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[Canadian Politics] No, we're never going to stop talking about pot legalization.
SwashbucklerXX
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At the time of this thread's creation, Canadian news isn't particularly good. We had the awful hockey team bus accident and now some jackass has killed a bunch of people in Toronto with a van.
I'm sure we'll be talking more about that one, but we can't let the terrorists win. We will keep going out on sunny days. We will keep celebrating our diverse communities. And we will keep posting pictures of our politicians in silly outfits.
Canadian Politicians in Silly Outfits!
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Liberal Party
This is what happens when a rich white dude thinks he's woke. Or something. We're not actually sure what this was.
Leader of the Official Opposition, Andrew Scheer, Conservative Party
Bonhomme can't make heads or tails of his French.
Leader of the NDP, Jagmeet Singh
He might be taking that "Jagmeet and Greet" concept a bit far here.
Leader of the Green Party, Elizabeth May
In happier times before her arrest at a Kinder Morgan pipeline protest.
Leader of the Bloc Quebecois, No Longer Martine Ouellet
By the power of Microsoft Paint 3D, I note thy resignation!
Current Canadian Politics in a Nutshell
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I'm sure we'll be talking more about that one, but we can't let the terrorists win. We will keep going out on sunny days. We will keep celebrating our diverse communities. And we will keep posting pictures of our politicians in silly outfits.
Canadian Politicians in Silly Outfits!
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Liberal Party
This is what happens when a rich white dude thinks he's woke. Or something. We're not actually sure what this was.
Leader of the Official Opposition, Andrew Scheer, Conservative Party
Bonhomme can't make heads or tails of his French.
Leader of the NDP, Jagmeet Singh
He might be taking that "Jagmeet and Greet" concept a bit far here.
Leader of the Green Party, Elizabeth May
In happier times before her arrest at a Kinder Morgan pipeline protest.
Leader of the Bloc Quebecois, No Longer Martine Ouellet
By the power of Microsoft Paint 3D, I note thy resignation!
Current Canadian Politics in a Nutshell
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Though I disagree that we have significantly less racial tension, especially where it concerns our relations with first nations.
I didnt remember the term so I googled it, it's that whole "involuntary celibate" nonsense, right?
I didn't want to talk about it previously but the Facebook post was just confirmed to be legitimate:
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Have you tried watching any of the "nerds" movies recently?
They are so creepy and rapey and makes me hate my past self for liking them.
One of my favorite takes on them was the Robot Chicken one, where they showed scenes from the movie, then had the nerds in a courtroom where the judge read off the various crimes they committed (including rape.) Puts it all in perspective, actually.
The incel "community" is what happens when entitlement and toxic masculinity crashes on the shores of reality.
A lot of sex comedies are pretty fucked up if you think about it. Everyone in Animal House should be in jail
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Recently the subreddit was shut down, due to doxxing and threatening harm, but they just regrouped and formed another subreddit with a different name.
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Dear Satan.....
They had a subreddit?
I honestly don't understand.... A bunch of dudes sitting around angry they are not getting laid and SUPER angry about it sounds like the pinnacle of stupidity.
Misery loves company.
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It's certainly no secret that people like having an external group/force to blame for ways they are suffering or they feel their lives are lacking. I don't think it really appeals through "let's all sit around bitching about how we're not getting laid", but more a matter of "we're not getting laid/enough, and here is why and who is to blame".
(The site tends to ignore the fact that they generally openly revere Rodger, because encouraging someone else's specific acts of violence doesn't count. Or something.)
More to the point, they consider not dating them to be a form of violence committed against them, and genuinely consider things like what happened in Toronto to be an act of admirable self-defense.
Even by the standards of a lot of radialized fringe groups they're really fucked up.
I sympathiz to a point, I recall being bitter about not getting laid when I was in my teens, and it felt like everyone else did, but if you're a fucking adult and still act this way, there's absolutely no excuse for it. There's so many things wrong with this mindset, it's hard to know where to start.
It's both. As I said last thread, some people are drawn to it because they have problems with relationships for one reason or another. But the movement itself serves as a vector for radicalisation, like basically every movement on the internet that recruits young white men. It gives them people to commiserate with and explanations for the things about their lives they dislike that give them someone else to blame.
It's really not that weird honestly. It's basically right in line with everything else about the modern extremist movements among young men.
I was not super popular with the ladies in high school. This made me take a long look at myself and wonder why and used that to make positive changes.
Guess that's a bridge too far for these dorks.
I really do wonder the effect on porn on guys like that. Has it distorted their view of how the whole sex thing works?
I'd blame pickup artists and "playa" culture first but I still think this is a problem that would start with the individual and less from outside influences.
Little tweak there.
You know what is one of the weirdest things in regards to this is?
r/metacanada and r/canada are among the subreddits that are toxic, attempting to radicalize, and have yet to be hit by the whack-a-troll hammer.
http://www.canadalandshow.com/podcast/need-talk-reddit/
It used to be useful for news and decent discussion but really around 2015 and the Trudeau liberal campaign it got fucking toxic.
I think the worst part was when I did start having sex and realized how much time I had wasted being angry about not getting any, when it wasnt even all that great. Sure, it's pretty fun but nowhere near worth all the crap you put yourself through in adolesence over it. If these guys ever actually do get laid, I wonder if they'll realize they essentially formed a hate cult for no reason.
Anyways yeah, sex is great but it's not the end of the world and these folks are making things even worse minute by minute participating in that culture.
If there is a sure fire way to turn any interested parties off being an incel is it.
Its moderation team basically got stacked by people from r/metacanada, which is one of those not-even-hiding it alt-right shitholes that provided Bernier with staff during the CPC primary.
To give you an idea of the current state of things, about half of r/canada's moderators are open white supremacists. It kinda sucks to blow off a sub with a subscriber base the size of Halifax as a lost cause, but... yeah.
I keep telling myself that that sub isn't representative of the country, between the demographics of the site in general and the mods' eagerness to enforce their views on the other, but it's difficult, and will probably be a lot more difficult this time next year. I do worry about what an increasingly doctrinaire community of that size does to national discourse in general, especially since a lot of people wouldn't know the reason it got the way it did in the last couple of years and assume that is just the way Canadians think.
As an outsider, no... we don't think of Canada that way. Y'all are viewed as our overly polite neighbors and until these posts I had no idea you were dealing with a prevalent white supremacist issue.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Off topic but I'm poly and have had an open relationship for years. I currently live with my wife of 18 years and our girlfriend will be moving in soon.
I was a shy dorky teenager that always struggled with what to say to women. Like nervous breakdown when the pretty girl in class asked for a pencil type thing. The olde I have gotten the more I realized that they just want to be LISTENED to most of the time. Treat a lady with respect and be engaged with their ideas and points of view. They don't owe us anything and these losers can't seem to accept that they are generally the cause of their celibacy.
Every western country has white supremacists, they've just become a much more visible issue in the past few years
How we avoid having our own Trump or Brexit I have no idea.
I think the best you have is that you're far enough behind the other bubbles that by the time it's time for Doug Ford to be PM, the bubbles will have popped elsewhere.
Toronto has enough of these dickheads
Between PUAs teaching each other how to be terrible fucks to women at the Eaton Centre and men's rights activists in our universities and this piece of human garbage who barreled across a neighborhood basically next door to mine I feel like anyone with the barest hint of MRA leanings or self-identification in that gross-ass "culture" are just... badly in need of rehabilitation, to put it mildly
That van attack happened right outside my gym
What a piece of shit
Anyone who could look favourably on men like Elliott Rodger is just... like, it's beyond the pale, it's ideological poison on a level that goes beyond all reason, it's outright disgusting, it's repulsive
Like, while we have young men committing mass killing across North America I almost think they're worse than your conventional terrorist groups
Seriously when I think about it I think geopolitical unrest contributes for a lot of factors that seriously influence young men who end up in these groups, and while I wouldn't say I feel sad for them there's not that same feeling of disgust and revulsion I have for the kind of man who pulls this shit because what, they can't get a date?
I know it's an oversimplification but where along the way did things go wrong? How do young men not learn a basic level of respect for their fellow man and woman? How does someone get to such an age with such inability to make sense of their world that the answer is to violently lash out at society?
It would make me sad to think of the kind of loneliness that must drive their actions if I didn't feel such raw contempt for the rot in their heart.
I feel like just spitting hot fire right now but there has to be some productive way to confront the issue with young men today and their shitty sense of entitlement for women's attention, and I hate that Toronto feels particularly bad for it between the PUA problem we had (have?) downtown, the MRAs in our colleges, and now this.
Fuck this guy and everyone like him.