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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    I realized why I was feeling shitty today

    I totally forgot to use my therapy lamp when I came in this morning!

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    FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    Also that story about the kid looking up porn in class reminded me of the safeguards that were in place to keep kids at my middle school from doing anything untoward on the computer.

    They meant for you to be unable to open anything but a single folder on the desktop with a link to MSWord and an area to save Word files.

    What ended up happening is that everyone used the search bar from opening the folder to access all the system files and install/run Diablo on every computer in the lab.

    I am guessing that the tech to keep kids from doing untoward things has evolved somewhat because we certainly had the power to erase our search history/internet history because we weren't even supposed to be able to open a browser

    At my school, they deleted some of the 'non-scholastic' default software so that we couldn't run it. Except some of these were menu items, so trying to access the programs would bring up an error saying the program was missing, complete with a prompt box directing us to identity the executables correct installed location. From there we could point it at any executable on the machine to run any program still installed on the computer. Or, you know, in the disk drive.

    X-Com LP Thread I, II, III, IV, V
    That's unbelievably cool. Your new name is cool guy. Let's have sex.
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    chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    I don't think I have ever in my working life gotten Veterans' Day off

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Fishman wrote: »
    Also that story about the kid looking up porn in class reminded me of the safeguards that were in place to keep kids at my middle school from doing anything untoward on the computer.

    They meant for you to be unable to open anything but a single folder on the desktop with a link to MSWord and an area to save Word files.

    What ended up happening is that everyone used the search bar from opening the folder to access all the system files and install/run Diablo on every computer in the lab.

    I am guessing that the tech to keep kids from doing untoward things has evolved somewhat because we certainly had the power to erase our search history/internet history because we weren't even supposed to be able to open a browser

    At my school, they deleted some of the 'non-scholastic' default software so that we couldn't run it. Except some of these were menu items, so trying to access the programs would bring up an error saying the program was missing, complete with a prompt box directing us to identity the executables correct installed location. From there we could point it at any executable on the machine to run any program still installed on the computer. Or, you know, in the disk drive.

    My middleschool certainly wasn't helped by the fact that the typing teacher did the very slow "double index finger finding each letter" style of typing so they had to change the password about once per month for the school network and we would always find out about it when she went to log in while we were at her desk with a question.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Played CeeLo Green’s “Fuck You” on repeat all day today.

    How was everyone else’s day?

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Kind of meh, but it's almost over, so things are looking up.

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    There are legends of the before-times at my work (aka before I was hired) where everyone in my department on night shifts would play unreal tournament on the networked computers, apparently with complete impunity. Until one day they received a message from one of the managers: THE COMPANY IS WATCHING AND THEY KNOW *EVERYTHING*

    Fearful of things becoming real, the tournaments were stopped.

    My only regret is that I wasn't around for those times, I can only imagine how I would have stomped those noobs

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    Drake ChambersDrake Chambers Lay out my formal shorts. Registered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    The thing about grad school is that most of them fundamentally do not respect you, as a person, or your life, and that sucks.

    Did I ever mention that they gave us 1Ls a speech when we just starting about how at least one person would inevitably quit due to cocaine?

    And how they knew this because it literally happens every year?

    Law school in particular is designed to disrespect you so it can weed people out of the process.

    The theatre department at my university held annual auditions for its scholarship program on Superbowl Sunday. It generally was not a problem for people, but sometimes it was, and I can't help but feel that was some sort of test.

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    FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    Fishman wrote: »
    Also that story about the kid looking up porn in class reminded me of the safeguards that were in place to keep kids at my middle school from doing anything untoward on the computer.

    They meant for you to be unable to open anything but a single folder on the desktop with a link to MSWord and an area to save Word files.

    What ended up happening is that everyone used the search bar from opening the folder to access all the system files and install/run Diablo on every computer in the lab.

    I am guessing that the tech to keep kids from doing untoward things has evolved somewhat because we certainly had the power to erase our search history/internet history because we weren't even supposed to be able to open a browser

    At my school, they deleted some of the 'non-scholastic' default software so that we couldn't run it. Except some of these were menu items, so trying to access the programs would bring up an error saying the program was missing, complete with a prompt box directing us to identity the executables correct installed location. From there we could point it at any executable on the machine to run any program still installed on the computer. Or, you know, in the disk drive.

    My middleschool certainly wasn't helped by the fact that the typing teacher did the very slow "double index finger finding each letter" style of typing so they had to change the password about once per month for the school network and we would always find out about it when she went to log in while we were at her desk with a question.

    The teacher who took over as lab tech my last couple years was cool. He wouldn't care (and was in fact impressed) every time we broke security. He'd let us have our breach until the end of each term, then he'd patch or fix the vulnerability and we'd have to start over again. Sometimes we had a couple months of play, sometimes just a few days. He'd let us play whatever as long as we were outside class hours and we didn't need to hide it, then the access would all close and we'd have to start all over again.

    Honestly, that was probably the best computing education I ever recieved in my school years.

    X-Com LP Thread I, II, III, IV, V
    That's unbelievably cool. Your new name is cool guy. Let's have sex.
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Fishman wrote: »
    Fishman wrote: »
    Also that story about the kid looking up porn in class reminded me of the safeguards that were in place to keep kids at my middle school from doing anything untoward on the computer.

    They meant for you to be unable to open anything but a single folder on the desktop with a link to MSWord and an area to save Word files.

    What ended up happening is that everyone used the search bar from opening the folder to access all the system files and install/run Diablo on every computer in the lab.

    I am guessing that the tech to keep kids from doing untoward things has evolved somewhat because we certainly had the power to erase our search history/internet history because we weren't even supposed to be able to open a browser

    At my school, they deleted some of the 'non-scholastic' default software so that we couldn't run it. Except some of these were menu items, so trying to access the programs would bring up an error saying the program was missing, complete with a prompt box directing us to identity the executables correct installed location. From there we could point it at any executable on the machine to run any program still installed on the computer. Or, you know, in the disk drive.

    My middleschool certainly wasn't helped by the fact that the typing teacher did the very slow "double index finger finding each letter" style of typing so they had to change the password about once per month for the school network and we would always find out about it when she went to log in while we were at her desk with a question.

    The teacher who took over as lab tech my last couple years was cool. He wouldn't care (and was in fact impressed) every time we broke security. He'd let us have our breach until the end of each term, then he'd patch or fix the vulnerability and we'd have to start over again. Sometimes we had a couple months of play, sometimes just a few days. He'd let us play whatever as long as we were outside class hours and we didn't need to hide it, then the access would all close and we'd have to start all over again.

    Honestly, that was probably the best computing education I ever recieved in my school years.

    Our was computer illiterate to the point that she had me troubleshoot her computer at least once a week.

    She didn't even notice that I didn't need to use a password to access her files.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    All of the systems I needed went down this afternoon so I just left early and went for a run.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Ours had multiple photos of his cat in his office but none of his family.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    godmode wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    godmode wrote: »
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    Bucketman wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Debating if I want to go for Security+ or A+ next.

    Security is more interesting to me but Security will reset the expiration date on both my A+ and Network+ to my understanding and I want both eventually...

    Well, what do you do for work right now and where do you want to be? I've spoken to several industry people when I was planning my A+ a few months ago and all of them told me that with my education and experience background an A+ would be a waste of $400.

    I am studying for the Security + right now so if you want some recommendations on materials I have a stack of em.

    Right now I am working on a primarily account management capacity for a dental software startup company. Long term working in InfoSec in some capacity seems really nice.

    My background is mostly education though so this is overall a decent gear change for me.

    I'd do the A+ only if your company was paying you for it and you have a ton of free time. As mentioned, it's a $400 test, and the knowledge tested is surpassed by Net+ and Sec+. You're better off going forward instead of back, maybe diversify to other certs outside of CompTIA. There are countless options for better ways to direct your efforts.

    Work has covered my certs so far but I don’t know if they will do so indefinitely or for any cost of test. Spending my time effectively is my primary concern

    I would pick a technology that interests you and get something else then, instead of a lower level generalist certification. Sec+ if you want to get your feet wet on security but don’t have a more specific ambition.
    What are the systems at work that interest you? Or which tools do you use frequently but want more exposure on? Perhaps a Linux or PowerShell cert to give some broad strokes of OS backend exposure, since that will be a huge component of security for you down the line.

    I am not sure if I know enough yet to pick something really specific that I want to zero in on so I think Sec+ could be a good overview for me.

    Right now I am taking a break to learn some Kali Linux and do some bug bounties mostly for fun but also learn some things in the process.

    Linux cert sounds like a good step for me.

    Just curious, how are you pursuing bug bounties, because I've been wanting to do that myself and have no idea where to start.

    As for a homelab, all I have right now is a Kali Linux VM, a Redhat, a Windows Server 2016 VM and one for Windows 10. I use Kali to mess with the other VMs, I poke and prod them and do stuff like assign random passwords and see if I can use Kali to crack em. So far my favorite Kali tool to use is THE HARVESTER because its called that.

    I am juuuust starting out with the big bounty stuff but I have been looking at BugCrowd’s stuff. Also the how to shot web series by Haddix is great. I am working through some of the books he recommended and then am basically going to walk through his methodology 1 to 1 on something like hack the box to start, I think.

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2019
    If you were a large, notoriously wealthy tertiary institution and you bought up an entire town's worth of land around a new campus development, would you use it to
    a) add student and staff oriented infrastructure like gyms, cafeterias and greenspace
    b) develop affordable housing blocks to ease the burden on students in one of the most expensive cities in the country
    c) lease the land to developers at inflated rates so they can throw up cheaply made "luxury" apartment blocks and lease them back to the same students you're supposed to be serving at nearly twice market value?

    You guys are smart, I'll give you one guess what my employers are doing.

    tynic on
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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Bonus: apparently actively trying to match the funding level of scholarships and stipends offered by other local institutions would constitute "price fixing". I'm still mulling that over.

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    JansonJanson Registered User regular
    My assistant’s still sick, he was in this morning but had to leave early.

    I’ve had a very dull three days at work, just me, no one to chat to, sooooo much data entry. Like nonstop data entry. I haven’t had a chance to do all the odd jobs I normally get done while my assistant is doing (most of) the data entry.

    So I told the bosses this. It’s a fine balance; trying to show that you’re coping and nothing is on fire, but also that two people are definitely needed to do the job.

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    Hey guys, do your best not to go out due to chronic liver failure from alcohol abuse. It's not great!
    I've been doing some PT with an acute patient and man, it's rooough.

    manwiththemachinegun on
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Cirrhosis don't fuck around

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Bonus: apparently actively trying to match the funding level of scholarships and stipends offered by other local institutions would constitute "price fixing". I'm still mulling that over.

    Knowing where you work makes this...particularly interesting...

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    Cirrhosis don't fuck around

    I'll spare the gory details, but your body exploding with toxins does not make for happy time.

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    CalicaCalica Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Each semester there's an open Q&A with the department dean & administration. Questions can be submitted anonymously beforehand, and are displayed online in the days before the event.

    That's the backstory, here's something someone just submitted:
    "[The university] does not have any unusual problem with sexism, bias, or academic culture. What steps is the department taking to screen out those who are not prepared for the minor stresses of the real world?"

    Subsequent questions are getting juicy.

    "OK, Boomer"

    I just assumed the author in question was a student. I don't know if that says more about society or me, honestly.

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Moriveth wrote: »
    I realized why I was feeling shitty today

    I totally forgot to use my therapy lamp when I came in this morning!

    Sounds like you really love lamp

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    L A M P

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Fishman wrote: »
    The teacher who took over as lab tech my last couple years was cool. He wouldn't care (and was in fact impressed) every time we broke security. He'd let us have our breach until the end of each term, then he'd patch or fix the vulnerability and we'd have to start over again. Sometimes we had a couple months of play, sometimes just a few days. He'd let us play whatever as long as we were outside class hours and we didn't need to hide it, then the access would all close and we'd have to start all over again.

    Honestly, that was probably the best computing education I ever recieved in my school years.

    I had a math teacher who didn't mind us haxxing shit to play Quake at all, as long as we got things done.

    Though in hindsight his one comment about "Wouldn't it be cool if you jumped through that teleporter and popped out over in the metalworking class and started shooting those stupid kids that don't get math?" may have been a bit worrying.

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    I also had a teacher in mechanical theory (or whatever you'd translate that to) that was the spitting image of Gordon Freeman.

    His approach to teaching was "Here's a page with tasks. If you don't get something, ask the person next to you. If they don't get it, ask the person next to them. If nobody gets it I guess I'll have to help you."

    Then he sat with his feet on the desk for the rest of the class.

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    First paychecl after a promotion.

    First promotion after......a long as time

    :colbertgiveittomegif:

    Also, someone made an excellent life choice to park on the street with a backpack in the back of this nice car.

    The landscape is composed of large rocks and we are in .......Seattle.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    Now days kids go to unblockedgames.com or something and just play games there.

    Blake T on
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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    I also had a teacher in mechanical theory (or whatever you'd translate that to) that was the spitting image of Gordon Freeman.

    His approach to teaching was "Here's a page with tasks. If you don't get something, ask the person next to you. If they don't get it, ask the person next to them. If nobody gets it I guess I'll have to help you."

    Then he sat with his feet on the desk for the rest of the class.

    That. Is a bad teacher.

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    DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    L A M P

    Linux
    Apache
    MySql
    PHP

    I haven't thought about that in years!

    "Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    I also had a teacher in mechanical theory (or whatever you'd translate that to) that was the spitting image of Gordon Freeman.

    His approach to teaching was "Here's a page with tasks. If you don't get something, ask the person next to you. If they don't get it, ask the person next to them. If nobody gets it I guess I'll have to help you."

    Then he sat with his feet on the desk for the rest of the class.

    That. Is a bad teacher.

    Gordon Freeman being a bad teacher is hardly surprising after Half-Life 1 & 2

    Good at murdering things with crowbars, terrible at everything else

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    So a few weeks ago I applied for a talent initiative thing that helps pay student loans down and gets you a job in specific industries when you graduate. Helped that I had a lot of professors willing to write me letters of recommendation. Got the word last night, I made it past the first round. Next round is a half hour technical/skills interview in just under two weeks. So now I am like super nervous about making sure I study enough so this goes better then my previous interview.

    No pressure, just all the pressure.

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    DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    L A M P

    Linux
    Apache
    MySql
    PHP

    I haven't thought about that in years!

    Come to think of it... Is PHP still a thing or did all those programmers move on to Node.js? (snicker)

    "Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    L A M P

    Linux
    Apache
    MySql
    PHP

    I haven't thought about that in years!

    Come to think of it... Is PHP still a thing or did all those programmers move on to Node.js? (snicker)

    Node.js became a thing for all of about 18 seconds before people realized javascript is awful and making it a server side language was the worst idea in the history of terrible programming ideas.

    You're better off with god damned perl.

    There's still some die harders who will defend node.js until their dying breath, killed by promises and truthiness.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    edited November 2019
    Ok, Boomer sounds way too much like a southern joke to me for it to work as "baby boomer"

    Oghulk on
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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2019
    Calica wrote: »

    "OK, Boomer"

    I just assumed the author in question was a student. I don't know if that says more about society or me, honestly.

    (They were absolutely a student, it's a student event)

    tynic on
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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Free and paid, but i have food at home so party has to wait

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    I just had a group of library bigwigs from the second largest school district in my state come by to pick my brain about VR in schools. During this meeting it has come to my attention that I am now considered not only THE expert in video gaming in school libraries in the state, but also THE excerpt on VR in public schools in the state.

    I am unsure how to react to this revelation.

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    BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Convince them to put on VR goggles, trap them permanently in the VR world, and then seize control yourself.

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
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    El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    I just had a group of library bigwigs from the second largest school district in my state come by to pick my brain about VR in schools. During this meeting it has come to my attention that I am now considered not only THE expert in video gaming in school libraries in the state, but also THE excerpt on VR in public schools in the state.

    I am unsure how to react to this revelation.

    Make sure that the bigwigs realize that being a Video Game Expert requires quite a bit of practice and specialized tools, and make sure they allow you time during work hours and a decently large screen to continue to keep up on important trends in this rapidly changing and vibrant industry!

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    DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    L A M P

    Linux
    Apache
    MySql
    PHP

    I haven't thought about that in years!

    Come to think of it... Is PHP still a thing or did all those programmers move on to Node.js? (snicker)

    Node.js became a thing for all of about 18 seconds before people realized javascript is awful and making it a server side language was the worst idea in the history of terrible programming ideas.

    You're better off with god damned perl.

    There's still some die harders who will defend node.js until their dying breath, killed by promises and truthiness.

    heh, I said that just to trigger you @bowen. You're so much fun when you rant about JavaScript. (Note the capital J and S, sir.) :hydra:

    "Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
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