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    SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Life, uh, find a way.

    And, uh...

    Well, there it is.

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    avatar 2 will make a bajillion dollars

    I hope it falls down the stairs, lands face first into a turd, then catches fire.

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    oh i don't like avatar very much and would love james cameron to do anything else. but those blue cat people are gunna shit gold

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    I'd rather he throw a tiny percentage of that cash at Robert Rodriguez and continue Battle Angel Alita.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    I think that movie looks dull beyond measure, but betting against James Cameron feels like a real easy way to lose money

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    oh i don't like avatar very much and would love james cameron to do anything else. but those blue cat people are gunna shit gold

    Disney gonna muscle everyone else out of the theater and people gonna go just because there’s nothing else to see

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Jokes on the mob, I don’t have any money.

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    Gustav wrote: »
    oh i don't like avatar very much and would love james cameron to do anything else. but those blue cat people are gunna shit gold

    Disney gonna muscle everyone else out of the theater and people gonna go just because there’s nothing else to see

    hell i dont think that's even necessary for it to make a bajillion dollars, but they are sure gunna do that too

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    like it's the combined might of disney and james cameron, how do you even bet against it

    what argument is there to make

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Yeesh, Disney does own Avatar now, don't they? I guess Alita too, by association.
    (Alita is far from the greatest film ever, but it's vastly more interesting than Avatar.)

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    like it's the combined might of disney and james cameron, how do you even bet against it

    what argument is there to make

    My plan was to gesticulate wildly and just shout “really!?!” over and over again, why, do you think that won’t be convincing?

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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Alita was too overstuffed with plot and "edgy 90s future sports that don't actually work" for me. It felt like they smashed at least two movies into the run time so I never felt like you get to just sit in the world.

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    watched Dead Heat yesterday on a lark. hell of a squib movie. doing a buddy cop movie where one of the detectives can't die and just becomes a perpetual squib machine rules.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    like it's the combined might of disney and james cameron, how do you even bet against it

    what argument is there to make

    Look it's real simple

    This is the wrong kind of largely-CG movie meant to sell merchandise, the wrong kind of childish story pitched to the cheap seats, the wrong kind of cross-platform IP. Even the nostalgia is all wrong - nostalgia for James Cameron movies? Who would have that? Nice try jerkwads.

    This is a wholly unique failure of imagination, completely unlike how the rest of the blockbuster industry functions, obviously. Can't believe you can't see it.

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    watched Dead Heat yesterday on a lark. hell of a squib movie. doing a buddy cop movie where one of the detectives can't die and just becomes a perpetual squib machine rules.

    Love that movie, that butcher shop scene was amazing.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    watched Dead Heat yesterday on a lark. hell of a squib movie. doing a buddy cop movie where one of the detectives can't die and just becomes a perpetual squib machine rules.

    it's a movie that understands that there is nothing funnier than great violence being visited upon joe piscopo and runs with it

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Alita was too overstuffed with plot and "edgy 90s future sports that don't actually work" for me. It felt like they smashed at least two movies into the run time so I never felt like you get to just sit in the world.

    It was an ambitious mess, but at least it had ambition, more than I can say for Avatar.

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    If nobody cares about Avatar how do you explain Jenny?

    Happiness is within reach!
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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    I feel like there's a large enough gulf between "not successful" and "avatar 1 money" that is not outlandish to expect avatar 2 to land somwhere between them. It'll be successful enough to keep pumping them out, but I'm skeptical that it'll reach anywhere near the heights if Avatar 1. It's a different world today than it was then. Even the MCU only had one mega success like that and it took then over a decade of build-up to get there.

    Avatar 2 clears a billion, no problem. I have doubts it reaches 2 billion.

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    Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    edited May 2022
    At the showing of Dr Strange 2 I went to this weekend, that Avatar 2 trailer played. It landed with a thud. No reaction. Bob's Burgers got laughs and some chatter afterwards. Top Gun got a response. Avatar 2 got nothing. From a crowd you'd think would be in Avatar 2's Venn diagram.

    It's like it found the magic point where it's too late and the iron is completely cold, and yet it hasn't been so long that people have nostalgia to warm the iron with.

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    I think it's gunna be in spitting distance of Avatar 1 if not beyond it.

    actually think the distance from the first Avatar is gunna be in Avatar 2's favor. feels like an event again. diminishing returns hit on the subsequent sequels if anywhere.

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    N1tSt4lkerN1tSt4lker Registered User regular
    the 'avatar' was essentially just a Na'vi body that they dropped that dude's mind into, so I guess he could have a kid.

    I like that there's a feral human living with them, who apparently still needs the mask to breathe, which is a bummer.

    Is that? It looks like a child. I was assuming that was his child since it's definitely a human but living with them. I watched that "this family stays together" bit again, and I'm pretty sure the trailer wants you to assume that's their child? But that would mean his human form fathered the child which is why I was confused. So basically what I'm saying is that trailer is confusing as hell! But it is pretty. And there's water.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Something that I have observed anecdotally, mostly abroad but to an occasional, lesser extent here: There's a specific type of person who behaves as though they are personally insulted by Avatar's success. Like they can't believe that something they don't like is popular.

    They've become so accustomed to having their tastes catered to, they've spent so long at the exact center of the current media landscape, that they are offended by this aberration. This one thing got popular without their help or approval, and they hate that. They're supposed to be the arbiters and beneficiaries of popular culture, how the hell did somebody get by them?

    It reminds me of the outsized animus that people held for disco, or boy bands, or Twilight. "People like that?! But I don't like that!! What the fuck!!!!!"

    I think the first movie traffics in colonialist, anti-Native tropes, and I think it sucks shit, but I think the energy people put into hating Avatar for being "undeservedly" popular is so fucking weird. Just well and truly bizarre.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited May 2022
    No, he's talking about the adult humans running around in facemasks and loinclothes in that trailer. Likely one of the humans who defected to the Navi but didn't have a cool Avatar body to get transfered into.

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    edited May 2022
    I think there is also a factor of people not remembering that blockbusters have existed that didn't have immediate sequel hooks. When Avatar ends there isn't like a big neon flashing to be continued. It wraps up in a pretty nice bow. Clearly it has sequel potential, but it doesn't spur the online conversations like a marvel movie. So online folks mistake the lack of endless speculation of casting or adaptation choices as apathy from general audiences.

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    CristovalCristoval Registered User regular
    There's a person who continues to drive a truck around my city which is absolutely caked in Neytiri vinyl decal fanart and this just must be the absolute best day for them. So I'm glad they are getting a win at least.

    As for me the uh... hm, the music in the trailer was real pretty I guess?

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    Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    My personal stance on Avatar 2 is "It better have a character as belligerently villainous as Stephen Lang in the first one". He was the only part of the movie that I still actively remember.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I think that movie looks dull beyond measure, but betting against James Cameron feels like a real easy way to lose money

    Never count out touchdown tom James Cameron

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited May 2022
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Alita was too overstuffed with plot and "edgy 90s future sports that don't actually work" for me. It felt like they smashed at least two movies into the run time so I never felt like you get to just sit in the world.

    They did sort of graft parts of two separate story arcs from the manga together for the movie

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    ChallChall Registered User regular
    My personal stance on Avatar 2 is "It better have a character as belligerently villainous as Stephen Lang in the first one". He was the only part of the movie that I still actively remember.

    His robot had a big knife

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    Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    "I watched Avatar 1 in theaters opening weekend and will not watch Avatar 2, 3, 4 or 5 in theaters, if at all" is the extent of my thoughts post-that trailer

    Also post-watching Avatar 1 in theaters opening weekend, tbh

    I don't think it'll do anything to hinder its success (nor am I doubting its success) but hey, $20 less than it'd have made otherwise and I'm sure I'll find something else to watch during that time instead. Worst case, I wait a few weeks in December and see Babylon on Xmas weekend

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Something that I have observed anecdotally, mostly abroad but to an occasional, lesser extent here: There's a specific type of person who behaves as though they are personally insulted by Avatar's success. Like they can't believe that something they don't like is popular.

    They've become so accustomed to having their tastes catered to, they've spent so long at the exact center of the current media landscape, that they are offended by this aberration. This one thing got popular without their help or approval, and they hate that. They're supposed to be the arbiters and beneficiaries of popular culture, how the hell did somebody get by them?

    It reminds me of the outsized animus that people held for disco, or boy bands, or Twilight. "People like that?! But I don't like that!! What the fuck!!!!!"

    I think the first movie traffics in colonialist, anti-Native tropes, and I think it sucks shit, but I think the energy people put into hating Avatar for being "undeservedly" popular is so fucking weird. Just well and truly bizarre.

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    Doodmann wrote: »
    Alita was too overstuffed with plot and "edgy 90s future sports that don't actually work" for me. It felt like they smashed at least two movies into the run time so I never felt like you get to just sit in the world.

    It was an ambitious mess, but at least it had ambition, more than I can say for Avatar.

    I also liked Alita, but then again I found Green Hornet alright, so maybe I have bad taste

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    GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    N1tSt4lker wrote: »
    the 'avatar' was essentially just a Na'vi body that they dropped that dude's mind into, so I guess he could have a kid.

    I like that there's a feral human living with them, who apparently still needs the mask to breathe, which is a bummer.

    Is that? It looks like a child. I was assuming that was his child since it's definitely a human but living with them. I watched that "this family stays together" bit again, and I'm pretty sure the trailer wants you to assume that's their child? But that would mean his human form fathered the child which is why I was confused. So basically what I'm saying is that trailer is confusing as hell! But it is pretty. And there's water.

    It is, and I'm paraphrasing an interview with the producer I read in Empire Magazine while on the shitter, a kid who was born on the base/planet and then ran away and lived like "tarzan" (his words) and was taken in by the main characters from the first movie, giving the movie "a parallel to real life mixed race couples" (his words).

    In addition to what I'm sure will be a very moving examination of interracial relationships, the movie will apparently also feature underwater crab mechs.

    This post was sponsored by Tom Cruise.
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    AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
    Full trailer for Decision To Leave

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aMHyTqvIvU

    Gimme

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    CristovalCristoval Registered User regular
    My personal stance on Avatar 2 is "It better have a character as belligerently villainous as Stephen Lang in the first one". He was the only part of the movie that I still actively remember.

    My only real memory was taking my Cree friend along to see it, and she just burst the fuck out laughing when Michelle Rodrigues shows up with her war-painted helicopter near the end, and then telling me to "never take her to a movie like that again" when it was all over.

    Good times.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    AtomicTofu wrote: »
    Full trailer for Decision To Leave

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aMHyTqvIvU

    Gimme

    Oh man, there are some shots in there. That cliff!

    ...I should rewatch The Handmaiden, god that movie ruled

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    GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    My personal stance on Avatar 2 is "It better have a character as belligerently villainous as Stephen Lang in the first one". He was the only part of the movie that I still actively remember.

    He's back! In pog form! Playing the same character again. I think? I zoned out after reading about the Tarzan child and the crab mechs.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    AtomicTofu wrote: »
    Full trailer for Decision To Leave

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aMHyTqvIvU

    Gimme

    Oh man, there are some shots in there. That cliff!

    ...I should rewatch The Handmaiden, god that movie ruled

    To chat more because I am excited:

    I know it's just a trailer, but it feels like he's operating in his looser, bigger, more experimental mode - closer to a Sympathy for Lady Vengeance than a Handmaiden.

    I like that mode from him a lot - I have a lot of fondness for Lady Vengeance, even though it's a real messy flick. Because when those wild swings connect, they hit hard - the debate between the parents about the, shall we say, order of operations is a scene that takes up a lot of real estate in my head.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I think that movie looks dull beyond measure, but betting against James Cameron feels like a real easy way to lose money

    Never count out touchdown tom James Cameron

    his name is James Cameron, hero of the sea!

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    OdinOdin Registered User regular
    Grislo wrote: »
    N1tSt4lker wrote: »
    the 'avatar' was essentially just a Na'vi body that they dropped that dude's mind into, so I guess he could have a kid.

    I like that there's a feral human living with them, who apparently still needs the mask to breathe, which is a bummer.

    Is that? It looks like a child. I was assuming that was his child since it's definitely a human but living with them. I watched that "this family stays together" bit again, and I'm pretty sure the trailer wants you to assume that's their child? But that would mean his human form fathered the child which is why I was confused. So basically what I'm saying is that trailer is confusing as hell! But it is pretty. And there's water.

    It is, and I'm paraphrasing an interview with the producer I read in Empire Magazine while on the shitter, a kid who was born on the base/planet and then ran away and lived like "tarzan" (his words) and was taken in by the main characters from the first movie, giving the movie "a parallel to real life mixed race couples" (his words).

    In addition to what I'm sure will be a very moving examination of interracial relationships, the movie will apparently also feature underwater crab mechs.

    Oh boy

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