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[Magic The Gathering Arena] Fires of Treachery banned!

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    hiraethhiraeth SpaceRegistered User regular
    Bo3 is definitely better than bo1's if you can afford it. What you picked during draft is probably more important than how you made your decklist, I like to record myself drafting to see what how I could have drafted better.

    2-3 isn't bad magic is pretty random. That said, chain to memory, sleep of the dead, callaphe, and omen of the hunt aren't great cards imo, and relentless pursuit is basically a green divination you've got 29 targets.

    I like to watch ben stark on twitch he goes into a lot of depth for drafting and playing limited.

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    MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    I've tried to watch Ben a couple times but he literally never stops talking, so I can't absorb it.

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    hiraethhiraeth SpaceRegistered User regular
    Hehe he does talk a lot, he has so much information to give!

    I've heard him talk highly of deathsie and legenvd also, I've only watched a little of legenvd he seems ok, a bit slower, I'm not a fan of twitch streamers tbh so I don't know how good they are.

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    jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    Best of 3 is a much better game, but it's such a commitment, time-wise.

    I end up almost exclusively playing Bo1 just for convenience.

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    FiskebentFiskebent DenmarkRegistered User regular
    I want to save my weekly XP quests until the new battlepass hits but still do my daily quest, so I made a black deck with 1 and 2 drops with some deathtouch and 4 Knights of the Legion. Just so I could make the game last a while and cast some black spells for my quest.

    First game I go against a white lifelink deck and my heap of garbage actually wins me the game... :)

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    YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    edited April 2020
    Iirc when the battlepass rolls over they reset your weeklies.

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    FiskebentFiskebent DenmarkRegistered User regular
    Ah, nice. That's good to know. Thanks.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular


    So apparently, if you control certain permanents, Altar of the Pantheon has extra text? Certainly came in handy a couple of times, not just with Heliod (rude) but also Renata.

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    DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    First 5-0
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    So, from having 500 and some odd change in gems, Cube let me get enough gems to buy the Theros mastery, and am 1700 gems on my way to Ikoria mastery.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited April 2020
    Non-bot drafts go live this week with Ikoria!

    Details and more in the State of the Game.

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    silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Docshifty wrote: »
    First 5-0
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    So, from having 500 and some odd change in gems, Cube let me get enough gems to buy the Theros mastery, and am 1700 gems on my way to Ikoria mastery.

    I'm sorry, I'm new to Arena, but isn't the reward for winning Cube Sealed just your entry fee back?

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Docshifty wrote: »
    First 5-0
    uw7CTG5.jpg

    So, from having 500 and some odd change in gems, Cube let me get enough gems to buy the Theros mastery, and am 1700 gems on my way to Ikoria mastery.

    I'm sorry, I'm new to Arena, but isn't the reward for winning Cube Sealed just your entry fee back?

    It is but you also get cards.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Docshifty wrote: »
    First 5-0
    uw7CTG5.jpg

    So, from having 500 and some odd change in gems, Cube let me get enough gems to buy the Theros mastery, and am 1700 gems on my way to Ikoria mastery.

    I'm sorry, I'm new to Arena, but isn't the reward for winning Cube Sealed just your entry fee back?

    It is but you also get cards.

    I thought it was a Phantom event?

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Docshifty wrote: »
    First 5-0
    uw7CTG5.jpg

    So, from having 500 and some odd change in gems, Cube let me get enough gems to buy the Theros mastery, and am 1700 gems on my way to Ikoria mastery.

    I'm sorry, I'm new to Arena, but isn't the reward for winning Cube Sealed just your entry fee back?

    It is but you also get cards.

    I thought it was a Phantom event?

    You get 3 cards for playing and their rarity is based on your wins IIRC

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    Docshifty wrote: »
    First 5-0
    uw7CTG5.jpg

    So, from having 500 and some odd change in gems, Cube let me get enough gems to buy the Theros mastery, and am 1700 gems on my way to Ikoria mastery.

    I'm sorry, I'm new to Arena, but isn't the reward for winning Cube Sealed just your entry fee back?

    I used it to turn gold in to gems

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    silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Docshifty wrote: »
    Docshifty wrote: »
    First 5-0
    uw7CTG5.jpg

    So, from having 500 and some odd change in gems, Cube let me get enough gems to buy the Theros mastery, and am 1700 gems on my way to Ikoria mastery.

    I'm sorry, I'm new to Arena, but isn't the reward for winning Cube Sealed just your entry fee back?

    I used it to turn gold in to gems

    Oh, I see now. Thanks.

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    chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    I swear the shuffler is sentient.

    And a motherfucker.

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    I swear the shuffler is sentient.

    And a motherfucker.

    When i topdeck the perfect card 3 turns in a row: All is normal

    When i draw 3 lands in a row: This is proof that there is an evil gremlin living in my deck whose sole motivation in life is ruining my games and this happens every single time i play this game.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I swear the shuffler is sentient.

    And a motherfucker.

    When i topdeck the perfect card 3 turns in a row: All is normal

    When i draw 3 lands in a row: This is proof that there is an evil gremlin living in my deck whose sole motivation in life is ruining my games and this happens every single time i play this game.

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    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    After looking over Ikoria spoilers more, I am now ready to roll my eyeballs out of my head the first time I get murdered by a hexproof creature that has been turned into mega-Voltron with some unholy combination of mutates.

    Also I need to get to work on assembling my team of vigilant superfriends. After my team of legendary human superfriends. And a deck to make this companion thing work. And...

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    There aren't a lot of worthwhile hexproof creatures to mutate - at least, Dream Trawler doesn't need a mutation to kill you, and Spellbreaker only has it half the time. I could see potentially mutating a Paradise Druid with something that has vigilance, but that's already happening in Aura decks with Sentinel's Eyes.

    Plus at least now every deck can just pack a Shadowspear.

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    Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited April 2020
    I swear the shuffler is sentient.

    And a motherfucker.

    When i topdeck the perfect card 3 turns in a row: All is normal

    When i draw 3 lands in a row: This is proof that there is an evil gremlin living in my deck whose sole motivation in life is ruining my games and this happens every single time i play this game.

    Best feeling in the game for me is running up against a mill deck that during the mid game pulls a flood of consecutive lands out of my deck and puts them into the graveyard. "Why thank you sir."

    At least there's plenty of card options to peek and at least try to get some control of what's incoming.

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    KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2020
    KalTorak wrote: »
    There aren't a lot of worthwhile hexproof creatures to mutate - at least, Dream Trawler doesn't need a mutation to kill you, and Spellbreaker only has it half the time. I could see potentially mutating a Paradise Druid with something that has vigilance, but that's already happening in Aura decks with Sentinel's Eyes.

    Plus at least now every deck can just pack a Shadowspear.

    Well, yeah, I was very much thinking of the Paradise Druid aura decks. Or the hexproof merfolk token decks that were all over the recent historic pauper event. There are plenty of people who love their buffed hexproof creatures, and there will certainly be plenty trying it with mutate in coming weeks.

    edit: I should note that I spend more time in Play than in Ranked lately, as the high-end Ranked meta is incredibly uninteresting to me right now.

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    BSoBBSoB Registered User regular
    edited April 2020
    Stonecoil serpent isn't hex proof, but it is Teferi proof. And you can cast it for whatever you want, and it keeps the counters when you mutate it.

    Something to chew on.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    BSoB wrote: »
    Stonecoil serpent isn't hex proof, but it is Teferi proof. And you can cast it for whatever you want, and it keeps the counters when you mutate it.

    Something to chew on.

    Yeah but you can't mutate any multicolored creature since the ability targets. No Stonecoil Snapdax.

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    hiraethhiraeth SpaceRegistered User regular
    So with Ikoria drafting with other players is coming

    There's a lot of info there, but the long and short of it is there will be 3 draft modes with bo3 now having a gold entry option

    bo1 with bots same as always for 5k gold
    bo1 with players for 1500gems/10k gold
    bo3 with players for 1500gems/10k gold but now only 3 matches

    so the downside is more expensive entry costs, but much larger prize pools for player drafts

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    ironheadironhead Registered User regular
    So what's everybody theory crafting for the upcoming Ikoria standard? I'm thinking I'm going to try running a Golgari Beatdown brew.

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    silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Where do people go for Limited Set Reviews these days? I notice LSV's are pay-walled now.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Where do people go for Limited Set Reviews these days? I notice LSV's are pay-walled now.

    I'll just listen to Limited Resources at this point. Which I already did but now I don't have a reason to look elsewhere.

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    Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    Well I ended up picking up that $50 preorder. the Godzilla special art was just too damn sexy. Never thought I'd ever spend this kind of cash on a card game.

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    ironheadironhead Registered User regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Well I ended up picking up that $50 preorder. the Godzilla special art was just too damn sexy. Never thought I'd ever spend this kind of cash on a card game.

    Just be glad you're not playing the paper version. $50 won't cover the mana base for some a lot of standard decks.

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    MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Drafting with players and then playing against those from other pods seems like the best you could do for an online client without requiring people to stay in the event for all the playthroughs.

    I don't know why it still bothers me but playing against someone else's draft deck knowing they had different packs is just... odd.

    At least playing against people will help fix the weird bot picks that were happening (i.e. top tier removal still there after pick 7)

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    ElbasunuElbasunu Registered User regular
    as a limited player, i'm super bummed the one 'zilla card is linked to the packs pre-order.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Elbasunu wrote: »
    as a limited player, i'm super bummed the one 'zilla card is linked to the packs pre-order.

    that particular card you can craft

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    ElbasunuElbasunu Registered User regular
    Elbasunu wrote: »
    as a limited player, i'm super bummed the one 'zilla card is linked to the packs pre-order.

    that particular card you can craft

    I thought there was one godzilla card that was only obtainable via pre-orders? I'll take a look when it hits i guess. Thanks!

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Elbasunu wrote: »
    Elbasunu wrote: »
    as a limited player, i'm super bummed the one 'zilla card is linked to the packs pre-order.

    that particular card you can craft

    I thought there was one godzilla card that was only obtainable via pre-orders? I'll take a look when it hits i guess. Thanks!

    The RG Godzilla is the buy-a-box promo and AFAIK only exists as the Godzilla version despite having a "real" name*. In Arena you can craft BAB promos for a mythic WC.

    *One day they're gonna reprint this thing in a Commander deck and people are gonna be confused.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Elbasunu wrote: »
    Elbasunu wrote: »
    as a limited player, i'm super bummed the one 'zilla card is linked to the packs pre-order.

    that particular card you can craft

    I thought there was one godzilla card that was only obtainable via pre-orders? I'll take a look when it hits i guess. Thanks!

    The RG Godzilla is the buy-a-box promo and AFAIK only exists as the Godzilla version despite having a "real" name*. In Arena you can craft BAB promos for a mythic WC.

    *One day they're gonna reprint this thing in a Commander deck and people are gonna be confused.

    If they reprint it it's going to be as its normal monster name and not Godzilla version.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Elbasunu wrote: »
    Elbasunu wrote: »
    as a limited player, i'm super bummed the one 'zilla card is linked to the packs pre-order.

    that particular card you can craft

    I thought there was one godzilla card that was only obtainable via pre-orders? I'll take a look when it hits i guess. Thanks!

    The RG Godzilla is the buy-a-box promo and AFAIK only exists as the Godzilla version despite having a "real" name*. In Arena you can craft BAB promos for a mythic WC.

    *One day they're gonna reprint this thing in a Commander deck and people are gonna be confused.

    If they reprint it it's going to be as its normal monster name and not Godzilla version.

    That's what I meant.

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    Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    I wish there was a "I'm sorry you had a terrible opener and even worse draws and barely got to play any cards before losing" emote. I legit feel bad winning some of those games, especially when I'm running some jank deck.

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    DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Question:

    Anyone have any idea what the hell is up with gates decks still in the Play queue?

    Like I don't think I've ever had a day of playing normal Play queue without running into jank ass gates decks.

    It's real weird.

    I also wish I knew if my opponent just did this move for the memes or if they did not realize what was about to happen.

    I had 7 little dudes out. 1 of which was a Teysa and 2 of which were Cruel Celebrants. And they cast Tamiyo then searched for gates ablaze.

    And well... I mean they hit their gates ablaze alright but...

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