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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
Do you want a nice pen?
Do you not want the hassle of dicking about with a fountain pen, and have a very limited budget?
The Parker Jotter is your friend. It's a nice enough pen that it may well be the only "nice" pen you ever buy, or it may start you down the dark path of collecting ever more fancy and expensive writing implements.
Right, 2019 was the year i dived in to the deep end of stationary. Started bullet journaling and picked up a few fountain pens.
Paper:
-leuchtturm A5, dotted paper, used as my bullet journal.
-leuchtturm A6 jotbook, used as an extra-write-whatever easily accessible in my pocket
Pens:
-pilot preppy fountain pen, cheap and easy first pen
-TWSBI go, reasonably cheap and easy to refill fountain pen
-lamy 2000, my first "nice" fountain pen, writes as a dream.
-Fischer bullet space pen, goes with the jotbook in my pocket for quick notes.
(Please do not judge my handwriting I know it’s not consistent)
Anyway I love stationery, I fucked up my writing hand a few years ago that causes it to go numb after writing more than a few lines, but I still enjoy collecting stationery. And I received more for Christmas from Moriveth!
He bought me a glass dip pen and inks from Jacques Herbin. I also bought myself a TWSBI Eco fountain pen that, like the Go up there, is self-filling.
It’s subtle but the Herbin 1798 inks have a metallic sheen to them. It looks great when used with a wide nib or brush pen.
I also have a set of metallic inks for writing on black or dark paper. I used the glass dip pen to show these off:
The colours there include silver, gold, copper and white (which can look similar to silver). There’s also an iron ink that doesn’t show up well on black, I would use that on white paper.
I also have an angled dip pen for calligraphy (which I am very bad at! I have some super cool books though) with plenty of replacement nibs from Nikko and Joseph Gillott.
Also the paper is Tomoe River paper, very thin but doesn’t allow for bleed through.
Lastly, Uniball Signo pens are my rollerball jam; the white one here is a Signo, I also use black ones at work. Personally I find them a fraction smoother than Pilot or other rollerball pens.
And I have some Sakura Gelly Roll pens although some of the colours dried out.
Janson on
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
I feel I must speak the truth, and with no malice aforethought state that you are absolutely and utterly wrong - your handwriting is legitimately fantastic.
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
I love this stuff, but I am left handed, and all pens are my enemy.
I love this stuff, but I am left handed, and all pens are my enemy.
Anya empathizes with you! Smudging everywhere!
Left-handers also have an advantage when it comes to certain scripts - for example as a righty I have to use that crooked-shape dip pen for copperplate in order to have the strokes at the correct angle, whereas a lefty could use any kind of pen!
I use a pilot vanishing point, first with sailor Kiwa-guro black and now with platinum carbon. It's a $140 pen, but I need something I can use with one hand and not have it dry out while I'm thinking. This and the decimo are the only pens that fit the bill. I rolled with a lamy till I lost the cap and basically had to buy a new pen.
For fun, I use a lamy safari with a lamy joy italic nib and J herbin emerald of Chivor that has a gold shimmer and red sheen on high quality paper. Calligraphy I'm still working on, but I'm practicing with a brause 361 pumpkin with sumi on HP laser for spencerian.
I also have 11-12 other pens I don't know what to do with
I'm underwhelmed by rhodia; it's serviceable but doesn't really bring out the chromatographic inks. I love their dot pattern though and have a 2 sided pdf template for 20lb notetaking
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Also I am on a journey of ultimate buttery smoothness, which is why I went into fountain pens in the first place. It's time for me to admit that in a post-binderization world, fountain pens may no longer reign supreme against their gel brethren. I'm a fan of the aluminum barrel energels, but I realize they're not the most reliable. Somehow I like them more than G2. I was going to resign myself to Uniball Jetstream or signo 307, but strangely a gift pen with schmidt ceramic 888 was smooth in an unreal way, despite rollerballs and especially ceramic rollerballs being off my radar. Schmidt easy flow 9000 was a big disappointment, so I'm thinking maybe 888 is my EDC, but I don't have a retractable barrel for it.
Anybody wanna fight for something smoother or suggest a barrel for the 888?
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
What rollerball cartridge does the 888 use? I'm no expert, but from what little I do know it seems that the cartridge makes more of a difference to rollerball smoothness than anything else besides pen body weight.
What rollerball cartridge does the 888 use? I'm no expert, but from what little I do know it seems that the cartridge makes more of a difference to rollerball smoothness than anything else besides pen body weight.
The Schmidt 888 is the refill, but it comes in a cap pen.
Uriel, one of the other reasons to choose fountain or other smooth pens is to unlearn the crushing pressure ball points teach you. Cursive actually makes sense with a fountain pen, though you can no longer use carbon paper forms or checks. Less force = less pain.
Janson, how do you de-oil new nibs? Nikko G is super scratchy for me, and I'm wondering if it's rusted or the potato didn't do anything or I wore it out super fast or I've been aping line variation like a goon.
Paladin on
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Do you take notes in your bullet journal? I always felt that was useful but breaks the task based format
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Depends on what you mean by taking notes. If there's something I want to remember for later, I will jot it down among my daily tasks. If I have an idea that needs it's own page, I will give it a page and write the page number down in my index.
Janson, how do you de-oil new nibs? Nikko G is super scratchy for me, and I'm wondering if it's rusted or the potato didn't do anything or I wore it out super fast or I've been aping line variation like a goon.
I didn’t realize you had to! I am just now reading up on it. It might explain some of my issues.
I wish there was a gel/rollerball with the same form factor as a ballpoint refill to have more options with those pens
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
I wish there was a gel/rollerball with the same form factor as a ballpoint refill to have more options with those pens
Parker make rollerball refills in the exact same form factor as their ballpoint refills.
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Lost Salientblink twiceif you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered Userregular
I don't really pay much attention to my choice of pen or pencil beyond "it doesn't drive me crazy" and preferring old school wood pencils that need sharpening over mechanical pencils.
But.
I.
Love.
Stationary.
Which I blame firmly on my time in Korea, because boy do they really go ALL IN on stationary accessorizing in Korea and Japan
The planner I've been using for three years running is by a company from Seoul called MMMG (millimeter milligram):
You write in your own dates and months, which is extra work for some, but I find it quite enjoyable and it means that you can start your calendar whenever you run out the old one.
The week pages have plenty of space in each day for calendar items and odd notes:
It's got a section in the back without lines, for free-drawing and stuff:
And a lined section when you want to feel even more organized:
And it has pockets in the front and back for storage of important items like this list of recommended restaurants from a bartender in Barcelona, or your ever-increasing sticker collection:
Forgive the coffee stains, there was a tragic seal incident in my backpack one day.
I also have a sticky note collection that needs replenishing:
I like to really weird people out when I leave them notes on their devices or desks. Going to have to get some new weird ones from Tokyu Hands or when I'm back in Seoul in May, though.
"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
thatassemblyguyJanitor of Technical Debt.Registered Userregular
So I got into doing some journaling (bullet & otherwise) a couple of years ago, and cribbed a lot from some instagram/influencer posts.
So I got myself a leuchtturm, and started doing things. FYI, yes, it's a PIA carrying around multiple colors of pens in order to separate each area of concern (I need to view things at a glance for the context I'm in or I will go squirrel and colors really help keep things organized for me).
My issue is knowing what to write! I have a few old planners and diaries that I‘d use for a week or two then abandoned because I had no idea what to say or list.
I was going to post my favorite pencil from work today but ended up working from home so you get a stock image instead...
It has some type of infused lead that is super hard to break and every time you pick it up off the paper it rotates the lead slightly to keep it sharp.
I use that and a set of colored Sharpie pens although I've found my latest set of those bleed through the paper more than they used to.
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thatassemblyguyJanitor of Technical Debt.Registered Userregular
My issue is knowing what to write! I have a few old planners and diaries that I‘d use for a week or two then abandoned because I had no idea what to say or list.
For stuff that is project based, it's really easy to get stuff to write - especially if I'm working with others on a project. I'll take notes for myself from meetings, document crazy shit my coworkers say, etc.
I try to keep my schedule in the book as well, but this is more time consuming than I'd like given the automated solutions that are more convenient (though if I ever lose power or decide to go back off grid, it will be worth it).
At some point I have an idea of actually documenting my full day in the journal and having a reserved location for highlights/lowlights, etc, but this too will require me to be more disciplined to establish the habit and make time during the end of the day when I'm most tired (so up hill challenge!)
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Do you not want the hassle of dicking about with a fountain pen, and have a very limited budget?
The Parker Jotter is your friend. It's a nice enough pen that it may well be the only "nice" pen you ever buy, or it may start you down the dark path of collecting ever more fancy and expensive writing implements.
Paper:
-leuchtturm A5, dotted paper, used as my bullet journal.
-leuchtturm A6 jotbook, used as an extra-write-whatever easily accessible in my pocket
Pens:
-pilot preppy fountain pen, cheap and easy first pen
-TWSBI go, reasonably cheap and easy to refill fountain pen
-lamy 2000, my first "nice" fountain pen, writes as a dream.
-Fischer bullet space pen, goes with the jotbook in my pocket for quick notes.
(Please do not judge my handwriting I know it’s not consistent)
Anyway I love stationery, I fucked up my writing hand a few years ago that causes it to go numb after writing more than a few lines, but I still enjoy collecting stationery. And I received more for Christmas from Moriveth!
He bought me a glass dip pen and inks from Jacques Herbin. I also bought myself a TWSBI Eco fountain pen that, like the Go up there, is self-filling.
It’s subtle but the Herbin 1798 inks have a metallic sheen to them. It looks great when used with a wide nib or brush pen.
I also have a set of metallic inks for writing on black or dark paper. I used the glass dip pen to show these off:
The colours there include silver, gold, copper and white (which can look similar to silver). There’s also an iron ink that doesn’t show up well on black, I would use that on white paper.
I also have an angled dip pen for calligraphy (which I am very bad at! I have some super cool books though) with plenty of replacement nibs from Nikko and Joseph Gillott.
Also the paper is Tomoe River paper, very thin but doesn’t allow for bleed through.
Lastly, Uniball Signo pens are my rollerball jam; the white one here is a Signo, I also use black ones at work. Personally I find them a fraction smoother than Pilot or other rollerball pens.
And I have some Sakura Gelly Roll pens although some of the colours dried out.
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Pens might be your enemy, but they might not need to be just due to your main hand!
https://www.nibs.com/content/left-handed-writers
I was going to suggest picking up one of these handy languages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-left - no more ink smudges on your hand!
Anya empathizes with you! Smudging everywhere!
Left-handers also have an advantage when it comes to certain scripts - for example as a righty I have to use that crooked-shape dip pen for copperplate in order to have the strokes at the correct angle, whereas a lefty could use any kind of pen!
For fun, I use a lamy safari with a lamy joy italic nib and J herbin emerald of Chivor that has a gold shimmer and red sheen on high quality paper. Calligraphy I'm still working on, but I'm practicing with a brause 361 pumpkin with sumi on HP laser for spencerian.
I also have 11-12 other pens I don't know what to do with
I'm underwhelmed by rhodia; it's serviceable but doesn't really bring out the chromatographic inks. I love their dot pattern though and have a 2 sided pdf template for 20lb notetaking
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Anybody wanna fight for something smoother or suggest a barrel for the 888?
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
The Schmidt 888 is the refill, but it comes in a cap pen.
Uriel, one of the other reasons to choose fountain or other smooth pens is to unlearn the crushing pressure ball points teach you. Cursive actually makes sense with a fountain pen, though you can no longer use carbon paper forms or checks. Less force = less pain.
Janson, how do you de-oil new nibs? Nikko G is super scratchy for me, and I'm wondering if it's rusted or the potato didn't do anything or I wore it out super fast or I've been aping line variation like a goon.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
I'm not going full Instagram on this thing, but I did buy a few nice micron pens and some washi tape.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
I didn’t realize you had to! I am just now reading up on it. It might explain some of my issues.
Now if only my handwriting wasn't absolute shit lol
A Relefree Survival Tactical Pen Portable Writing Emergency Glass Breaker Self Defense Multi-functional
(My brother and his wife got me this as well as some books on trapping and mountain men because I think they are preparing me for the apocalypse)
Art Paper Roll by Hape 38cm x 20m
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Parker make rollerball refills in the exact same form factor as their ballpoint refills.
But.
I.
Love.
Stationary.
Which I blame firmly on my time in Korea, because boy do they really go ALL IN on stationary accessorizing in Korea and Japan
The planner I've been using for three years running is by a company from Seoul called MMMG (millimeter milligram):
You write in your own dates and months, which is extra work for some, but I find it quite enjoyable and it means that you can start your calendar whenever you run out the old one.
The week pages have plenty of space in each day for calendar items and odd notes:
It's got a section in the back without lines, for free-drawing and stuff:
And a lined section when you want to feel even more organized:
And it has pockets in the front and back for storage of important items like this list of recommended restaurants from a bartender in Barcelona, or your ever-increasing sticker collection:
Forgive the coffee stains, there was a tragic seal incident in my backpack one day.
I also have a sticky note collection that needs replenishing:
I like to really weird people out when I leave them notes on their devices or desks. Going to have to get some new weird ones from Tokyu Hands or when I'm back in Seoul in May, though.
"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
I have so many stickers and tapes I’m afraid to use
So I got myself a leuchtturm, and started doing things. FYI, yes, it's a PIA carrying around multiple colors of pens in order to separate each area of concern (I need to view things at a glance for the context I'm in or I will go squirrel and colors really help keep things organized for me).
It's literally a pizza and pita place in an old parking garage that they tore the roof off of and redid a new one with skylights and stuff over:
"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
It has some type of infused lead that is super hard to break and every time you pick it up off the paper it rotates the lead slightly to keep it sharp.
I use that and a set of colored Sharpie pens although I've found my latest set of those bleed through the paper more than they used to.
@Janson - I get that too.
For stuff that is project based, it's really easy to get stuff to write - especially if I'm working with others on a project. I'll take notes for myself from meetings, document crazy shit my coworkers say, etc.
I try to keep my schedule in the book as well, but this is more time consuming than I'd like given the automated solutions that are more convenient (though if I ever lose power or decide to go back off grid, it will be worth it).
At some point I have an idea of actually documenting my full day in the journal and having a reserved location for highlights/lowlights, etc, but this too will require me to be more disciplined to establish the habit and make time during the end of the day when I'm most tired (so up hill challenge!)
Because I'm trying to start a bullet journal.
Also I gotta try to figure out how bullet journals work...
I’m no expert but jetpens.com has a ton of reviews, best of lists as well as sampler packs that are really fun!