[DEATHLOOP] - The newest 0451-em-up by Arkane

Crippl3

DEATHLOOP is a game about a man, Colt, trapped in a time loop in which he must kill the 8 leaders of Blackreef Isle, to break the loop and escape.
What this means, is lots of sneakin', lots of shootin', lots of kickin', and lots of reading notes to find door codesin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8phmhAoxeIs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKVqwEsw4Uo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4cIxjwM4hU

The game rules so far, feel free to talk about it here.
(And if you're still confused as to what Deathloop is, click here for more info)

Grey Ghost

I have this game and I keep trying to find time to play it but people keep INTERRUPTING ME

I'm still in the tutorial bits but I can FEEL the potential, I can TASTE it

cursedking

I feel like the tutorial is a mite too long, but i am really enjoying it so far. the shooting feels kind of...weird, though. I don't know how to describe it. it feels...soft?

Poorochondriac

Man, this game is such a gift

I could never bring myself to play Prey/Dishonored sloppy and reckless, I just couldn't do it. Had to be careful and methodical and find every little thing and be perfect

But this one doesn't let me do that, and so I'm playing in a way I NEVER would have on my own, and it fucking rules. I keep being stunned by how far I can get by the seat of my pants, it's so exhilarating

Lalabox

i love colt

he's such a mouthy dumbass

captaink

Yeah as long as I have the drop on the bad guys, I feel pretty confident starting a fight. But if I don't, or if there's 6 where I thought there were 3, I get in trouble.

Contrasted with other stealth and Arkane games where I either ghost through or meticulously peel guys off one by one. Sometimes you just need to get in there and use Nexus, throw a grenade, and run for cover.

Crippl3

I hated the Pepper Mill for so long
And then I got a purple Pepper Mill with bleed damage, and an accuracy trinket

Opinion: CHANGED

cursedking

question about Slabs:

can you eventually infuse them, or are they always reset after the loop?

Also, are infused guns infused forever, or just for that loop?

Crippl3

cursedking wrote: »

question about Slabs:

can you eventually infuse them, or are they always reset after the loop?

Also, are infused guns infused forever, or just for that loop?

Yes, and forever

cursedking

Ok so a further question about Juliana, speculation by me based on the first real encounter with her

So has she also been killing several of the visionaries in order to get their slabs?

sarukun

This looks like a neat game I should probably buy.

Hey folks who like this game, why should I buy this game?

Olivaw

cursedking wrote: »

I feel like the tutorial is a mite too long, but i am really enjoying it so far. the shooting feels kind of...weird, though. I don't know how to describe it. it feels...soft?

I feel like this is an Arkane thing, because I felt exactly the same about Prey and Dishonored, especially Dishonored which this game feels most similar to in terms of movin’ around

Something about the shooting just feels… soft is a good word for it, even though the sound design is meaty and the kick is serious the guns feels a little like toys

Maybe there needs to be more screenshake, maybe there’s something about the way they animate, I really don’t know but it doesn’t feel as good as a dedicated shooter somehow

It’s a really really minor issue because again that sound design is great and frankly I think most of the guns feel nice, it’s just odd

Indie Winter

I love Colt's dialog; an FPS protagonist who is primarily sick of this damn shit but is also human enough to gloat or sneer or be silly enough to try to name his gun is something many games dont get quite right - they tend to hammer in YOUR SHOOTMAN'S PERSONALITY IS THIS AND THIS ALONE and that's it. Not that Colt seems like some deeply intricate individual but at least he's got layers, which is sonething

Olivaw

Indie Winter wrote: »

I love Colt's dialog; an FPS protagonist who is primarily sick of this damn shit but is also human enough to gloat or sneer or be silly enough to try to name his gun is something many games dont get quite right - they tend to hammer in YOUR SHOOTMAN'S PERSONALITY IS THIS AND THIS ALONE and that's it. Not that Colt seems like some deeply intricate individual but at least he's got layers, which is sonething

He has more than one note, which makes him at minimum twice as compelling as any other FPS shootman

It helps that the dialogue in this game is legit funny, which is so rare for comedy in games of this genre and scale! I was very pleasantly surprised

Indie Winter

I also appreciate Arkane's continuing dedication to filling their game with lots and lots and lots of in-fiction branding and visual designs

I want to get a sniper rifle just so I can get a better zoom in on all those bottle labels

Indie Winter

colt's personality is based off of this vine

https://youtu.be/leeP6LgM8H0

Lalabox

i've only done the morning of my first freeform loop, but im genuinely curious what speedrun routing for this game is gonna look like

how much of the scripted game are speedrunners gonna need to play before they can break things

Indie Winter

unlocked the power station controls

oh so it's not just weird science, we got some alternate history up in the setting too? some kind of bizarro-russia maybe?

Grey Ghost

Until I see specific evidence to the contrary I'm going to believe this is set in the future of the Dishonored universe because that's fun for me to do

Crippl3

Grey Ghost wrote: »

Until I see specific evidence to the contrary I'm going to believe this is set in the future of the Dishonored universe because that's fun for me to do

"Shall we gather for Fiz-Pop and hard drugs tonight?"
"Never doubt it."

captaink

Lalabox wrote: »

i've only done the morning of my first freeform loop, but im genuinely curious what speedrun routing for this game is gonna look like

how much of the scripted game are speedrunners gonna need to play before they can break things

It seems like you have to do some/all of the stuff that lets you kill more than 1 person per time period. Some of that is just codes, though, so maybe if you memorize the key ones?

So far on maximizing my killing efficiently I've got:

I've found that Charlie and Fia get together in the afternoons for some bangin'
If I set things up at the fireworks shack earlier, Frank will immolate himself with fireworks at night.
It seems like Harriet really is only available in her morning timeslot, so that fixes you at Karl's Bay for the morning.

So I assume you fix it so you visit each location once in day, and either kill 2+ or set up a 'passive' kill.

captaink

Charlie's Invader game mystery:

I found 5 batteries and stuck them in the various sockets in the rocket ship. It made a noise but I can't see that it did anything else. What is supposed to happen?

cursedking

captaink wrote: »

Charlie's Invader game mystery:

I found 5 batteries and stuck them in the various sockets in the rocket ship. It made a noise but I can't see that it did anything else. What is supposed to happen?

I don’t know what it does but I do know

You have to talk to 2bit to make it work

captaink

cursedking wrote: »

captaink wrote: »

Charlie's Invader game mystery:

I found 5 batteries and stuck them in the various sockets in the rocket ship. It made a noise but I can't see that it did anything else. What is supposed to happen?

I don’t know what it does but I do know

You have to talk to 2bit to make it work

I couldn't find 2bit. Is it in the sound booth on the 3rd or 4th floor? When I got there, the doors were sealed.

cursedking

captaink wrote: »

cursedking wrote: »

captaink wrote: »

Charlie's Invader game mystery:

I found 5 batteries and stuck them in the various sockets in the rocket ship. It made a noise but I can't see that it did anything else. What is supposed to happen?

I don’t know what it does but I do know

You have to talk to 2bit to make it work

I couldn't find 2bit. Is it in the sound booth on the 3rd or 4th floor? When I got there, the doors were sealed.

It’s whatever is called the command deck with all the Star Trek panels and stuff. There’s an antenna over the door you can hack to open it, or there was for me. It has two doors on either side

Indie Winter

oh man you guys, I tried my hand at multiplayer and I suuuuuck

but guess what

you level up enough, you get to unlock new skins for Colt and Julianna, some of which are ballin'

Grey Ghost

The only reason I'm at all interested in playing as Julianna is for the skins

Zxerol

When I got invaded the first time, they camped the target, and I was downed twice wondering what the hell was going on before I tracked them down and put some bullets into their face. But it ended up a double kill, so they got credit for killing me and I lost the entire day.

I then went into the menu and turned on single-player mode.

3cl1ps3

Yeah I don't think I'll ever turn off single player mode, the potentially cool invades are not worth the inevitable griefers.

Grey Ghost

What determines how far back Reprise puts you when you die?

Peewi

I got up to the point where multiplayer unlocks and now I'm trying to invade someone.

Matchmaking doesn't exactly seem fast.

Crippl3

Think I just found one of the most useful guns in the game and it's super easy to get in the morning

There's a purple silenced LIMP-10 in Egon's office/bedroom in the Complex, right in front of the right-side spawn door. If you have Shift, you can just shift into the window, through the alarm beams, without causing any alarms. There's also a ceiling vent.

Azraith

Just starting out, on the mission where you go to the Complex to learn about Infusion.

Did you know that if you have the infusion collector thing, and you accidentally fall into the water after killing all the duplicate Wenjies, you'll respawn but the collector is still at the bottom of the water?

Olivaw

Azraith wrote: »

Just starting out, on the mission where you go to the Complex to learn about Infusion.

Did you know that if you have the infusion collector thing, and you accidentally fall into the water after killing all the duplicate Wenjies, you'll respawn but the collector is still at the bottom of the water?

That seems like something I would report to the devs somehow, as that is a frustrating thing I can see happening to many people!

3cl1ps3

It will never not be enjoyable to boot someone off a cliff.

Azraith

Olivaw wrote: »

Azraith wrote: »

Just starting out, on the mission where you go to the Complex to learn about Infusion.

Did you know that if you have the infusion collector thing, and you accidentally fall into the water after killing all the duplicate Wenjies, you'll respawn but the collector is still at the bottom of the water?

That seems like something I would report to the devs somehow, as that is a frustrating thing I can see happening to many people!

They literally have a discovery card for it, with Colt essentially saying "Oops, fucked that up, guess I'll have to wait until next Loop to do that again.", so I'm pretty sure they're aware of it.

Indie Winter

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the two nerds actually roleplay-flirting their positions on the planet surface floor like it's a Star Trek episode... I always feel bad when I kill them

Lalabox

in the early game after things first open up, definitely seems like the strategy is to go after powers to infuse them

maybe a gun as well

cant wait until i can do some really chaotic stuff

Grey Ghost

I think I've got a bug where I can't infuse stuff at the end of the day

The interface opens and I can put the cursor over items to do the infuse/sacrifice thing but the button prompts don't show and hitting X just makes a little "nope" noise

I have... a lot of shit from this run I don't wanna lose

Edit: the prompts don't show but I can still infuse or sacrifice. I just can't see how much anything will cost

Edit again: yeah even going into the next day my menus are all jacked up. Gonna try a restart

Speed Racer

I know some folks were worried about grieving from invaders but honestly the deck is stacked HEAVILY in colt's favor, since he has to die 3 times for you to win

Grey Ghost

I'm invading a friend's game and it's STILL taking forever to matchmake