people misspell it for some reason.

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    Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    Is there some I dunno... science or whatever behind the name "Teetotaller" or did someone pull random letters out of a hat, arrange them, and then go "This is to describe a person who doesn't drink"?

    Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
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    Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    Hmmm.

    Normally I have enough streamers followed that there's a good variety of things being played that I can hop between whatever I'm interested in.

    Literally everyone is playing Monster Hunter.
    "playing"

    Most of them are SO terrible at it. Jesus fucking Christ.

    Yeah a dude I watch has switched over to charge blade and I thought I was bad at it, holy shit he keeps full vials and gets overloaded never fires them, and he's using a rath cb against fire drakes... Its like "I know cbs get a lot of back seaters, but fuck sake dude you are doing nothing".
    I see a LOT of people going in with Insect Glaive and Charge Blade as their starter weapon, due to some sort of hubris that "I'm using the MOST COMPLICATED WEAPON in the HARDEST GAME" or some shit like that. I'm like "Umm, it's not THAT hard, and you aren't even doing the bare minimum of the not-hard moves".

    Honestly I swapped off the charge blade because I felt like personally on my solo hunts I was doing dumb stuff and I ended up tripping over myself to do moves and not getting consistent damage. I've been using the GS and Dual Blades because they are both not super complicated.

    I've been thinking of trying the SnS since I made the nergalos set this morning and it does good damage on elemental crit and the SnS has some cool super leap moves now.

    Nothing in the game is particularly hard/complicated by most standards. But there are weapons that punish you more for missing and have that added collection/reload mechanic.

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    ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    What the heck is a teetotaller?

    It's where you only like the totality of teas.

    goddamn it jebus

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    BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    japan wrote: »
    So all times and distances logged on today's stage of the TransCape race have been lost as a result of the lead marshal being attacked by a swarm of bees

    So that happened

    Happens to the best of us

    That's hilarious

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    japanjapan Registered User regular
    kedinik wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Let's be real: teetotallers can possibly be as annoying as an annoying vegan

    how often do you meet annoying teetotalers or annoying vegans

    I think this is one of those things where you tend to only find out if someone is either because they're being annoying, and as such people's opinions are slanted by sampling bias.

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    shiv your joke is undercut by an accidental misspelling, I'll have to dock you 5 comedy points

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    cptrugged wrote: »
    This OP has made me want to listen the Queen's One Vision

    Fried chicken!

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    Sir LandsharkSir Landshark resting shark face Registered User regular
    i obviously don't care if someone doesn't drink, but i do feel bad when they're stuck hanging out with a bunch of drunks

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    Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    Hmmm.

    Normally I have enough streamers followed that there's a good variety of things being played that I can hop between whatever I'm interested in.

    Literally everyone is playing Monster Hunter.
    "playing"

    Most of them are SO terrible at it. Jesus fucking Christ.

    Yeah a dude I watch has switched over to charge blade and I thought I was bad at it, holy shit he keeps full vials and gets overloaded never fires them, and he's using a rath cb against fire drakes... Its like "I know cbs get a lot of back seaters, but fuck sake dude you are doing nothing".
    I see a LOT of people going in with Insect Glaive and Charge Blade as their starter weapon, due to some sort of hubris that "I'm using the MOST COMPLICATED WEAPON in the HARDEST GAME" or some shit like that. I'm like "Umm, it's not THAT hard, and you aren't even doing the bare minimum of the not-hard moves".

    Honestly I swapped off the charge blade because I felt like personally on my solo hunts I was doing dumb stuff and I ended up tripping over myself to do moves and not getting consistent damage. I've been using the GS and Dual Blades because they are both not super complicated.

    I've been thinking of trying the SnS since I made the nergalos set this morning and it does good damage on elemental crit and the SnS has some cool super leap moves now.
    At least now, Charge Blade in this game has more upgrade paths. When it debuted, there was basically just one for most of Low Rank.

    In Monster Hunter Tri, Longsword had a similar problem. The endgame had something like... 11 endgame Longswords? And some of those were special "bonus" weapons that you only acquired later from Event quests.

    I've been using only Long Sword and Bow this game. I really should branch out. I've started upgrading a bunch of other weapons, but I've yet to break the seal on them yet.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Let's be real: teetotallers can possibly be as annoying as an annoying vegan

    My experience is similar to that of a vegan: people treat me like shit out of defensiveness that I’m like, implicitly criticizing their lifestyle. Give me a vegan over a ‘for every cow you don’t eat I’ll eat three lol!!’ person any day. Same thing here.

    Comparing just vegan to militantly anti-vegan is unfair

    The equivalent is the evangelical vegan who is dumb as rocks. Your PETA people.

    If I was locked in a room with one of those and one of the for every cow you don't eat I'll eat three lol people and I had a gun with two bullets I'd shoot myself twice

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Im glad I didnt go through with buying the Shadow of the Colossus remake, its a great game but I got everything out of it I wanted by watching people play it on twitch.

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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    i obviously don't care if someone doesn't drink, but i do feel bad when they're stuck hanging out with a bunch of drunks

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Im still on charge blade, I wanted to like Lance but I need to watch a tutorial to see what its really about cause I didnt see anything compelling about it.

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    ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    i obviously don't care if someone doesn't drink, but i do feel bad when they're stuck hanging out with a bunch of drunks

    It can be ok, as long as they're able to like, loosen up. You can definitely get into a drunkesque mood without drinking if you'e so inclined.

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    Captain UltraCaptain Ultra low resolution pictures of birds Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Is there some I dunno... science or whatever behind the name "Teetotaller" or did someone pull random letters out of a hat, arrange them, and then go "This is to describe a person who doesn't drink"?

    wiki says the origins are disputed, but the commonly accepted origin, is a speech at a Temprence Society meeting where someone stuttered that they insisted on "t-t-total abstinence" of alcohol.

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    jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    one time I went to a popular fried chicken place in Nashville with my road trip buddies but I ordered grilled chicken instead of fried

    then my friend asked me why I hate america and also freedom

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    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Let's be real: teetotallers can possibly be as annoying as an annoying vegan

    My experience is similar to that of a vegan: people treat me like shit out of defensiveness that I’m like, implicitly criticizing their lifestyle. Give me a vegan over a ‘for every cow you don’t eat I’ll eat three lol!!’ person any day. Same thing here.

    Comparing just vegan to militantly anti-vegan is unfair

    The equivalent is the evangelical vegan who is dumb as rocks. Your PETA people.

    If I was locked in a room with one of those and one of the for every cow you don't eat I'll eat three lol people and I had a gun with two bullets I'd shoot myself twice

    The point is that there aren't actually that many militant vegans. I've encountered militant vegans but they're pretty rare, and it's been a very long time.

    While the opposite, somebody who responds with defensiveness and derision to the mere suggestion that somebody in their presence is vegan, is all too common.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Two interviews down, one to go.

    First guy: Answered the wrong question on the tech assessment. Wasn't good at following what I was saying, might of been me, code was technically good if bulky. Did an okay use of iteration though and was able to figure out the data. Was able to answer the second half well once I walked him through what I really wanted. Young and a it brash though. I am just meh since my instructions obviously weren't crap because...

    Second person: Got a perfect answer. Showed the ability to think through the problem and recode. Answered all my questions with a good technical answer. Was quick to figure out anything. Was able to describe to me her thought process. Walked me through how she approaches questions. Also has a similar background. Is comfortable building out dashboards. Didn't try to write off what we do as better in SQL which we can't use and didn't know like the first person.

    One left, let's see how this goes!

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    BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    I can only speak for the U.S., but an example: At the Christmas holiday party, there is a chance where if you don't drink you will be labeled "not a team player" and won't get promotions.

    Up here, as long as you're first on the dance floor, they don't care about your level of sobriety

    Just make an ass of yourself - performing karaoke poorly is supremely helpful, too - and you'll be accepted anywhere

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    I've never really been able to understand any discussion surrounding alcohol/alcohol culture, as the idea of drinking for the purpose of getting drunk is just completely alien.

    Alcoholic drinks were always, in my entire extended family, things which were served alongside food, typically wine, often homegrown grapes that were hand crushed (Italian family). Harder alcohols were served only when company came over, and usually with coffee, or right after supper while everyone's relaxing. Beer was only ever bought by my uncle or dad, being the youngest cohort, and then just before supper or alongside it if they weren't feeling wine.

    So alcohol was always a substitutable beverage associated with food.

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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    matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »

    Chanus these guys are awesome

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKqCidQ19OU

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    japanjapan Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    For every shot of Jaeger you don't take im slamming three

    This...

    happens a lot with the people I work with

    A fairly consistent feature of any night out is the unsolicited tray of shots, and frequently ends up with the purchaser drinking those they bought for people that demurred

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    JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    navgoose wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    I got jumped by a group of teenagers for Pokémon cards that I didn’t even have

    My mom gave away my (semi) valuable collection of early 90's Magic and sports card collection. But she keeps bullshit dollar store plastic toys and coloring books.

    I had a foil Arcanis the Omnipotent card. I later gave it to my little brother when I stopped playing and he traded it for some stupid bullshit.

    and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
    but they're listening to every word I say
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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    jakobagger wrote: »
    one time I went to a popular fried chicken place in Nashville with my road trip buddies but I ordered grilled chicken instead of fried

    then my friend asked me why I hate america and also freedom

    This seems like a fair question

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    ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Aegis wrote: »
    I've never really been able to understand any discussion surrounding alcohol/alcohol culture, as the idea of drinking for the purpose of getting drunk is just completely alien.

    Alcoholic drinks were always, in my entire extended family, things which were served alongside food, typically wine, often homegrown grapes that were hand crushed (Italian family). Harder alcohols were served only when company came over, and usually with coffee, or right after supper while everyone's relaxing. Beer was only ever bought by my uncle or dad, being the youngest cohort, and then just before supper or alongside it if they weren't feeling wine.

    So alcohol was always a substitutable beverage associated with food.

    Are you American?

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    Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    i obviously don't care if someone doesn't drink, but i do feel bad when they're stuck hanging out with a bunch of drunks

    I ended up the designated driver for my brother's birthday one year... It was a pleasant evening of my drunk brother and my then also drunk girlfriend talking about what an asshole I was. Fun

    Also, dipping my toes into a chat thread is killing my already record low work productivity... I should probably get something done today D:

    Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
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    JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    What the heck is a teetotaller?

    someone who doesnt drink alcohol.

    Because they only drink tea. Teatotallers. A lot of people misspell it for some reason.

    Get on my joke level slowpoke.

    and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
    but they're listening to every word I say
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    Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Is there some I dunno... science or whatever behind the name "Teetotaller" or did someone pull random letters out of a hat, arrange them, and then go "This is to describe a person who doesn't drink"?
    It's an old word. Created back before we really had standardized spelling.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teetotalism
    There is some dispute over the origin of the word "teetotaler". One anecdote attributes the origin of the word to a meeting of the Preston Temperance Society in 1833. The story attributes the word to Richard Turner,[2] a member of the society, who in a speech said "I'll be reet down out-and-out t-t-total for ever and ever".[3] Walter William Skeat noted that the Turner anecdote had been recorded by temperance advocate Joseph Livesey, and posited that the term may have been inspired by the teetotum;[4] however, James B. Greenough stated that "nobody ever thought teetotum and teetotaler were etymologically connected".[5]

    A variation on the above account is found on the pages of The Charleston Observer:

    Teetotalers.—The origin of this convenient word, (as convenient almost, although not so general in its application as loafer,) is, we imagine, known but to few who use it. It originated, as we learn from the Landmark, with a man named Turner, a member of the Preston Temperance Society, who, having an impediment of speech, in addressing a meeting remarked, that partial abstinence from intoxicating liquors would not do; they must insist upon tee-tee-(stammering) tee total abstinence. Hence total abstainers have been called teetotalers.

    — The Charleston Observer vol. 10, no. 44 (29 October 1836)[6]
    An alternative explanation is that teetotal is simply a reduplication of the first "T" in total (T-total). It is said that as early as 1827 in some Temperance Societies signing a "T" after one's name signified one's pledge for total abstinence.[7] In England in the 1830s, when the word first entered the lexicon, it was also used in other contexts as an emphasized form of total; a comparable American English locution would be "total with a capital T" (an instance of the "[word] with a capital [word-initial letter]" snowclone).

    According to historian Daniel Walker Howe (What Hath God Wrought: The Transformation of America, 1815-1848, 2007) the term was derived from the practice of American preacher and temperance advocate Lyman Beecher. He would take names at his meetings of people who pledged alcoholic temperance and noted those who pledged total abstinence with a T. Such persons became known as Teetotallers.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    Delmain wrote: »
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    I saw a funny video

    I share the funny video with you now


    https://youtu.be/a8uyilHatBA

    Colbert talked about SpaceX last night and it was good

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO-RSPLdpPg

    King Nerd! I think he'll accept that title readily :P

    I'm surprised he hasn't already booked an appearance to pick up his hat.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    kedinik wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Let's be real: teetotallers can possibly be as annoying as an annoying vegan

    how often do you meet annoying teetotalers or annoying vegans

    Teetotallers not so much these days. I spend a lot of my free time in bars so teetotallers have kinda drifted out of my social circles (for good and for bad. Mostly bad, but hey, people drift away.)

    Vegans... fairly often because I'm kind of friends with one.

    She's alright some of the time. When she talks about... most topics, really, she's pretty annoying. But like, absent, uh, a topic of conversation, she's nice

    Abdhyius on
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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    I've never really been able to understand any discussion surrounding alcohol/alcohol culture, as the idea of drinking for the purpose of getting drunk is just completely alien.

    Alcoholic drinks were always, in my entire extended family, things which were served alongside food, typically wine, often homegrown grapes that were hand crushed (Italian family). Harder alcohols were served only when company came over, and usually with coffee, or right after supper while everyone's relaxing. Beer was only ever bought by my uncle or dad, being the youngest cohort, and then just before supper or alongside it if they weren't feeling wine.

    So alcohol was always a substitutable beverage associated with food.

    Are you American?

    Canadian. Grandparents immigrated from Italy.

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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    ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    What the heck is a teetotaller?

    someone who doesnt drink alcohol.

    Because they only drink tea. Teatotallers. A lot of people misspell it for some reason.

    Get on my joke level slowpoke.

    No.
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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Let's be real: teetotallers can possibly be as annoying as an annoying vegan

    My experience is similar to that of a vegan: people treat me like shit out of defensiveness that I’m like, implicitly criticizing their lifestyle. Give me a vegan over a ‘for every cow you don’t eat I’ll eat three lol!!’ person any day. Same thing here.

    Comparing just vegan to militantly anti-vegan is unfair

    The equivalent is the evangelical vegan who is dumb as rocks. Your PETA people.

    If I was locked in a room with one of those and one of the for every cow you don't eat I'll eat three lol people and I had a gun with two bullets I'd shoot myself twice

    The point is that there aren't actually that many militant vegans. I've encountered militant vegans but they're pretty rare, and it's been a very long time.

    While the opposite, somebody who responds with defensiveness and derision to the mere suggestion that somebody in their presence is vegan, is all too common.

    Get a load of this soy boy

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I will eat all of the fried chicken and no one can stop me

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    OnTheLastCastleOnTheLastCastle let's keep it haimish for the peripatetic Registered User regular
    This is without a doubt the WORST motivational poster I've ever seen.

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    I wish I'd had chat so I could have made a demotivational one.

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    BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    i obviously don't care if someone doesn't drink, but i do feel bad when they're stuck hanging out with a bunch of drunks

    I legit don't mind at all

    My extended family is largely a big bunch of drinkers (with a couple exceptions), and I love 'em all, so if they need a refill I'm the first to go get it for them

    As they get drunker and the conversation gets sillier, I'm allowed to loosen up and be a little sillier too, it's kind of nice!

    My friend group is largely sober, with a couple exceptions, but we'll alternate going to the bar and chilling at someone's house or going for coffee, it's all good

    Ladyfish drinks in moderation, and mostly she's just very cute when she's had a few <3

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    Hmmm.

    Normally I have enough streamers followed that there's a good variety of things being played that I can hop between whatever I'm interested in.

    Literally everyone is playing Monster Hunter.
    "playing"

    Most of them are SO terrible at it. Jesus fucking Christ.

    Yeah a dude I watch has switched over to charge blade and I thought I was bad at it, holy shit he keeps full vials and gets overloaded never fires them, and he's using a rath cb against fire drakes... Its like "I know cbs get a lot of back seaters, but fuck sake dude you are doing nothing".
    I see a LOT of people going in with Insect Glaive and Charge Blade as their starter weapon, due to some sort of hubris that "I'm using the MOST COMPLICATED WEAPON in the HARDEST GAME" or some shit like that. I'm like "Umm, it's not THAT hard, and you aren't even doing the bare minimum of the not-hard moves".

    Honestly I swapped off the charge blade because I felt like personally on my solo hunts I was doing dumb stuff and I ended up tripping over myself to do moves and not getting consistent damage. I've been using the GS and Dual Blades because they are both not super complicated.

    I've been thinking of trying the SnS since I made the nergalos set this morning and it does good damage on elemental crit and the SnS has some cool super leap moves now.
    At least now, Charge Blade in this game has more upgrade paths. When it debuted, there was basically just one for most of Low Rank.

    In Monster Hunter Tri, Longsword had a similar problem. The endgame had something like... 11 endgame Longswords? And some of those were special "bonus" weapons that you only acquired later from Event quests.

    I've been using only Long Sword and Bow this game. I really should branch out. I've started upgrading a bunch of other weapons, but I've yet to break the seal on them yet.

    Yeah I remember tri's upgrade system and even 4U had some shit where some weapons were not usable at all at low levels due to not having the damage/upgrade paths of others.

    Its one thing I kind of bristle at when people complain there aren't enough upgrade paths in this game, because this one has so many more lower HR options and a lot of weapons that work end game instead of "just these two."

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    For every shot of Jaeger you don't take im slamming three

    Even if you are currently drinking jäger there's hypothetical jäger you are at currently not drinking

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    jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Let's be real: teetotallers can possibly be as annoying as an annoying vegan

    My experience is similar to that of a vegan: people treat me like shit out of defensiveness that I’m like, implicitly criticizing their lifestyle. Give me a vegan over a ‘for every cow you don’t eat I’ll eat three lol!!’ person any day. Same thing here.

    Comparing just vegan to militantly anti-vegan is unfair

    The equivalent is the evangelical vegan who is dumb as rocks. Your PETA people.

    If I was locked in a room with one of those and one of the for every cow you don't eat I'll eat three lol people and I had a gun with two bullets I'd shoot myself twice

    The point is that there aren't actually that many militant vegans. I've encountered militant vegans but they're pretty rare, and it's been a very long time.

    While the opposite, somebody who responds with defensiveness and derision to the mere suggestion that somebody in their presence is vegan, is all too common.

    there aren't many militant vegans in general, true

    however, if you ever hang out in certain parts of the Northern European radical left, hoo boy

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