Not really thread relevant but I have a question for cis dudes. When you pee in a toilet, as opposed to a urinal, do you flush it?
Here's the nasty secret about folks not flushing urinals or toilets in public bathrooms: It's because they don't want to get their hands dirty... but that would be irrelevant if they were planning on washing their hands afterwards anyway.
Not really thread relevant but I have a question for cis dudes. When you pee in a toilet, as opposed to a urinal, do you flush it?
Here's the nasty secret about folks not flushing urinals or toilets in public bathrooms: It's because they don't want to get their hands dirty... but that would be irrelevant if they were planning on washing their hands afterwards anyway.
Or like my brother who for years was convinced it would save on water expenses
Like it did a minuscule amount but the increase in necessary cleaning more than made up for that
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My dad was very adamant about not flushing to save water, which led to conflicts with roommates later.
Well there was 6 of us in my home so odds were on a given day there'd be at least 20 bathroom trips
It made more sense. Now its more of a bad habit yeah
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I'm actually interested to know if this is a point of contention
There are places in the US where, due to water shortages, “If it’s brown flush it down if it’s yellow let it mellow.”
This was the rule in my house because my parents' house handled sewage with a septic tank up until a few years ago, and if you flush every time you pee you can overwhelm the tank really easy and buddy that is a bad day.
Apparently my mother in law has decided her son's coworker being fluid (to the point of identifying differently on different days) is too complicated so "it's an 'it'" and after correcting her twice she insisted no it's an it so I guess that's one less person I have to deal with.
It's like lady I just told you the story of how I haven't spoken to my parents basically all year you really think you're special?
Hang in there Tox
Sounds like you're really good at setting boundaries with hurtful people
I hope you have other loved ones to share holidays with who respect your choices and support you well **
How is somebody being genderfluid complicated?
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The discussion of men flushing/not flushing is eye-opening to me - who knew it's such a complex issue : 0
I guess it was one of those things where this person (literally just some person her son works with, who basically was brought up by her just so she could complain) prefers they/them pronouns usually but will sometimes present and/or identify specifically using male or female pronouns.
And like yeah fine if you wanna say that's complicated I can at least get the logic there. Like it's not actually complicated but I can understand why she would think it is (ever notice how people just refuse to refer to people by name and instead insist on using pronouns for everyone and then act surprised when you can't follow their storytelling? That's my MiL).
But that doesn't mean you default to "it" you heartless fuck.
I do want to clarify that I'm not trying to say/imply that gender or moreso figuring out one's one gender isn't complicated. Self exploration and self discovery are going to be personal experiences that will vary a lot from person to person and everyone's experiences are valid.
But respecting someone's journey, discovery, or self-understanding isn't complicated. Or at the least it shouldn't be
I'm actually interested to know if this is a point of contention
There are places in the US where, due to water shortages, “If it’s brown flush it down if it’s yellow let it mellow.”
There's also the thing where it seems American toilets fill the bowl WAY up with water, so if you piss an average amount it's going into like two gallons of water and can thus just sit in the bowl reasonably inoffensively in its heavily diluted state. Whereas Australian toilets only have a little bit of water in the bottom of the bowl where the S-bend is, maybe a quarter of what American toilets have? So if you drain the main vein and then don't flush, it's not particularly dilute sitting there being all stinky and yellow.
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I'm actually interested to know if this is a point of contention
There are places in the US where, due to water shortages, “If it’s brown flush it down if it’s yellow let it mellow.”
There's also the thing where it seems American toilets fill the bowl WAY up with water, so if you piss an average amount it's going into like two gallons of water and can thus just sit in the bowl reasonably inoffensively in its heavily diluted state. Whereas Australian toilets only have a little bit of water in the bottom of the bowl where the S-bend is, maybe a quarter of what American toilets have? So if you drain the main vein and then don't flush, it's not particularly dilute sitting there being all stinky and yellow.
There aren’t a ton of regulations on toilet capacities here so yeah they end up using a lot of water, but you can manually adjust it IIRC
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I'm actually interested to know if this is a point of contention
There are places in the US where, due to water shortages, “If it’s brown flush it down if it’s yellow let it mellow.”
There's also the thing where it seems American toilets fill the bowl WAY up with water, so if you piss an average amount it's going into like two gallons of water and can thus just sit in the bowl reasonably inoffensively in its heavily diluted state. Whereas Australian toilets only have a little bit of water in the bottom of the bowl where the S-bend is, maybe a quarter of what American toilets have? So if you drain the main vein and then don't flush, it's not particularly dilute sitting there being all stinky and yellow.
I'd be pretty surprised if your toilets are using less water than the ones in my house are.
That said, some of the toilets in public restrooms can be fairly obscene in how much water they use.
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I'm actually interested to know if this is a point of contention
There are places in the US where, due to water shortages, “If it’s brown flush it down if it’s yellow let it mellow.”
There's also the thing where it seems American toilets fill the bowl WAY up with water, so if you piss an average amount it's going into like two gallons of water and can thus just sit in the bowl reasonably inoffensively in its heavily diluted state. Whereas Australian toilets only have a little bit of water in the bottom of the bowl where the S-bend is, maybe a quarter of what American toilets have? So if you drain the main vein and then don't flush, it's not particularly dilute sitting there being all stinky and yellow.
I'd be pretty surprised if your toilets are using less water than the ones in my house are.
That said, some of the toilets in public restrooms can be fairly obscene in how much water they use.
Oh I don't mean they flush more total volume, everywhere has water saving cisterns these days, yeah?
I mean there's fuck-all water in the bottom of an Aussie toilet bowl, and I've read comments on these very forums of people claiming if they sit down their dick touches the water. Which, in every Australian toilet I've ever seen, would mean they're rocking AT LEAST an imperial foot of flaccid penis, if not a few inches more.
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I'm actually interested to know if this is a point of contention
There are places in the US where, due to water shortages, “If it’s brown flush it down if it’s yellow let it mellow.”
There's also the thing where it seems American toilets fill the bowl WAY up with water, so if you piss an average amount it's going into like two gallons of water and can thus just sit in the bowl reasonably inoffensively in its heavily diluted state. Whereas Australian toilets only have a little bit of water in the bottom of the bowl where the S-bend is, maybe a quarter of what American toilets have? So if you drain the main vein and then don't flush, it's not particularly dilute sitting there being all stinky and yellow.
I'd be pretty surprised if your toilets are using less water than the ones in my house are.
That said, some of the toilets in public restrooms can be fairly obscene in how much water they use.
Oh I don't mean they flush more total volume, everywhere has water saving cisterns these days, yeah?
I mean there's fuck-all water in the bottom of an Aussie toilet bowl, and I've read comments on these very forums of people claiming if they sit down their dick touches the water. Which, in every Australian toilet I've ever seen, would mean they're rocking AT LEAST an imperial foot of flaccid penis, if not a few inches more.
Oy, Puppyfucker. I'm also referring to water in the bottom of the bowl. That was pretty clear from your prior post, and that's what I replied to.
I reiterate my previous post. Thank you, and goodnight.
the landlords at my previous place had placed a jar full of water in the cistern so that it used less water when it flushed
i mean, they'd done it themselves when they lived there as an environmental thing, so it wasn't just like they just wanted to deny water to their tenants or whatever, but it was still kinda weird
That does sound totally heartless @Tox to refuse to say they/them for a genderfluid person and only say "it" : (
Sorry you've had to hear such hurtful stuff from a family member. I hope you'll have nice peaceful holidays without them
I like your advice to just use the person's name if unsure of the right pronoun to use - how hard is that?
Of course, totally agree with you that identity exploration is complex... but not an excuse for not respecting people's pronouns
You made me laugh so hard @Gundi and @RedTide - especially @RedTide as a proud parent : )
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I'm actually interested to know if this is a point of contention
There are places in the US where, due to water shortages, “If it’s brown flush it down if it’s yellow let it mellow.”
There's also the thing where it seems American toilets fill the bowl WAY up with water, so if you piss an average amount it's going into like two gallons of water and can thus just sit in the bowl reasonably inoffensively in its heavily diluted state. Whereas Australian toilets only have a little bit of water in the bottom of the bowl where the S-bend is, maybe a quarter of what American toilets have? So if you drain the main vein and then don't flush, it's not particularly dilute sitting there being all stinky and yellow.
I'd be pretty surprised if your toilets are using less water than the ones in my house are.
That said, some of the toilets in public restrooms can be fairly obscene in how much water they use.
Oh I don't mean they flush more total volume, everywhere has water saving cisterns these days, yeah?
I mean there's fuck-all water in the bottom of an Aussie toilet bowl, and I've read comments on these very forums of people claiming if they sit down their dick touches the water. Which, in every Australian toilet I've ever seen, would mean they're rocking AT LEAST an imperial foot of flaccid penis, if not a few inches more.
Oy, Puppyfucker. I'm also referring to water in the bottom of the bowl. That was pretty clear from your prior post, and that's what I replied to.
I reiterate my previous post. Thank you, and goodnight.
Seems a bit harsh to call them "puppyfucker" over a mild argu--oh.
The low water level of Australian toilets is superior to the high water of American ones, because the shape of the bowl makes your farts sound really loud.
One of my roommates doesn't flush when he pees, and the rest of us fucking hate it. But he's also planning to move in January, and every time he opens his bedroom door we can hear podcasts about QAnon, so I've decided to just wait it out instead of risk having a conversation with him.
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Hi friends,
I want to share with you that I am trans, my pronouns are he/they and my name is Elliot. I feel lucky to be writing this. To be here. To have arrived at this place in my life.
I feel overwhelming gratitude for the incredible people who have supported me along this journey. I can't begin to express how remarkable it feels to finally love who I am enough to pursue my authentic self. I've been endlessly inspired by so many in the trans community. Thank you for your courage, your generosity and ceaselessly working to make this world a more inclusive and compassionate place. I will offer whatever support I can and continue to strive for a more loving and equal society.
I also ask for patience. My joy is real, but it is also fragile. The truth is, despite feeling profoundly happy right now and knowing how much privilege I carry, I am also scared. I'm scared of the invasiveness, the hate, the "jokes" and of violence. To be clear, I am not trying to dampen a moment that is joyous and one that I celebrate, but I want to address the full picture. The statistics are staggering. The discrimination towards trans people is rife, insidious and cruel, resulting in horrific consequences. In 2020 alone it has been reported that at least 40 transgender people have been murdered, the majority of which were Black and Latinx trans women. To the political leaders who work to criminalize trans health care and deny our right to exist and to all of those with a massive platform who continue to spew hostility towards the trans community: you have blood on your hands. You unleash a fury of vile and demeaning rage that lands on the shoulders of the trans community, a community in which 40% of trans adults report attempting suicide. Enough is enough. You aren't being "cancelled," you are hurting people. I am one of those people and we won't be silent in the face of your attacks.
I love that I am trans. And I love that I am queer. And the more I hold myself close and fully embrace who I am, the more I dream, the more my heart grows and the more I thrive. To all trans people who deal with harassment, self-loathing, abuse and the threat of violence every day: I see you, I love you and I will do everything I can to change this world for the better.
Sincerely: it is awesome that he can come out and be publicly visible and use his platform for good.
Less seriously: Juno rewatches will be very, very awkward.
I was trying to confirm it was the actor I thought it was with a friend and realized I don't quite know how to handle this respectfully. "I think he was in Juno yeah? He played..." then a grinding sound in my brain. On first pass it seems referring to the role as separate from the actor would be safe, but it's not something I have any experience with. I suspect this has been worked out but he is the first actor I am fond of to come out in this way so I haven't really followed.
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Here's the nasty secret about folks not flushing urinals or toilets in public bathrooms: It's because they don't want to get their hands dirty... but that would be irrelevant if they were planning on washing their hands afterwards anyway.
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Or like my brother who for years was convinced it would save on water expenses
Like it did a minuscule amount but the increase in necessary cleaning more than made up for that
Yes, always.
Yep
My toilet has a smaller flush option for peeing
In public? Usually theres an auto flush
At home I usually dont to save water
I also always put the seat down because dammit it takes literally a second
Always put the seat down before flushing.
There are places in the US where, due to water shortages, “If it’s brown flush it down if it’s yellow let it mellow.”
Well there was 6 of us in my home so odds were on a given day there'd be at least 20 bathroom trips
It made more sense. Now its more of a bad habit yeah
This was the rule in my house because my parents' house handled sewage with a septic tank up until a few years ago, and if you flush every time you pee you can overwhelm the tank really easy and buddy that is a bad day.
It's like lady I just told you the story of how I haven't spoken to my parents basically all year you really think you're special?
Anyway that's how my holiday is going
Sounds like you're really good at setting boundaries with hurtful people
I hope you have other loved ones to share holidays with who respect your choices and support you well **
How is somebody being genderfluid complicated?
Bs : /
The discussion of men flushing/not flushing is eye-opening to me - who knew it's such a complex issue : 0
I guess it was one of those things where this person (literally just some person her son works with, who basically was brought up by her just so she could complain) prefers they/them pronouns usually but will sometimes present and/or identify specifically using male or female pronouns.
And like yeah fine if you wanna say that's complicated I can at least get the logic there. Like it's not actually complicated but I can understand why she would think it is (ever notice how people just refuse to refer to people by name and instead insist on using pronouns for everyone and then act surprised when you can't follow their storytelling? That's my MiL).
But that doesn't mean you default to "it" you heartless fuck.
But respecting someone's journey, discovery, or self-understanding isn't complicated. Or at the least it shouldn't be
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herculean long poos
My 3 year old took a bigger shit yesterday then I've ever taken in my life.
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There's also the thing where it seems American toilets fill the bowl WAY up with water, so if you piss an average amount it's going into like two gallons of water and can thus just sit in the bowl reasonably inoffensively in its heavily diluted state. Whereas Australian toilets only have a little bit of water in the bottom of the bowl where the S-bend is, maybe a quarter of what American toilets have? So if you drain the main vein and then don't flush, it's not particularly dilute sitting there being all stinky and yellow.
There aren’t a ton of regulations on toilet capacities here so yeah they end up using a lot of water, but you can manually adjust it IIRC
I'd be pretty surprised if your toilets are using less water than the ones in my house are.
That said, some of the toilets in public restrooms can be fairly obscene in how much water they use.
Oh I don't mean they flush more total volume, everywhere has water saving cisterns these days, yeah?
I mean there's fuck-all water in the bottom of an Aussie toilet bowl, and I've read comments on these very forums of people claiming if they sit down their dick touches the water. Which, in every Australian toilet I've ever seen, would mean they're rocking AT LEAST an imperial foot of flaccid penis, if not a few inches more.
Oy, Puppyfucker. I'm also referring to water in the bottom of the bowl. That was pretty clear from your prior post, and that's what I replied to.
I reiterate my previous post. Thank you, and goodnight.
they just seemed super filled up and i just don't understand how it gets to that
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i mean, they'd done it themselves when they lived there as an environmental thing, so it wasn't just like they just wanted to deny water to their tenants or whatever, but it was still kinda weird
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Sorry you've had to hear such hurtful stuff from a family member. I hope you'll have nice peaceful holidays without them
I like your advice to just use the person's name if unsure of the right pronoun to use - how hard is that?
Of course, totally agree with you that identity exploration is complex... but not an excuse for not respecting people's pronouns
You made me laugh so hard @Gundi and @RedTide - especially @RedTide as a proud parent : )
Seems a bit harsh to call them "puppyfucker" over a mild argu--oh.
I'll have you know it's pronounced papi-fu-kair
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congrats!
Hi friends,
I want to share with you that I am trans, my pronouns are he/they and my name is Elliot. I feel lucky to be writing this. To be here. To have arrived at this place in my life.
I feel overwhelming gratitude for the incredible people who have supported me along this journey. I can't begin to express how remarkable it feels to finally love who I am enough to pursue my authentic self. I've been endlessly inspired by so many in the trans community. Thank you for your courage, your generosity and ceaselessly working to make this world a more inclusive and compassionate place. I will offer whatever support I can and continue to strive for a more loving and equal society.
I also ask for patience. My joy is real, but it is also fragile. The truth is, despite feeling profoundly happy right now and knowing how much privilege I carry, I am also scared. I'm scared of the invasiveness, the hate, the "jokes" and of violence. To be clear, I am not trying to dampen a moment that is joyous and one that I celebrate, but I want to address the full picture. The statistics are staggering. The discrimination towards trans people is rife, insidious and cruel, resulting in horrific consequences. In 2020 alone it has been reported that at least 40 transgender people have been murdered, the majority of which were Black and Latinx trans women. To the political leaders who work to criminalize trans health care and deny our right to exist and to all of those with a massive platform who continue to spew hostility towards the trans community: you have blood on your hands. You unleash a fury of vile and demeaning rage that lands on the shoulders of the trans community, a community in which 40% of trans adults report attempting suicide. Enough is enough. You aren't being "cancelled," you are hurting people. I am one of those people and we won't be silent in the face of your attacks.
I love that I am trans. And I love that I am queer. And the more I hold myself close and fully embrace who I am, the more I dream, the more my heart grows and the more I thrive. To all trans people who deal with harassment, self-loathing, abuse and the threat of violence every day: I see you, I love you and I will do everything I can to change this world for the better.
Thank you for reading this.
All my love, Elliot
Less seriously: Juno rewatches will be very, very awkward.
I was trying to confirm it was the actor I thought it was with a friend and realized I don't quite know how to handle this respectfully. "I think he was in Juno yeah? He played..." then a grinding sound in my brain. On first pass it seems referring to the role as separate from the actor would be safe, but it's not something I have any experience with. I suspect this has been worked out but he is the first actor I am fond of to come out in this way so I haven't really followed.