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Cloak is neat but I don't think he should have won his last fight. Wonder Woman is so damn fine she should win just for that, add to that she's Wonder Fucking Woman and she easily gets 1st place. I've always been luke warm when it comes to the avengers and FF4, therefore I don't care if Cap or Reed advance.
So far I'm thinking Wonder Woman and Mr.Fantastic. Maybe its their names that inspire me to vote for them.
Cap and Diana. I don't see how being really smart is going to win you this fight, or any fight for that matter, when you don't have even have time to invent something. When has Mr. Fantastic ever won a serious fight on his own without the aid of something he took an entire day or so to devise?
Wonder Woman is definitely moving on. I only voted for Cloak last time because any fight with Shade makes darkness powers the ace card.
So, Cap or Fantastic?
I want to say Cap, but everyone here could potentially beat him, only Cloak could potentially beat Fantastic. Unless Wonder Woman can slice him up with her special sword or something.
Hmm. Caps indestructible shield versus Diana's bracelets. I'm assuming she'd ricochet it off. Any DC/Marvel crossover stuff that pointed to the strength of Cap's shield?
can you hurt cloak? I guess you can... but isn't he just a hole in a cape?
Is the Darkforce dimension magical?
EDIT: According to Wikipedia it might be mystical, but it's more along the lines of the Speed Force or Shadowlands in the DCU. If it has any magical properties, then Diana would tear Cloak a new one without much of a fight.
can you hurt cloak? I guess you can... but isn't he just a hole in a cape?
His head looks kind of solid.
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Wonderwoman and Richards.
Wonderwoman has power and experience, and her lasso probably does something to cloak. You can't really bash a man of rubber with a shield all that well.
Since I see that fighters get one piece of special equipment, I'm gonna go ahead and assume Wonder Woman gets Hephaestus' sword again. In that case, she's clearly the winner, and can probably cut Cloak and Mr. Fantastic up. It's just a matter of who she goes after last.
Also, Wonder Woman hasn't lost her powers when bound by a man since at least Crisis on Infinite Earths, if not before.
Wow, Wonder Woman must have gotten implants at some point! And what's up with that guy in the pink and purple bondage outfit? Who the hell was writting/drawing Wonder Woman back then? :shock:
Okay, So much for Wonder Woman having a weakness. So she is certainly 1st place. Now it's just Cap vs Reed.
You know what? Cap moves on the way Batman moved on in the first round, since that seemed to work. Tell Cloak they'll work together, get him to send Richards to the Darkforce Dimension, then when Cloak goes after Wonder Woman, she cuts him in half and Cap and WW move on. Cap'll take second, of course, but he'll advance.
Wonder Woman has too much power to really be effectively fought in this fight, and Cap is pretty much the best tactician in the history of mankind. There is no way that Cap would let Reed get close to him.
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Cap and Fantastic would totally form an alliance because they know and respect each other.
Fantastic would use his twenty minutes of prep time to build a machine capable of controlling bees (or he could just borrow Ant Man's helmet) and then command the giant bees to attack Cloak and Wonder Woman. Cloak would last awhile until Cap hits him in the back of the head with his shield. Then he would jump onto a flying bee and lead the charge to Wonder Woman, who would be kicking bee ass all up and down Paris. But then Cap and WW get into a huge fight and it's totally even until WW gets distracted by Mr. Fantastic while Cap grabs the stinger of a bee, rips it out, and throws it like a javelin at WW.
Cap and Fantastic would totally form an alliance because they know and respect each other.
Fantastic would use his twenty minutes of prep time to build a machine capable of controlling bees (or he could just borrow Ant Man's helmet) and then command the giant bees to attack Cloak and Wonder Woman. Cloak would last awhile until Cap hits him in the back of the head with his shield. Then he would jump onto a flying bee and lead the charge to Wonder Woman, who would be kicking bee ass all up and down Paris. But then Cap and WW get into a huge fight and it's totally even until WW gets distracted by Mr. Fantastic while Cap grabs the stinger of a bee, rips it out, and throws it like a javelin at WW.
Winners are Captain America and Mr. Fantastic.
That plan is almost beautiful in it's execution. Takes into account all the terrain, the character's personalities, and it's ridiculous to boot. I almost want to support it just because of that.
Really, though, Wonder Woman is far stronger than anyone here. And she has that sword which could seriously, seriously mess up Reed. He's not expecting to be cut; in the past, it's taken a weapon devised by Dr. Doom specifically to mess up Richards face to cut him. He's going to go in expecting it to bounce off him like a normal sword, not realizing that it is imbued with slicing magics.
Meanwhile, on the other side of the plot, Cap takes Cloak. I don't think this has to be argued.
Cap is a brilliant strategist with an invincible sheild. The only way he loses is if the fight takes place in Paris, and he's distracted by the residents spitting on him.
Man, Mr. Fantastic wouldn't be able to build something to control bees in TWENTY MINUTES. And given the whole Civil War thing, I doubt Reed and Cap are going to play with each other.
I want Cap and Cloak to win. I think it is possible, if they team up. Cap would give awesome effective strategies to Cloak, and then I think they could beat Reed. Wonder Woman could certainly wreck Cap though, hell she could probably beat Namor in a straight fight. This is a lady that can beat Superman!
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Olivawgood name, isn't it?the foot of mt fujiRegistered Userregular
Man, Mr. Fantastic wouldn't be able to build something to control bees in TWENTY MINUTES. And given the whole Civil War thing, I doubt Reed and Cap are going to play with each other.
Hey, they may disagree, but that doesn't mean they don't respect one another. And at least they know each other. Cap would be all like "who's the broad in the hooker boots and gold bustier" and Reed would be all "I don't know, who's the guy in the creepy cloak" and then they'd team up to take 'em down.
And Reed could totally build a machine to control bees in twenty minutes. Or maybe he could just grab one out of his junk drawer. It can't be the first time it's come up.
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The terrain works to Cap's advantage, lots of stuff to hide behind in paris and in the rainforest.
Oh shit France, is this 616 cap or Ultimate Cap? Ultimate Cap would be doomed.
Personally, I think it'd be cool for them to fight in the huge-ass beehive.
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Cap certainly knows who Cloak is, if my memory serves correctly. There is no way current Cap would team up with current Reed. Maybe in the past, maybe in the future, but certainly not now.
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Cloak can teleport those bees, man.
They're bees.
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I am gonna go with Mr. Fantastic and Wonder Woman
Diana is certainly advancing- she's too good a fighter to go out to Cloak or Reed, and she's got so much more power than Cap.
Actually, I can see them forming an alliance- they're the warriors of this fight.
So far I'm thinking Wonder Woman and Mr.Fantastic. Maybe its their names that inspire me to vote for them.
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So, Cap or Fantastic?
I want to say Cap, but everyone here could potentially beat him, only Cloak could potentially beat Fantastic. Unless Wonder Woman can slice him up with her special sword or something.
Is the Darkforce dimension magical?
EDIT: According to Wikipedia it might be mystical, but it's more along the lines of the Speed Force or Shadowlands in the DCU. If it has any magical properties, then Diana would tear Cloak a new one without much of a fight.
His head looks kind of solid.
Wonderwoman has power and experience, and her lasso probably does something to cloak. You can't really bash a man of rubber with a shield all that well.
yeah, 60 years ago
Richard loses because Cap asks him a math question and Reed works it out on a blackboard while Cap hits him over the head with his shield.
And Cloak leaves because no one cares about Cloak.
Bondage: Wonder Woman's kryptonite.
Would Richards count?
He can streach every part of his body and still can't satify his wife.
He's hardly a man.
He is pure SCIENCE
I meant like tying her up-wise.
Actually, she did go back to screw him one more time before she left for the Secret Avengers.
So I'd say she just loves him for his body.
Also, Wonder Woman hasn't lost her powers when bound by a man since at least Crisis on Infinite Earths, if not before.
Unfortunately, this was a Golden Age trope that got left way, way behind.
Okay, So much for Wonder Woman having a weakness. So she is certainly 1st place. Now it's just Cap vs Reed.
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Wonder Woman has too much power to really be effectively fought in this fight, and Cap is pretty much the best tactician in the history of mankind. There is no way that Cap would let Reed get close to him.
Fantastic would use his twenty minutes of prep time to build a machine capable of controlling bees (or he could just borrow Ant Man's helmet) and then command the giant bees to attack Cloak and Wonder Woman. Cloak would last awhile until Cap hits him in the back of the head with his shield. Then he would jump onto a flying bee and lead the charge to Wonder Woman, who would be kicking bee ass all up and down Paris. But then Cap and WW get into a huge fight and it's totally even until WW gets distracted by Mr. Fantastic while Cap grabs the stinger of a bee, rips it out, and throws it like a javelin at WW.
Winners are Captain America and Mr. Fantastic.
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I think WW's first (most probably a given). It's a toss up between Cap and Reed. I'm leaning a bit on Reed's side.
That plan is almost beautiful in it's execution. Takes into account all the terrain, the character's personalities, and it's ridiculous to boot. I almost want to support it just because of that.
Really, though, Wonder Woman is far stronger than anyone here. And she has that sword which could seriously, seriously mess up Reed. He's not expecting to be cut; in the past, it's taken a weapon devised by Dr. Doom specifically to mess up Richards face to cut him. He's going to go in expecting it to bounce off him like a normal sword, not realizing that it is imbued with slicing magics.
Meanwhile, on the other side of the plot, Cap takes Cloak. I don't think this has to be argued.
Cap is a brilliant strategist with an invincible sheild. The only way he loses is if the fight takes place in Paris, and he's distracted by the residents spitting on him.
Wonder Woman/Captain America for the win.
And Reed could totally build a machine to control bees in twenty minutes. Or maybe he could just grab one out of his junk drawer. It can't be the first time it's come up.
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Oh shit France, is this 616 cap or Ultimate Cap? Ultimate Cap would be doomed.
Personally, I think it'd be cool for them to fight in the huge-ass beehive.
On a first name basis, according to those Runaways issues.
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So, yeah.
Cloak is pretty awesome. He can just dump everyone in the darkforce dimension for a bit and take a nap while they all fight eachother (and demons).
They're bees.