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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I get the motive on paper. This last year has sucked for musicians and they're looking for ways to expand the hustle in the absence of live shows and concerts, but fuckin block chain crypto wackadoo bullshit feels so incredibly antithetical the very soul of music that it makes me ill.

    Go get shit on by 300 seagulls again, King of Leons you ass butts.

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Crippl3 wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    So like, and I am not an expert, but it's basically like a block chain? It's a sort of crypto currency but instead of holding monetary value as priced against a dollar amount it has unlockables or access to exclusive items.

    I don't fully understand it but it's been popping off in the art community which is extremely discouraging because (well for one thing I'm a luddite and inherently despise technology) the energy consumption is absolutely obscene.

    the fucking Nyan Cat guy has made two pieces for the NFT site Foundation, and made over $500,000 worth of Etherium cryptocurrency on 2 nyan cat gifs, it's fucking insane

    We're living through the rise of the meme economy and I hate it I hate it so fucking much.

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    Living in the future kinda sucks

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    From what I recall, a fungible good is something like a crate of apples or a ton of rice. Something that is easily, readily exchangeable with something else that is basically the exact same.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    edited March 2021
    But what's to stop someone from like

    Recording the album to a easily distributable format? Just intentionally crash the whole thing

    Tallahasseeriel on
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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    The only solace I get is that one day these people will wake up to find that their 8 billion dollars worth of karate cat coins will have been completely undermined by a SpongeBob midi synthwave token packet and they've lost everything.

    It'll be Black Tuesday every 3 to 5 days with insufferable crypto memers flinging themselves out of buildings left and right as their made up cloud money tanks and skyrockets by the hour.

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    But what's to stop someone from like

    Recording the album to a easily distributable format? Just intentionally crash the whole thing

    I've been reading about this for a week or two now, trying to figure it out

    You're not paying FOR the album or image or video, or whatever. You're paying for, what is basically, a certificate of authenticity, and that also (often) comes with distribution/usage rights. So you're not paying for the new Nyan Cat gif, you're paying to be the guy who paid for the Nyan Cat gif, and then in some cases you get the rights to do whatever you want with it (make copies, make physical copies for your own use, license it to other people for merch or display, etc)

    But yeah that does nothing to stop anyone who just, like, wants to save the gif so the whole thing is complete nonsense lmfao

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    edited March 2021
    Oh

    So they are actually, in a very literal sense, burning the world down

    For the memes?

    100% fuck these people

    Tallahasseeriel on
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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    Living in the future kinda sucks

    at least we're not shitting ourselves to death of dysentery

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    MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    Living in the future kinda sucks

    at least we're not shitting ourselves to death of dysentery

    *looks at how clean water is still out for hundreds of thousands of people in Texas and Mississippi, so their governors "opened the state" back up in the year+ long pandemic as a distraction*

    Yet.

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Also, like, this is Kings of Leon.

    At some point during the discussion somebody should've stopped and said hey, we're Kings of Leon, do we really have the social clout to afford to do something like this and not be ridiculed?

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    QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    Crippl3 wrote: »
    But what's to stop someone from like

    Recording the album to a easily distributable format? Just intentionally crash the whole thing

    I've been reading about this for a week or two now, trying to figure it out

    You're not paying FOR the album or image or video, or whatever. You're paying for, what is basically, a certificate of authenticity, and that also (often) comes with distribution/usage rights. So you're not paying for the new Nyan Cat gif, you're paying to be the guy who paid for the Nyan Cat gif, and then in some cases you get the rights to do whatever you want with it (make copies, make physical copies for your own use, license it to other people for merch or display, etc)

    But yeah that does nothing to stop anyone who just, like, wants to save the gif so the whole thing is complete nonsense lmfao

    That's why it's a luxury item where the exclusivity is the whole point. That fuckin' wu tang album that they made ONE of and because we live in a VERY poorly written novel martin shrikeli bought it. Or just a prada bag, so you can visibly be in the "can afford to buy this fucking bag" club

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Fuckity fuck there is nothing worse than like, knowing you can do a thing and then your brain going lol nah and you keep fucking it up and that leads to you getting more frustrated and fucking up even harder.

    There's a Slash and Miles Kennedy song that's really cool and I got real close to nailing that opening lick (that is absolutely blistering) but there's one little thing that blipped out and it was just an absolutely embarrassing snowball of fucking up from there.

    None of my hobbies are actually hobbies they're things that I must be good at and never screw up lest I be shamed and shunned.

    Just slow it right down to an absolute snail's pace, do it on repeat till your muscles have completely internalised that sequence, then gradually speed it up to tempo. When/if you fuck it, drop the pace back a few notches and drill repeatedly till you can move it up again.
    90% of music performance is grinding.

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I must go fast or I will die I am basically the movie Speed but just a smidgen dumber

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    QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I must go fast or I will die I am basically the movie Speed but just a smidgen dumber

    If you can't play it slow, you can't play it fast. The reverse is also true.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    so you know how each bitcoin transaction requires the power consumption of a small country
    it's literally that but jpegs and mp3s

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    VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    God, all the crypto art bullshit and NFT stuff in general has really gotten under my skin in a way that I was not at all expecting. It’s just so dumb and makes me so angry.

    It probably doesn’t help that my father in law is constantly evangelizing NFT at me any time my drawing comes up in conversation, despite my less than subtle pushbacks.

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Cryptocurrency is something I know is real but my brain absolutely refuses to accept is actually real

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    notyanotya Registered User regular
    the crypto art thing has absorbed all my colleagues (we're artists/animators). And I get it. It's free money. Take a gif you made 3 years ago and sell it for a grand. Or if you're well known, a lot more. Or don't even sell a gif, sell a single illustration. Or a comic. Or anything. And a lot of times, someone will buy it.

    The thing is, every artist I know that has been around for a bit has TONS and TONS of pieces they've made over the years they can put up for sale. If everyone wants to start selling their old catalogue, there will literally be billions of pieces of crypto art online for sale. And obviously, that SHOULD (in a sane world) mean it's not that valuable. But we're not there right now. Right now only a small number of artists are minting their back catalogue. Or making new pieces for this to promote and sell. So clearly the gravy train isn't gonna last much longer.

    Of course whenever I bet on the future of some crypto thing, I'm wrong. So maybe there's just infinite money out there forever for me.

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    Cryptocurrency is something I know is real but my brain absolutely refuses to accept is actually real

    Personally I've put a lot of money into Cryptid currency, and while I've been assured that my Big Foot Bucks are actually real, I'm starting to wonder.

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    GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    Cryptid currency is kind of old school. Leprechaun gold and all.

    This post was sponsored by Tom Cruise.
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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    Cryptocurrency is something I know is real but my brain absolutely refuses to accept is actually real

    Personally I've put a lot of money into Cryptid currency, and while I've been assured that my Big Foot Bucks are actually real, I'm starting to wonder.

    All your bank statements are slightly out of focus so you can't quite see what your balance is?

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    VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    I've already screamed about cryptoart on twitter enough as it is, so I'll try not to harp on after this

    But if anyone is still curious, this is a pretty great and succinct little article that lays out the problems with it all in addition to just the destructive environmental effects.

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    PeasPeas Registered User regular
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    I went through the two articles
    It's probably a good thing that I am too dumb for this

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    Cryptocurrency is something I know is real but my brain absolutely refuses to accept is actually real

    Personally I've put a lot of money into Cryptid currency, and while I've been assured that my Big Foot Bucks are actually real, I'm starting to wonder.

    All your bank statements are slightly out of focus so you can't quite see what your balance is?

    Even my online bank, which I can only access through Netscape Navigator for some reason.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    Living in the future kinda sucks

    at least we're not shitting ourselves to death of dysentery

    Don't give up hope I'm sure we'll all have a chance to die of something old fashioned

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    As long as I don't die of slipping on my fallen-off dick, I'll chalk up a win in the "how I died" category.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    I'm hoping to have an antibiotic proof bacterial infection from a minor wound just eat me alive

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    I'm hoping to have an antibiotic proof bacterial infection from a minor wound just eat me alive

    Being a walking food factory for prokaryotes is an extremely noble way to go.

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    I'm guessing heart failure in my sixties, or lung cancer from being a former smoker.

    Or I get swept out to sea on one of my winter trips.

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I'm just gonna go out into the wilderness one day and fight a bear to the death.

    Like how cats will go off to find a place to die when they get old but instead it's fighting a bear to the death.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Wow this thread took a turn

    Are y'all doing ok?

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    I'm probably gonna die some day.

    Haven't fully made up my mind, though.

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    I'm probably gonna die some day.

    Haven't fully made up my mind, though.

    i encourage it also try to do it on top of someone you hate

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    DidgeridooDidgeridoo Flighty Dame Registered User regular
    Veldrin wrote: »
    I've already screamed about cryptoart on twitter enough as it is, so I'll try not to harp on after this

    But if anyone is still curious, this is a pretty great and succinct little article that lays out the problems with it all in addition to just the destructive environmental effects.

    Thank you for this- I was having a REALLLY hard time wrapping my head around why cryptocurrency/ crypto art is so bad, and was especially not understanding how it could possibly require such massive amounts of energy consumption.

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    honovere wrote: »
    Maybe the white lines a bit thicker than the red lines. In my experience white lines always come out thinner looking than colour lines.

    Yeah, probably. I'll see how the v1 deck printing handles fine lines. I'll also keep fiddling with the monogram, I don't really like what I have right now. Maybe just drop it and do some sort of pattern.

    Alright, I think this is going to be the final v2, at least until I get the v1 decks in and see how they've survived the printing process.
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    You always worry about using runes these days, but that should just be DT in norse runes, beneath Yggdrasil, the life tree.

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    webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Looks awesome. Just the right amount of busy/detailed.

    Steam ID: Webguy20
    Origin ID: Discgolfer27
    Untappd ID: Discgolfer1981
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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Didgeridoo wrote: »
    Veldrin wrote: »
    I've already screamed about cryptoart on twitter enough as it is, so I'll try not to harp on after this

    But if anyone is still curious, this is a pretty great and succinct little article that lays out the problems with it all in addition to just the destructive environmental effects.

    Thank you for this- I was having a REALLLY hard time wrapping my head around why cryptocurrency/ crypto art is so bad, and was especially not understanding how it could possibly require such massive amounts of energy consumption.

    On the currency side, this article is also real good! (Though veldrins link covers some of the same ground)

    https://alexhern.substack.com/p/bitcom-02b

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    So the day after my second Pfizer shot was moderately unpleasant. I ran a low-grade fever the whole time and had the kind of body aches where you can feel all your bones. I took the day off work and just existed in a brain fog until it was time to go back to bed.

    Day three and I feel completely recovered. Although I keep having vivid dreams about throwing away my iPod and buying a Zune, so I think I might have gotten a batch of expired nanites.

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