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Thought it was Shadow Ane at first.
Haha, quit now.
Flagged hunter with 3 pals runs up, drops a snake trap, I am flagged. They jump me.
WTF? Seriously.
And Bigity there is a huge issue with snake traps attacking unflagged people and causing them to be flagged. It's terrible.
So they just all hover over me all over BEM while I try to get my last few demon kills. Idiots. So glad spring break is over.
After we finished molesting them we headed back to Xroads and another group of 5 Alliance was there. Had another guildy join us plus some other rogue and proceeded to whip their asses until they waited for their flags to drop and hearthed out. Lots of fun that day.
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Pre-emptive cancellation for another game whose release date will be announced this week and falls very close to the closure of my account.
You can do Supremus, Najentus, Akama and Gorefiend in 60 minutes? Hell, I'm happy if we're done that in 2 hours. You must be on the verge of a one night clear, if that's the case, and I'd like to see some WWS's from a crew pulling that off!
Also, 90 minutes? If the dps is flasked and in full T6 perhaps. I'm not sure you can RUN Karazhan (like, physically run from the entrance to the prince's room) in less than 30, so unless you've got a pair of paladin tanks picking up entire rooms and aoe'ing them down in 20 seconds, it doesn't seem doable. Less than 4 is good with alts, less than 3 with a mix, but less than 2 (unless with full mains) just seems kinda out there. I wouldn't bitch about a 2 hour run, but that might just be me.
Pala tank, 2 awesome healers, 7 ultra geared dps, muuuurdeeeer
TEASE
It's all about the trash really. A quick glance over our gameplan for it shows it to be just under an hour and a half on average (I posted what we had originally thought possible, not reality, sorry), but each piece of gear makes it a bit quicker every time, also we get slightly more reckless in how we pull each time cause god these places are boring >.>
Before we starting trying to top how fast we could get Teron trash down then yeah 2 hours and we thought we were being fast, but you can skip so much and just chain so many groups all up to Teron, it's a bit harder to do afterwards (we clear Hyjal then do Naj -> Teron on Wednesday and the rest of BT on Thursday, start at 20:00 and recently we've been ending the raid around 23:30ish, we kinda dick around in Hyjal a lot, ohgodarchimonde)
Raid start, pull the tiny little elementals, kill, ignore everything else go up the stairs, pull hydra/naga pack, pull ramp pack, go up ramp, pull hydra/naga pack, pull generals pack, pull elems pack (around 15 minutes or so), pull Naj (3 minute fight), pull tiny little fuckers pack, pull AE pack on right, pull dragon pack, pull demon (or both if they are there), pull other demon (if only one before), pull dragon pack, go right, pull 1 pack, pull next, pull 3rd dragon pack, go left across sup, pull demon, pull demon, pull AE pack, pull dragons, pull dragons(15minutes tops, you can chain pull this place super easily), pull Supremus (5minutes), port out, zone in, port to vendors, pull first wandering trio, pull rogues, pull next wandering trio, pull rogues down stairs to left, pull demon pack, pull largeass pack to right of stairs, pull demon pack, pull both wandering packs in akamas room, pull primalists, pull kneeling packs (10minutes tops again, demon might slow you down depending on where it is), pull Akama (lol >.> 4 minutes) [Total time: 52 minutes].
Right, Teron trash. Here is where you make up all your time, initially this trash could take anywhere upwards of 40 minutes, marking and CC included and so forth, making sure each pull is done safely and so forth.
Go up stairs, pull first pack, bunch them up, melee on guys with swords, AE the rest, once 1 sword guy is dead, hunters MD wolf pack onto the tanks. AE continues (melee is sword guys -> ranged guys -> reavers -> wolves) typically the wolves are dead and the reavers close to it by the time ranged guys are dead. A dedicated melee dispeller is hella important. Moving while killing puts you in position for the next pull, usually its 2 bloodmages a reaver and some AE trash. Pull them, tanks position mages facing the wall, melee on mages, AE everything. Once mages are dead, free tanks go and pick up the next group which is usually a centurion and 2 blood mages with AE trash. Melee kill Centurion first then mages. AE trash kinda just dies. Kill off these packs in their entirety. Pull next group which is usually a couple of reavers and AE trash. AE it all down. Assign a tank to pick up deathcasters and another to bloodmages, 3rd tank to pick up skeleton. MD skeleton over, tanks pick up their mages using ramp for LoS. Kill skeleton first, while tanks arrange their clothies. Next is dependant on where the riders are, if they are nearby, then skeleton tank picks them up, and drags them to the general AE as best as possible (doesn't always work and this is the slower of the choices you have here), melee swap to ranged guys cause damn those are annoying. Else, tank pulls the large AE pack, pulls them to the other tanks, AE is still going on - clever mages chain nova the crappy mobs in place to help while tank moves the big guy to a different spot to stop him WWing the fuck out of everyone. AE the fuck out of everything else, then kill the big guy, pull which ever pack you had left plus the two little grunts off to the side, kill them. From here on out, it's basically more of the same and once your raid has got into the idea of pulling in chains it slips into place a lot better.
This is just like the start of the Teron area, pull centurion pack, kill centurions, pull ranged pack, kill ranged guys while AE kills the rest, move up. Ignore the grunts for the most part, 1 tank grabs centurion other 2 tanks grab their respective casters. Tank them on the pillar while everyone single targets the centurion, then AE the hell out of the casters melee on deathcasters. Next pack is the same as the previous skeleton pack, single target the skeleton, then AE the mages, move inside, tanks pick up terons first guard pair kill kill, next guard pair, kill kill. Boom, if you had any deaths your time will go up. Our best on teron trash has been 15 minutes from first Teron pull. Usually we do it in about 20 minutes.
Teron is a quick affair at a little under 4 minutes. Assume worst case trash and you're looking at 1hr 20mins, even if you have the worst possible luck in patrols between Naj and Akama, you've still shaved off like 30 minutes from your average laid back run.
I'll fraps it next time we do it. The last WWS I have of a wednesday run wasn't a speed attempt as things weren't what we would call optimal for it. <Insert bunch of reasons here>
Here's the link: http://wowwebstats.com/fdsczfggozghg?m
The Teron trash stats are:
First trash pull - 23:08'17
Last trash death - 23:27'37
So a little over over 19 minutes from first pull til we could spit on Teron.
For an extra laugh, go through the Teron fight, it was like a nightmare from your first attempts truly. First person with doom messed up royally, constructs in raid, next person messed up too, constructs in raid, 3rd did okay, 4th person messed up as well and it was all fun and games from there. I'm super surprised we didn't wipe there like retards (Because thats what people were playing like). But if you look through the rest of the raid log you'll see all sorts of stupid screwups that shouldn't have happened at all.
It's all about the trash really. A quick glance over our gameplan for it shows it to be just under an hour and a half on average (I posted what we had originally thought possible, not reality, sorry), but each piece of gear makes it a bit quicker every time, also we get slightly more reckless in how we pull each time cause god these places are boring >.>
Before we starting trying to top how fast we could get Teron trash down then yeah 2 hours and we thought we were being fast, but you can skip so much and just chain so many groups all up to Teron, it's a bit harder to do afterwards (we clear Hyjal then do Naj -> Teron on Wednesday and the rest of BT on Thursday, start at 20:00 and recently we've been ending the raid around 23:30ish, we kinda dick around in Hyjal a lot, ohgodarchimonde)
Raid start, pull the tiny little elementals, kill, ignore everything else go up the stairs, pull hydra/naga pack, pull ramp pack, go up ramp, pull hydra/naga pack, pull generals pack, pull elems pack (around 15 minutes or so), pull Naj (3 minute fight), pull tiny little fuckers pack, pull AE pack on right, pull dragon pack, pull demon (or both if they are there), pull other demon (if only one before), pull dragon pack, go right, pull 1 pack, pull next, pull 3rd dragon pack, go left across sup, pull demon, pull demon, pull AE pack, pull dragons, pull dragons(15minutes tops, you can chain pull this place super easily), pull Supremus (5minutes), port out, zone in, port to vendors, pull first wandering trio, pull rogues, pull next wandering trio, pull rogues down stairs to left, pull demon pack, pull largeass pack to right of stairs, pull demon pack, pull both wandering packs in akamas room, pull primalists, pull kneeling packs (10minutes tops again, demon might slow you down depending on where it is), pull Akama (lol >.> 4 minutes) [Total time: 52 minutes].
Right, Teron trash. Here is where you make up all your time, initially this trash could take anywhere upwards of 40 minutes, marking and CC included and so forth, making sure each pull is done safely and so forth.
Go up stairs, pull first pack, bunch them up, melee on guys with swords, AE the rest, once 1 sword guy is dead, hunters MD wolf pack onto the tanks. AE continues (melee is sword guys -> ranged guys -> reavers -> wolves) typically the wolves are dead and the reavers close to it by the time ranged guys are dead. A dedicated melee dispeller is hella important. Moving while killing puts you in position for the next pull, usually its 2 bloodmages a reaver and some AE trash. Pull them, tanks position mages facing the wall, melee on mages, AE everything. Once mages are dead, free tanks go and pick up the next group which is usually a centurion and 2 blood mages with AE trash. Melee kill Centurion first then mages. AE trash kinda just dies. Kill off these packs in their entirety. Pull next group which is usually a couple of reavers and AE trash. AE it all down. Assign a tank to pick up deathcasters and another to bloodmages, 3rd tank to pick up skeleton. MD skeleton over, tanks pick up their mages using ramp for LoS. Kill skeleton first, while tanks arrange their clothies. Next is dependant on where the riders are, if they are nearby, then skeleton tank picks them up, and drags them to the general AE as best as possible (doesn't always work and this is the slower of the choices you have here), melee swap to ranged guys cause damn those are annoying. Else, tank pulls the large AE pack, pulls them to the other tanks, AE is still going on - clever mages chain nova the crappy mobs in place to help while tank moves the big guy to a different spot to stop him WWing the fuck out of everyone. AE the fuck out of everything else, then kill the big guy, pull which ever pack you had left plus the two little grunts off to the side, kill them. From here on out, it's basically more of the same and once your raid has got into the idea of pulling in chains it slips into place a lot better.
This is just like the start of the Teron area, pull centurion pack, kill centurions, pull ranged pack, kill ranged guys while AE kills the rest, move up. Ignore the grunts for the most part, 1 tank grabs centurion other 2 tanks grab their respective casters. Tank them on the pillar while everyone single targets the centurion, then AE the hell out of the casters melee on deathcasters. Next pack is the same as the previous skeleton pack, single target the skeleton, then AE the mages, move inside, tanks pick up terons first guard pair kill kill, next guard pair, kill kill. Boom, if you had any deaths your time will go up. Our best on teron trash has been 15 minutes from first Teron pull. Usually we do it in about 20 minutes.
Teron is a quick affair at a little under 4 minutes. Assume worst case trash and you're looking at 1hr 20mins, even if you have the worst possible luck in patrols between Naj and Akama, you've still shaved off like 30 minutes from your average laid back run.
I'll fraps it next time we do it. The last WWS I have of a wednesday run wasn't a speed attempt as things weren't what we would call optimal for it. <Insert bunch of reasons here>
Here's the link: http://wowwebstats.com/fdsczfggozghg?m
The Teron trash stats are:
First trash pull - 23:08'17
Last trash death - 23:27'37
So a little over over 19 minutes from first pull til we could spit on Teron.
For an extra laugh, go through the Teron fight, it was like a nightmare from your first attempts truly. First person with doom messed up royally, constructs in raid, next person messed up too, constructs in raid, 3rd did okay, 4th person messed up as well and it was all fun and games from there. I'm super surprised we didn't wipe there like retards (Because thats what people were playing like). But if you look through the rest of the raid log you'll see all sorts of stupid screwups that shouldn't have happened at all.
IT'S BACK
I was so disappointed when I went to our WWS history page, look at the available ones and there is only that Hyjal+BT one ... : (
I mean, look at that goddamn failure on Teron. WTF were those guys doing, facerolling on the keyboard once they got shadow of death? : ( : (
Whats worse is we started 15 minutes early as well so we were all optimistic about "doing RoS and Gurtogg as well and still ending the raid before official end time" (which is 00:30)
Spoiler that shit
I don't normally do the "tldr" lazy shit, but that's like an essay on how to pull mobs in wow.
I just got done rebuilding my PC. It's way awesomer now. Before I tore down the old machine, I took all 5 WoW and all 5 TBC disks and made a couple DVD images of them. To make everything not suck by having to switch disks 5 times. Anyway, looks like I messed something up somewhere because one of the MPQ files is corrupted. Damn.
Fine, so I pop the disk in and begin installing. Hour or so later, I finally get to "Insert Disk 5." I do and.... Crash.
Haven't even gotten to TBC yet...
(maybe 2 dvds, I don't know how big the folder actually is)
And it's no longer than some of the other Big Block Of Text attrocities committed here now and then, including those perpetrated by yours truly here.
It's not like it's a 2 page diagram of BT pathing and pull times. Sheesh.
But if a man where looking for such a thing....any idea's where he'd find it?
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Really Happy: Got into a Wailing Caverns run where I was #2 on DPS (behind the tanking enhancement shaman), with my pet at #4 for damage. During the run I got the gloves of the fang, the +9 agility leather shoulders, and venomstrike.
Sad: The realization that due to several factors (my work schedule being one of them), that if I want to raid and get anywhere on either my paladin or my mage, I'll probably have to change servers or respec my paladin into holy. Nobody on my server seems to need tanks, and mages are a dime a dozen it seems.
Plus like EVERYONE is going to be doing it soon, I imagine, so I won't be able to bum any spellcloth cooldowns. Maybe I need to respec exis's mage. x_x
edit: ooo consortium exalted for the bad ass tabard!
I've been farming primal shadow for my GF for that very reason. Engineering Hoover FTW!
Find an engineer and bribe them. I can farm 10 an hour in SMV.
Bitching at myself: My brainfart when the Enhancement Shammy asked for "BoM" I had no idea what he meant. :P I've just been using Kings and Sanctuary for the past 8 levels.. sigh.
Hope: I do want to do Scarlet Cath again. Bastard didn't drop that Shield.
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I've just been doing daylies and buying all of the spellcloth for my priest's spellstrike set. However, the mats for the shadoweave set....I'm grinding it all out on my rogue. I've found a great place for the primal water that isn't Skettis but it's still mind-numbingly boring. I've been doing all of my daylies and then using that money to buy what I don't feel like farming. Too much free time is leading to me continually thinking about what I still need to farm and it's driving me crazy. Being hellbent on having all this crafted gear done the moment I ding 70 may be proving to be an unhealthy obsession.
I don't expect them to be cheap, but unlike HoD's they aren't a requirement for resist gear so you should see them hitting the market faster.
We've had that happen. Then we've had the day with 3 plate warriors and what dropped? Everything was leather.
It is amusing in a RAAAAAARGH sort of way.
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[5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
Yeah, I'm looking forward to the "Two Ring" which really is much better then the "One Ring".
Hope: I can maybe go to bed early and get more than 5.5 hours sleep if everything is broken.
Happiness: Downed Council last night, and got to see Illidan before 2.4.
Happiness part 2: We actually had a ton of people on Saturday afternoon, and threw together a full alt Gruul... And they were crazy enough to let me tank on my Durid, which I apparently didn't suck too horribly at since we one shot both bosses. (OK there was a mispull on Mulgar, shh) She now has T4 Tanky pants to go with her meh tanking gear.
Happiness part 3: amg wrath of air totem on my Shaman.
and re: quick Kara clears. We've been badge farming with about 7 or so mains & 3 fresh 70 alts and clearing it in a bit over 2 hours. 90 minutes doesn't seem out of the question if you're not dragging a few along for the ride. It's all about chain pulling the trash, which I kinda luck out on since my tank is a druid that tosses me an innervate whenever it's up so we never stop really. I think I'm going to insist on solo healing it this week so we can get the time down further.