Someone somewhere has set their red lines, and they'll do every other restriction they can before they touch the schools.
Which I can understand from a theoretical perspective. Education, especially of the younger ages, is vitally important, and also with the young, harder to accomplish properly via distance learning.
Education should absolutely have priority over other aspects, especially recreational ones (pubs/restaurants/clubs/sports).
The problem is, it's clearly not going to be enough. The clusterfuckery that is thhe governmental response, and the lack of societal responsibility of self-entitled people, means that any attempt to open schools and minimize infection rates looks to be doomed from the start.
Which to my mind is the right decision. Much more time out of schools is going to be serious ongoing life outcome harm to a lot of kids.
The absolute no brainer to me that they seem unwilling to even consider is banning non-emergency air travel. Planes could almost be custom designed for super spreader events. It just isn't worth the risk.
Which to my mind is the right decision. Much more time out of schools is going to be serious ongoing life outcome harm to a lot of kids.
The absolute no brainer to me that they seem unwilling to even consider is banning non-emergency air travel. Planes could almost be custom designed for super spreader events. It just isn't worth the risk.
Seriously though, I can see the logic they're using even if I don't agree with their conclusions. The problem is that relaxing restrictions relies on people using common sense, which isn't common enough.
Well they have to extend furlough for gyms. And they desperately don't want to do that. So we will see half arsed efforts fail until the situation gets so out of control that we'll have another big lockdown
They didn't want to do it before, same thing. The government is too incompetent; they can't get test and trace right and they can't get the measures right, they failed to maintain public trust and made critical errors like letting people go on their jollies abroad.
There absolutely needs to be a priority list for what can/should remain open during covid outbreaks.
Obviously emergency services, food distribution, power, and other things we can't live without must remain fully operational at all times.
Schools should be one of the last things to close.
The problem is that a lot of governments are unwilling to close the less important stuff (e.g., bars) leading to the inevitable outcome that we will have to close the schools and may risk losing some of the necessities (hospitals fulls, entire fire departments in quarantine, etc.)
As an example, I'm a professor at a university here in Norway. I will gladly have home office indefinitely if it means that my PhD students can keep using the lab when they need it.
From least to most important:
Office work (incl. research that can be done in the office)
I can't see how these changes will make any difference at all.
It's the worst of both worlds, they've not done enough to slow the spread which in theory would lead to everything re opening sooner but they've made changes that will massively damage certain sectors of the economy.
Why have other countries, like Italy & Germany, recovered better?
PM: "There is a difference between our country and others. Ours is a freedom-loving country... It's very difficult to ask the British population uniformly to obey guidelines in the way that is necessary".
DM reporter (spit) but quoted for the relevant info. The reason it's spiking is that we're too British.
Why have other countries, like Italy & Germany, recovered better?
PM: "There is a difference between our country and others. Ours is a freedom-loving country... It's very difficult to ask the British population uniformly to obey guidelines in the way that is necessary".
DM reporter (spit) but quoted for the relevant info. The reason it's spiking is that we're too British.
Why have other countries, like Italy & Germany, recovered better?
PM: "There is a difference between our country and others. Ours is a freedom-loving country... It's very difficult to ask the British population uniformly to obey guidelines in the way that is necessary".
DM reporter (spit) but quoted for the relevant info. The reason it's spiking is that we're too British.
If there's one thing Italians are known for, it's orderliness.
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Why have other countries, like Italy & Germany, recovered better?
PM: "There is a difference between our country and others. Ours is a freedom-loving country... It's very difficult to ask the British population uniformly to obey guidelines in the way that is necessary".
DM reporter (spit) but quoted for the relevant info. The reason it's spiking is that we're too British.
But everyone will be able to handle Brexit like it was the Blitz, an event notable for it's lack of rules on behavior.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
The number of schools in England sending home groups of pupils because of Covid-19 incidents has quadrupled in a week, according to the latest official figures.
Based on attendance last Thursday, they show 4% of schools not fully open because of confirmed or suspected cases - up from 1% the previous week.
This could mean about 900 schools sending home pupils.
Overall attendance has also dipped slightly from 88% to 87%.
This means over a million children were off school that day, whether from Covid-related or other reasons, with more pupils missing from secondary schools than primary.
The fall in attendance should "ring alarm bells" for the government, said Paul Whiteman, leader of the National Association of Head Teachers.
"Clearly the failure of Covid testing sits at the heart of this. The inability of staff and families to successfully get tested when they display symptoms means that schools are struggling with staffing, children are missing school, and ultimately that children's education is being needlessly disrupted," said Mr Whiteman.
I'm sure it won't get any worse than this, though.
Why have other countries, like Italy & Germany, recovered better?
PM: "There is a difference between our country and others. Ours is a freedom-loving country... It's very difficult to ask the British population uniformly to obey guidelines in the way that is necessary".
DM reporter (spit) but quoted for the relevant info. The reason it's spiking is that we're too British.
That's certainly the kind of thing I'd be keeping in my back pocket for the next time he regurgitates some utter drivel about the 'blitz spirit' or makes any allusion to people coming together to get something (he wants) done, were I in the business of asking Boris questions...
What utter pish. Listen, if we're going to just wholesale copy the American playbook and have an ideology based around a phrase designed to conjure up some vague ideal, pride and good feels to shut off critical thinking can we at least, I dunno, come up with our own? The USA has "Freedum Fries" pretty locked down and since most of us have spent a lifetime watching Hollywood propaganda if he starts putting "freedom" into every speech we aren't going start waving little Union Jacks, the Pavlovian response will kick in and we'll jump to our feet, hands on hearts and start singing "The Star Spangled Banner".
I'm just upset by the laziness of this more than anything. I want my own propaganda damn it, not American hand-me-downs. Like "Sort of Democratic But Also A Hereditary Monarchy Cornish Pasties" or something.
"Once Every Five Years We'll Sort Of Listen To You But Not Really Innovative Jam"
Why have other countries, like Italy & Germany, recovered better?
PM: "There is a difference between our country and others. Ours is a freedom-loving country... It's very difficult to ask the British population uniformly to obey guidelines in the way that is necessary".
DM reporter (spit) but quoted for the relevant info. The reason it's spiking is that we're too British.
Currently, the UK is more.. American than anything European.
Why have other countries, like Italy & Germany, recovered better?
PM: "There is a difference between our country and others. Ours is a freedom-loving country... It's very difficult to ask the British population uniformly to obey guidelines in the way that is necessary".
DM reporter (spit) but quoted for the relevant info. The reason it's spiking is that we're too British.
Yeah, it does seem difficult to ask the population to uniformly obey the guidelines, when the government won't uniformly follow the guidelines of international relations. ("Specific and limited")
best synonym I can think of is liberty. Has the advantage of making your average US conservative have a fit because "libruls".
How about:
There is a difference between our country and others.
British people take their civil liberties very seriously, almost as much as they do their leisure.
That reminds me of this one time where Gove, ever the quaint minstrel, gave our fraternity's corgi a weekend's worth of cocaine.
It went through 5 fences before drowning in the Thames, what a ledge!
What utter pish. Listen, if we're going to just wholesale copy the American playbook and have an ideology based around a phrase designed to conjure up some vague ideal, pride and good feels to shut off critical thinking can we at least, I dunno, come up with our own? The USA has "Freedum Fries" pretty locked down and since most of us have spent a lifetime watching Hollywood propaganda if he starts putting "freedom" into every speech we aren't going start waving little Union Jacks, the Pavlovian response will kick in and we'll jump to our feet, hands on hearts and start singing "The Star Spangled Banner".
I'm just upset by the laziness of this more than anything. I want my own propaganda damn it, not American hand-me-downs. Like "Sort of Democratic But Also A Hereditary Monarchy Cornish Pasties" or something.
"Once Every Five Years We'll Sort Of Listen To You But Not Really Innovative Jam"
The song you will sing shall be My Country, 'Tis Of Thee.
That was the equivalent of a meeting that could have been an email - more referring to the rules than actually laying them out clearly, and just a load of rhetoric about doing the right thing
What utter pish. Listen, if we're going to just wholesale copy the American playbook and have an ideology based around a phrase designed to conjure up some vague ideal, pride and good feels to shut off critical thinking can we at least, I dunno, come up with our own? The USA has "Freedum Fries" pretty locked down and since most of us have spent a lifetime watching Hollywood propaganda if he starts putting "freedom" into every speech we aren't going start waving little Union Jacks, the Pavlovian response will kick in and we'll jump to our feet, hands on hearts and start singing "The Star Spangled Banner".
I'm just upset by the laziness of this more than anything. I want my own propaganda damn it, not American hand-me-downs. Like "Sort of Democratic But Also A Hereditary Monarchy Cornish Pasties" or something.
"Once Every Five Years We'll Sort Of Listen To You But Not Really Innovative Jam"
The song you will sing shall be My Country, 'Tis Of Thee.
I don't know if That Is The Joke, but they already sing that, but with different words.
What utter pish. Listen, if we're going to just wholesale copy the American playbook and have an ideology based around a phrase designed to conjure up some vague ideal, pride and good feels to shut off critical thinking can we at least, I dunno, come up with our own? The USA has "Freedum Fries" pretty locked down and since most of us have spent a lifetime watching Hollywood propaganda if he starts putting "freedom" into every speech we aren't going start waving little Union Jacks, the Pavlovian response will kick in and we'll jump to our feet, hands on hearts and start singing "The Star Spangled Banner".
I'm just upset by the laziness of this more than anything. I want my own propaganda damn it, not American hand-me-downs. Like "Sort of Democratic But Also A Hereditary Monarchy Cornish Pasties" or something.
"Once Every Five Years We'll Sort Of Listen To You But Not Really Innovative Jam"
The song you will sing shall be My Country, 'Tis Of Thee.
I don't know if That Is The Joke, but they already sing that, but with different words.
Yes. That is the joke.
Also, it was the US national anthem before The Star Spangled Banner.
"Don't worry. We have plenty of supplies to get through tomorrow. And then a wave of disease should help to - Hey! Stop streaming over the wall! At least wait till I'm through talking. Okay. Now as for food, the following breeds of dog are edible..."
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Which I can understand from a theoretical perspective. Education, especially of the younger ages, is vitally important, and also with the young, harder to accomplish properly via distance learning.
Education should absolutely have priority over other aspects, especially recreational ones (pubs/restaurants/clubs/sports).
The problem is, it's clearly not going to be enough. The clusterfuckery that is thhe governmental response, and the lack of societal responsibility of self-entitled people, means that any attempt to open schools and minimize infection rates looks to be doomed from the start.
The absolute no brainer to me that they seem unwilling to even consider is banning non-emergency air travel. Planes could almost be custom designed for super spreader events. It just isn't worth the risk.
They're aware that travel companies are hanging on by their fingertips, they don't really want to step on their hands now.
Much better to just tell everyone to self-isolate for two weeks to make sure they don't spread the virus. After all, what are the odds that someone will ignore their two weeks self-imposed quarantine and go on a pub crawl, spreading the virus to countless people?
Seriously though, I can see the logic they're using even if I don't agree with their conclusions. The problem is that relaxing restrictions relies on people using common sense, which isn't common enough.
Well they have to extend furlough for gyms. And they desperately don't want to do that. So we will see half arsed efforts fail until the situation gets so out of control that we'll have another big lockdown
They didn't want to do it before, same thing. The government is too incompetent; they can't get test and trace right and they can't get the measures right, they failed to maintain public trust and made critical errors like letting people go on their jollies abroad.
All these are in place for the next six months. Seems pretty minimal in terms of changes?
Obviously emergency services, food distribution, power, and other things we can't live without must remain fully operational at all times.
Schools should be one of the last things to close.
The problem is that a lot of governments are unwilling to close the less important stuff (e.g., bars) leading to the inevitable outcome that we will have to close the schools and may risk losing some of the necessities (hospitals fulls, entire fire departments in quarantine, etc.)
As an example, I'm a professor at a university here in Norway. I will gladly have home office indefinitely if it means that my PhD students can keep using the lab when they need it.
From least to most important:
Choose Your Own Chat 1 Choose Your Own Chat 2 Choose Your Own Chat 3
It's the worst of both worlds, they've not done enough to slow the spread which in theory would lead to everything re opening sooner but they've made changes that will massively damage certain sectors of the economy.
DM reporter (spit) but quoted for the relevant info. The reason it's spiking is that we're too British.
Choose Your Own Chat 1 Choose Your Own Chat 2 Choose Your Own Chat 3
...mumble, mumble... Blitz spirit... mumble mumble...
If there's one thing Italians are known for, it's orderliness.
But everyone will be able to handle Brexit like it was the Blitz, an event notable for it's lack of rules on behavior.
That's certainly the kind of thing I'd be keeping in my back pocket for the next time he regurgitates some utter drivel about the 'blitz spirit' or makes any allusion to people coming together to get something (he wants) done, were I in the business of asking Boris questions...
Scotland has banned the mixing of households indoors, same rule as NI currently has.
I expect we'll see something similar in England in a week or so.
What utter pish. Listen, if we're going to just wholesale copy the American playbook and have an ideology based around a phrase designed to conjure up some vague ideal, pride and good feels to shut off critical thinking can we at least, I dunno, come up with our own? The USA has "Freedum Fries" pretty locked down and since most of us have spent a lifetime watching Hollywood propaganda if he starts putting "freedom" into every speech we aren't going start waving little Union Jacks, the Pavlovian response will kick in and we'll jump to our feet, hands on hearts and start singing "The Star Spangled Banner".
I'm just upset by the laziness of this more than anything. I want my own propaganda damn it, not American hand-me-downs. Like "Sort of Democratic But Also A Hereditary Monarchy Cornish Pasties" or something.
"Once Every Five Years We'll Sort Of Listen To You But Not Really Innovative Jam"
Currently, the UK is more.. American than anything European.
Yeah, it does seem difficult to ask the population to uniformly obey the guidelines, when the government won't uniformly follow the guidelines of international relations. ("Specific and limited")
How about:
There is a difference between our country and others.
British people take their civil liberties very seriously, almost as much as they do their leisure.
That reminds me of this one time where Gove, ever the quaint minstrel, gave our fraternity's corgi a weekend's worth of cocaine.
It went through 5 fences before drowning in the Thames, what a ledge!
The song you will sing shall be My Country, 'Tis Of Thee.
He's gone too far this time
You guys wanna borrow an AR and take a piss on healthcare to own the lib dems?
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Joe is a reporter for Bloomberg.
Further tweets in the chain talk about how the government's messaging is now about blaming the hauling companies and the EU for any issues.
All of this during Covid part 2....
COVID and lack of adequate food...
I don't know if That Is The Joke, but they already sing that, but with different words.
Yes. That is the joke.
Also, it was the US national anthem before The Star Spangled Banner.
"My country 'tis of thee
La la la liberty
It's really great..."
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I believe your government will fulfill its promise of adequate food.
They'll just redefine "adequate" and "food".
"Don't worry. We have plenty of supplies to get through tomorrow. And then a wave of disease should help to - Hey! Stop streaming over the wall! At least wait till I'm through talking. Okay. Now as for food, the following breeds of dog are edible..."
Though of course that runs the risk that the loaves be used in an uprising.
Maybe they'll just go with unleavened dwarf bread.
At 4 trucks/minute (so a process every 15 seconds) that line is almost 1 and 1/4 days long