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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    and why?

    It doesn't matter. All that matters is that someone wants it to be done.

    Yeah, that's what Oppenheimer told himself.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    hey guys check out science that's actually interesting:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc

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    DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I thought we've all seen Dr Quantum though

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    well some people haven't and they should

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    teehee posting doctor quantum usually results in some neckbearded meathead espousing a metaphysical philosophy due to a poor understanding of superstring theory and then i make fun of them

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    DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    there's also some good ones on entanglement and 2 dimensional spaces

    Also, the popular "imagining the tenth dimension"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o&feature=user


    But this is hardly futuristic stuff

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    stavesacrestavesacre Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I wonder how long it will take before we have robots that have valid military combat applications.

    I am not talking about flying drones or whatever. I want to see like 4 ft tall robot death machines thank you. That might help with the overpopulation thing. I mean we are all going on about using robots and stuff for going into space and fixing our problems here at home.

    Where are all my robots taking care of buisness here on earth?

    Oh and, love bots. Come on now, we may be able to genetically engineer super-bimbos that are physically perfect in every way, but you'd still have to listen to them drone about the latest fashion or Holo-show.

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    DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Isn't Big Dog sorta a valid military robot?

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    stavesacrestavesacre Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Davoid wrote: »
    Isn't Big Dog sorta a valid military robot?

    Maybe if you prefaced it with a mandatory play through of a Silent Hill game.

    Air drop in some PS2's and after a few days send in a few hundred Big Dog's to terrify everyone.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    the problem with military combat robots is basically singular

    it's a software issue

    specifically, a target recognition and situation assessment issue

    we've got the hardware to build bad-ass death machines. this technology exists

    what we don't have is 100% reliable software that can safely and quickly distinguish enemy from friendly from non-hostile from lamp-post and be able to figure out and adapt to a situation quickly.

    shit, we can't even get human soldiers to do that shit with 100% reliability.

    basically the only practical use for a ground combat robot at this point is the sort of thing you'd just use a bomb for anyway: when you want to kill a fuckton of things in an area and ain't the pickiest bout how it gets done or who it gets done to

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    KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    sons of bitches kept me up an hour longer than I wanted to be

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    stavesacrestavesacre Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Also, totally not serious about the robot death machines = fix over population problem.

    But I guess thats the first thing I think of rather than "FarmerBot 2000! Fix your fields and harvest the produce in 1/8th the time!"

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    hey don't blame me, kaz

    i ain't the guy with a boner for space

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    we don't have an over-population problem

    we have a population distribution problem

    those are different problems.

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    The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=AGo0xsImasw

    The arms race is practically synonymous with the technology race

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    KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    Let me just make one last thing clear, though.
    Pony wrote: »
    desire to see people waste their lives meaninglessly

    Fuck you and fuck the implications you're making with this statement. I don't want people to waste their lives meaninglessly. I want people to waste their lives however the hell they want to. You can see a person's desire to live on Mars as meaningless to yourself. Hell, I can see it as being meaningless to myself. If that's what they want to do though, I want to believe they can do it.

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    stavesacrestavesacre Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    the problem with military combat robots is basically singular

    it's a software issue

    specifically, a target recognition and situation assessment issue

    we've got the hardware to build bad-ass death machines. this technology exists

    what we don't have is 100% reliable software that can safely and quickly distinguish enemy from friendly from non-hostile from lamp-post and be able to figure out and adapt to a situation quickly.

    shit, we can't even get human soldiers to do that shit with 100% reliability.

    basically the only practical use for a ground combat robot at this point is the sort of thing you'd just use a bomb for anyway: when you want to kill a fuckton of things in an area and ain't the pickiest bout how it gets done or who it gets done to

    Agreed, of course.

    It is a wonderful thought though. I will be a happy man when there is something that can take the place of that first man through the breech, that doesn't mind getting shot a few times...

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    Let me just make one last thing clear, though.
    Pony wrote: »
    desire to see people waste their lives meaninglessly

    Fuck you and fuck the implications you're making with this statement. I don't want people to waste their lives meaninglessly. I want people to waste their lives however the hell they want to. You can see a person's desire to live on Mars as meaningless to yourself. Hell, I can see it as being meaningless to myself. If that's what they want to do though, I want to believe they can do it.

    I don't.

    I don't want to believe that fat broad ahead of me in the check-out aisle is really gonna buy six bags of doritos and start wolfing them down as she's paying for them.

    I don't want to believe she's so self-absorbed and stupid to not realize her own self-destructive behavior

    but there she goes, doing it anyway.

    I want to believe people are good.

    They just don't want to be a lot of the time.

    I don't let that bring me down, I remain optimistic.

    Do you?

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    DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    and so, which is the more human and noble endeavor?

    Wasting time on what we want to do, or being ruthlessly efficient while denying our own hopes and dreams?

    I always tend to blame our evolutionary biology when it comes to the staggering stupidity of the common man, and I live in a northern ontario hick town so I see alot of stupid people.

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    The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Big Dog is cool, but a real donkey would be better

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Davoid wrote: »
    and so, which is the more human and noble endeavor?

    Wasting time on what we want to do, or being ruthlessly efficient while denying our own hopes and dreams?

    I prefer to think of it as tempering one's hopes and dreams.

    Realizing that space is a largely worthless wasteland of nothing that is only useful for scientific study and resource gathering at some future date.

    And growing out of silly fanciful notions of people putting silly spacesuit footprints on red sand just to say we did it.

    I think of it as growing up.

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    stavesacrestavesacre Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Man Davoid it's too early here to think. I just want to argue endlessly without knowing what I am talking about.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Davoid wrote: »
    I always tend to blame our evolutionary biology when it comes to the staggering stupidity of the common man, and I live in a northern ontario hick town so I see alot of stupid people.

    you overthink biology, i think.

    the one consistent thing you've been saying all along is "it's just our nature, man! it's how we're wired! all we can do is change the code!"

    i don't believe that.

    I don't believe you give society and anthropological development enough credit for the complexities and wonder of the human experience.

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    DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I don't really see it as "growing up" persay, but I do see the lines of evolution deeply engrained in everything that is human, from that want to put that dude on mars, to the fat woman in the checkout line with the doritos, to me smoking a cigarette when one of my main study areas is carcinogenic agents.


    EDIT: ha ha ha, sorry, it's my field of study. Evolutionary biology and psychology.

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    Synthetic OrangeSynthetic Orange Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    you overthink biology, i think.

    How're those drugs helping with your exploded spine anyway?

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    and i think you put too much stock in evolutionary biology and use it as a catch-all understanding of humanity.

    i think that's poor.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    you overthink biology, i think.

    How're those drugs helping with your exploded spine anyway?

    they're not.

    i've stopped taking them because they cause more pain than they are relieving

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    stavesacrestavesacre Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    exploded spine? D:

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    stavesacre wrote: »
    exploded spine? D:

    it didn't actually explode

    it's just damaged, see

    it had lesions in it

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    IskanderIskander Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    stavesacre wrote: »
    exploded spine? D:

    it didn't actually explode

    it's just damaged, see

    it had lesions in it

    well that's not really good action movie material now is it?

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Iskander wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    stavesacre wrote: »
    exploded spine? D:

    it didn't actually explode

    it's just damaged, see

    it had lesions in it

    well that's not really good action movie material now is it?

    no but i mean i could be played by ralph fiennes and be cared for by a lovely nurse

    it won't court the vin diesel crowd but it'll get an oscar or two

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    stavesacrestavesacre Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I've seen an exploded spine before see, thats why I was wondering how exactly you were posting from beyond the grave.

    Shrapnel is not polite.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    stavesacre wrote: »
    I've seen an exploded spine before see, thats why I was wondering how exactly you were posting from beyond the grave.

    Shrapnel is not polite.

    i would go so far as to say it is downright inconsiderate

    but naw, i had shingles, bad times, it fucked up my nerves and now i got serious damage and pain that i can honestly describe as unimaginable

    it may account for my surly demeanor

    but i doubt it

    think i'm just a prick

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    stavesacrestavesacre Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Awww man that is rough. Having to go through a bout of Shingles is no joke.

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    yourclothesyourclothes __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
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    ChairwalkerChairwalker Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I believe that, should earth's population get ridiculously high, the price of a square meter of land will be expensive enough for a gazzillionaire to think it will be economically feasible to build his own sun orbiting biosphere thingamagic.
    Colonizing planets may be stupid because of the gravitational difference, but there's nothing wrong with a big-ass spinning ring zooming through space.

    I also predict the rise of space prostitutes.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I believe that, should earth's population get ridiculously high, the price of a square meter of land will be expensive enough for a gazzillionaire to think it will be economically feasible to build his own sun orbiting biosphere thingamagic.
    Colonizing planets may be stupid because of the gravitational difference, but there's nothing wrong with a big-ass spinning ring zooming through space.

    I also predict the rise of space prostitutes.

    there's only part of your post that makes sense

    can you figure out what it is

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    DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Hey man, come up here. It's perfectly habitable, and there is tons and tons and tons of unused land.

    Oh wait, no, populations tend to bunch up in certain spots then claim it's overpopulated.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    i can seriously do a bit of driving up north and find myself literally hundreds of miles from civilization, surronded by (motherfucking cold) forests and nature

    life is good

    glad i don't live in india!

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    thorgotthorgot there is special providence in the fall of a sparrowRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    yeah but people would rather live in space than in canada

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