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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Urian wrote: »
    Reloaded and Revo had some absolutely incredible action sequences, but they didn't hold up as anything other than great action movies. The first was a sci fi masterpiece, the other two were barely more than standard summer movie fare.
    That is because the first one was suppose to have a message, and the second and third were just money makers, so all that the producers really cared about, was spend lots of money on effects, and wow the summer audience with special effects and cool fight scenes.
    Actually, the Wachowskis were essentially given carte blanche and total control over the last two movies. So the "producers" didn't have any major influence.

    And it's not because they wanted to make money, it's because they got full of themselves and realized they didn't actually have to write anything worthwhile and all the die-hards would eat it up anyway.

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    To Slip AwayTo Slip Away __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    I think they did it for the money.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'm telling you guys, George Lucas Syndrome is real and we need to develop a cure

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    To Slip AwayTo Slip Away __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    I'm telling you guys, George Lucas Syndrome is real and we need to develop a cure
    Show me proof.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    name one original science fiction property that hasn't degraded with the sequels

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    HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The Star Wars Trilogy

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    To Slip AwayTo Slip Away __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    Star Wars 4 5 and 6 are all boss.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    George Lucas didn't direct the second two films in the original trilogy

    which is why they didn't suck

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    To Slip AwayTo Slip Away __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    That is good then, is it not?

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    HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Back the Future.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    what are you talking about

    are you even reading what I am saying

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    name one original science fiction property that hasn't degraded with the sequels
    If you count ONLY the immediate sequels, Terminator 2 and Aliens

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    HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    what are you talking about

    are you even reading what I am saying

    No, were reading what you're typing.

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    TasteticleTasteticle Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    name one original science fiction property that hasn't degraded with the sequels

    Toy Story. Buzz Lightyear is from space ergo it is science fiction!

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    DE?ADDE?AD Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Actually I'd say the fact that most sci-fi series get worse as they go on is simply because most sequels, regardless of genre, are worse then their predecessors.

    George Lucas Syndrome is a more specific thing - it's when a genuinely bad writer/director gets really lucky and somehow manages to make a good film or two.

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    zimfanzimfan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Houk wrote: »
    name one original science fiction property that hasn't degraded with the sequels
    If you count ONLY the immediate sequels, Terminator 2 and Aliens

    This man is correct

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    HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Star Trek

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    the whole point of George Lucas Syndrome is that the original creator is the one ruining his creation

    you guys keep naming trilogies that weren't all done by the same guy

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    RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Star Trek II was a shit ton better than the first one.

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    the whole point of George Lucas Syndrome is that the original creator is the one ruining his creation

    you guys keep naming trilogies that weren't all done by the same guy
    You didn't say anything about it having to be by the same guy. You can't just change things up on us! What is a society without rules?!

    Edit: plus George Lucas still had a hand in the writing of the sequels, so unless you're one of those types who assumes that directors are solely responsible for the quality of a film's story, you still have to give him credit.

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    BogeyBogey I'm back, baby! Santa Monica, CAModerator mod
    edited August 2008
    Starship Troopers.

    Oh wait, I'm doing it wrong.

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    MikeRyuMikeRyu Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    THIIIS IS CETTI ALPHA FIIIIVE!!!

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    THAT'S WHY I CALLED IT GEORGE LUCAS SYNDROME, NOT SEQUELITIS

    ARGLEBARGLE

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    HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Since were on the topic of awesome movies... lets discuss movies that make you think about shit and are just awesome.

    This movie; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/

    THE MAN FROM EARTH
    If you have not seen it, you're missing out on a fantastic fucking film. This is my favorite movie of all time.

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    RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    the whole point of George Lucas Syndrome is that the original creator is the one ruining his creation

    you guys keep naming trilogies that weren't all done by the same guy

    I think the problem isn't so much with George Lucas, as it is with the people surrounding him. Nobody was piping up and saying, "Dude, this is shiiiiit". They're all worried about getting fired and pissing him off.

    On the Phantom Menace DVD documentary, there's a scene where they screened the final print of the film for everyone, and it was pretty universal "Oh shit, this sucks" but everyone's trying to put a positive spin on it.

    Producers can tell a director, "no, that's retarded". George Lucas doesn't get that. It's his way no matter what.

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    MikeRyuMikeRyu Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I thought George Lucas Syndrome was when an original creative film maker has his soul eaten away by the lust for money and merchandise?

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    zimfanzimfan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Since were on the topic of awesome movies... lets discuss movies that make you think about shit and are just awesome.

    This movie; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/

    THE MAN FROM EARTH
    If you have not seen it, you're missing out on a fantastic fucking film. This is my favorite movie of all time.

    Oh man, I want to but don't ever remember to

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    To Slip AwayTo Slip Away __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    MikeRyu wrote: »
    I thought George Lucas Syndrome was when an original creative film maker has his soul eaten away by the lust for money and merchandise?
    And we have a winner!

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    HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    the whole point of George Lucas Syndrome is that the original creator is the one ruining his creation

    you guys keep naming trilogies that weren't all done by the same guy

    I think the problem isn't so much with George Lucas, as it is with the people surrounding him. Nobody was piping up and saying, "Dude, this is shiiiiit". They're all worried about getting fired and pissing him off.

    On the Phantom Menace DVD documentary, there's a scene where they screened the final print of the film for everyone, and it was pretty universal "Oh shit, this sucks" but everyone's trying to put a positive spin on it.

    Producers can tell a director, "no, that's retarded". George Lucas doesn't get that. It's his way no matter what.

    When Lucas "directs" films, his name tag is either Yoda, or Vader. You get to propose ideas to him based on what the name tag is for that day.


    I shit you not.

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    NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Don't say ergo

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MikeRyu wrote: »
    I thought George Lucas Syndrome was when an original creative film maker has his soul eaten away by the lust for money and merchandise?
    And we have a winner!

    good grief you are retarded

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    RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    the whole point of George Lucas Syndrome is that the original creator is the one ruining his creation

    you guys keep naming trilogies that weren't all done by the same guy

    I think the problem isn't so much with George Lucas, as it is with the people surrounding him. Nobody was piping up and saying, "Dude, this is shiiiiit". They're all worried about getting fired and pissing him off.

    On the Phantom Menace DVD documentary, there's a scene where they screened the final print of the film for everyone, and it was pretty universal "Oh shit, this sucks" but everyone's trying to put a positive spin on it.

    Producers can tell a director, "no, that's retarded". George Lucas doesn't get that. It's his way no matter what.

    When Lucas "directs" films, his name tag is either Yoda, or Vader. You get to propose ideas to him based on what the name tag is for that day.


    I shit you not.

    Since he finances his own movies, there's no accountability. That's the real problem. I don't think his ideas are really any different than 70's/80's Lucas. American Graffiti and Star Wars are awesome movies. That was "I'll take a pay cute to make these" Lucas.

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    HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    NotACrook wrote: »
    Don't say ergo

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    CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Thanks HallowedFaith, that was my opening to post this work of absolute and utter beauty.

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    uhhhh

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    HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Always down to help.

    Someone you know?

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    HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Houk wrote: »
    uhhhh

    Breathe deep. Relax. There ya go.....




    ... I have candy in my van for you.

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    CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Houk wrote: »
    uhhhh
    Look, I just needed somewhere to share it.

    Okay?

    I'M NOT THE VILLAIN HERE!

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    QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    What the hell are you doing posting that fat Psylocke in here.

    This is more a statement than a question. There is no right answer.

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    CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Quoth wrote: »
    What the hell are you doing posting that fat Psylocke in here.

    This is more a statement than a question. There is no right answer.
    fat?

    Are?

    ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?!

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