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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    The Suicide of Rachel Foster
    What Remains of Edith Finch
    The Vanishing of Ethan Carter
    Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf
    Everybody Loves Raymond Romano

    I uhh

    I kind of want a Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf game

    Just a game where you watch two people ripping each other into shreds

    You can interject, but all of your dialogue options are almost assuredly the worst possible thing to say

    Or you can explore their house and pour yourself another drink

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    I felt like the structure of Slay the Spire really limited your freedom of play so I beat it but didn't play it much after that. Unlike Binding of Isaac, where you can be screwed by rng but if you're good enough you could beat it with zero items anyway (I am not good enough)

    You technically could defeat Isaac with no items, but for most of the various last bosses it would take a million years to do so even if you played perfectly with no damage upgrades.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    godmode wrote: »
    Am I the only one for who this thread shows perpetually all new posts even when I've read them all?

    I think that bug at least stops once you post in a thread, however it will still show your own post as a new unread post.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    My very first Dead Cells run after getting the DLC last night I ended up with a busted map in the new biome that soft locked my game.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    I wonder what the cash flow is like for No Man's Sky. Do these ongoing content drops drive substantial new sales? Or is it still them just doing make goods for the initial negative blowback while they coast off the strong original sales with a relatively small team? The first few big updates felt like the latter, but they keep coming even after the tone around the game has largely changed

    It consistently is in the Top Sellers on Steam every time a new update comes out.

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    My very first Dead Cells run after getting the DLC last night I ended up with a busted map in the new biome that soft locked my game.

    The classic Motion Twin patch experience

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    edited February 2020
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    I wonder what the cash flow is like for No Man's Sky. Do these ongoing content drops drive substantial new sales? Or is it still them just doing make goods for the initial negative blowback while they coast off the strong original sales with a relatively small team? The first few big updates felt like the latter, but they keep coming even after the tone around the game has largely changed

    It consistently is in the Top Sellers on Steam every time a new update comes out.

    Yeah. I've seen developer interviews where, between the Sony investment and the increased sales every update, they could keep making this game in perpetuity.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Haha. I'm having a conversation with a guy next to a burning house and this cat strolls between us as we're talking, calm as anything, on fire.

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    I wonder what the cash flow is like for No Man's Sky. Do these ongoing content drops drive substantial new sales? Or is it still them just doing make goods for the initial negative blowback while they coast off the strong original sales with a relatively small team? The first few big updates felt like the latter, but they keep coming even after the tone around the game has largely changed

    They make millions in sales every major content patch.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Brolo wrote: »
    The Suicide of Rachel Foster
    What Remains of Edith Finch
    The Vanishing of Ethan Carter
    Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf
    Everybody Loves Raymond Romano

    I uhh

    I kind of want a Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf game

    Just a game where you watch two people ripping each other into shreds

    You can interject, but all of your dialogue options are almost assuredly the worst possible thing to say

    Or you can explore their house and pour yourself another drink

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmuLV9eMTkg
    https://www.playablstudios.com/facade

    it... was an interesting idea that was way too far ahead of the technology it was built with. It would be interesting to see someone revisit the concept with today's advances in natural language processing.

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    Medium DaveMedium Dave Registered User regular
    I wonder what the cash flow is like for No Man's Sky. Do these ongoing content drops drive substantial new sales? Or is it still them just doing make goods for the initial negative blowback while they coast off the strong original sales with a relatively small team? The first few big updates felt like the latter, but they keep coming even after the tone around the game has largely changed

    Besides it doing phenomenal when it came out (despite the rage and disappointment) they've earned a ton of goodwill from people and vastly improved the game (for 99.99999% of people) and keep selling well.

    And they've also said that they're still small and will kind of just keep banging at this game until they stop having fun ideas for it and it's kinda cool that they're at the place where they can do that and not just have to do NMS 2 or something they're less interested in that could possibly fail just because they need money. They get to keep playing with the toy they like and that's rare in video games, I think.

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Hearts of Stone
    I've spent the last few hours preparing for a heist, and in the midst of pulling it off I've just tricked a Redanian soldier into telling a racist joke and then told him off for it.

    This DLC is pretty great.

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    The most fun I had in Facade was just shouting DICKS as soon as they open the door

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    DirtyboyDirtyboy Registered User regular
    edited February 2020
    Hands-on: Hardspace: Shipbreaker is about the dangerous work of cutting up spaceships

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaA0D21EoCQ

    Dirtyboy on
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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Moriveth wrote: »
    The most fun I had in Facade was just shouting DICKS as soon as they open the door

    SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    Facade was hilarious and rad for its time. Some treasured youtube meme videos from that game.

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    HiT BiTHiT BiT 🍒 Fresh, straight from Pac-man's Registered User regular
    According to SteamDB Black Desert Online will be free to keep on Steam begining next February 27th. The promo will last until March 2nd:
    https://steamdb.info/sub/434999/

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    What happened to that first person sci fi horror game, like Moons of Madness ot something similar, did that come out was it worth a damn

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    What happened to that first person sci fi horror game, like Moons of Madness ot something similar, did that come out was it worth a damn

    It came out, and it was apparently Fine™, had a lot of cool story stuff for the like 14 people who still care about The Secret World

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    edited February 2020
    Dirtyboy wrote: »
    Hands-on: Hardspace: Shipbreaker is about the dangerous work of cutting up spaceships

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaA0D21EoCQ

    Oh wow. This game is 100% my jam.

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    ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    Woah, I thought I was tripping because I was thinking, "Is that a Homeworld game?" But no, I was thinking of Hardware: Shipbreakers, which later became Homeworld: Shipbreakers and then Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak when they got the license to make it an official Homeworld prequel.

    ... and then I see it's actually being made by the exact same developer so that's wild. I guess they really, really like the name!

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    So I've been playing Arkham Knight, because I got it for free a long time ago on PC with a graphics card or whatever, but never even installed it because it was a broken nightmare on release

    Now, like two computers later and with a bunch of complimentary DLC, I decided heck with it, I wanna be Batman for a bit

    Turns out the game is really quite good! I mean the story's trash, but it's well-executed trash (with a few awful exceptions). Rocksteady are clearly far better storytellers than they are writers--all the little details they include in gorgeously rendered environments, the graphical tricks they pull to put you in different environments in the blink of an eye. If someone actually wrote a good story for them, they'd knock it out of the park! And the gameplay is as smooth as it's ever been, though with the expansion of options it feels extremely bloated. I don't need half of the abilities I've got to complete the vast majority of the game. So much of it just feels unnecessary, purely there for style or variety. But it's sort of impressive the amount of controls they manage to give you at every moment, and somehow make the game understandable at all! Even the Batmobile stuff is fun, purely in how it feels to drive around and plow through obstacles. The car chases are some of my favorite parts! It feels like Mad Max more than the Mad Max game does in some ways! It doesn't fit at all with the rest of the game, of course, particularly the borderline nonsense drone-tank combat sections, but even those are fun enough moment-to-moment, dodging shells and shooting your own like it's a modern puzzle-game take on Combat

    But the Riddler stuff

    Oh lord the Riddler stuff is bad

    I mean that's not entirely true, the actual puzzles and riddles they give you are fun to figure out and deal with, but the races? Holy shit the races are awful. Like next-level bad. Like I'm amazed that something so monumentally poor actually exists in a triple-A video game release! It's unbelievable that anyone played it at any point during development and went "this is fun, the player will enjoy this." Plus even the drone-tank stuff makes more sense on a narrative level than Riddler somehow assembling all these insane deathtraps in Gotham's sewers or whatever the hell

    Anyway if you can get the whole game for like ten bucks it's pretty cool. It runs like butter on a modern PC, with no crashes or glitches that I've seen, still looks extremely impressive on a technical level, and the DLC feels a lot better when it's integrated into the game from the start and you're not paying thirty bucks to get a couple hours worth of content. I can't imagine how disappointed people were with that stuff when it first came out

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    JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    Zxerol wrote: »
    Woah, I thought I was tripping because I was thinking, "Is that a Homeworld game?" But no, I was thinking of Hardware: Shipbreakers, which later became Homeworld: Shipbreakers and then Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak when they got the license to make it an official Homeworld prequel.

    ... and then I see it's actually being made by the exact same developer so that's wild. I guess they really, really like the name!

    I will now choose to believe that the impetus for this game came from someone misunderstanding what the earlier game was about and the devs liking the idea anyway.

    Steam | SW-0844-0908-6004 and my Switch code
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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    I agree with basically all those words about Arkham Knight.

    One of the weirder decisions is that there's a bunch of DLC Batmobiles, but you can't use them in the main game because they don't transform. Instead you get to use them on more shitty racetracks.

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2020
    Olivaw wrote: »

    Oh lord the Riddler stuff is bad

    I mean that's not entirely true, the actual puzzles and riddles they give you are fun to figure out and deal with, but the races? Holy shit the races are awful. Like next-level bad. Like I'm amazed that something so monumentally poor actually exists in a triple-A video game release! It's unbelievable that anyone played it at any point during development and went "this is fun, the player will enjoy this." Plus even the drone-tank stuff makes more sense on a narrative level than Riddler somehow assembling all these insane deathtraps in Gotham's sewers or whatever the hell

    it is Extremely Videogames, like they knew that adding a time attack race mode was some low-hanging fruit since they already had the tech for the tank done

    It gives you another 15 icons to put on the map to impress reviewers and pads out gameplay by another 3-4 hours

    but how do you justify batman going to a racetrack with a tank to burn some rubber, while Gotham is under siege by mercenary troopers and literally about to explode?

    the easiest way to justify any abstract time-stuffing activity in the arkham games is to go with
    a) vr training
    or
    b) the riddler did it

    the riddler is real smart and is obsessed with challenges even if they aren't particularly clever or brain-teasers in any way and he also has apparently unlimited resources and an army of robots? why shouldn't he have made a giant network of underground race tunnels that nobody found out about until tonight

    look we're out of time we need you working on the gamescom demo so just finish this up and maybe we can tweak the dialog or something so it makes more sense in the day 1 patch

    Brolo on
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Arkham Knight would have been infinitely more fun if everything involving the tankmobile has been deleted from the earth

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Arkham Knight would have been infinitely more fun if everything involving the tankmobile has been deleted from the earth

    I would have loved to see what some of the conversations between the directors and the designers were for the batmobile

    like I know some of the idea was mandated by WB interactive because they saw it as a next-gen feature, so rocksteady didn't really have a whole lot of choice

    but the actual conversations of "why does batman need a car, he can already grapple/glide/fly" and "how do we give the player a tank that has missiles and a cannon and a gatling gun but also fulfill the other WB mandate that Batman Can't Kill Anyone", and "how do we make it so the player doesn't immediately abandon the batmobile and just forget it exists" would have been really amazing to hear

    honestly the solution they came up for "how do we make the batmobile drive like a car but not make the combat bits feel like shit" was to make the car morph into a tank, so that you get strafing controls but also analog steering and acceleration, and that was pretty clever! a lot of arkham is navigable by tank and it really doesn't break or get too janky that often

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    I liked a lot about the Batmobile but the tank combat sections were really unnecessary, even if I liked the transformers angle.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    I didn't get far enough in that game to get the car, I don't think

    I will say that the notion of a car that transforms into a tank is both very stupid and very good

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    I didn't get far enough in that game to get the car, I don't think

    I will say that the notion of a car that transforms into a tank is both very stupid and very good

    I think you get the batmobile like... less than an hour into Arkham Knight? It's part of the tutorial, pretty much

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    maybe I just forgot then

    I definitely didn't play very much of it

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    I wonder what the cash flow is like for No Man's Sky. Do these ongoing content drops drive substantial new sales? Or is it still them just doing make goods for the initial negative blowback while they coast off the strong original sales with a relatively small team? The first few big updates felt like the latter, but they keep coming even after the tone around the game has largely changed

    No Man's Sky sold EXTREMELY well (which is part of the reason why the backlash was so widespread). It basically gave Hello Games the capital to do whatever the fuck they want for years to come.
    godmode wrote: »
    Am I the only one for who this thread shows perpetually all new posts even when I've read them all?

    I think that bug at least stops once you post in a thread, however it will still show your own post as a new unread post.

    I've posted in this thread and still get that bug.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    Arkham Knight would have been infinitely more fun if everything involving the tankmobile has been deleted from the earth

    I would have loved to see what some of the conversations between the directors and the designers were for the batmobile

    like I know some of the idea was mandated by WB interactive because they saw it as a next-gen feature, so rocksteady didn't really have a whole lot of choice

    but the actual conversations of "why does batman need a car, he can already grapple/glide/fly" and "how do we give the player a tank that has missiles and a cannon and a gatling gun but also fulfill the other WB mandate that Batman Can't Kill Anyone", and "how do we make it so the player doesn't immediately abandon the batmobile and just forget it exists" would have been really amazing to hear

    honestly the solution they came up for "how do we make the batmobile drive like a car but not make the combat bits feel like shit" was to make the car morph into a tank, so that you get strafing controls but also analog steering and acceleration, and that was pretty clever! a lot of arkham is navigable by tank and it really doesn't break or get too janky that often

    When I played the game the only time I used the batmobile was when the game forced me into it

    Grappling and flying around the city is faster and more fun

    it's just so superfluous

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    The Arkham games were best when I was the predator stealthily taking out increasingly scared mooks who were probably pissing their pants when they were the last one in an area.

    The combat was eh

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    The very first real "puzzle" in Arkham Knight was using the car to jump across rooftops and align a set of radio dishes so the Worlds Greatest Detective could detect that the chemicals were made at the chemical factory.

    I'm not sure if that says something about Arkham Knight in general, or just something about my reaction to Arkham Knight in general.

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    HiT BiTHiT BiT 🍒 Fresh, straight from Pac-man's Registered User regular
    edited February 2020
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    Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord early access release date has been confirmed on its Steam page after a leak by PC gamer when an article get live by error: 31st March 2020 (for $49.99/£39.99)
    https://steamcommunity.com/app/261550/discussions/0/1749023254243969336/
    According to the now removed leak the game is releasing on the Epic Games Store and TaleWorlds Entertainment's own store too.

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    I didn't get far enough in that game to get the car, I don't think

    I will say that the notion of a car that transforms into a tank is both very stupid and very good

    I think you get the batmobile like... less than an hour into Arkham Knight? It's part of the tutorial, pretty much

    Yeah I dropped it right then too. That car is super dang stupid. I'm pretty thrilled I got the whole mess for 7$ so I didn't lose much

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    I don't make first-day purchases very often, but that's gonna be one of them. It'll help make up for the fact that I bought the original for like five bucks and then played it for several hundred hours.

    Plus, the final version of the first game pretty much was Early Access levels of jank, so it seems fitting.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    The biggest problem with the batmobile is that Batman can fucking FLY in those games

    A car feels like a step backward

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