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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    The rules state that they CAN be dead.

    Also that they CAN be streamers, which is an oddly specific rule. Don't know why that would need to be specified. Like are we worried that Grace Van Dien leaving acting for streaming would disqualify her or something?

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    oh damn, you're right

    this is much easier now

  • Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    edited May 2024
    The rules state that they CAN be dead.

    Also that they CAN be streamers, which is an oddly specific rule. Don't know why that would need to be specified. Like are we worried that Grace Van Dien leaving acting for streaming would disqualify her or something?

    the challenge was originally created by streamer QTCinderella as a joking challenge for other streamers to prove they aren't misogynists:
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    Note there is one more rule not included in that screenshot, caused by streamer Chiblee not remembering Michelle Obama's name and referring to her as Obama's Wife in a famous clip
    I'm pretty sure the whole thing is inspired by this bit:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlCEmPF4-V0

    Crippl3 on
  • NeveronNeveron SwedenRegistered User regular
    The real challenge is less "can you name 100 women", which is kind of more of a baseline Bechdel test-esque thing, and more in how long it takes to name 'em and where your biases lie in who you're picking.

    Here's a statistical analysis of the streamers that got called out in that original post and actually did the test, which is actually kind of interesting despite the dude's delivery:
    A Statistical Analysis of the Name 100 Women Challenge 10:09
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9p1vvddXvI
    And here's a follow-up with more people who did the challenge:
    How Fast Can Women Name 100 Women? - A Statistical Analysis 10:06
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eqfuBlp_WA

    The average time in that small sample size is 26:28, by the way, just in case you want to compare your own results. 30:48 for men, 12:37 for women.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I think my problem is I don't watch a lot of streamers

  • CycloneCyclone Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I think my problem is I don't watch a lot of streamers

    I wouldn't describe that as a problem at all.

  • TubularTubular Registered User regular
    For me, as soon as you say, 'Name 100-" I'm going to blank. 100 is a daunting number, and as soon as you introduce a clock, I'm going to whiff no matter what it is.

    I will say, the original intent is good. I'm always going to approve of exposing/driving out misogyny.

    Give me time, and I can give you a list of anything you want. But on the clock? It's going to be a disaster. I know many things, but I'd still almost certainly absolutely bomb on Jeopardy.

  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    The challenge is mostly from doing it on stream in front of an audience with a timer. That layer of pressure makes people blank out

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  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    When I first heard the task I thought it was 100 truly famous women, dead or alive, which I thought would be pretty tough given I probably couldn't recount 100 truly famous people regardless of gender period. But seeing the listed ruleset allows streamers I realized I have a cheat: I'm big into Vtubers which are a women-dominated field, which means I can regurgitate roughly 90 streamers that would count under those rules.

  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    I could think of 100 women but I doubt I could name them all, but that would be the same with men. It would be like uh uh the woman who plays lorelai on Gilmore girls etc. I’m just really bad with names in general.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    Just did 100 transformers in about 12 minutes. (Might have been less, I forgot to keep count and only had the revision numbers on the document I wrote into) I could have kept going too.

  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    I think the only thing I could name 100 of is pokemon, because there's like a thousand of them

  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    - CAN BE STREAMERS

    oh i can rattle off a hundred vtubers no problem

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    Neveron wrote: »
    The real challenge is less "can you name 100 women", which is kind of more of a baseline Bechdel test-esque thing, and more in how long it takes to name 'em and where your biases lie in who you're picking.

    Here's a statistical analysis of the streamers that got called out in that original post and actually did the test, which is actually kind of interesting despite the dude's delivery:
    A Statistical Analysis of the Name 100 Women Challenge 10:09
    https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=X9p1vvddXvI
    And here's a follow-up with more people who did the challenge:
    How Fast Can Women Name 100 Women? - A Statistical Analysis 10:06
    https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=3eqfuBlp_WA

    The average time in that small sample size is 26:28, by the way, just in case you want to compare your own results. 30:48 for men, 12:37 for women.

    Out of curiosity, I looked at his spreadsheet to see what the least popular categories were. Not much to report on, but I do find it amusing that the only entries for "CEO" are three different misspellings of the name of the CEO of Youtube. (Though to be fair, it is not a common name and I assume they did the challenge without looking up anything.)

  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Out of interest, I just timed myself naming 100 women, and simply having a timer going makes your mind forget everything

    I got to 100 in 13 minutes and 29 seconds, mainly from the world of entertainment with a handful of politicians and Marie Curie doing her bit for the sciences

    10% had variations of Catherine as a first name, interestingly - I think I got into a groove

    Lots of women with links to famous men, too - Janet Jackson, Barbara Bush, Karen Carpenter, Nancy Sinatra, Bindi Irwin

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  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    not being able to name people you know is horseshit. all the people i know are the people i know. if i can only name celebrities then it should be "name 100 fictional people"

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Cate Blanchett isn't real, don't be fucking ridiculous

  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited May 2024
    Judging by timestamps I can do it in about 12 minutes. It is frustrating to be able to picture someone, to say "she's in Garden State and Star Wars!" and not be able to summon the name Natalie Portman.
    1. Marissa Mayer
    2. Janet Reno
    3. Sarah Palin
    4. Sarah Huckabee
    5. Oprah
    6. Kathy Lee
    7. Sofia Vergara
    8. Angelina Jolie
    9. Marylin Monroe
    10. Jackie Kennedy
    11. Alison Brie
    12. Yvette Nicole Brown
    13. Gillian Jacobs
    14. Angela Kinsey
    15. Beyonce
    16. Taylor Swift
    17. Solange Knowles
    18. Aretha Franklin
    19. Donna Summer
    20. Barbara Bush
    21. Michelle Obama
    22. Ivanka Trump
    23. Ivana Trump
    24. Melania Trump
    25. Amy Winehouse
    26. Adele
    27. Idina Menzel
    28. Rikki Lake
    29. Sally Jesse Raphael
    30. June Diane Raphael
    31. Kulap Vilaysak
    32. Suchin Pak
    33. Jessica Hsu
    34. Shern Min Chow
    35. Dominque Sachse
    36. Hannah Storm
    37. Erin Andrews
    38. Holly Rowe
    39. Venus Williams
    40. Serena Williams
    41. Billie Jean King
    42. Caroline Wozniaki
    43. Monica Seles
    44. Maria Sharapova
    45. Coco Gauffe
    46. Vanessa Williams
    47. Emily Blunt
    48. Elizabeth Moss
    49. Kate Moss
    50. Elizabeth Hurley
    51. Heather Graham
    52. Ellen Degeneres
    53. Hoda Kotb
    54. Melissa Joan Hart
    55. Kelly Ripa
    56. Kelly Osborne
    57. Kelly Clarkson
    58. Lisa Left Eye Lopez
    59. Lisa Loeb
    60. Ice Spice
    61. Maria Bamford
    62. Sarah Silverman
    63. Lisa Lampanelli
    64. Margaret Cho
    65. Ali Wong
    66. Rosanne Barr
    67. Rosie O’Donnell
    68. Taylor midnight
    69. Kaley Cuoco
    70. Katy Segal
    71. Kim Kardashian
    72. Khloe Kardashian
    73. Kaitlyn Jenner
    74. Kris Jenner
    75. Kourtney Kardashian
    76. January Jones
    77. Victoria Jackson
    78. Mia Hamm
    79. Julia Roberts
    80. Julia Louis-Dreyfus
    81. Julia Child
    82. Vera Farmiga
    83. Nancy Cartwright
    84. Sharon Stone
    85. Sherry Shepherd
    86. Cheri O’teri
    87. Kristen Wiig
    88. Tina Fey
    89. Amy Pohler
    90. Amy Adams
    91. Sandra Oh
    92. Greta Lee
    93. Greta Gerwig
    94. Greta Garbo
    95. Eva Longoria
    96. Eva Mendes
    97. Kaitlyn Olson
    98. Aubrey Plaza
    99. Mo’nique
    100. Madonna

    captaink on
  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Warning, Dan has gained remote control of the GamerScent.

    Repeat, Dan has gained remote control of the gamerscent.

  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Grubb: “As soon as it starts saying ‘WiFi connected,’ I am so fucked.”

  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited May 2024
    They are now drawing up a treaty regarding the ethical usage of the Gamescent live on air

    Lanz on
  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Watching the latest Demo Derby and the Everquest II devs are animating in Alias Wavefront Maya 3.0 and I'm doing the Leo pointing meme.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Did Voicemail dump truck update for anyone today?

    Its not showing on my feed

  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong

    https://youtu.be/tEeS-Pxc6VY?si=5SptlfvgLEzh90Nh

  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Giantbomb hate for Horizon Zero Dawn is one of the few times I feel like they're really out of touch with the general audience.

    People love that series!

  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Giantbomb hate for Horizon Zero Dawn is one of the few times I feel like they're really out of touch with the general audience.

    People love that series!

    They're secretly robots, you see

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Giantbomb hate for Horizon Zero Dawn is one of the few times I feel like they're really out of touch with the general audience.

    People love that series!

    Horizon's popularity has often felt like (James Cameron's) Avatar popularity, to me. Where it's definitely real, there's clearly an audience that shows up, but there are huge swathes of people who are like, "I choose not to acknowledge the existence of this." An antipathy that manifests as a willful blindspot.

    I wonder where that comes from. I know that for me personally, I'll sometimes take a thing and CHOOSE not to care about it. To say to the relentless hype/discourse apparatus that defines gaming social spaces, "Not this one. Can't make me care about this one." Drawing a boundary, reclaiming some of my time and sanity. Big, expensive genre stuff is often a place where I do that, anything with a marketing push big enough for me to feel like I'm DOING SOMETHING by tuning it out.

    I personally don't trust anyone who's NEVER out of sync with popular opinion, who always just has the consensus opinion. It makes me feel like none of their opinions are really theirs, that they're crowd-sourcing their views. Which is maybe unfair! But I like a little bit of contrarianism, a willingness to go against grains.

    (I also think Horizon sucks, so, it's easier for me to be all abstract and conceptual about all this)

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    They didn't hate Horizon (they gave it 5 stars IIRC), they just didn't feel like it was particularly memorable when it came time for GotY stuff.

    Very much a "I enjoyed it at the time, and then didn't think about it once since then." situation.

  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    I remember that the first Horizon game got eclipsed by Breath of the Wild dropping like a week later, which likely led to it not finding purchase in the consciousness of games journalists/personalities who consume a lot of games as close to release as possible. I didn't pay attention to how the sequel was received, but it feels like it's still in that same place of "oh yeah, that game exists, huh?"

  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Opty wrote: »
    I remember that the first Horizon game got eclipsed by Breath of the Wild dropping like a week later, which likely led to it not finding purchase in the consciousness of games journalists/personalities who consume a lot of games as close to release as possible. I didn't pay attention to how the sequel was received, but it feels like it's still in that same place of "oh yeah, that game exists, huh?"

    Hilariously the second game dropped in the window of Elden Ring so it’s lunch got eaten again

  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    It then came to PC the day before Dragon's Dogma 2 released.

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  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    Horizon is just high quality mid. It's a big AAA open world action game with crafting elements, a good one but also you can't go outside without tripping over 5 of those. It is doomed to forever be "of its time" and probably won't stick out as exceptional or must-play 20 years from now

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    all of sony's big AAA games kind of just group together into The Sony Games, save those with cultural cache outside of games like Spiderman, or the ones that gets the most Prestige push (GoW, TLoU)

    which isn't to say that they're necessarily bad - i play a lot of them and have a good time up until i get bored and don't finish them - but they can just kind of mush together. especially if you're a games journalist guy and the only times strangers talk to you about them is to yell about sony console war stuff

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    GoW also stood out to me specifically due to its revival of an old very famous franchise nature
    I kind of wasn't even aware it was a big sony exclusive though, all of them also coming out on PC has totally eroded any sense I once had of certain titles being exclusives

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    I guess you could consider helldivers 2 a Sony thing?
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    https://www.ign.com/articles/helldivers-2-is-playstations-fastest-selling-game-of-all-time-with-over-12-million-sold-in-12-weeks

    it's been really successful for them

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    yeah it's definitely a sony thing, they funded and own it, but it's one of those playstation exclusives* where it's on steam so it feels like sorta kinda

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    particularly when its most famous news story of late is people telling sony to fuck off

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  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    I think the big Horizon proponent at GB was Vinny.
    The new crew doesn't really play any of the big open world games apart from Spider-Man. Ragnarok went mostly undiscussed (Though Dan gave GoW 2018 5 stars). Nobody plays Ubi games. (Alex was the only one who touched those, and Vinny some Division 2 iirc).
    It's partly the nature of their work, they need to discuss games every week so you can't spend a month farming sidequests in Valhalla. Part is that the current crew aren't really attracted to these games anyway.

    Still, it came up in the GB Discord and I looked at the numbers, Horizon 1 sold around 25m copies up to 2023, 8m in it first 6 months. Horizon 2 sold around 8 in 12 months, no new numbers since a year ago. Those are pretty serious numbers, but there may a Rebirth problem there, where the sequel is much bigger and more expensive to make, but sells less.

    I like the combat part of Horizon even though in 2 it's definitely overcomplicated for no reason apart from making the game big. It's also crazy to me how poor all the loot interactions are in a $200m AAA game, there are so many items and drops and you use almost none of it, because you are always limited by drops from machines that only exist on certain high end parts of the map. If you look at guides, they almost all advice to beeline to a certain vendor and buy a few weapons, then complete boring side activities for 2 legendaries, use that mix to do the Arena then never upgrade them much because by the time you can farm the mats you are already strong enough to beat the game, and the DLC has better once you start it. And NG+ has upgraded tiers of weapons, so farming endgame is pointless. The whole core of the gameplay crafting loop is undercut by its balancing. Or a simple thing about how to upgrade some pouches you have to go swim after fishes that swim at 97% of your swimspeed, who has fun holding forward for a minute until a "Press Y" prompt appears. Oh and you need 3 40% drops, so that's 9 fish on average for 4 extra arrows.

    Storywise it has many quite interesting elements which makes the native-american cosplay aspect of it a Problem. It was a bad idea when they started it in 2013 as a Dutch company and it hasn't gotten better since. The fact that they're currently shopping it in Hollywood seems insane to me.

    And it's a real shame because the idea of 'tech bro screwed up the world to total ecological collapse, and a last minute hail mary was to create an artificial ecosystem with machine animals (who clean up the mess until humans can be reawakened), but because of further fuckery the humans don't know this' is a really cool hook.


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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Most of current GB falls asleep if anyone talks in a game for more than five consecutive seconds

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