My brother and sister-in-law just revealed to my parents that they're expecting another kid. My mum is very keen to know if it's going to be a boy or a girl, and it's making me weirdly uncomfortable, but I'm too meek to say anything.
There's a show on Netflix called Magic for Humans, which has a great episode centered around "Love".
For one trick, the magician (can't recall his name right now) is asked by some friends of his to do a show at their baby gender reveal party, but they make a huge deal right before to state that gender is a social construct, and no matter the initial gender of the child, that non-binary, gender-fluidity would also be acceptable to the parents and all people present.
Then he opens the box and out pops a gender studies professor.
This particular episode also happens to feature a few magic tricks done at a puppy party. As in, men who are subbed to their master and wear puppy fetish gear, and act like dogs.
"I represent the Void. Anything born from I shall be born of the void." *gender reveal balloons come out; they're tiny black holes Bound with runed cords*
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I don't understand either of those posts. I feel like I've missed some cultural thing.
‘Gender reveal’ parties have grown to be hugely popular in the U.S.; usually accompanied by something like cutting into a cake to show blue/pink sponge or opening a box to show blue/pink balloons (yuck).
(If I’ve misunderstood your question and you already know this, I’m sorry! Just I remembered they’re not done in the UK).
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Gender reveal parties are the dumbest thing. Who cares what bits it has! It's a baby!
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A friend of mine who had always been very supportive of gender fluidity, gender identity, and non-binary/non-conforming folks (at least according to shit he would share on Facebook) recently had a gender reveal party for his kid. They did the whole cake cutting thing to reveal pink frosting and everything.
Another friend commented that she was happy for him and his wife, but was a little disappointed that he would promote something like this, which is definitely a problematic thing to celebrate.
His reply was "it's different when it's your kid, and mind your business."
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
I don't understand either of those posts. I feel like I've missed some cultural thing.
‘Gender reveal’ parties have grown to be hugely popular in the U.S.; usually accompanied by something like cutting into a cake to show blue/pink sponge or opening a box to show blue/pink balloons (yuck).
(If I’ve misunderstood your question and you already know this, I’m sorry! Just I remembered they’re not done in the UK).
i saw my first one of these in the wild while cycling through the park a few days ago. Well, the preparations going up. Was equal parts horrified and fascinated.
A friend of mine who had always been very supportive of gender fluidity, gender identity, and non-binary/non-conforming folks (at least according to shit he would share on Facebook) recently had a gender reveal party for his kid. They did the whole cake cutting thing to reveal pink frosting and everything.
Another friend commented that she was happy for him and his wife, but was a little disappointed that he would promote something like this, which is definitely a problematic thing to celebrate.
His reply was "it's different when it's your kid, and mind your business."
That video makes me feel like a visitor from another planet
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It is very strange to be projecting gender onto a baby, when practically there won't be any difference.
At the same time, I get nervous about coming off as preachy to cis people. Thankfully the new parents I've known don't fixate, but I always make a point not to ask the baby's gender (again, weird thing to be the first question).
All of this talk is really reminding me of Revolutionary Girl Utena for some reason... can't imagine why though.
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Hrm, I told my wife I wouldn't be comfortable doing any kind of dramatic gender reveal spectacle and she seemed a bit disappointed. She specifically mentioned balloons...
It is very strange to be projecting gender onto a baby, when practically there won't be any difference.
At the same time, I get nervous about coming off as preachy to cis people. Thankfully the new parents I've known don't fixate, but I always make a point not to ask the baby's gender (again, weird thing to be the first question).
I am a cis person, and I find it all very strange. I’m also very bothered by the super-gendered gifts and clothes that are given at baby showers. They’re infants. Stop.
I’m aware that we have designated our kids a gender, but apart from the use of pronouns, Mori and I do our best not to apply stereotypes in any way. When Niko had long hair he was frequently referred to by strangers using she/her pronouns and we didn’t correct people (we also only cut his hair for ease-of-care purposes, because he was not letting me brush/wash it; I do let both kids choose their haircuts/clothes as much as possible). I’ve also been trying to use their names instead of pronouns.
It is very strange to be projecting gender onto a baby, when practically there won't be any difference.
At the same time, I get nervous about coming off as preachy to cis people. Thankfully the new parents I've known don't fixate, but I always make a point not to ask the baby's gender (again, weird thing to be the first question).
I am a cis person, and I find it all very strange. I’m also very bothered by the super-gendered gifts and clothes that are given at baby showers. They’re infants. Stop.
And parents also think they’re being ‘gender neutral’ by choosing green/white - no! All colors are for everyone.
I’ve also read that bias against color can form before speech - so, for example, to be truly equal you should be placing all babies in all colors, so they’re not forming any biases because, for example, you never put your baby in pink.
baby gowns used to be a thing for all kinds of babies
saw a baby picture of my dad where he was wearing a fancy looking one (apparently he was entered in a few baby beauty pageants? baby boom era thing, I guess)
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There's a photo somewhere of my uncle's christening, he's wearing the traditional flowy white baby gown and my father is sitting next to him. Now my father is four years older than his brother, but in this photo you can barely see him over this honking great Michelin-worthy infant, this bald sumo in a dress.
I wish I'd been there for THAT birthweight reveal party. What a stonker.
All of this talk is really reminding me of Revolutionary Girl Utena for some reason... can't imagine why though.
oh wow there's actually a video explicitly talking about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saxUf38tR-I
edit: Which I think might hit into the point at why attributing gender to babies is so uncomfortable. It is, probably usually unintentionally, a way to indoctrinate someone who is hardly even a person yet into conservative gender roles in order to conform to an ancient and outdated societal construct. Babies are adorable little lumps of flesh who barely have any cognitive abilities, so the idea that they would even care about gender is absurd.
Gender reveal parties are a self indulgent way for prospective parents to get people to make a fuss over them and give them stuff, they have nothing to do with the baby's gender and little enough to do with the baby itself. I'm glad my wife had no interest in one for our kids and that we agree that they're yucky.
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Gender reveal parties are a self indulgent way for prospective parents to get people to make a fuss over them and give them stuff, they have nothing to do with the baby's gender and little enough to do with the baby itself. I'm glad my wife had no interest in one for our kids and that we agree that they're yucky.
Actually I kind of like them when you phrase it like that
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There's a show on Netflix called Magic for Humans, which has a great episode centered around "Love".
For one trick, the magician (can't recall his name right now) is asked by some friends of his to do a show at their baby gender reveal party, but they make a huge deal right before to state that gender is a social construct, and no matter the initial gender of the child, that non-binary, gender-fluidity would also be acceptable to the parents and all people present.
This particular episode also happens to feature a few magic tricks done at a puppy party. As in, men who are subbed to their master and wear puppy fetish gear, and act like dogs.
Love takes many forms!
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‘Gender reveal’ parties have grown to be hugely popular in the U.S.; usually accompanied by something like cutting into a cake to show blue/pink sponge or opening a box to show blue/pink balloons (yuck).
(If I’ve misunderstood your question and you already know this, I’m sorry! Just I remembered they’re not done in the UK).
Another friend commented that she was happy for him and his wife, but was a little disappointed that he would promote something like this, which is definitely a problematic thing to celebrate.
His reply was "it's different when it's your kid, and mind your business."
i saw my first one of these in the wild while cycling through the park a few days ago. Well, the preparations going up. Was equal parts horrified and fascinated.
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At the same time, I get nervous about coming off as preachy to cis people. Thankfully the new parents I've known don't fixate, but I always make a point not to ask the baby's gender (again, weird thing to be the first question).
I am a cis person, and I find it all very strange. I’m also very bothered by the super-gendered gifts and clothes that are given at baby showers. They’re infants. Stop.
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I liked it that way.
And parents also think they’re being ‘gender neutral’ by choosing green/white - no! All colors are for everyone.
I’ve also read that bias against color can form before speech - so, for example, to be truly equal you should be placing all babies in all colors, so they’re not forming any biases because, for example, you never put your baby in pink.
saw a baby picture of my dad where he was wearing a fancy looking one (apparently he was entered in a few baby beauty pageants? baby boom era thing, I guess)
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I wish I'd been there for THAT birthweight reveal party. What a stonker.
Also, the bits don't tell you whether they're a boy or a girl
Also true!
edit: Which I think might hit into the point at why attributing gender to babies is so uncomfortable. It is, probably usually unintentionally, a way to indoctrinate someone who is hardly even a person yet into conservative gender roles in order to conform to an ancient and outdated societal construct. Babies are adorable little lumps of flesh who barely have any cognitive abilities, so the idea that they would even care about gender is absurd.
gender reveal party - except a toyota sprinter trueno tokyo drifts on to your lawn and does a shitload of donuts
congrats, it's a speedy speed boy
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Yes but also there's compilations of this sort of thing:
People are weird.
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“I’d like to play a game.”
Actually I kind of like them when you phrase it like that
I’m glad my brother and sister just had a normal baby shower
Other people wanted to introduce weird gendered stuff into it and they very steadfastly refused to do any such thing
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