My favorite flat Earth theory was that the Earth is surrounded by a giant ice sheet, basically a little puddle in the ice. But, if you go far enough, you will find other puddles, other Earth's.
It's crazy as hell, but would make for a really cool fantasy universe.
There's another extension of this where the giant ice sheet is an enormous ball, pock-marked with melted discs, but since the ball is so big each of those discs is, for all intents, flat. The Great Ice Ball Theory, I think. It's my favorite because they're so so close to getting back to "round planet" but missed the mark by just enough.
So, you basically throw out the laws of gravity only to come right back to.... we're on a round planet....
Okay, question. Say the Earth was flat. How far could you see? Flat earthers love to point out there is no curve on the horizon, but if the Earth was flat, you would be able to see like, basically for ever, right?
Okay, question. Say the Earth was flat. How far could you see? Flat earthers love to point out there is no curve on the horizon, but if the Earth was flat, you would be able to see like, basically for ever, right?
Since most flat earthers believe that what we call the antarctic continent is actually a super-large landmass circling the flat earth, what does that make of Amundsen and Scott and their separate expeditions to the South Pole?
Now, in the real world, Amundsen beat Scott in the race to the South Pole. Amundsen returned safely with no casualties (other than a bunch of sled dogs they ate), while every member of Scott's expedition that attempted the journey died on the return trip. (Those who stayed with the ship survived.)
But what happened on flat earth? Here's my theory:
Scott was a British, educated gentleman who relied on the latest and greatest in science and technology, and naturally believed the Earth to be round (everything in this sentence is historically accurate). Amundsen had made several trips in the Arctic and had among other things also lived among the Inuit (also true). Being so close to the North Pole, he naturally ran into the lizard people that live in the plane below the flat earth (entrance through the North Pole) who told him what's what about the shape of the Earth. Naturally, he sensed an opportunity.
So Scott made an obviously doomed effort to reach the non-existent South Pole and died in the attempt. Amundsen faffed about in the Antarctic for a couple of months, probably sipping piña coladas and harassing the penguins. After Scott made his inevitable demise, Amundsen returned home a hero. Since the South Pole doesn't exist, no one can dispute his claim.
Except, of course, those of us who know the TRUTH, but we're held back by the Illuminati/Jewish cabal/space aliens in order to sell over-priced globes to the sheeple.
Okay, question. Say the Earth was flat. How far could you see? Flat earthers love to point out there is no curve on the horizon, but if the Earth was flat, you would be able to see like, basically for ever, right?
You'd be amazing how sensitive the human eye is. We can see stars hundreds of light years away with just the naked eye, yet if the Earth was flat, why can't we detect, say, a city at night just beyond the horizon?
But seriously, studies show that the human eye can detect as few as 5-7 photons. You can't produce an image with so few, but your eyes feel it. Some studies have had human eyes detect few as a single photon. So, technically, our eyes can "detect" the light from galaxies across the fucking universe, but obviously there's not enough to produce an image.
The point is, if the Earth is flat, how come I can't detect the lights of New York City from Pennsylvania?
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My favorite flat Earth theory was that the Earth is surrounded by a giant ice sheet, basically a little puddle in the ice. But, if you go far enough, you will find other puddles, other Earth's.
It's crazy as hell, but would make for a really cool fantasy universe.
There's another extension of this where the giant ice sheet is an enormous ball, pock-marked with melted discs, but since the ball is so big each of those discs is, for all intents, flat. The Great Ice Ball Theory, I think. It's my favorite because they're so so close to getting back to "round planet" but missed the mark by just enough.
I will go one better on the ice ball, and go Hollow-Earth where the ice-ball is a dyson sphere around a star that flared up and turned the surface-world to slag before the emergency shutdown could quench the star within.
The sol-satellites are an attempt to thaw the surface before restarting it; the scope of the project, whether it is ongoing or abandoned, and what it means to the current residents, is explored in later books.
As I posted that in the previous thread, I feel obligated to add to it:
Later books then reveal that it isn't a sphere at all, and we're actually experiments growing on the backside of a fully functional ring world.
The sol-satellites are little more than mirrors reflecting the actual star; hence why they are flat discs. This is discovered in a climactic moment after we send a vessel behind the "sun" to determine it's power source, and the vessel transmits an image peering over the lip of the ring at a massive fireball so bright and large that the first, faint glimpse of the inner-ring's surface beyond it is written off as a visual artifact.
One really nuts flavor of flat earth I've heard is that only the earth is flat, and the sun, stars and planets are all spheres and more or less exist as science describes them except the rotate geocentrically. Gravity is actually the force of the Earth constantly accelerating 'upwards' like some kind of giant rocket ship, which is a very fun visual. Of course the theory was all based on the Bible, and the Bible doesn't say that the Earth isn't a giant rocket disc. It's like Flat Earth for people that like the idea of outer space, but still hate science.
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Like, seriously, going from like Ontario or Quebec out to the prairies, the minute you hit the flat plains for the first time you suddenly realise that your whole life there's always been a hill at some point in the distance, blocking your view, but you've never really thought about it.
Like, seriously, going from like Ontario or Quebec out to the prairies, the minute you hit the flat plains for the first time you suddenly realise that your whole life there's always been a hill at some point in the distance, blocking your view, but you've never really thought about it.
If the Earth had been flat you should still have been able to see across, say, the Atlantic. No hills on the ocean.
Like, seriously, going from like Ontario or Quebec out to the prairies, the minute you hit the flat plains for the first time you suddenly realise that your whole life there's always been a hill at some point in the distance, blocking your view, but you've never really thought about it.
If the Earth had been flat you should still have been able to see across, say, the Atlantic. No hills on the ocean.
Like, seriously, going from like Ontario or Quebec out to the prairies, the minute you hit the flat plains for the first time you suddenly realise that your whole life there's always been a hill at some point in the distance, blocking your view, but you've never really thought about it.
If the Earth had been flat you should still have been able to see across, say, the Atlantic. No hills on the ocean.
They're called waves.
/checkmate
Also, there actually are hills in the ocean.
Not large or steep ones, but the sea level is not, well, level, some parts are higher than others forming hills and valleys within the ocean.
One really nuts flavor of flat earth I've heard is that only the earth is flat, and the sun, stars and planets are all spheres and more or less exist as science describes them except the rotate geocentrically. Gravity is actually the force of the Earth constantly accelerating 'upwards' like some kind of giant rocket ship, which is a very fun visual. Of course the theory was all based on the Bible, and the Bible doesn't say that the Earth isn't a giant rocket disc. It's like Flat Earth for people that like the idea of outer space, but still hate science.
so this, but with the earth where the sun is...and flat.
What I really wanna see is someone make a visual reference of Earth revolving around the Sun (with the moon revolving around the Earth), the Sun revolving around the galaxy, with the galaxy moving through the cluster towards Andromeda, with... I have no idea about any movement beyond that.
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Plenty of content creators use porn sites to host content they don't want being rendered inaccessible, or to make pithy memes/sex jokes about current events. Jones being banned from pornsites is a slight improvement on fantastic community management policies.
Apparently there were some people who didn't know Jones was a Nazi until Trump. Which is weird because the entire Icke/Jones split resulted because Icke realized Jones was a crypto and Jones realized Icke wasn't.
Porn stream sites have also become a common fallback for steamers exiled from Twitch and YouTube for racism and whatnot.
One really nuts flavor of flat earth I've heard is that only the earth is flat, and the sun, stars and planets are all spheres and more or less exist as science describes them except the rotate geocentrically. Gravity is actually the force of the Earth constantly accelerating 'upwards' like some kind of giant rocket ship, which is a very fun visual. Of course the theory was all based on the Bible, and the Bible doesn't say that the Earth isn't a giant rocket disc. It's like Flat Earth for people that like the idea of outer space, but still hate science.
so this, but with the earth where the sun is...and flat.
Also, without causality, because constant force = constant acceleration = speed exceeds c.
Like, seriously, going from like Ontario or Quebec out to the prairies, the minute you hit the flat plains for the first time you suddenly realise that your whole life there's always been a hill at some point in the distance, blocking your view, but you've never really thought about it.
If the Earth had been flat you should still have been able to see across, say, the Atlantic. No hills on the ocean.
One really nuts flavor of flat earth I've heard is that only the earth is flat, and the sun, stars and planets are all spheres and more or less exist as science describes them except the rotate geocentrically. Gravity is actually the force of the Earth constantly accelerating 'upwards' like some kind of giant rocket ship, which is a very fun visual. Of course the theory was all based on the Bible, and the Bible doesn't say that the Earth isn't a giant rocket disc. It's like Flat Earth for people that like the idea of outer space, but still hate science.
so this, but with the earth where the sun is...and flat.
Also, without causality, because constant force = constant acceleration = speed exceeds c.
Oh yeah! I forgot about that. You need constant acceleration keep up 9.8 m/s² for gravity. At that acceleration, you'd be going 77% the speed of light after just one year.
Over 99% C after two years.
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One really nuts flavor of flat earth I've heard is that only the earth is flat, and the sun, stars and planets are all spheres and more or less exist as science describes them except the rotate geocentrically. Gravity is actually the force of the Earth constantly accelerating 'upwards' like some kind of giant rocket ship, which is a very fun visual. Of course the theory was all based on the Bible, and the Bible doesn't say that the Earth isn't a giant rocket disc. It's like Flat Earth for people that like the idea of outer space, but still hate science.
so this, but with the earth where the sun is...and flat.
Also, without causality, because constant force = constant acceleration = speed exceeds c.
Oh yeah! I forgot about that. You need constant acceleration keep up 9.8 m/s² for gravity. At that acceleration, you'd be going 77% the speed of light after just one year.
Over 99% C after two years.
Not actually a problem since you can never hit c. Alernative the seasons are caused by flat Earth turning around to go the other way :P
One really nuts flavor of flat earth I've heard is that only the earth is flat, and the sun, stars and planets are all spheres and more or less exist as science describes them except the rotate geocentrically. Gravity is actually the force of the Earth constantly accelerating 'upwards' like some kind of giant rocket ship, which is a very fun visual. Of course the theory was all based on the Bible, and the Bible doesn't say that the Earth isn't a giant rocket disc. It's like Flat Earth for people that like the idea of outer space, but still hate science.
so this, but with the earth where the sun is...and flat.
Also, without causality, because constant force = constant acceleration = speed exceeds c.
Oh yeah! I forgot about that. You need constant acceleration keep up 9.8 m/s² for gravity. At that acceleration, you'd be going 77% the speed of light after just one year.
Over 99% C after two years.
Not actually a problem since you can never hit c. Alernative the seasons are caused by flat Earth turning around to go the other way :P
No, a constant acceleration will linearly approach c. A constant force will result in decreasing acceleration as inertial mass increases.
However, I think constant acceleration may be a poor wording? As strictly speaking 9.8 m/s^2 is just the acceleration you get from gravity absent any other forces. So in that model you would need a constant force, and thus decreasing acceleration over time, I think? I'm not using paper or anything here, so I could be wrong.
One really nuts flavor of flat earth I've heard is that only the earth is flat, and the sun, stars and planets are all spheres and more or less exist as science describes them except the rotate geocentrically. Gravity is actually the force of the Earth constantly accelerating 'upwards' like some kind of giant rocket ship, which is a very fun visual. Of course the theory was all based on the Bible, and the Bible doesn't say that the Earth isn't a giant rocket disc. It's like Flat Earth for people that like the idea of outer space, but still hate science.
so this, but with the earth where the sun is...and flat.
Also, without causality, because constant force = constant acceleration = speed exceeds c.
Oh yeah! I forgot about that. You need constant acceleration keep up 9.8 m/s² for gravity. At that acceleration, you'd be going 77% the speed of light after just one year.
Over 99% C after two years.
Not actually a problem since you can never hit c. Alernative the seasons are caused by flat Earth turning around to go the other way :P
No, a constant acceleration will linearly approach c. A constant force will result in decreasing acceleration as inertial mass increases.
However, I think constant acceleration may be a poor wording? As strictly speaking 9.8 m/s^2 is just the acceleration you get from gravity absent any other forces. So in that model you would need a constant force, and thus decreasing acceleration over time, I think? I'm not using paper or anything here, so I could be wrong.
As you got closer to C, your acceleration would slow from the perspective of others, BUT from your perspective time and distance measurement would experience lorentz contraction so you would still feel the same force.
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Like, seriously, going from like Ontario or Quebec out to the prairies, the minute you hit the flat plains for the first time you suddenly realise that your whole life there's always been a hill at some point in the distance, blocking your view, but you've never really thought about it.
If the Earth had been flat you should still have been able to see across, say, the Atlantic. No hills on the ocean.
James Randi had a great method for talking about homeopathy. He would open up and ingest an entire bottle or package of homeopathic sleeping pills at the start of a lecture (without telling anyone what he was doing) and then at the end of the lecture would bring up the fact that he took them at the start of the lecture. A good practical demonstration of how effective they are.
The neat thing is that you can easily replicate this yourself.
Not necessarily a good idea. Some medicines use homeopathic to mean herbal and do have ingredients that might make you sick.
Given that the bulk of bitcoin is literally in the hands of a cabal, I wonder why there aren't more hilarious conspiracy theories about cryptocurrencies... or maybe I just haven't been exposed to them.
Cryptocurrencies literally have the word "crypt" in their name! If you want an anagram-based conspiracy, it's RIGHT THERE!
Cryptocurrencies literally involve burning enormous amount of energy on calculations! If you want a conspiracy built around either destabilizing governments or destroying our fuel reserves or making energy too expensive for ordinary people or just destroying the environment, it's RIGHT THERE!
The biggest cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, has a shadowy founder that we literally don't know anything about! It could be one person, or a team of people, or a government, or the lizard people!
On top of it all, surely by now lots of ordinary people have bet big and lost big on cryptocurrencies, and that resentment alone should fuel some kind of conspiracy theory generation.
BuzzFeed is now throwing out that qanon is actually a conspiracy itself.
Supposedly it is a group of Italian leftist writers out to discredit Trump followers.
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BuzzFeed is now throwing out that qanon is actually a conspiracy itself.
Supposedly it is a group of Italian leftist writers out to discredit Trump followers.
Trying to discredit trump followers is about as useful putting on a pink hat with cat ears for a day and claiming to be part of the resistance
BuzzFeed is now throwing out that qanon is actually a conspiracy itself.
Supposedly it is a group of Italian leftist writers out to discredit Trump followers.
BuzzFeed is now throwing out that qanon is actually a conspiracy itself.
Supposedly it is a group of Italian leftist writers out to discredit Trump followers.
That feels like an attempt at making literal clowns more ridiculous by handing them a shipment of shoes even more floppy than the ones they're already wearing.
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So, you basically throw out the laws of gravity only to come right back to.... we're on a round planet....
Dark matter lensing.
Now, in the real world, Amundsen beat Scott in the race to the South Pole. Amundsen returned safely with no casualties (other than a bunch of sled dogs they ate), while every member of Scott's expedition that attempted the journey died on the return trip. (Those who stayed with the ship survived.)
But what happened on flat earth? Here's my theory:
Scott was a British, educated gentleman who relied on the latest and greatest in science and technology, and naturally believed the Earth to be round (everything in this sentence is historically accurate). Amundsen had made several trips in the Arctic and had among other things also lived among the Inuit (also true). Being so close to the North Pole, he naturally ran into the lizard people that live in the plane below the flat earth (entrance through the North Pole) who told him what's what about the shape of the Earth. Naturally, he sensed an opportunity.
So Scott made an obviously doomed effort to reach the non-existent South Pole and died in the attempt. Amundsen faffed about in the Antarctic for a couple of months, probably sipping piña coladas and harassing the penguins. After Scott made his inevitable demise, Amundsen returned home a hero. Since the South Pole doesn't exist, no one can dispute his claim.
Except, of course, those of us who know the TRUTH, but we're held back by the Illuminati/Jewish cabal/space aliens in order to sell over-priced globes to the sheeple.
You'd be amazing how sensitive the human eye is. We can see stars hundreds of light years away with just the naked eye, yet if the Earth was flat, why can't we detect, say, a city at night just beyond the horizon?
But seriously, studies show that the human eye can detect as few as 5-7 photons. You can't produce an image with so few, but your eyes feel it. Some studies have had human eyes detect few as a single photon. So, technically, our eyes can "detect" the light from galaxies across the fucking universe, but obviously there's not enough to produce an image.
The point is, if the Earth is flat, how come I can't detect the lights of New York City from Pennsylvania?
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I will go one better on the ice ball, and go Hollow-Earth where the ice-ball is a dyson sphere around a star that flared up and turned the surface-world to slag before the emergency shutdown could quench the star within.
The sol-satellites are an attempt to thaw the surface before restarting it; the scope of the project, whether it is ongoing or abandoned, and what it means to the current residents, is explored in later books.
As I posted that in the previous thread, I feel obligated to add to it:
Later books then reveal that it isn't a sphere at all, and we're actually experiments growing on the backside of a fully functional ring world.
The sol-satellites are little more than mirrors reflecting the actual star; hence why they are flat discs. This is discovered in a climactic moment after we send a vessel behind the "sun" to determine it's power source, and the vessel transmits an image peering over the lip of the ring at a massive fireball so bright and large that the first, faint glimpse of the inner-ring's surface beyond it is written off as a visual artifact.
This is what comes to mind for me.
Hills.
Like, seriously, going from like Ontario or Quebec out to the prairies, the minute you hit the flat plains for the first time you suddenly realise that your whole life there's always been a hill at some point in the distance, blocking your view, but you've never really thought about it.
If the Earth had been flat you should still have been able to see across, say, the Atlantic. No hills on the ocean.
They're called waves.
/checkmate
Also, there actually are hills in the ocean.
Not large or steep ones, but the sea level is not, well, level, some parts are higher than others forming hills and valleys within the ocean.
You mean the light obscuring particles they put in the air via chemtrails?
so this, but with the earth where the sun is...and flat.
What I really wanna see is someone make a visual reference of Earth revolving around the Sun (with the moon revolving around the Earth), the Sun revolving around the galaxy, with the galaxy moving through the cluster towards Andromeda, with... I have no idea about any movement beyond that.
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Porn stream sites have also become a common fallback for steamers exiled from Twitch and YouTube for racism and whatnot.
Also, without causality, because constant force = constant acceleration = speed exceeds c.
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Seahills.
Oh yeah! I forgot about that. You need constant acceleration keep up 9.8 m/s² for gravity. At that acceleration, you'd be going 77% the speed of light after just one year.
Over 99% C after two years.
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Not actually a problem since you can never hit c. Alernative the seasons are caused by flat Earth turning around to go the other way :P
No, a constant acceleration will linearly approach c. A constant force will result in decreasing acceleration as inertial mass increases.
However, I think constant acceleration may be a poor wording? As strictly speaking 9.8 m/s^2 is just the acceleration you get from gravity absent any other forces. So in that model you would need a constant force, and thus decreasing acceleration over time, I think? I'm not using paper or anything here, so I could be wrong.
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edit-I don't know why I typed "deceleration".
And I'll admit that's mostly because at least if they are the ones that are right, that's 5 more animals for me to try and pet!
As you got closer to C, your acceleration would slow from the perspective of others, BUT from your perspective time and distance measurement would experience lorentz contraction so you would still feel the same force.
Edit: I meant to post this elsewhere.
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Oh no, you can believe me.
With Ryan and McConnell we are indeed getting right proper fucked.
Isn’t that just Discworld?
I think it was a cosmology in some real world cultures.
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One example: Zinc lozenges. You'll see zinc lozenges sold with "homeopathic" on the label, and a significant amount of zinc in them. Why? Because homeopathic medications are allowed to specify that they treat a specific condition. If you sold regular zinc lozenges, you would not be able to state that they're for treatment of the common cold, because that hasn't been proven. However, slap "homeopathic" on the label, and suddenly they can shorten your cold.
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Cryptocurrencies literally have the word "crypt" in their name! If you want an anagram-based conspiracy, it's RIGHT THERE!
Cryptocurrencies literally involve burning enormous amount of energy on calculations! If you want a conspiracy built around either destabilizing governments or destroying our fuel reserves or making energy too expensive for ordinary people or just destroying the environment, it's RIGHT THERE!
The biggest cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, has a shadowy founder that we literally don't know anything about! It could be one person, or a team of people, or a government, or the lizard people!
On top of it all, surely by now lots of ordinary people have bet big and lost big on cryptocurrencies, and that resentment alone should fuel some kind of conspiracy theory generation.
Supposedly it is a group of Italian leftist writers out to discredit Trump followers.
Trying to discredit trump followers is about as useful putting on a pink hat with cat ears for a day and claiming to be part of the resistance
How did they ever think that would work?
That feels like an attempt at making literal clowns more ridiculous by handing them a shipment of shoes even more floppy than the ones they're already wearing.
A literal fool's errand, if you will.