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Mods know too much about the [Conspiracy Theories] thread

HevachHevach Registered User regular
edited July 2018 in Debate and/or Discourse
The internet is four things: Cat videos, porn videos, cat porn videos, and conspiracy theories. This is the thread about all of the above just the last one. Just the last one.

There are billions of conspiracy theories. Just a few of them:

Flat Earth
Every pilot, astronaut, ship captain and basically all of science for the last two thousand years has been an elaborate hoax to sell expensive spherical paperweights, because when you think, "Mega rich assholes who rule the world," you think Globe Salesmen!
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A couple years ago Flat Earth was kind of fun, full of trolls and bored grad students coming up with complex but workable physical models to fool the true believers, who were all probably trolls. At some point, Flat Earth became the new Yong Earth Creationism, and now all the fun is gone, replaced by willful ignorance and moral repugnance

9/11
Bush knew about 9/11 and did nothing. Bush DID 9/11. Jews did 9/11. 9/11 was a botched demolition job and the attack was a coverup. 9/11 was an elaborate display of CGI, holographic planes, and orbital directed energy weapons.
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Spoiler alert: Those are all things people claim, I made none of them up. 9/11 is the mother of many modern conspiracy theories, with aspects of it splitting off into many others.

False Flags
All mass shootings, bombings, terrorist attacks, and military action using banned weapons is a hoax. Crisis Actors portray the victims and nobody actually dies. This is always immediately followed by the government taking all your guns.
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Marked by harassment of victims and trespassing on scenes, Alex Jones has managed to make this the most mainstream on this list, advocated by Donald Trump Jr and actual elected officials in the wake of the Parkland shooting.

Chemtrails
Airplanes spray stuff from the sky for reasons.
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What they're spraying and why changes almost every day, but believers in this one REALLY believe it, and have attacked pilots and TV meteorologists, and are behind many laser attacks on planes taking off or landing. Often closely associated with the older Morgellons Disease theory, in which sufferers believe fibers or crystals are growing out of their bodies (generally just bits of stuff from their surroundings getting stuck).

Sovereign Citizens
Everybody is born megarich, you just need to figure out how to access it. Also, laws only apply if you consent to them. And if you accidentally consent, you just need to separate your legal name from your physical self and escape all consequences.
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SovCit theory works like a procedural magic system. They mash words and numbers together in hopes of finding the correct combination to unlock the secret of eternal life and inexhaustible wealth.

Aliens
Aliens!
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This guy almost seems quaint now.

Reptilians
Reptilians!
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Basically the same thing.

Q Anon/The Storm
All of the above and also Donald Trump is the smartest man in the universe and his entire trainwreck of an existence is an elaborate ruse to camouflage his campaign to take down the global Satanic conspiracy to molest children and extract their adrenochrome. Really.
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Basically this whole theory is like watching a Voyager Q episode that isn't Death Wish while attempting autoerotic asphyxiation with a paper bag.

By request:
TimeCube
Time is a six-sided cube in four rotations, and if you don't believe this you are retarded and also homosexual and you personally nailed Jesus to the cross. Really.
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The Internet Original, an incomprehensible -ism onion which somehow racked up a body count.


By Decree of Bogart of The Secret Brotherhood Of Wisdom And Also Chemtrails And Fixing Sports Matches And Cancelling Beloved TV Shows After Showing Episodes Out Of Order:
This thread is FOR: A fun look at this particular brand of internet wackiness.
What this thread is NOT FOR: Advocating your personal theory about how Swingline is a front to smuggle Jewish gold out of the Vatican.



Resources:
There's plenty of places on the internet to help decide if something is true or crazy. A few of my personal favorites:


Snopes
The original urban legend website, expanded into the ever widening world of people being wrong on the Internet. Subject of a weird ownership dispute which does not seem to have greatly impacted its track record.

International Skeptics Forum
A merger of a couple other forums including the James Ramsey Educational Foundation, source of many of the derogatory terms applied to conspiracy theorists and their activities such as "JAQing off." Conspiracy theorists who appear here can expect to be treated with the calm, measured, reasonable, respectful reception of Hillary Clinton on the Donald Trump subreddit.

Metabunk
A somewhat harshly moderated website with a more narrow focus than ISF/JREF. Metabunk explicitly addresses purported evidence, not overarching theories, with the thought being that if you kick all the legs out from under a table it ceases to be a table. Metabunk tolerates conspiracy theorists to come and argue their case and often even holds them to a lower standard than regular members to avoid claims that they silence dissent, even including two subforums where the rules are relaxed specifically to avoid outright deleting rambling gish gallops and JAQing Off sessions. Ironically, Metabunk, its non-forum sister sites Contrail Science and Morgellons Watch, and those sites' owner, former video game developer Mick West, are all major boogeymen in numerous conspiracy theory circles, while ISF/JREF are not.

Rationalwiki
Wiki for conspiracy theories and debunking, not really a place for original research but a far better place to get details of exactly what a theory claims and how it's wrong than sifting through a playlist of two hour Youtube videos consisting of nothing but memes set to music.

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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Fighting The Rising Odds Registered User, Moderator mod
    This thread is tentatively approved by the Illuminati who definitely don't exist but who also told me to tell you to watch your step.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    I see you are trying to downplay the Time Cube.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    PLA wrote: »
    I see you are trying to downplay the Time Cube.

    I even had something typed up about it. Added it back in on pure internet notability.

    Hevach on
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  • QuidQuid I don't... what... hnnng Registered User regular
    Time Cube guy just makes me kinda sad.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    Time Cube guy just makes me kinda sad.

    Yeah, he took the "I think you might need help," of most CTs and took it to, "You definitely need meds, and I'll personally take you to get them as a public service." He managed to amass just a single follower, who he eventually turned on, prompting said follower to throw himself in front of a train.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    The Time Cube is an early internet example of much of the internet getting together and kind of encouraging a person's problems as entertainment instead of just wishing they would get help.

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  • Giggles_FunsworthGiggles_Funsworth Paranoiac Bay Area SprawlRegistered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    Time Cube guy just makes me kinda sad.

    Yeah, he took the "I think you might need help," of most CTs and took it to, "You definitely need meds, and I'll personally take you to get them as a public service." He managed to amass just a single follower, who he eventually turned on, prompting said follower to throw himself in front of a train.

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  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    What the fuck does the time cube even fuckin mean? What eldritch formulation is this?

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  • Edith UpwardsEdith Upwards Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    There's a massive thing that controls everything (God's simultaneous four way time cube square day cubelaw), and it's good, and it keeps the races separate as God intended, but the EDUCATED STUPID, uh, something something, math is wrong, jews did 1917 which manages to be both a form of blood libel and incredibly patronizing, one is the same as 0.999^* and something about the jews using the gays and the blacks to keep white men down.

    It's communist gangster computer god but backwards, conceived of by a fundie jerk, and the racism and spite are fundamental pillars and foundation of it rather than something that takes a back-seat to machine-influence schizophrenia and the horrifying pain experienced by a mind aware of its deterioration and trying, desperately, to explain as its own explaining mechanisms are themselves deteriorating.

    e: Too Weird, Didn't Understand: Time Cube is exactly the same kind of conspiracy as Communist Gangster Computer God, but the time cube guy's an asshole, rather than a lawyer trying to sue a judge he accuses of using "frankenstein-brain-radio" to make him look crazy in front of his friends and peers.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    There's a massive thing that controls everything (God's simultaneous four way time cube square day cubelaw), and it's good, and it keeps the races separate as God intended, but the EDUCATED STUPID, uh, something something, math is wrong, jews did 1917 which manages to be both a form of blood libel and incredibly patronizing, one is the same as 0.999^* and something about the jews using the gays and the blacks to keep white men down.

    It's communist gangster computer god but backwards, conceived of by a fundie jerk, and the racism and spite are fundamental pillars and foundation of it rather than something that takes a back-seat to machine-influence schizophrenia and the horrifying pain experienced by a mind aware of its deterioration and trying, desperately, to explain as its own explaining mechanisms are themselves deteriorating.

    e: Too Weird, Didn't Understand: Time Cube is exactly the same kind of conspiracy as Communist Gangster Computer God, but the time cube guy's an asshole, rather than a lawyer trying to sue a judge he accuses of using "frankenstein-brain-radio" to make him look crazy in front of his friends and peers.

    The way you know a conspiracy theory is a good one is when in the act of describing it I have zero idea if you are just doing a bit or actually trying to explain it.

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    There's a massive thing that controls everything (God's simultaneous four way time cube square day cubelaw), and it's good, and it keeps the races separate as God intended, but the EDUCATED STUPID, uh, something something, math is wrong, jews did 1917 which manages to be both a form of blood libel and incredibly patronizing, one is the same as 0.999^* and something about the jews using the gays and the blacks to keep white men down.

    It's communist gangster computer god but backwards, conceived of by a fundie jerk, and the racism and spite are fundamental pillars and foundation of it rather than something that takes a back-seat to machine-influence schizophrenia and the horrifying pain experienced by a mind aware of its deterioration and trying, desperately, to explain as its own explaining mechanisms are themselves deteriorating.

    e: Too Weird, Didn't Understand: Time Cube is exactly the same kind of conspiracy as Communist Gangster Computer God, but the time cube guy's an asshole, rather than a lawyer trying to sue a judge he accuses of using "frankenstein-brain-radio" to make him look crazy in front of his friends and peers.

    I like that your edit to make it more understandable is just as unintelligible to me. A+ conspiracy theory.

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    There's a massive thing that controls everything (God's simultaneous four way time cube square day cubelaw), and it's good, and it keeps the races separate as God intended, but the EDUCATED STUPID, uh, something something, math is wrong, jews did 1917 which manages to be both a form of blood libel and incredibly patronizing, one is the same as 0.999^* and something about the jews using the gays and the blacks to keep white men down.

    It's communist gangster computer god but backwards, conceived of by a fundie jerk, and the racism and spite are fundamental pillars and foundation of it rather than something that takes a back-seat to machine-influence schizophrenia and the horrifying pain experienced by a mind aware of its deterioration and trying, desperately, to explain as its own explaining mechanisms are themselves deteriorating.

    e: Too Weird, Didn't Understand: Time Cube is exactly the same kind of conspiracy as Communist Gangster Computer God, but the time cube guy's an asshole, rather than a lawyer trying to sue a judge he accuses of using "frankenstein-brain-radio" to make him look crazy in front of his friends and peers.

    The way you know a conspiracy theory is a good one is when in the act of describing it I have zero idea if you are just doing a bit or actually trying to explain it.
    It doesn't help that we've entered the timeline where satire is indistinguishable from everyday events.

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  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    This guy does a fairly deep dive on TimeCube and lays it out well



    Also new Conspiracy Thread means I gotta post da bes debunking video


    Oh brilliant
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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    One of my fathers friends suddenly started talking about "a special location on the internet" where a source called Q-Anon reports things every now and then.

    Because of how the law works, when Trump said that the pizzagate-satanists are of national interest, the military were forced to begin a secret military investigation, that has been fighting occult billionaires ever since. Trump knew how to do this special move because he is a genius. And because it's a secret military investigation, they have to use secret military courts, where they get better results because there isn't any paperwork or standards of evidence.
    They'll eventually make the case solid enough to reach the so far untouchable FBI-mafia led by Mueller. They have to defeat the Clinton-family in the shadows, first.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    One of my fathers friends suddenly started talking about "a special location on the internet" where a source called Q-Anon reports things every now and then.

    Because of how the law works, when Trump said that the pizzagate-satanists are of national interest, the military were forced to begin a secret military investigation, that has been fighting occult billionaires ever since. Trump knew how to do this special move because he is a genius. And because it's a secret military investigation, they have to use secret military courts, where they get better results because there isn't any paperwork or standards of evidence.
    They'll eventually make the case solid enough to reach the so far untouchable FBI-mafia led by Mueller. They have to defeat the Clinton-family in the shadows, first.

    New Metal Gear games really going off the rails

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  • MortiousMortious The Nightmare Begins Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Since Bogart mentioned match fixing, there's a thing widely believed in New Zealand that the 1995 All Blacks team were deliberately poisoned before their last match.

    Still gets news coverage every so often.

    Move to New Zealand
    It’s not a very important country most of the time
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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    One of my fathers friends suddenly started talking about "a special location on the internet" where a source called Q-Anon reports things every now and then.

    Because of how the law works, when Trump said that the pizzagate-satanists are of national interest, the military were forced to begin a secret military investigation, that has been fighting occult billionaires ever since. Trump knew how to do this special move because he is a genius. And because it's a secret military investigation, they have to use secret military courts, where they get better results because there isn't any paperwork or standards of evidence.
    They'll eventually make the case solid enough to reach the so far untouchable FBI-mafia led by Mueller. They have to defeat the Clinton-family in the shadows, first.

    So now Mueller is part of the conspiracy? In the past he was always Team Trump and the witch hunt and Trump's unhinged reaction was a smokescreen and he was really arresting the satanists.

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    I really feel like this thread's OP is selling Q-Anon short.

    That madness seems to be still gaining steam and looking to be like legitimately important to understanding wtf is going on.

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  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist rugged, weathered Registered User regular
    Wired published an interesting story on the "Guerilla Skepticism on Wikipedia" group and how they try to maintain the integrity of Wikipedia: https://www.wired.com/story/guerrilla-wikipedia-editors-who-combat-conspiracy-theories/
    Over the past several years, companies like YouTube, Google, and Facebook have turned to Wikipedia to help fight the spread of misinformation and conspiracy theories on their own platforms. While the crowdsourced encyclopedia isn’t totally immune from being manipulated, it’s proven to be a largely reliable resource for accurate information. GSoW often debunks the same harmful conspiracy theories tech platforms struggle to combat, meaning it stands to play an important role in that battle.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Wired published an interesting story on the "Guerilla Skepticism on Wikipedia" group and how they try to maintain the integrity of Wikipedia: https://www.wired.com/story/guerrilla-wikipedia-editors-who-combat-conspiracy-theories/
    Over the past several years, companies like YouTube, Google, and Facebook have turned to Wikipedia to help fight the spread of misinformation and conspiracy theories on their own platforms. While the crowdsourced encyclopedia isn’t totally immune from being manipulated, it’s proven to be a largely reliable resource for accurate information. GSoW often debunks the same harmful conspiracy theories tech platforms struggle to combat, meaning it stands to play an important role in that battle.

    But isn't that just human moderation? That's been the fucking answer since day one dummies.

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  • Blackhawk1313Blackhawk1313 Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    One of my fathers friends suddenly started talking about "a special location on the internet" where a source called Q-Anon reports things every now and then.

    Because of how the law works, when Trump said that the pizzagate-satanists are of national interest, the military were forced to begin a secret military investigation, that has been fighting occult billionaires ever since. Trump knew how to do this special move because he is a genius. And because it's a secret military investigation, they have to use secret military courts, where they get better results because there isn't any paperwork or standards of evidence.
    They'll eventually make the case solid enough to reach the so far untouchable FBI-mafia led by Mueller. They have to defeat the Clinton-family in the shadows, first.

    New Metal Gear games really going off the rails

    Whenever your CT sounds like a Kojima fever dream, you know you are doing something right*

    I also would probably play this game.

    *wrong, from a life and sanity perspective

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    I saw the way the last thread ended, and I don't know if I can believe that Geth is able to parse that language properly. Which leads me to believe that Geth is a single mod account that all the mods have access to. They type their message in one browser, then use the Geth powers in the other.

    Prove me wrong.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    You are playing with darkness and flame...

    Wait, name checks out.

    Carry on.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    I saw the way the last thread ended, and I don't know if I can believe that Geth is able to parse that language properly. Which leads me to believe that Geth is a single mod account that all the mods have access to. They type their message in one browser, then use the Geth powers in the other.

    Prove me wrong.

    Only the first four words in the command used were necessary to parse it, so it's not that unreasonable.

    Now if you want a real conspiracy, I've seen evidence that the mods are creating secret posts that are invisible to real forum members. Clearly they must be using those posts to plot against us. I'll bet they're even doing it right now, while mocking us for being unable to see the truth of what's happening right in front of us.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    The flowering cactoid.

  • Edith UpwardsEdith Upwards Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    So, quick Deep State/Pizzagate/QAnon/Great Awakening timeline
    1. Bannon starts the "The Deep State" conspiracy theory, veiled fascism.
    2. Republicans take that as their reason for things to still be awful despite their running everything.
    3. Pizzagate happens when evangelicals on 4chan's politics board hear about "cheese pizza".
    4. Evangelicals, by inventing pizzagate, fully integrate Trumpism into their worldview
    5. The nazis attempt to explain imageboard culture to evangelicals, saying that it's stupid but everyone responsible for it is going to the ovens anyway, evangelicals don't understand.
    6. Chapo, Cum Town, Street Fight and other podcasts start making jokes about Pizzagate, creating an easily copied template for the mockery of Pizzagaters.
    7. Chuds reflexively adopt Pizzagate to own the libs. This, as well as the failure of Charlottesville and the rejection chuds face from society at large alienates chuds from the nazis.
    8. Dude "investigates" Comet Ping-Pong with a gun, fires three shots. Mockery expands.
    9. Chuds, finding imaginary satanists pedophiles easier to fight than the imaginary terror-cartel they've built up in their heads, begin genuinely believing in Pizzagate.
    10. Nazis get mad because the Evangelicals have taken control of the Chud-Americans.
    11. Q appears, makes multiple fakepoasts. People eat it up and it turns out to be eerily similar to the plot of an unreleased Steven Seagal novel.
    12. Conspiracy enters "Great Awakening" phase.
    13. Various militia-chuds and evangelicals make claims to have found proof of pedovore infestation, claim to have found inhuman skulls, interpret the word "predator" to mean pedovores.
    14. Their "proof" is on the level of the sports-tank top that the militia group said was proof of the terrorists coming over the southern border.
    15. Steven Seagal's book drops. It's about "shadow warriors" fighting "the deep state".
    16. Q fucks up royally and reveals himself multiple times.
    17. A new prophet, SerialBrain2, shows up to interpret Q. SB2 is much more coherent.
    18. Nazis suddenly get in line with Q/sb2 for some mysterious reason.
    19. Repeat "disinformation is necessary" to each other by means of explanation
    20. Pizzagaters stop thinking Mueller is on their side.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I didn't even know there was a schism between the chuds and Nazis!

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  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    Wired published an interesting story on the "Guerilla Skepticism on Wikipedia" group and how they try to maintain the integrity of Wikipedia: https://www.wired.com/story/guerrilla-wikipedia-editors-who-combat-conspiracy-theories/
    Over the past several years, companies like YouTube, Google, and Facebook have turned to Wikipedia to help fight the spread of misinformation and conspiracy theories on their own platforms. While the crowdsourced encyclopedia isn’t totally immune from being manipulated, it’s proven to be a largely reliable resource for accurate information. GSoW often debunks the same harmful conspiracy theories tech platforms struggle to combat, meaning it stands to play an important role in that battle.

    That's the same group that discovered someone was scrubbing "red headed Russian spy lady" wiki page, right?

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    I didn't even know there was a schism between the chuds and Nazis!

    Yeah, for a bunch of believers in totalitarian top down leadership there is a lot dissension in the ranks.

    Communicating from the last of the Babylon Stations.
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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    So, quick Deep State/Pizzagate/QAnon/Great Awakening timeline
    1. Bannon starts the "The Deep State" conspiracy theory, veiled fascism.
    2. Republicans take that as their reason for things to still be awful despite their running everything.
    3. Pizzagate happens when evangelicals on 4chan's politics board hear about "cheese pizza".
    4. Evangelicals, by inventing pizzagate, fully integrate Trumpism into their worldview
    5. The nazis attempt to explain imageboard culture to evangelicals, saying that it's stupid but everyone responsible for it is going to the ovens anyway,.
    6. Chapo, Cum Town, Street Fight and other podcasts start making jokes about Pizzagate, creating an easily copied template for the mockery of Pizzagaters.
    7. Chuds reflexively adopt Pizzagate to own the libs. This, as well as the failure of Charlottesville and the rejection chuds face from society at large alienates chuds from the nazis.
    8. Dude "investigates" Comet Ping-Pong with a gun, fires three shots. Mockery expands.
    9. Chuds, finding imaginary satanists pedophiles easier to fight than the imaginary terror-cartel they've built up in their heads, begin genuinely believing in Pizzagate.
    10. Nazis get mad because the Evangelicals have taken control of the Chud-Americans.
    11. Q appears, makes multiple fakepoasts. People eat it up and it turns out to be eerily similar to the plot of an unreleased Steven Seagal novel.
    12. Conspiracy enters "Great Awakening" phase.
    13. Various militia-chuds and evangelicals make claims to have found proof of pedovore infestation, claim to have found inhuman skulls, interpret the word "predator" to mean pedovores.
    14. Their "proof" is on the level of the sports-tank top that the militia group said was proof of the terrorists coming over the southern border.
    15. Steven Seagal's book drops. It's the .
    16. Q fucks up royally and reveals himself multiple times.
    17. A new prophet, SerialBrain2, shows up to interpret Q. SB2 is much more coherent.
    18. Nazis suddenly get in line with Q/sb2 for some mysterious reason.
    19. Repeat "disinformation is necessary" to each other by means of explanation
    20. Pizzagaters stop thinking Mueller is on their side.

    WTF is a chud in this context? Cause I'm assuming it's not a humanoid creature living underground that eats people.

    This is why we don't use nicknames.

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  • DunderDunder Registered User regular
    What’s a chud?

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    The more noxious maga fans. Originated with Matt Christman on Chapo Trap House.

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  • Edith UpwardsEdith Upwards Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    So, quick Deep State/Pizzagate/QAnon/Great Awakening timeline
    1. Bannon starts the "The Deep State" conspiracy theory, veiled fascism.
    2. Republicans take that as their reason for things to still be awful despite their running everything.
    3. Pizzagate happens when evangelicals on 4chan's politics board hear about "cheese pizza".
    4. Evangelicals, by inventing pizzagate, fully integrate Trumpism into their worldview
    5. The nazis attempt to explain imageboard culture to evangelicals, saying that it's stupid but everyone responsible for it is going to the ovens anyway,.
    6. Chapo, Cum Town, Street Fight and other podcasts start making jokes about Pizzagate, creating an easily copied template for the mockery of Pizzagaters.
    7. Chuds reflexively adopt Pizzagate to own the libs. This, as well as the failure of Charlottesville and the rejection chuds face from society at large alienates chuds from the nazis.
    8. Dude "investigates" Comet Ping-Pong with a gun, fires three shots. Mockery expands.
    9. Chuds, finding imaginary satanists pedophiles easier to fight than the imaginary terror-cartel they've built up in their heads, begin genuinely believing in Pizzagate.
    10. Nazis get mad because the Evangelicals have taken control of the Chud-Americans.
    11. Q appears, makes multiple fakepoasts. People eat it up and it turns out to be eerily similar to the plot of an unreleased Steven Seagal novel.
    12. Conspiracy enters "Great Awakening" phase.
    13. Various militia-chuds and evangelicals make claims to have found proof of pedovore infestation, claim to have found inhuman skulls, interpret the word "predator" to mean pedovores.
    14. Their "proof" is on the level of the sports-tank top that the militia group said was proof of the terrorists coming over the southern border.
    15. Steven Seagal's book drops. It's the .
    16. Q fucks up royally and reveals himself multiple times.
    17. A new prophet, SerialBrain2, shows up to interpret Q. SB2 is much more coherent.
    18. Nazis suddenly get in line with Q/sb2 for some mysterious reason.
    19. Repeat "disinformation is necessary" to each other by means of explanation
    20. Pizzagaters stop thinking Mueller is on their side.

    WTF is a chud in this context? Cause I'm assuming it's not a humanoid creature living underground that eats people.

    This is why we don't use nicknames.

    The "alt-lite", as they are called by "alt-rightists". Basically, the regular republican base and media personalities that cater to them, but aren't much different from the average movement conservative and not as willing to garb themselves in trappings of failed fascist movements.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    When it comes to false flags
    I went to lunch at work on day and to KFC where a man near the soda machine went on and on about them and how fascists were taking over and other crazy stuff.
    I found out about there was a lot more shooting so far this year than I thought because of him and a lot of people crying wolf over false flag ops. Giving really insane reasons why they happened

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    When it comes to false flags
    I went to lunch at work on day and to KFC where a man near the soda machine went on and on about them and how fascists were taking over and other crazy stuff.
    I found out about there was a lot more shooting so far this year than I thought because of him and a lot of people crying wolf over false flag ops. Giving really insane reasons why they happened

    I mean

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Vice did a report on the original conspiracy theory poster boy, David Icke. Fascinating stuff. I didn't know he was a tv presenter, it's tragic - from the footage it looks like he had a mental breakdown or something then went deeper and deeper into batshit territory while becoming a famous writer about lizard people/Illuminati.



    You know what gets me with "revelations" like this? That they don't seem to be collecting evidence to show the world or anyone to recruit (having such evidence would go a long way to getting anyone rational on side). Nor is he raising an army to protect humanity through force from these supposed threats, like a tv series like V did. Instead he's...doing lectures? Living in a nice house from the money from his books?

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    I really feel like this thread's OP is selling Q-Anon short.

    That madness seems to be still gaining steam and looking to be like legitimately important to understanding wtf is going on.

    The OP didn't do any of the examples justice, mostly on purpose. In Q's case it's really impossible to adequately put a bow on a brief synopsis because it has to expand geometrically every time Trump opens his mouth and vomits all over the idea that he's smart enough to mastermind anything like this.

  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    Dunder wrote: »
    What’s a chud?

    Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller.
    An awesome 80's movie with an equally awesome sequel
    An ugly person
    Dante Hicks

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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    This guy does a fairly deep dive on TimeCube and lays it out well

    Also new Conspiracy Thread means I gotta post da bes debunking video



    I love this video and apparently he took the original down for some reason, I tried to find it a couple months ago

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    I was legit hoping that Shorty was somehow mistaken and the world wasn't that fucked
  • TofystedethTofystedeth veni, veneri, vamoosi Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    One of my fathers friends suddenly started talking about "a special location on the internet" where a source called Q-Anon reports things every now and then.

    Because of how the law works, when Trump said that the pizzagate-satanists are of national interest, the military were forced to begin a secret military investigation, that has been fighting occult billionaires ever since. Trump knew how to do this special move because he is a genius. And because it's a secret military investigation, they have to use secret military courts, where they get better results because there isn't any paperwork or standards of evidence.
    They'll eventually make the case solid enough to reach the so far untouchable FBI-mafia led by Mueller. They have to defeat the Clinton-family in the shadows, first.

    I actually really like this bit. Like accidentally invoking an implacable bureaucracy to fight the occult is a very Laundry Files sort of thing.

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