Cyberpunk 2077 devs are LARPing as wageslaves for evil cyberpunk corp (delayed til Dec)

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  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I hope you see a horse just standing on top of a high rise just once.

    there should be a 1 in 1000 chance when you summon your car that it ends up somewhere ridiculous

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  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    Mr Ray wrote: »
    ED! wrote: »
    That's not bad actually..

    For game development?! It can't be that low. Unless the cost of living in Poland is a lot less than the US.

    EDIT: Google says polish CoL is VERY much lower than the US. Wow. I wonder how polish food is.

    Fuckin' delicious

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    All of this crunch talk has taken me from a "must buy this day one, maybe I'll even pre-order" to "... maybe I'll give it a week or so to see if it sucks". For the mostly selfish reason that if they really did only start development in earnest last year and have been crunching the whole time there's no way on earth that this is going to be a smooth release. I generally only pre-order these days if the developer is a known quantity.

    I'm at the point of thinking about waiting until at least the first DLC gets released, no joke. I waited until like 2017 to play Witcher 3, and by that point all the gnarlier bugs and crap had been ironed out, and what wasn't ironed out had fan patches.
    ED! wrote: »
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Man, its going to be hard choosing between gorilla arms and mantis blades.

    I'm not going stealth and I love using brute force to rip things open but those damn mantis blades..

    so cool.

    I'm going to have to try and not make a stealth characters. . .it is what I usually go to in games like this when it is an option. Hopefully there is a "magic" equivalent in this game along with the melee and stealthy options.

    That's gonna be "hacker," which will be a lot more dynamic than just "tee hee I get the plot coupon by standing in front of a console," from what I've heard/seen. In a lot of games in the genre, hacking can let you do things like hack *other people's cybernetics*, hack their cars, their guns, any robots that happen to be around, stuff in the environment (hack a car to run into the guy!), so yeah.

    The other option will probably be "Gun wizard" as in the spells you cast are "bullet" and "additional bullet" and, sometimes, "rocket launcher."

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    Cyberpunk Bluesmobile is looking very tempting.

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  • IncindiumIncindium Registered User regular
    Cyberpunk Bluesmobile is looking very tempting.

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  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Mr Ray wrote: »
    ED! wrote: »
    That's not bad actually..

    For game development?! It can't be that low. Unless the cost of living in Poland is a lot less than the US.

    EDIT: Google says polish CoL is VERY much lower than the US. Wow. I wonder how polish food is.

    Fuckin' delicious

    [ObiWan] A lime? Now that's a color I've not seen in a very long time... [/ObiWan]

    All of this crunch talk has taken me from a "must buy this day one, maybe I'll even pre-order" to "... maybe I'll give it a week or so to see if it sucks". For the mostly selfish reason that if they really did only start development in earnest last year and have been crunching the whole time there's no way on earth that this is going to be a smooth release. I generally only pre-order these days if the developer is a known quantity.

    I'm at the point of thinking about waiting until at least the first DLC gets released, no joke. I waited until like 2017 to play Witcher 3, and by that point all the gnarlier bugs and crap had been ironed out, and what wasn't ironed out had fan patches.
    ED! wrote: »
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Man, its going to be hard choosing between gorilla arms and mantis blades.

    I'm not going stealth and I love using brute force to rip things open but those damn mantis blades..

    so cool.

    I'm going to have to try and not make a stealth characters. . .it is what I usually go to in games like this when it is an option. Hopefully there is a "magic" equivalent in this game along with the melee and stealthy options.

    That's gonna be "hacker," which will be a lot more dynamic than just "tee hee I get the plot coupon by standing in front of a console," from what I've heard/seen. In a lot of games in the genre, hacking can let you do things like hack *other people's cybernetics*, hack their cars, their guns, any robots that happen to be around, stuff in the environment (hack a car to run into the guy!), so yeah.

    The other option will probably be "Gun wizard" as in the spells you cast are "bullet" and "additional bullet" and, sometimes, "rocket launcher."

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  • FleebFleeb has all of the fleeb juice Registered User regular
    :D

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited October 16
    Fleeb wrote: »
    :D

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    Fleeb wrote: »
    :D

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx Panem, circenses, credulous descent. A Gadarene charge into endarkenment Registered User regular
    edited October 16
    I want to do a solo run, I've decided

    Handguns, full-on corpo style, fast

    Basically Joker from Persona in a waistcoat

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  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    God, MILFGAARD is a great name for a porn mag.

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    I want to do a solo run, I've decided

    Handguns, full-on corpo style, fast

    Basically Joker from Persona in a waistcoat

    Excuse me, Joker would never be a corpo.

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    I want to do a solo run, I've decided

    Handguns, full-on corpo style, fast

    Basically Joker from Persona in a waistcoat

    Excuse me, Joker would never be a corpo.

    He grows up, his skillset fetches a fortune in the upper tiers of society, he sells out

    Everyones got a price

    Make. Time.
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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    I want to do a solo run, I've decided

    Handguns, full-on corpo style, fast

    Basically Joker from Persona in a waistcoat

    Excuse me, Joker would never be a corpo.

    He grows up, his skillset fetches a fortune in the upper tiers of society, he sells out

    Everyones got a price

    Oh...

    Oh no...

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    I want to do a solo run, I've decided

    Handguns, full-on corpo style, fast

    Basically Joker from Persona in a waistcoat

    I like Lara Croft mode as well, though my first choice is always a sniper/long range if it's offered.

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Man, its going to be hard choosing between gorilla arms and mantis blades.

    I'm not going stealth and I love using brute force to rip things open but those damn mantis blades..

    so cool.

    Gorilla arms just so I can use BORG handguns.

    That's just the coolest thing to me. Handguns so strong you need upgraded arms to handle?

    Hell yes.
    You know you're packing heat when you need an arm made of steel to avoid breaking it like a twig when you fire.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    I better be able to have gorilla and rockit at the same time or I'm gonna have an existential crisis.
    Sadly, I believe you can only have one arm aug at a time.

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited October 16
    Still going through the 2077 lore book but curious what the average lifespan is with this kind of tech.

    I believe the head of Arasaka is like 160-180 and still walking around.

    Also bio augs are a thing apparently in the 2077 world but pretty rare at the moment.

    *spits on ground angrily*

    Keep that weak stuff out of my dystopian futures. Ride chrome or die, choomba.


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  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    We already got bio augs.

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    We already got bio augs.
    Where?!

    I'll kill em!

  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    edited October 16
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    We already got bio augs.
    Where?!

    I'll kill em!

    Plastic Surgery.

    edit: I actually looked up the word out of curiosity after making this joke and there is a real but boring real life term

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioaugmentation

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    We already got bio augs.
    Where?!

    I'll kill em!

    Plastic Surgery.
    Nah, thinking more of bioware with nanotech and stuff.

    Fulfilling similar purposes to cyberware to go beyond limits but less intrusive and risk of cyber psychosis.

  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    We already got bio augs.
    Where?!

    I'll kill em!

    Plastic Surgery.
    Nah, thinking more of bioware with nanotech and stuff.

    Fulfilling similar purposes to cyberware to go beyond limits but less intrusive and risk of cyber psychosis.

    I'm aware. It wasn't a very good joke.

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  • JazzJazz Fuck cancer. Un-UKRegistered User regular
    I rely on augs every single day. First and foremost, my glasses. It wasn't all that long ago in the grand scheme of things that these things would have been effectively unfathomable tech.

  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    edited October 16
    Hearing aids are genuine cyberware.

    Prosthetics are going amazing places too and have done for a while.
    Jazz wrote: »
    I rely on augs every single day. First and foremost, my glasses. It wasn't all that long ago in the grand scheme of things that these things would have been effectively unfathomable tech.

    As long as by "not that long ago" you mean prior to around 1290, then sure!

    Note you didn't say unaffordable, but unfathomable. They've been around for a while now.

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    My favorite aug is forks.

    They enhance my hand's ability to grip meat.

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  • SyngyneSyngyne Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    My favorite aug is forks.

    They enhance my hand's ability to grip meat.

    My favorite aug for that is hamburger buns. They’re recyclable!

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  • JazzJazz Fuck cancer. Un-UKRegistered User regular
    edited October 16
    Hearing aids are genuine cyberware.

    Prosthetics are going amazing places too and have done for a while.
    Jazz wrote: »
    I rely on augs every single day. First and foremost, my glasses. It wasn't all that long ago in the grand scheme of things that these things would have been effectively unfathomable tech.

    As long as by "not that long ago" you mean prior to around 1290, then sure!

    Note you didn't say unaffordable, but unfathomable. They've been around for a while now.

    Oh, yeah, I should clarify the combination of this strong and this thin. Lenses like this barely existed when I was a kid, I don't think.

    And yeah, hearing aids are totally genuine cyberware.

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  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII Registered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    God, MILFGAARD is a great name for a porn mag.

    My wife made this joke when we watched the Witcher series on Netflix (she wasn’t really familiar be for that).

    I was a proud husband that day.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    I want to do a solo run, I've decided

    Handguns, full-on corpo style, fast

    Basically Joker from Persona in a waistcoat

    Excuse me, Joker would never be a corpo.

    He grows up, his skillset fetches a fortune in the upper tiers of society, he sells out

    Everyones got a price

    Oh...

    Oh no...

    I just wanted to say that for quite a while now I have been thinking of entirely the wrong Joker because I didn't read the "from persona" part of the sentence due to skimming too fast.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited October 16
    I'm kinda interested in seeing what it's like with minimum augs. You walk into a dive and people at the bar nudge each, whispering about "that's Bootknife McGee, you gotta watch out for him". And when these rookies with boron-reinforced fingernails and hydraulic ears ask what kind of augs he's running to get that name, people just answer "he keeps a knife in his boot".

    Because that's it. Knife. Boot. The trick is to be creative.

    And because you aren't all tricked out, it throws people for a loop. Get checked out by some gang and all they find is a knife. Corpo scans you inside and out? Bootknife. And so they aren't sure if the whole thing is a joke or not, because you gotta have augs, right?

    But no. It's all in the bootknife.

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  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    I'm glad there's no cyberpsychosis.

    I am 100% here for Bootknife McGee. I will subscribe to his newsletter, watch his career with great interest, and stand behind him in his corner nodding emphatically as people say not to fuck with him.

    But I don't need a video game to tell me i'm crazy for wanting to be fully free of this flesh prison I was forced into wearing.

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited October 16
    Aistan wrote: »
    I'm glad there's no cyberpsychosis.

    I am 100% here for Bootknife McGee. I will subscribe to his newsletter, watch his career with great interest, and stand behind him in his corner nodding emphatically as people say not to fuck with him.

    But I don't need a video game to tell me i'm crazy for wanting to be fully free of this flesh prison I was forced into wearing.
    I imagine they won't let you get nearly teched out enough to justify the potential for cyber psychosis, unfortunately.

    Got to be up to your eyeballs in cyberware. Find the whole concept fascinating though.

    What is it about cyberware that flicks a switch in your brain like that?

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  • CorsiniCorsini Registered User regular
    Can't hack the bootknife. The bootknife hacks you.

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  • M-VickersM-Vickers Registered User regular
    Aistan wrote: »
    I'm glad there's no cyberpsychosis.

    I am 100% here for Bootknife McGee. I will subscribe to his newsletter, watch his career with great interest, and stand behind him in his corner nodding emphatically as people say not to fuck with him.

    But I don't need a video game to tell me i'm crazy for wanting to be fully free of this flesh prison I was forced into wearing.

    I like the idea of Augsburg that are unobtrusive, and going for a hacking/stealth build.

    I’m trying to avoid too much info, though, as I want to be surprised by as much as possible. My Nomad will be a bit Hillbilly, and not clued up on augs, except in general. Like me !

    4 weeks to go.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    I'm more of a Murderhobo Marvin fan, myself.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Aistan wrote: »
    I'm glad there's no cyberpsychosis.

    I am 100% here for Bootknife McGee. I will subscribe to his newsletter, watch his career with great interest, and stand behind him in his corner nodding emphatically as people say not to fuck with him.

    But I don't need a video game to tell me i'm crazy for wanting to be fully free of this flesh prison I was forced into wearing.
    I imagine they won't let you get nearly teched out enough to justify the potential for cyber psychosis, unfortunately.

    Got to be up to your eyeballs in cyberware. Find the whole concept fascinating though.

    What is it about cyberware that flicks a switch in your brain like that?

    Mostly it's for in-game (tabletop) balance so there's a character price to augs and you can't just turn every character into a unstoppable death machine. Otherwise, why wouldn't everybody just roll all their money into turning themselves into nigh-immortal metal people that make humans completely irrelevant? But that's actually easier to handle in a video game because the devs can set up all the aug balance however they like and players just have to roll with it (short of mods), as well as coding in anything related to the world reacting to your level of augs. No need to bother with something that might take player control away in that case.

    In the real world, amputees do actually suffer from disorientation and phantom pain from losing a limb. Your brain kinda "maps" where everything should be and it doesn't like it if stuff isn't there, so there is potentially real risk to something like having much of your body replaced with synthetic parts. Though the big difference is that, obviously, we don't have prosthetics yet that can hook up to your nervous system and communicate things like sense of touch. If your brain thinks a robot arm is a regular arm, it might not care at all that it isn't flesh, just that it feels like there is a flesh arm there.

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  • JazzJazz Fuck cancer. Un-UKRegistered User regular
    There's also the issue of nerve endings regrowing the wrong way, contributing to phantom pain. This from an amputee I follow on Facebook:
    But now [phantom pain]'s back. I understand why it's back. My cut nerves are growing tendrils, reaching into the surrounding tissues, searching to reconnect with a cut end that is no longer there. Did you know nerves work like that? If they get severed, the severed ends send out axons to repair themselves. Sometimes they find each other and grow together again.

    If there is no other end - no nerve to reconnect with - they sometimes grow into an a ball of axons called a neuroma.

  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    And just fyi for anyone not familiar with neuromas they can range from just slight numbness/tingling all the way to up to unrelenting agonizing pain.

    So, ya know, good times.

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited October 17
    But because the player sitting at the table doesn't have to experience any of that themselves, they will often - unless prevented by rules, their GM, or both - ignore such petty concerns as constant pain or profound alienation from unaugmented humans, at most dutifully writing down the penalty to certain actions on their sheet (and then, as often as not, "forget" it unless the GM reminds them).

    See also "I resist the charm/illusion/seduction/hunger/thirst/fatigue" *roll*, because their character is nothing but a playing piece, a soulless automaton they remotely control to try to Win The Game.

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  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    Ideally I won't have any neurons left because i'll have been uploaded as software into a robot construct.

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