Rick has, multiple times on screen, died and come back to life across multiple different episodes.
There is never any risk. Not when it comes to physical and intellectual confrontations anyway. FFS the guy created a series of elaborate trap scenarios to defeat fake Avengers while black out drunk. All any other human achieves in that state is, at most, peeing in a bush then falling in to it. No entity, ever, at any point is going to be an actual threat to Rick.
Except squirrels of course.
That episode was the worst and Dan Harmon agrees. Terrible story structure laid on-top of what is essentially a sequel to meseeks and destroy.
I have no idea which one you're referring to. I mention multiple different episodes.
Revenues is a luke warm rewarding of the a plot to meseeks and destroy.
I don't think it's his best work but it shares almost nothing with Meseeks and Destroy beyond "Morty picks the adventure".
Rick has, multiple times on screen, died and come back to life across multiple different episodes.
There is never any risk. Not when it comes to physical and intellectual confrontations anyway. FFS the guy created a series of elaborate trap scenarios to defeat fake Avengers while black out drunk. All any other human achieves in that state is, at most, peeing in a bush then falling in to it. No entity, ever, at any point is going to be an actual threat to Rick.
Except squirrels of course.
That episode was the worst and Dan Harmon agrees. Terrible story structure laid on-top of what is essentially a sequel to meseeks and destroy.
I have no idea which one you're referring to. I mention multiple different episodes.
Revenues is a luke warm rewarding of the a plot to meseeks and destroy.
I don't think it's his best work but it shares almost nothing with Meseeks and Destroy beyond "Morty picks the adventure".
1. Morty picks an adventure and rick reluctantly joins
2. Hijinx ensue
3. Good guys revealed to be bad
4. Rick helps morty escape
The a plot is very similar, just with different window dressing.
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Except for the family being involved, Morty getting wrecked by the events of adventure, Rick blowing up the guy that ruined Morty's adventure, there's no superhero theme, there's no theme of nihilism and/or believing your own publicity, there's no superheroes as the main target of mockery, a lack of anything remotely similar between the two adventures, the later episode explicitly being a ripoff of the SAW films, and the later episode having fuck-all to do with anything as opposed to showing some slight humanity in Rick and slight functionality with Jerry and Beth.
So the only actual connections between the two is Rick and Morty because it's their show and Morty getting to choose an adventure. "Morty wants to do something and Rick is reluctantly involved, then hijinx follow" is like half the damn series.
Except for the family being involved, Morty getting wrecked by the events of adventure, Rick blowing up the guy that ruined Morty's adventure, there's no superhero theme, there's no theme of nihilism and/or believing your own publicity, there's no superheroes as the main target of mockery, a lack of anything remotely similar between the two adventures, the later episode explicitly being a ripoff of the SAW films, and the later episode having fuck-all to do with anything as opposed to showing some slight humanity in Rick and slight functionality with Jerry and Beth.
So the only actual connections between the two is Rick and Morty because it's their show and Morty getting to choose an adventure. "Morty wants to do something and Rick is reluctantly involved, then hijinx follow" is like half the damn series.
All the super hero stuff is window dressing. The main theme of trusted institutions being dark nd corrupt is recycled with the only twist being rick cares more for noobnoob then his own son because edgy.
Except for the family being involved, Morty getting wrecked by the events of adventure, Rick blowing up the guy that ruined Morty's adventure, there's no superhero theme, there's no theme of nihilism and/or believing your own publicity, there's no superheroes as the main target of mockery, a lack of anything remotely similar between the two adventures, the later episode explicitly being a ripoff of the SAW films, and the later episode having fuck-all to do with anything as opposed to showing some slight humanity in Rick and slight functionality with Jerry and Beth.
So the only actual connections between the two is Rick and Morty because it's their show and Morty getting to choose an adventure. "Morty wants to do something and Rick is reluctantly involved, then hijinx follow" is like half the damn series.
All the super hero stuff is window dressing. The main theme of trusted institutions being dark nd corrupt is recycled with the only twist being rick cares more for noobnoob then his own son because edgy.
I don't feel that they're the same despite there being some thematic convergence. The vindicators are front and center from the start of the episode, their dysfunctionality only revealed slowly as the episode progresses. King Jelly Bean is a throw away joke for 3 seconds at the end of the episode and only after you've encountered him as a bad guy.
Rick isn't glorified, he's mocked. He'd rather nearly die as a pickle than go to family therapy once and that's not the behavior of a healthy minded person.
The pickle Rick episode is actually not a bad example of what I'm talking about. He completely subverts any attempts to hold him accountable and it's one of the most popular episodes in the fandom despite it being almost non-stop "Rick is such a badass" masterbatory fantasy. The best episodes are ones that explore Rick's flaws, not Doctor Mary-sue.
I think if you took away the notion that Rick is a cool badass from that episode, you’re doing something wrong. Yes, he turned himself into a pickle and blew up an embassy in spectacular fashion, but he also ended the episode by refusing to help reunite a man that saved his life with his daughter, trashed the therapist trying to help his toxic family, and went off to get drunk with his own daughter while his grandkids begged for more therapy.
Rick is toxic af.
I don't find it appealing at all, that's not my take. But even someone casually aware of Rick and Morty knows about picklerick because it's literally everything that's bad about the fanbase, wrapped up in one episode.
Not trying to just stir the pot, or to come off as a curmudgeon hipster-pastiche. This is just my primary problem with R&M past season two, it's a victim of it's own success.
It sounds like you're letting idiots on the internet affect your enjoyment of the show. The show creators are not beholden to idiots online, and you really shouldn't care what alt-right assholes think about a comedy show.
It's less people online, and more people I talk to, especially the public writ large.
The most visible example of this is the Sauce debacle. While I was waiting in line for the sauce the dude-bros behind me
A) Cat Called Woman Proceeded to get very drunk on the street (It was around 10 am)
C) Would yell out quotes to people shopping with their families and otherwise minding their business.
(I later sold my packet of sauce and bought a switch)
So I do think that the writers being more edgelords and portraying Rick as a godlike creature who's intelligence can do no wrong is catering to a toxic portion of the fanbase.
With that being said I respect that this view is only my own and I think I've said all I have to say on this.
I don't think you can put the sauce meme and ensuing fallout on R&M creators. That was entirely on McDonald's mishandling something that ended up being bigger than they anticipated in terms of hype/cultural significance. Idk if you been to many live concerts, gatherings, things like ren faires and cons and such, there's always some people there to cause a ruckus, try to make themselves the center of attention and generally take advantage of the atmosphere to be twats. It's really nothing new.
I'm kind of embarrassed about the whole "Rick and Morty is an intelligent show" bit those idiots decided to latch on to. Because I kinda halfway want to agree.
Let me describe it another way. I have left Adult Swim on the TV as background noise. I have seen my fair share of shows on it. And this is the best and most polite way I can describe some of them. There are shows where I am clearly not huffing enough pot/acid/paint thinner to properly enjoy them. I really don't want to insult those shows or say they shouldn't exist or that they can't have an audience. But as someone who doesn't really do drugs, I feel like I'm clearly not the demographic for these shows.
When Rick and Morty was announced, I was a little worried it was going to be that kind of show. And I was utterly delighted when it turned out not to be.
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
I'm kind of embarrassed about the whole "Rick and Morty is an intelligent show" bit those idiots decided to latch on to. Because I kinda halfway want to agree.
Let me describe it another way. I have left Adult Swim on the TV as background noise. I have seen my fair share of shows on it. And this is the best and most polite way I can describe some of them. There are shows where I am clearly not huffing enough pot/acid/paint thinner to properly enjoy them. I really don't want to insult those shows or say they shouldn't exist or that they can't have an audience. But as someone who doesn't really do drugs, I feel like I'm clearly not the demographic for these shows.
When Rick and Morty was announced, I was a little worried it was going to be that kind of show. And I was utterly delighted when it turned out not to be.
Adult Swim has always been a weird mix of "you gotta be real stoned for this" and excellent adult animation. Sometimes there is some crossover between the two. Space Ghost Coast to Coast being the granddaddy of it all in my mind.
I'm kind of embarrassed about the whole "Rick and Morty is an intelligent show" bit those idiots decided to latch on to. Because I kinda halfway want to agree.
Let me describe it another way. I have left Adult Swim on the TV as background noise. I have seen my fair share of shows on it. And this is the best and most polite way I can describe some of them. There are shows where I am clearly not huffing enough pot/acid/paint thinner to properly enjoy them. I really don't want to insult those shows or say they shouldn't exist or that they can't have an audience. But as someone who doesn't really do drugs, I feel like I'm clearly not the demographic for these shows.
When Rick and Morty was announced, I was a little worried it was going to be that kind of show. And I was utterly delighted when it turned out not to be.
Adult Swim has always been a weird mix of "you gotta be real stoned for this" and excellent adult animation. Sometimes there is some crossover between the two. Space Ghost Coast to Coast being the granddaddy of it all in my mind.
Does Coast to Coast hold up?
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I'm kind of embarrassed about the whole "Rick and Morty is an intelligent show" bit those idiots decided to latch on to. Because I kinda halfway want to agree.
Let me describe it another way. I have left Adult Swim on the TV as background noise. I have seen my fair share of shows on it. And this is the best and most polite way I can describe some of them. There are shows where I am clearly not huffing enough pot/acid/paint thinner to properly enjoy them. I really don't want to insult those shows or say they shouldn't exist or that they can't have an audience. But as someone who doesn't really do drugs, I feel like I'm clearly not the demographic for these shows.
When Rick and Morty was announced, I was a little worried it was going to be that kind of show. And I was utterly delighted when it turned out not to be.
Adult Swim has always been a weird mix of "you gotta be real stoned for this" and excellent adult animation. Sometimes there is some crossover between the two. Space Ghost Coast to Coast being the granddaddy of it all in my mind.
Does Coast to Coast hold up?
Some of it does!
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I'm kind of embarrassed about the whole "Rick and Morty is an intelligent show" bit those idiots decided to latch on to. Because I kinda halfway want to agree.
Let me describe it another way. I have left Adult Swim on the TV as background noise. I have seen my fair share of shows on it. And this is the best and most polite way I can describe some of them. There are shows where I am clearly not huffing enough pot/acid/paint thinner to properly enjoy them. I really don't want to insult those shows or say they shouldn't exist or that they can't have an audience. But as someone who doesn't really do drugs, I feel like I'm clearly not the demographic for these shows.
When Rick and Morty was announced, I was a little worried it was going to be that kind of show. And I was utterly delighted when it turned out not to be.
Adult Swim has always been a weird mix of "you gotta be real stoned for this" and excellent adult animation. Sometimes there is some crossover between the two. Space Ghost Coast to Coast being the granddaddy of it all in my mind.
Does Coast to Coast hold up?
Some of it does!
You fool! This is decaf!
I have a podcast now. It's about video games and anime!Find it here.
Some of the best Space Ghost stuff are the interviews. Because I am not sure everyone new what they were getting into.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Some of the best Space Ghost stuff are the interviews. Because I am not sure everyone new what they were getting into.
Most didn’t.
It certainly took a while for anyone to even be aware it was a thing and even then most were not in on the joke.
They also clearly edited the show to have Space Ghost ask questions different than the ones the guests were actually responding to, at times. I think I read somewhere that was mostly a thing in the first couple of seasons.
You make money off of all the nonsense and use it to finance actual content like Rick and Morty and The Venture Brothers.
The Core idea behind AS was "Show me something I've never seen before."
Mike Lazlo, who was the head of {AS} for most of it's tenure (He's since stepped down) wasn't going to greenlight Sealab 2021 until the end credits sequence.
Damn I loved Sealab 2021. It was really hit or miss but when I hit, oh man.
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The most out-of-left-field episode for me, by far, was the episode where they play it as classic Sealab the entire time.
And then Sealab still explodes in the credits.
Second to that is the Archer episode of Sealab, featuring not only a psychotic captain of Sealab but him also being crushed to death by a soda machine.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Mingus Dew!
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
The most out-of-left-field episode for me, by far, was the episode where they play it as classic Sealab the entire time.
And then Sealab still explodes in the credits.
Second to that is the Archer episode of Sealab, featuring not only a psychotic captain of Sealab but him also being crushed to death by a soda machine.
Not only that but the background of his station is the same background from 2021, and he also attempts to fix a computer by hitting it with a wrench.
Oh and his name was also Captain Murphy.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
The most out-of-left-field episode for me, by far, was the episode where they play it as classic Sealab the entire time.
And then Sealab still explodes in the credits.
Second to that is the Archer episode of Sealab, featuring not only a psychotic captain of Sealab but him also being crushed to death by a soda machine.
Not only that but the background of his station is the same background from 2021, and he also attempts to fix a computer by hitting it with a wrench.
Oh and his name was also Captain Murphy.
Also pod seven.
Also sealab explodes.
The episode is FULL of callbacks.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
The most out-of-left-field episode for me, by far, was the episode where they play it as classic Sealab the entire time.
And then Sealab still explodes in the credits.
Second to that is the Archer episode of Sealab, featuring not only a psychotic captain of Sealab but him also being crushed to death by a soda machine.
Not only that but the background of his station is the same background from 2021, and he also attempts to fix a computer by hitting it with a wrench.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Probably the best episode of the season for me.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I've long thought it was funnier if the Beth with the family was the clone, but I think it might be even better if we don't find out which one is which.
I have to say though I don't really understand Rick's motivation in making the choice and then not retaining the memory, or mixing them up and deliberately forgetting who was who.
If Beth was going to stay, you wouldn't make a clone at all. If you made a clone it was because Beth was leaving, and if that was Rick's choice he chose to have his daughter leave.
Did he mix them up because he was going to choose to retain whoever wound up being cooler with him and kill the other? And he didn't want to know for sure if he was killing his daughter?
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I don't think it's his best work but it shares almost nothing with Meseeks and Destroy beyond "Morty picks the adventure".
2. Hijinx ensue
3. Good guys revealed to be bad
4. Rick helps morty escape
The a plot is very similar, just with different window dressing.
So the only actual connections between the two is Rick and Morty because it's their show and Morty getting to choose an adventure. "Morty wants to do something and Rick is reluctantly involved, then hijinx follow" is like half the damn series.
All the super hero stuff is window dressing. The main theme of trusted institutions being dark nd corrupt is recycled with the only twist being rick cares more for noobnoob then his own son because edgy.
I don't feel that they're the same despite there being some thematic convergence. The vindicators are front and center from the start of the episode, their dysfunctionality only revealed slowly as the episode progresses. King Jelly Bean is a throw away joke for 3 seconds at the end of the episode and only after you've encountered him as a bad guy.
It sounds like you're letting idiots on the internet affect your enjoyment of the show. The show creators are not beholden to idiots online, and you really shouldn't care what alt-right assholes think about a comedy show.
The most visible example of this is the Sauce debacle. While I was waiting in line for the sauce the dude-bros behind me
A) Cat Called Woman
C) Would yell out quotes to people shopping with their families and otherwise minding their business.
(I later sold my packet of sauce and bought a switch)
So I do think that the writers being more edgelords and portraying Rick as a godlike creature who's intelligence can do no wrong is catering to a toxic portion of the fanbase.
With that being said I respect that this view is only my own and I think I've said all I have to say on this.
Let me describe it another way. I have left Adult Swim on the TV as background noise. I have seen my fair share of shows on it. And this is the best and most polite way I can describe some of them. There are shows where I am clearly not huffing enough pot/acid/paint thinner to properly enjoy them. I really don't want to insult those shows or say they shouldn't exist or that they can't have an audience. But as someone who doesn't really do drugs, I feel like I'm clearly not the demographic for these shows.
When Rick and Morty was announced, I was a little worried it was going to be that kind of show. And I was utterly delighted when it turned out not to be.
Adult Swim has always been a weird mix of "you gotta be real stoned for this" and excellent adult animation. Sometimes there is some crossover between the two. Space Ghost Coast to Coast being the granddaddy of it all in my mind.
Does Coast to Coast hold up?
Some of it does!
You fool! This is decaf!
Most didn’t.
It certainly took a while for anyone to even be aware it was a thing and even then most were not in on the joke.
They also clearly edited the show to have Space Ghost ask questions different than the ones the guests were actually responding to, at times. I think I read somewhere that was mostly a thing in the first couple of seasons.
You make money off of all the nonsense and use it to finance actual content like Rick and Morty and The Venture Brothers.
The Core idea behind AS was "Show me something I've never seen before."
Mike Lazlo, who was the head of {AS} for most of it's tenure (He's since stepped down) wasn't going to greenlight Sealab 2021 until the end credits sequence.
And then Sealab still explodes in the credits.
Second to that is the Archer episode of Sealab, featuring not only a psychotic captain of Sealab but him also being crushed to death by a soda machine.
Not only that but the background of his station is the same background from 2021, and he also attempts to fix a computer by hitting it with a wrench.
Oh and his name was also Captain Murphy.
Also pod seven.
Also sealab explodes.
The episode is FULL of callbacks.
Well, Pod 7 is full of jerks. Screw pod 7.
dart in your neck
episode.
with snake time travel easily taking the number 1 spot
Also I found a bunch of the songs they used this season, I like them:
I have to say though I don't really understand Rick's motivation in making the choice and then not retaining the memory, or mixing them up and deliberately forgetting who was who.
If Beth was going to stay, you wouldn't make a clone at all. If you made a clone it was because Beth was leaving, and if that was Rick's choice he chose to have his daughter leave.
Did he mix them up because he was going to choose to retain whoever wound up being cooler with him and kill the other? And he didn't want to know for sure if he was killing his daughter?