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Metroidvanias - Finest of all Genres

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    Some of these puzzles too get collectibles are harder than the boss

    Absolutely.

    There's at least two shinespark puzzles that I could eventually get, but the wear and tear on my hands isn't worth the attempts.

    I would agree but I'm so close to 100% at this point I'm pretty deep into sunk cost fallacy territory and feel compelled to keep trying.

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    Yessss

    100% items gotten

    Except the amiibo crap

    I'm not buying any amiibo

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    SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    I don't think it's been mentioned before and I think it's unlikely that anyone runs into it, but there is a single legitimate softlock in this game.

    After the mid-game cinematic/exposition, you are supposed to fight enemies in the next room. If you fight them and lose but then do not challenge them again and instead leave and go to the next nav room, the path forward does not open and won't open even if you go back and kill those enemies.

    More specifically with spoilers
    After the cinematic with Quiet Robe, you need to kill the Chozo robots right after before leaving. In other words, you need to defeat the Robot Chozo Soldiers before receiving the briefing from ADAM that unlocks Burenia.

    Fortunately, it should be an easy patch for the devs that hopefully comes soon.

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular

    This took me like the entire runtime of the mst3k episode werewolf

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    luckily that is the worst one, so you've done the worst one.

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    I've done all of them now

    Now I just have to beat the boss again and see if I get anything cool

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I'm about to go up and face the final boss.

    Calling my shot here:
    I am guessing ADAM is really just Raven Beak. He has been....weirdly obsessed with Raven Beak this entire time. "Clearly that is Raven Beak doing that." Really dude? You're a robot who can't see everything and this is an alien planet. I don't buy it. Plus the weird thing about "huh dunno why you were spared anyway lets go on"

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2021
    Final boss
    hey I called it and OHSHIT HE HAS A SECOND PHASE

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited October 2021
    a couple of the shinespark puzzles got easier when I learned you can do the slide move without breaking speed boost
    there's one in particular I don't think you can do without knowing that

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    edited October 2021
    a couple of the shinespark puzzles got easier when I learned you can do the slide move without breaking speed boost
    there's one in particular I don't think you can do without knowing that

    The bottom of Ferenia?

    I just did that one, it was a fuckin walk in the park compared to that one I posted.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2021
    That one uriel posted was exactly the one I was thinking of, except at the time I didn't realize you could slide with the speed boost also.

    Also also, final boss:
    JESUS CHRIST HE HAS A THIRD PHASE?!

    EDIT: Well, time to take a break for a while because this is hurting my hand.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited October 2021
    Beat the game, 100%, clear time 11:23.

    Spoilers
    First, that was a really good final boss. It's in a running for the best bosses of the series.
    Second, I love Samus just losing her shit and screaming as she fucking murders Raven Beak.
    Third, with Dread I guess the heroine of Metroid really is Metroid now. A Metroid, at least.

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    IblisIblis Registered User regular
    That one uriel posted was exactly the one I was thinking of, except at the time I didn't realize you could slide with the speed boost also.

    Also also, final boss:
    JESUS CHRIST HE HAS A THIRD PHASE?!

    EDIT: Well, time to take a break for a while because this is hurting my hand.

    Final Boss Spoilers:
    After beating his second phase I was really dreading dying in the third since the second takes so long. Thankfully it isn’t too different than phase 1. He does some new shit, but it mostly breaks down to parrying him.

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    edited October 2021
    Iblis wrote: »
    That one uriel posted was exactly the one I was thinking of, except at the time I didn't realize you could slide with the speed boost also.

    Also also, final boss:
    JESUS CHRIST HE HAS A THIRD PHASE?!

    EDIT: Well, time to take a break for a while because this is hurting my hand.

    Final Boss Spoilers:
    After beating his second phase I was really dreading dying in the third since the second takes so long. Thankfully it isn’t too different than phase 1. He does some new shit, but it mostly breaks down to parrying him.

    Final boss
    the second phase isn't actually that bad I think, he only has 4 attacks. The difficult one being the rapid fire one. Just space jump around him though. The dash you can just slide under and the rest are just the regular Dodge move. Once you get them down is pretty fast to just unload on him with swarm missiles. I just beat him taking no damage on his second phase. The third gets me more because of the stupid sun attack

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    SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Iblis wrote: »
    That one uriel posted was exactly the one I was thinking of, except at the time I didn't realize you could slide with the speed boost also.

    Also also, final boss:
    JESUS CHRIST HE HAS A THIRD PHASE?!

    EDIT: Well, time to take a break for a while because this is hurting my hand.

    Final Boss Spoilers:
    After beating his second phase I was really dreading dying in the third since the second takes so long. Thankfully it isn’t too different than phase 1. He does some new shit, but it mostly breaks down to parrying him.

    Final boss
    the second phase isn't actually that bad I think, he only has 4 attacks. The difficult one being the rapid fire one. Just space jump around him though. The dash you can just slide under and the rest are just the regular Dodge move. Once you get them down is pretty fast to just unload on him with swarm missiles. I just beat him taking no damage on his second phase. The third gets me more because of the stupid sun attack
    You can power bomb it.

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    God damnit

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    IblisIblis Registered User regular
    More final boss
    Oh yeah, his second phase isn’t too bad once you’ve got how to dodge his stuff down. Just took a hot minute. Thankfully I beat his third phase my first try.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    My issue is mainly my hands.

    I have the patterns down pretty well I think, I just need to let them recover because this game is hell on my hands.

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    AvalonGuardAvalonGuard Registered User regular
    My favorite EMMI moment so far:
    Ever been outwitted by an AI? Goddamn.

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    NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    SirToasty wrote: »
    Iblis wrote: »
    That one uriel posted was exactly the one I was thinking of, except at the time I didn't realize you could slide with the speed boost also.

    Also also, final boss:
    JESUS CHRIST HE HAS A THIRD PHASE?!

    EDIT: Well, time to take a break for a while because this is hurting my hand.

    Final Boss Spoilers:
    After beating his second phase I was really dreading dying in the third since the second takes so long. Thankfully it isn’t too different than phase 1. He does some new shit, but it mostly breaks down to parrying him.

    Final boss
    the second phase isn't actually that bad I think, he only has 4 attacks. The difficult one being the rapid fire one. Just space jump around him though. The dash you can just slide under and the rest are just the regular Dodge move. Once you get them down is pretty fast to just unload on him with swarm missiles. I just beat him taking no damage on his second phase. The third gets me more because of the stupid sun attack
    You can power bomb it.

    Yeah, I learned this one the hard way
    Was getting to P3 and was running out of missiles so I was trying to Power bomb the tracker orb. Sun orb was up at the same time and when it went away and dropped a ton of missile ammo I swore so loud my roommate asked if I had cut myself.

    Anyway, game is great, gonna attempt hard mode this weekend for fun (or try to get a quick normal time first).

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    remember powerbomb early, powerbomb often

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    PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited October 2021
    How much glee do you think Mercury Steam got whenever they placed those blocks that crumble under your weight

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    all metroid game development is fueled by developer glee at all the unwitting fools who are going to fall into a hole

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    This game was so obviously handled by people who loathe Other M and I love it for that.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    i can't read what you just typed munkus

    loathe what?

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2021
    Gundi wrote: »
    i can't read what you just typed munkus

    loathe what?

    babies. or a single one

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    i can't read what you just typed munkus

    loathe what?

    T H E B A B Y

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    I said it in the music thread but I'll say it here

    Why the music bad

    Metroid has always had a reliable suite of bangers, and this one was like... meh.

    I suppose if something was going to be sub-par, the music is probably the least offensive thing, but I was jacked when I heard the modernized intro theme in the first preview.

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    SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Yeah the music was fairly unremarkable but it also wasn't distracting in any way. It all fit the environment and matched the energy levels of the moment which, in my opinion, is the priority for a game like this. Metroid has historically been more focused on atmosphere than jams although they have managed to accomplish both on many occasions. Contrast this with part of Prime 3 where one of the songs for an area sounded like I was about to die at literally any moment no matter what was happening and there weren't even any boss fights. Very distracting despite it being a decent tune. I did find myself humming one of the tunes from Dread immediately after turning the game off but I can't remember it now.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Came back, beat the boss in 3 tries after that.

    What a great game, I don't think I've felt this badass in a final fight since fuckin Sekiro.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Like seriously, I don't think I've seen a metroid game nail my platonic ideal of Samus so hard as this game right here.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Metroid Dread- Samus got cold cocked and since then her day has been getting worse and she is just not having any of it

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Samus constantly gives off a “This dumb motherfucker is gonna make me kill his ass” vibe and I am here for it

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    i can't read what you just typed munkus

    loathe what?

    T H E B A B Y

    *blood starts coming out nose*

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    SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Samus walks into mysterious lair, alert and ready for action.

    Kraid appears.

    "Oh this motherfucker again?"

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    SirToasty wrote: »
    The best part of ADAM is

    (BIG SPOILERS AHEAD)
    It's not even ADAM past the conversation on the elevator. After referring to Samus as Lady in the intro segments, ADAM always refers to her as Samus once she's underground. Also makes a point of noting how handsome and powerful Raven Beak is and that she would never be a worthy opponent. The hints are all there for the fakeout and yet you just kinda roll with it.

    Memery, endgame spoilers
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    SirToasty wrote: »
    The best part of ADAM is

    (BIG SPOILERS AHEAD)
    It's not even ADAM past the conversation on the elevator. After referring to Samus as Lady in the intro segments, ADAM always refers to her as Samus once she's underground. Also makes a point of noting how handsome and powerful Raven Beak is and that she would never be a worthy opponent. The hints are all there for the fakeout and yet you just kinda roll with it.

    Memery, endgame spoilers
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    Oh damn.
    I didn’t realize until now but….yeah, he calls her Samus every time but ADAM calls her Lady during the intro. Good foreshadowing.

    Though honestly the huge boner he had for Raven Beak was pretty much a dead give away.

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    SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    SirToasty wrote: »
    The best part of ADAM is

    (BIG SPOILERS AHEAD)
    It's not even ADAM past the conversation on the elevator. After referring to Samus as Lady in the intro segments, ADAM always refers to her as Samus once she's underground. Also makes a point of noting how handsome and powerful Raven Beak is and that she would never be a worthy opponent. The hints are all there for the fakeout and yet you just kinda roll with it.

    Memery, endgame spoilers
    qkf3ntzn0ow7.png

    Oh damn.
    I didn’t realize until now but….yeah, he calls her Samus every time but ADAM calls her Lady during the intro. Good foreshadowing.

    Though honestly the huge boner he had for Raven Beak was pretty much a dead give away.
    A buddy of mine saw Raven Beak take his shirt off in the shower and he said that Raven Beak had an 8-pack. That Raven Beak was shredded. ...

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    Rear Admiral ChocoRear Admiral Choco I wanna be an owl, Jerry! Owl York CityRegistered User regular
    Just beat it tonight

    Excellent end boss, holy shit

    The ending sequence was fine but the boss itself was something else
    loved Samus just going apeshit at the end of the fight proper before the crash and escape sequence

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    Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    Dread endgame spoilers:
    I was SO ready to give Adam shit for the "Embrace helplessness" line, but they went and pulled a sneaky on me. Replaying the beginning of the game, they really make him say "Lady" 2 or 3 times to emphasize the difference, I really should have picked up on that.

    Although I guess the REAL giveaway is that the big bad of the game apparently actually cares about the dangers of superheated areas.

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