I watched both the Addams Family movies last night and discovered baby David Krumholtz is in the sequel, already just leaning right into what his whole career would basically be. The whole of Addams Family Values was basically me going, "hold on, is that..." for the entire run time.
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I watched both the Addams Family movies last night and discovered baby David Krumholtz is in the sequel, already just leaning right into what his whole career would basically be. The whole of Addams Family Values was basically me going, "hold on, is that..." for the entire run time.
Same, we watched AFV for the first time last week (though I haven't seen the first one still), lots of pre-cameos, like Cynthia Nixon as a prospective nanny, and Christine Baranski as the camp leader.
As a first-timer to the Addams Family, I finally get why people are such fans; it's really just a fun, cartoony movie with a great cast, particularly Julia, Huston and Ricci. I could just watch those three doing their thing for hours.
My sister-in-law was up from Australia last year where Halloween is barely a thing, so we rolled through absolutely every PG-13-ish spooky movie we could, Adams Family and Beetlejuice were keepers, and was surprised how well Casper still holds up how good James Horners score is.
I'm kind of burnt out this year from movies, but Haunting of Bly Manor helped fill the spoopin hole.
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I dunno how is wearing a mask over your sick fuckin wet ass fuckin face holes during a fuckin cough sneeze aerial slime plague a partisan issue
I'm confused. Are you saying that this sort of aid is opposed by democrats? The original post made it sound like 911 aid was a right wing partisan issue.
I'm genuinely asking here.
It’s a safe issue that can win bipartisan support. Like I said, it is worthy and yes the GOP were the responsible party for denying the aid. There’s nothing wrong with supporting it in isolation.
But it is also the kind of issue that you can support and have a warm conversation with your Fox-loving uncle about. It’s a noncontroversial, appeal to the sane middle, cause that is both genuinely worthy and a part of Stewart’s “The real problem is partisanship” ideology.
Did Jon Stewart somehow become a bad guy overnight?
no, it was around when his last movie came out and I watched it
It’s not so much that he’s a bad person, and more
that he advocates a failed worldview. His response to the GOP going openly toxic was to hold a mass rally that said the problem was extremism on both sides.
Like, he literally believed that most of the people on this forum are as bad as Trump supporters because they hold “extreme” views out of step with the “sane” majority.
I don't wanna defend Stewart's very real problems but I will point out that 10 years ago, it was less obvious what the "other side" was. if you were a fan of Stewart and Colbert, as I was, and went to that rally - as I did! yes! I'll admit it - you almost certainly did not imagine what the right wing was going to look like within a few years
now I haven't heard any of his more recent opinions on the matter and if he still hasn't changed his outlook then, you know, fuck that. but. I don't know. there's a lot of stuff people didn't see coming 10 years ago, even if they acted like the sort of people who would see it
Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert were big parts of getting me away from the conservative beliefs I had in high school. I doubt I'm the only one. I've...for sure moved further left than both of them, by this point, and I don't think Stewart is especially well equipped for the current moment. The Rally to Restore Sanity thing is one of the dumbest things he's done, and it only looks worse the further we get away from it, but I doubt being a rich retired person has helped him get more in touch with current events, and it's already increasingly hard for anyone to be fully on top of things.
I have no idea what involvement he has had in the move to get healthcare and support for 9/11 firefighters outside of the speeches that went viral, but John Stewart moved me to tears with those speeches. My understanding is that those affected did get (too little, too late) support as a consequence of that campaign and that ain't nothing.
Now get out there John and do the same shit for the rest of the people who are being ground down in the machine. You should not have to risk life and limb to receive a decent healthcare
Some of us were clued into how bad the GOP were at the time, the massive human damage they had caused to the world, and the horror of what they wanted to do to if they got the power they wanted in this country. We also liked The Daily Show and considered him an ally.
Being called the real villains by Stewart wasn’t fun.
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It sounds like Jon Stewart is just misguided, which is a far cry from being actively insane and/or right-wing. I'm pretty sure he has his heart in the right place.
The Daily Show pointing out the horseshit of the Bush administration is one of the reasons I became a liberal instead of a centrist back in my uninquistiive, too cool for politics phase.
Seriously though. Almost every time someone post anything it leads to someone going “well actually you can’t enjoy or look forward to this because of this and this and that”. In a thread discussing movies, it gets fucking exhausting having to take into account every cynical take on a movie.
Seriously though. Almost every time someone post anything it leads to someone going “well actually you can’t enjoy or look forward to this because of this and this and that”. In a thread discussing movies, it gets fucking exhausting having to take into account every cynical take on a movie.
"Hollywood lets a lot of questionable people make a lot questionable shit" isn't really the fault of anyone here
Seriously though. Almost every time someone post anything it leads to someone going “well actually you can’t enjoy or look forward to this because of this and this and that”. In a thread discussing movies, it gets fucking exhausting having to take into account every cynical take on a movie.
"Hollywood lets a lot of questionable people make a lot questionable shit" isn't really the fault of anyone here
Agreed, but considering that that point gets brought up almost every time for a new piece of media it should be pretty obvious by now and maybe does not bear repeating every time.
Seriously though. Almost every time someone post anything it leads to someone going “well actually you can’t enjoy or look forward to this because of this and this and that”. In a thread discussing movies, it gets fucking exhausting having to take into account every cynical take on a movie.
"Hollywood lets a lot of questionable people make a lot questionable shit" isn't really the fault of anyone here
Agreed, but considering that that point gets brought up almost every time for a new piece of media it should be pretty obvious by now and maybe does not bear repeating every time.
Why doesn't it?
Like, not asking rhetorically. Why should a persistent problem not be persistently mentioned and persistently kept in mind? Who benefits when we don't discuss shitty people that profit from us giving them our money?
Seriously though. Almost every time someone post anything it leads to someone going “well actually you can’t enjoy or look forward to this because of this and this and that”. In a thread discussing movies, it gets fucking exhausting having to take into account every cynical take on a movie.
"Hollywood lets a lot of questionable people make a lot questionable shit" isn't really the fault of anyone here
Agreed, but considering that that point gets brought up almost every time for a new piece of media it should be pretty obvious by now and maybe does not bear repeating every time.
We should actually never stop holding problematic people to account.
I guess my point is, the world is a shitty enough place with the orange dictator, a pandemic, global warming etc. that sometimes, you could just let people enjoy and discuss their movies somewhat guilt free.
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Same, we watched AFV for the first time last week (though I haven't seen the first one still), lots of pre-cameos, like Cynthia Nixon as a prospective nanny, and Christine Baranski as the camp leader.
As a first-timer to the Addams Family, I finally get why people are such fans; it's really just a fun, cartoony movie with a great cast, particularly Julia, Huston and Ricci. I could just watch those three doing their thing for hours.
I'm kind of burnt out this year from movies, but Haunting of Bly Manor helped fill the spoopin hole.
it is! raul julia and christopher lloyd specifically are just having a complete blast
julia's delivery on something as simple as "first, the old business!" is just so extra
and addams family values is a thanksgiving movie
so i gotta wait til after halloween to dipping into those two again
It’s a safe issue that can win bipartisan support. Like I said, it is worthy and yes the GOP were the responsible party for denying the aid. There’s nothing wrong with supporting it in isolation.
But it is also the kind of issue that you can support and have a warm conversation with your Fox-loving uncle about. It’s a noncontroversial, appeal to the sane middle, cause that is both genuinely worthy and a part of Stewart’s “The real problem is partisanship” ideology.
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I was coming to post this exact thing. Lol hopefully the format will be different.
He is the definition of ‘enlightenment liberal’
no, it was around when his last movie came out and I watched it
It's more of a dare to find it as I do not think one exists
It’s not so much that he’s a bad person, and more
that he advocates a failed worldview. His response to the GOP going openly toxic was to hold a mass rally that said the problem was extremism on both sides.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_to_Restore_Sanity_and/or_Fear
Like, he literally believed that most of the people on this forum are as bad as Trump supporters because they hold “extreme” views out of step with the “sane” majority.
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He’s Exhibit A that the American entertainment industry is not going to save use.
now I haven't heard any of his more recent opinions on the matter and if he still hasn't changed his outlook then, you know, fuck that. but. I don't know. there's a lot of stuff people didn't see coming 10 years ago, even if they acted like the sort of people who would see it
it's extremely bad!
Now get out there John and do the same shit for the rest of the people who are being ground down in the machine. You should not have to risk life and limb to receive a decent healthcare
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Being called the real villains by Stewart wasn’t fun.
"Hollywood lets a lot of questionable people make a lot questionable shit" isn't really the fault of anyone here
Agreed, but considering that that point gets brought up almost every time for a new piece of media it should be pretty obvious by now and maybe does not bear repeating every time.
Why doesn't it?
Like, not asking rhetorically. Why should a persistent problem not be persistently mentioned and persistently kept in mind? Who benefits when we don't discuss shitty people that profit from us giving them our money?
We should actually never stop holding problematic people to account.
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