The next quotation is from a woman who is hurting, and perhaps wonders if anyone but the feminists care about her problems:
"I'm upset that I was always advised to go back and try harder only to get abused more. I need some comfort, I need solace, need hope, need to know Heavenly Father sees all that I have endured. What hope do I have for a chance to live with Heavenly Father? If temple marriage is the key to the celestial [kingdom], where am I? Outside gnashing my teeth for eternity? Help me."
The woman pleading for help needs to see the eternal nature of things and to know that her trials -- however hard to bear -- in the eternal scheme of things may be compared to a very, very bad experience in the second semester of the first grade. She will find no enduring peace in the feminist movement. There she will have no hope. If she knows the plan of redemption, she can be filled with hope.
Apparently if your husband beats you and you don't like it you are a feminist, also, it's really not that bad so get over it. Wow. This can't be what they really believe.
You are confusing church doctrine with some of the silly things church leaders have said.
Is he seriously comparing something as broad and open to interpretation as spirituality to a basic taste receptor reaction that an overwhelming number of people have experienced and could come to a basic consensus on?
Yep
Then try it. Explain to me what salt tastes like. Taking into account that I have never tasted salt.
Its very much like me trying to describe to you how I know what I know about spiritual matters. Your "spiritual taste receptor reaction" has never experienced it.
The next quotation is from a woman who is hurting, and perhaps wonders if anyone but the feminists care about her problems:
"I'm upset that I was always advised to go back and try harder only to get abused more. I need some comfort, I need solace, need hope, need to know Heavenly Father sees all that I have endured. What hope do I have for a chance to live with Heavenly Father? If temple marriage is the key to the celestial [kingdom], where am I? Outside gnashing my teeth for eternity? Help me."
The woman pleading for help needs to see the eternal nature of things and to know that her trials -- however hard to bear -- in the eternal scheme of things may be compared to a very, very bad experience in the second semester of the first grade. She will find no enduring peace in the feminist movement. There she will have no hope. If she knows the plan of redemption, she can be filled with hope.
Apparently if your husband beats you and you don't like it you are a feminist, also, it's really not that bad so get over it. Wow. This can't be what they really believe.
that exact situation happened to a friend of mine's mom
and in general the church sides with the man, so she was told to go back over and over, and things were.... bad. for her, and for their kids. really bad.
Is he seriously comparing something as broad and open to interpretation as spirituality to a basic taste receptor reaction that an overwhelming number of people have experienced and could come to a basic consensus on?
Yep
Then try it. Explain to me what salt tastes like. Taking into account that I have never tasted salt.
Its very much like me trying to describe to you how I know what I know about spiritual matters. Your "spiritual taste receptor reaction" has never experienced it.
It's an example they teach in the church.
I tasted salt and decided it wasn't my thang.
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Is he seriously comparing something as broad and open to interpretation as spirituality to a basic taste receptor reaction that an overwhelming number of people have experienced and could come to a basic consensus on?
Yep
Then try it. Explain to me what salt tastes like. Taking into account that I have never tasted salt.
Its very much like me trying to describe to you how I know what I know about spiritual matters. Your "spiritual taste receptor reaction" has never experienced it.
what other bases of comparison do you have?
i could say that salt tastes like sweat, for example
The next quotation is from a woman who is hurting, and perhaps wonders if anyone but the feminists care about her problems:
"I'm upset that I was always advised to go back and try harder only to get abused more. I need some comfort, I need solace, need hope, need to know Heavenly Father sees all that I have endured. What hope do I have for a chance to live with Heavenly Father? If temple marriage is the key to the celestial [kingdom], where am I? Outside gnashing my teeth for eternity? Help me."
The woman pleading for help needs to see the eternal nature of things and to know that her trials -- however hard to bear -- in the eternal scheme of things may be compared to a very, very bad experience in the second semester of the first grade. She will find no enduring peace in the feminist movement. There she will have no hope. If she knows the plan of redemption, she can be filled with hope.
Apparently if your husband beats you and you don't like it you are a feminist, also, it's really not that bad so get over it. Wow. This can't be what they really believe.
that exact situation happened to a friend of mine's mom
and in general the church sides with the man, so she was told to go back over and over, and things were.... bad. for her, and for their kids. really bad.
Fuck that. My mom was being abused by her second husband and the church got her out of there REAL fast.
Is he seriously comparing something as broad and open to interpretation as spirituality to a basic taste receptor reaction that an overwhelming number of people have experienced and could come to a basic consensus on?
Yep
Then try it. Explain to me what salt tastes like. Taking into account that I have never tasted salt.
Its very much like me trying to describe to you how I know what I know about spiritual matters. Your "spiritual taste receptor reaction" has never experienced it.
Is he seriously comparing something as broad and open to interpretation as spirituality to a basic taste receptor reaction that an overwhelming number of people have experienced and could come to a basic consensus on?
Yep
Then try it. Explain to me what salt tastes like. Taking into account that I have never tasted salt.
Its very much like me trying to describe to you how I know what I know about spiritual matters. Your "spiritual taste receptor reaction" has never experienced it.
The next quotation is from a woman who is hurting, and perhaps wonders if anyone but the feminists care about her problems:
"I'm upset that I was always advised to go back and try harder only to get abused more. I need some comfort, I need solace, need hope, need to know Heavenly Father sees all that I have endured. What hope do I have for a chance to live with Heavenly Father? If temple marriage is the key to the celestial [kingdom], where am I? Outside gnashing my teeth for eternity? Help me."
The woman pleading for help needs to see the eternal nature of things and to know that her trials -- however hard to bear -- in the eternal scheme of things may be compared to a very, very bad experience in the second semester of the first grade. She will find no enduring peace in the feminist movement. There she will have no hope. If she knows the plan of redemption, she can be filled with hope.
Apparently if your husband beats you and you don't like it you are a feminist, also, it's really not that bad so get over it. Wow. This can't be what they really believe.
that exact situation happened to a friend of mine's mom
and in general the church sides with the man, so she was told to go back over and over, and things were.... bad. for her, and for their kids. really bad.
Fuck that. My mom was being abused by her second husband and the church got her out of there REAL fast.
No...I actually know of quite a few cases in the small mill town that I live next too where the mormons were beating their spouses and children and the church did nothing but defend the men.
The next quotation is from a woman who is hurting, and perhaps wonders if anyone but the feminists care about her problems:
"I'm upset that I was always advised to go back and try harder only to get abused more. I need some comfort, I need solace, need hope, need to know Heavenly Father sees all that I have endured. What hope do I have for a chance to live with Heavenly Father? If temple marriage is the key to the celestial [kingdom], where am I? Outside gnashing my teeth for eternity? Help me."
The woman pleading for help needs to see the eternal nature of things and to know that her trials -- however hard to bear -- in the eternal scheme of things may be compared to a very, very bad experience in the second semester of the first grade. She will find no enduring peace in the feminist movement. There she will have no hope. If she knows the plan of redemption, she can be filled with hope.
Apparently if your husband beats you and you don't like it you are a feminist, also, it's really not that bad so get over it. Wow. This can't be what they really believe.
that exact situation happened to a friend of mine's mom
and in general the church sides with the man, so she was told to go back over and over, and things were.... bad. for her, and for their kids. really bad.
Fuck that. My mom was being abused by her second husband and the church got her out of there REAL fast.
Not all wards are lucky to have that kind of leadership.
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The next quotation is from a woman who is hurting, and perhaps wonders if anyone but the feminists care about her problems:
"I'm upset that I was always advised to go back and try harder only to get abused more. I need some comfort, I need solace, need hope, need to know Heavenly Father sees all that I have endured. What hope do I have for a chance to live with Heavenly Father? If temple marriage is the key to the celestial [kingdom], where am I? Outside gnashing my teeth for eternity? Help me."
The woman pleading for help needs to see the eternal nature of things and to know that her trials -- however hard to bear -- in the eternal scheme of things may be compared to a very, very bad experience in the second semester of the first grade. She will find no enduring peace in the feminist movement. There she will have no hope. If she knows the plan of redemption, she can be filled with hope.
Apparently if your husband beats you and you don't like it you are a feminist, also, it's really not that bad so get over it. Wow. This can't be what they really believe.
that exact situation happened to a friend of mine's mom
and in general the church sides with the man, so she was told to go back over and over, and things were.... bad. for her, and for their kids. really bad.
Fuck that. My mom was being abused by her second husband and the church got her out of there REAL fast.
the man is a charismatic active member in good standing, and she is a meek, slightly strange lady. this guy, you meet this guy, and you like him, he is just the coolest guy. until you find out what an absolute piece of slime he is in his home.
Is he seriously comparing something as broad and open to interpretation as spirituality to a basic taste receptor reaction that an overwhelming number of people have experienced and could come to a basic consensus on?
Yep
Then try it. Explain to me what salt tastes like. Taking into account that I have never tasted salt.
Its very much like me trying to describe to you how I know what I know about spiritual matters. Your "spiritual taste receptor reaction" has never experienced it.
what other bases of comparison do you have?
i could say that salt tastes like sweat, for example
or like sea water
Those both have salt. This person has NEVER tasted salt.
VoC please remember most of the first-wave feminists (the ones that were for gender equality and such) haven't called themselves "feminists" in years
What does that have to do with a Mormon leader in the 90s declaring 'the feminisit movement' a threat to the church because it makes women unsatisfied with being beaten by their husbands?
Is he seriously comparing something as broad and open to interpretation as spirituality to a basic taste receptor reaction that an overwhelming number of people have experienced and could come to a basic consensus on?
Yep
Then try it. Explain to me what salt tastes like. Taking into account that I have never tasted salt.
Its very much like me trying to describe to you how I know what I know about spiritual matters. Your "spiritual taste receptor reaction" has never experienced it.
what other bases of comparison do you have?
i could say that salt tastes like sweat, for example
or like sea water
Those both have salt. This person has NEVER tasted salt.
Is he seriously comparing something as broad and open to interpretation as spirituality to a basic taste receptor reaction that an overwhelming number of people have experienced and could come to a basic consensus on?
Yep
Then try it. Explain to me what salt tastes like. Taking into account that I have never tasted salt.
Its very much like me trying to describe to you how I know what I know about spiritual matters. Your "spiritual taste receptor reaction" has never experienced it.
what other bases of comparison do you have?
i could say that salt tastes like sweat, for example
or like sea water
Those both have salt. This person has NEVER tasted salt.
Salt, it, it makes me thirsty.
THIRSTY FOR GOD.
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Is he seriously comparing something as broad and open to interpretation as spirituality to a basic taste receptor reaction that an overwhelming number of people have experienced and could come to a basic consensus on?
Yep
Then try it. Explain to me what salt tastes like. Taking into account that I have never tasted salt.
Its very much like me trying to describe to you how I know what I know about spiritual matters. Your "spiritual taste receptor reaction" has never experienced it.
what other bases of comparison do you have?
i could say that salt tastes like sweat, for example
or like sea water
Those both have salt. This person has NEVER tasted salt.
I would give him some fucking salt, because it is a thing that exists, unlike your magic sky friend, you horrible little man
VoC please remember most of the first-wave feminists (the ones that were for gender equality and such) haven't called themselves "feminists" in years
What does that have to do with a Mormon leader in the 90s declaring 'the feminisit movement' a threat to the church because it makes women unsatisfied with being beaten by their husbands?
Oh jeez I didn't really read your post, its my kneejerk reaction anytime somebody mentions "feminism" on the internet, because 99% of the time its a quote from a far-right feminist blog that is pure craziness
my bad
I was so confused because I had no idea where you were going with that.
Is he seriously comparing something as broad and open to interpretation as spirituality to a basic taste receptor reaction that an overwhelming number of people have experienced and could come to a basic consensus on?
Yep
Then try it. Explain to me what salt tastes like. Taking into account that I have never tasted salt.
Its very much like me trying to describe to you how I know what I know about spiritual matters. Your "spiritual taste receptor reaction" has never experienced it.
A) There is no such thing as a spiritual taste receptor reaction, but there are taste buds that connect to our brains and transmit information that we interpret as our sense of taste
An overwhelming number of humans have experienced salt directly with 1 of their major senses, yet the same can not be said of spirituality (the whole need for faith vs evidence)
C) With enough time and consensus we could come together and explain saltiness to you as compared to the other major taste receptors (bitterness, sweet, etc) if you shared our common bond of taste
D) Who is to say your experience with god, going by your use of analogy, isn't synthenasia. Maybe you're perceiving stimulus completely wrong. Like you're cold and it makes you hear invisible sky men compel you to hate gay people in his name. Who knows. I'm just cold, so I put on a jacket instead of deliberately singling out a group of people and telling them they don't deserve the same legal rights as me.
E) Your logic is that of a child throwing ice cubes at the sun because it is too hot outside
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Then try it. Explain to me what salt tastes like. Taking into account that I have never tasted salt.
Its very much like me trying to describe to you how I know what I know about spiritual matters. Your "spiritual taste receptor reaction" has never experienced it.
and in general the church sides with the man, so she was told to go back over and over, and things were.... bad. for her, and for their kids. really bad.
i think we're all eager to have president dwayne elizondo mountain dew herbert camacho
Correct. You too, Wiggin.
It's an example they teach in the church.
I tasted salt and decided it wasn't my thang.
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what other bases of comparison do you have?
i could say that salt tastes like sweat, for example
or like sea water
Fuck that. My mom was being abused by her second husband and the church got her out of there REAL fast.
i shall rule the seas with my trusted lieutenants morgan and jerry
What you believe etc etc fuck yourself
Jarheads in office hoooey we are all fucked
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it's red
Not all wards are lucky to have that kind of leadership.
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Those both have salt. This person has NEVER tasted salt.
What does that have to do with a Mormon leader in the 90s declaring 'the feminisit movement' a threat to the church because it makes women unsatisfied with being beaten by their husbands?
that's why they cheap out on fluorescent lighting and holy tap water
That is both terrifying and amazing at the same time. So much shit would get done.
I just told them no thanks but have a nice day
I have a lot of work to do
Salt, it, it makes me thirsty.
THIRSTY FOR GOD.
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
I would give him some fucking salt, because it is a thing that exists, unlike your magic sky friend, you horrible little man
I was so confused because I had no idea where you were going with that.
You are not living up the the SE++ standard of scaring them away with a pitched tent.
A) There is no such thing as a spiritual taste receptor reaction, but there are taste buds that connect to our brains and transmit information that we interpret as our sense of taste
C) With enough time and consensus we could come together and explain saltiness to you as compared to the other major taste receptors (bitterness, sweet, etc) if you shared our common bond of taste
D) Who is to say your experience with god, going by your use of analogy, isn't synthenasia. Maybe you're perceiving stimulus completely wrong. Like you're cold and it makes you hear invisible sky men compel you to hate gay people in his name. Who knows. I'm just cold, so I put on a jacket instead of deliberately singling out a group of people and telling them they don't deserve the same legal rights as me.
E) Your logic is that of a child throwing ice cubes at the sun because it is too hot outside
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